Is this REALLY a 428 Cobra Jet 1969 Mercury Cyclone?

#Mercury #Cyclone #428CobraJet #CobraJet #Mach1 #Rcode
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[@timothystorrs4126]

My brother in law got out of the service and went to work for a mercury dealership in western NY and he ordered that exact car for himself as a reward for making it out of Vietnam. I remember some scary rides in that car! Most beautiful car I ever saw IMO! 428 cj 4 speed car. Drag raced it at Niagara a few times. Sold the car when he got married and became a Dad.

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Those memories are incredible and what makes some these car so amazing. You can't buy those family times! Thank you for sharing!

[@bruceherb8402]

I had a '69 Cyclone CJ in the mid/late 80's. White with burgundy interior. Sadly the 428CJ was long gone by the time I got my hands on it. It did have a 429 in its place so it was still a really fun car to drive. Well, it was fun when the power steering system had fluid in it. Trying to turn the thing with a small Grant steering wheel when the power steering wasn't working was the opposite of fun. I remember the trunk being literally HUGE once you got past that little trunk lid. One of a few cars I still kick myself for selling.

[@donhippy3050]

That was my first car in 1970. You bring years to my eyes seeing it. I let my buddy drive it in our senior year and totaled it. Super fast car and I made lots of lunch money with it. Thank for sharing

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Thank you for sharing that! It's never fun losing a great car.

[@kcav5374]

From the very first shot I saw of the engine compartment I could clearly see it was an FE engine. First engine I ever rebuilt was a 390 form a 67 GTA Fairlane. Glad you found that one!

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Thank you

[@413x398]

I have a factory black '69 Cyclone CJ here. Never a dent, never any rust. C6 with 3.50 T-Lok. Also, much rarer, a base '69 Montego hardtop CJ automatic. One of 20 per Marti. Seven other Cylones and Montegos, too. Great cars but parts are a beeyotch to find.

[@peggyseefeldt2638]

He should inspect the rear dif to see if it's correct to the Vin. Still could be a worth while find.

[@RDEnduro]

This video should have a hundred times the views, learning about a vehicle you just bought it always really fun

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Thanks RD. I only posted this days ago but I'm hoping it does reach a lot of folks. Subscribe! They'll be more fun classics coming up in videos within the future. Also, check out the shorts. I have a lot of great clips from cars around the US on the shorts. John

[@shawnbeck2303]

Take the 390 and bore it to a 428 CJ specks. You already have 428 CJ heads. Then slowly start buying parts and paint it the original color. One of 13. Wow! Shawn.

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Thank you!

[@hotrod7938]

It is still possible to be a 428cj black with a 390 crank. I would pull the trans bell housing looking for that C sand scratch on the back.

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Possibly, but the webbing in the block isn't the 428 webbing and it doesn't have the bolsters on the side of the block.

[@daddywoofdawg]

My mom had a 69 428 Cj burnt orange bucket seats the dealer said 1 of 4 the other three went to the track and hers was going to but they decided to only buy three so my mom bought the 4th because she liked the color.

[@scrotiemcboogerballs1981]

I had a 428 out of a old police car it was put into my 74 ford truck it was my first car and I had so much fun with it such a beast ended up blowing up bottom end😢 so I built a 390 and used the heads and cam from the 428 and it ran awesome too

[@LostandFoundClassics]

That's Awesome. I've had a few FE engines in some of my Ford Trucks as well and currently have a nicely built 390 sitting on the engine stand for my next one.

[@johnshell6994]

looks like the mercury sister car to 69 cobra torino r code 428scj a real find

[@LostandFoundClassics]

It is :)

[@johndonlon1611]

Fantastic score !! Now get wrenchin' and thanks for sharing.

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Thank you!

[@theotheronetoknow5828]

I had the Torino. It is long gone now

[@husqv5147]

Beautiful old beast! Love it!

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Thank you!

[@localcrew]

I bought a ‘69 Cyclone 428 CJ “Q” code with a BUNCH of extra spare parts for $200.00 years ago. Driveline was gone - had a Mustang rear end. Very straight body with good glass. Bench seat with column shift C6. Never found the time to do anything with it. Sold it for a grand and the spares for maybe another few hundred bucks. I also used to have a ‘66 Cyclone GT with the 390 and bucket seats and floor shift C6. Loved that car. Just subscribed!

[@ruachadam5227]

...My first daily driver (I was 17) was a black on black '66 Cyclone G.T. 390 4speed. We got the car from a lady (yes this car was bought new by a lady) when it only had 40 some thousand miles on it. We paid $600.00 for it in 1970.

[@localcrew]

@@ruachadam5227 Sounds familiar! I bought mine in ‘75 for $500.00 and it had 47K miles on it. Sold it in ‘79 or thereabouts during the OPEC oil embargo for $400.00. It had the chrome valve covers that said “390 Cyclone GT” on them. I hear that those were rare. Mine was “Cardinal Red” and I ended up painting it black.

[@ruachadam5227]

@@localcrew When it comes to cool classic cars, this younger generation don't know what a good time they missed.

[@LostandFoundClassics]

That's Awesome! And thank you for Subscribing!

[@boblongdickder6178]

If it's the real deal it's worth a hole bunch more than you paid for it. 2 years ago I sold one at Barrett-Jackson for $185,000 just so you know

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Thanks, Bob!

[@puttervids472]

I could have said yes by the shape of the hole in the hood. That odd oblong shape mates up to the ram air cleaner top with the small flapper door.

[@davidhughes4728]

That car is worth a lot of money I know where a 429 Stockholm Cobra is setting in the junkyard right now

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Nice!

[@josephtravers777]

I'm sure the original CJ engine got toasted many years ago but never mind. 390 w/ those heads and a Toploader ain't no slouch!

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Agreed!

[@richardlong8014]

I passed on a similar Cyclone up at Calvin Wests around 1985. I believe it was a 429. I wasn't into anything other than GM at the time. The Cyclone was especially hideous looking to me then. Calvin was the largest Junkyard in Northern Maine close to a B-52 Air force Base. He had tons of vintage vehicles. RIP Calvin.

[@logancarter2134]

Dennis Collins has a period correct 428 for it....

[@jimdraper4776]

Just imagine how many eluding episodes are attached to that old pirate ?

[@mikeblankenship7930]

My brother in law had the same car in the early 70s. Those 428 CJs ran strong.

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Nice, they are indeed a strong runner.

[@ronaldnorris2179]

I had a buddy in high school that had a 69 torino cobra 428 it wasn’t that impressive on power. It was a four speed also.

[@704406bbl]

So many of these cars engines were blown sky high by spun bearings or blocks windowed by way overreving or missing gears. Ka pow. My cousin had a cyclone GT with a scattered 429 and sure enough,slapped in a 390. Cool old cars . If that car was mine,I think a 429/460 back in there and have some fun rowing that top loader!

[@LostandFoundClassics]

It would be great with a Boss 429 in it!

[@cw2a]

I tried to buy one in 1989. For months and months. STILL KICK MYSELF!!

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Sorry to hear that!

[@rickhawks8818]

Great video! Congratulations on the rare find!! I can’t wait to see how it will look in the future..

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Thanks, Rick!

[@davidhughes4728]

Dude that's a badass ride that car is very fast very rare

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Thank you!

[@andrewhigdon8346]

For me, the quickest way to tell if an engine is an FE is to look for the mating surfaces break between the intake and the heads. They’re known as “half-heads” because the head is significantly narrower than most other heads, with the intake manifold taking up where that part of a normal head would be. This effectively makes the intake ports on the heads very short, which in turn means as less iron to remove when porting them during testing. They would generally use an aluminum intake manifold for flow testing on the bench and the track, and aluminum is much easier to grind than iron. It’s an easy swap, and you can remove either the head or the intake without removing the other. Anyway, that break you see where it would usually be all head, but that part of the intake is covered by the valve cover, which makes part of the intake also part of the head. For any of you who have ported heads, imagine how much more effectively you could massage the inside radius of the port when it’s half as deep and that much easier to get to. It just opens up a whole new world of ease of experimentation. Once they had a shape they liked, they’d transfer that to the iron mold for regular production cars. I think that’s one of the coolest things ever.

[@LostandFoundClassics]

It's not so much that it needed to be Identified as an FE but rather the engine needed to be Identified as a 428cj or not.

[@robertknight4378]

Really like the video and the car is really cool can't wait to see what you do with it I better be a blast to drive I love my Fords♥️💯😎👍👍🇺🇲✌👍

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Thank you!

[@jimolson8424]

You have a great find... I hope you can save this cyclone. If not pass it on to someone with respect for the car.

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Thanks, Jim

[@davidhughes4728]

I got a 428 Cobra with the transmission and the 350 traction lock rear end but it's automatic I got all that

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Nice!

[@carlwoodard7276]

I was 16 in 68 and lived in small eastern town. Like most small towns , a few guys folks had money and they had built vettes , buick gs, etc. Mopar wasnt quite as snooty. There was outcast guy from less healed family with a 68 cyclone "dog" that couldnt be touched , even by local 427, hemis/ 440 and 455gs. He never told what it had , but it could jump beer cans or do endless burnouts until popping both tires. We heard he was related to Cale/ Leroy Yarborough , and the motor came from them. Never saw him race on strip, but we usually went to nationals, and this car was right there for its class.. .

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Man, that's an awesome story! Thank you for sharing it. The Nascar version was the Spoiler 2 which was fitted with a Boss 429 engine. Lots of guys did crazy things back then. I wouldn't put it past him there was a 427 side oiler or Boss 429 under that hood.

[@herbie6860]

Being the car it is & parts on engine also age & time of build there could be some unknown explanation for that block & crank etc,I would do my best to trace that cars origin's & reason short block is odd...awesome video either way.👍

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Thank you!

[@chriscatarcio2983]

Faster than today. Old 21.

[@manoelreinaldoreinaldo6120]

Dude , congratulations for to find this Muscle Car . Show us when the restoration finishing ok , Good Luck .

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Thank you!

[@johnkalberer2277]

My dad brought one of these back in the late '70's. It was white, original 428 CJ markings on the quarters, I never took to it, I was collecting CJ Mustangs. Sold in Western Washington 40 years ago. Didn't realize they were that rare. It may have been SCJ, the motor in it was possibly a 390, they didn't change the flywheel, so it had a personality, I switched out the 3rd member, according to the door tag and interesting the tag it was a 350 limited slip but had 430. Just checking. JPK REEEEEEEEE

[@LostandFoundClassics]

That's awesome! Sadly, this ended up being a 390 engine with the CJ missing even though it's an original 428cj car. These weren't very popular back in the day due to their size thus it ends up making them rare today. I've since passed this off to the new owner due to the severe structural damage under the car from a previous accident that caused it to be parked before I purchased it.

[@pennywise8182]

I see that Cyclone was built at Lorain Assembly Plant in Lorain,Ohio......Lorain Assembly was the place to work at back in the "60s-"70s if you loved midsize Ford and Mercury performance cars......Lorain Assembly built cars that weren't supposed to get built or what the so called "experts" would call none of none..But they were built....Lorain Assembly built all of the "69 Mercury Cyclone Spoiler IIs.....In 1969 Lorain Assembly was getting ready to build the Cyclones and Torinos with the "Boss 429" in them but that asshole Bunkie Knudsen vetoed that and put it in the Mustang instead.....But a few "test mule" examples were built at Lorain and supposedly destroyed......Anyways,good save.👍👍👍

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Finding one of those Boss 9 Cyclones would be a trip!

[@fredwilliams7893]

Absolutely have always loved these! Man this is a rare find! Wow! Hopefully you keep it!

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Thanks, Fred!

[@durango8882]

Those were cool cars

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Agreed!

[@timpriddy349]

with that rattlecan black i figured it was grenaded (long ago)

[@thomaspopjoy8790]

hey 390 are 4.50,it might take the 4.130 to make a 406,then try and find a 4.98 crank

[@CoyoteFTW]

Badass Fe

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Thank you!

[@bobbycuesroadhouse2204]

Well done video, and a cool find! Congratulations on the rare car

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Thank You!

[@davidhughes4728]

I got the original 428 Super Cobra Jet engine 30 over from Ford brand new on the motor stand the original

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Nice!

[@bartschwartz9233]

Remember several In junkyards in late 80s and 90s plus plenty of Torino- 2,200 is still a big number just lots we’re scraped

[@macho4x4warlock98]

Did you get any history background on the car? In that area of the 12 hour drive town, that blown 428 short block may be sitting around in that previous owners neighborhood where he got the car.

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Great question! YES! The original owner is currently ill. I picked up the car from his Nephew who is handling his estate. According to his Nephew, there is another house about 2 hours away that has a yard full of Ford parts, engines, and projects. He's not ready to let anyone in there yet but told me he is going to text me pictures in the near future because I was interested in what other engines many be laying around. I hope the 428 is sitting there somewhere. His Uncle was a mechanic. Even if I don't find the 428, there may be other great finds on the property. Thanks for commenting, John

[@davidhughes4728]

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[@daviddarby6986]

Is the rare, somebody threw a Fairlane bumper on the front edition? That needs fixed ASAP. Lol.

[@luisestebanr6311]

It's a great proyect too! Have fun!

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Thanks, Luis

[@MichaelJones-ci6hq]

Score 😎👍

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Indeed!

[@smavtmb2196]

A very cool car to restore

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Thank you!

[@benwright6330]

I once owned a 1968 Plymouth Barracuda fastback that looked just like that... ..nearly. ..actually, ..it looked nothing like it. ...not even close

[@spook5756]

My brother had it with 428 CJ and 4 speed. Dark green.

[@FordTorinoMercuryCyclone]

Hood pins weren't stock on a 69 Cyclone. I passed on it when it was on Facebook because he told me it was a 390. It's rough and worth about 3k all day. I know of 6 Spoiler ll's in better condition and all under 12k, which the cheapest being 6500.

[@LostandFoundClassics]

I made good money on the car and it ended up having the correct big spline toploader as well.

[@nathandean6639]

I am currently restoring one , body parts are really hard to find . But they share a lot of common parts with the fairlane and Torino . There were 2175 total cyclone cj’s Built in 69 so they are a rare to see at car shows or at all .

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Hi Nathan, Indeed! They are very rare. So Rare, even as a 60s Mustang guy I didn't even know they existed before buying this one. According to Marti, only 693 Cyclone CJs Came with a 4 speed manual trans and out of those, mot where bucket seat console cars. This car is a stripped down model without power steering or any creature comforts. It was purchased for racing and is only 1 of 13. When I took the back seat out this week, I found the rear seatbelts still have the plastic wrapping on them and the rear seat is like no one has ever sat on it. The Maroon color makes it even more interesting since most where white or black. Sadly, someone spray painted this car. But the original paint is still in the door jambs. It's my understanding that the 1968 and 1969 Fairlane and Torino undercarriage, suspension, and overall unibody is the same. In addition, the outer body panels are shared with the Montego. This one is a little more than I can chew at this point in time so I cleaned it up and it's currently for sale. I will most likely have it on eBay here in a week or so if someone local doesn't buy it. Since creating the video, I verified the transmission is the original as well as the 7 blade 428 Cobra Jet fan and accessories in addition to the Exhaust Manifolds and Cylinder heads. Blessings, John

[@LostandFoundClassics]

@@andyfrance1514 Not really

[@daviddarby6986]

A 427 has 6 bolt cross bolted mains.

[@Motor-City-Mike]

Side oilers did, but not the top oilers - hydraulic lifter engines.

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Not all 427s had side bolts going to the main caps. Ford made several versions of the 427.

[@charleshenshaw9099]

The only thing that would make it better is a 428CJ.

[@davidhughes4728]

I will trade you a 66 Ford Fairlane GT for that car

[@scottowens1535]

Those cyclones in fastback Torino sure look a lot alike if it wasn't for the very front and the very back you'd swear it's a 69 Torino I had one for 28 CJ ram air full deal.

[@429supercj]

The fenders, quarter panels, and lots of other things are different between the two models

[@scottowens1535]

@@429supercj yeah the more I look at it it was just mostly that window in the shape but you're right :-)

[@jamesdamron2065]

It's a spoiler 2,,has dropped rocker panels,,cool car

[@LostandFoundClassics]

It's my understanding the Spoiler II has the Nascar style nose on it. This car has the street front end.

[@413x398]

@@LostandFoundClassics Yeah, that's not a Spoiler II.Those all had M-code Windsor automatics in them.

[@righty-o3585]

Hit its only 1 of 13 that came with those specifications. If you remove one of those specifications and replace it with something different then it's no longer 1 of 13

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Yeah, that's how that works.

[@debbieyork6130]

Had a69 428cj lite green auto ran good back in the day.

[@LostandFoundClassics]

That's awesome Debbie!

[@jessicawells5145]

Call Dennis Collins in Dallas Texas,he will sell you a 428cj. Complete an running

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Thanks for the information. I have a local guy about an hour away from me who has about 5 of them for sale.

[@user-br9zy4mx7t]

I hope you have the money time and fortitude to refinish that cool car

[@LostandFoundClassics]

It is currently in the hands of a new owner who plans a full ground up restoration.

[@MissionaryForMexico]

I have never seen a man keep questioning his comments, so many times! A lot of talking, but not really saying anything !

[@LostandFoundClassics]

I also like Pumpkin Pie and Zip Lines

[@robertroth618]

Someone know had one and sold it to someone up in Canada. I don’t remember if it was a four speed or automatic though.

[@clinttanner4645]

I gotta ask what did you give for it?

[@1957kwick]

I think you should turn it into a tribute NASCAR.🇺🇲

[@LostandFoundClassics]

That would be fun!

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Hi Everyone, This car now FOR SALE if you or anyone you know is interested. I will discuss price and details via email: [e-mail]

[@richg3411]

Spoiler alert: It's not.

[@jamesdamron2065]

I had the exact same car in 92,, color 4speed lol

[@LostandFoundClassics]

That's awesome

[@mkowboy13]

Holy smokes now that’s some luck lol the 289 auto or 3 on the tree wouldn’t be as good lol you only went a 12 hour drive I would go to the ends of the continent for an original factory cj

[@LostandFoundClassics]

I agree @mkowboy13, It was worth the drive!

[@dickritchie2596]

Nice car. Why are you shouting?

[@LostandFoundClassics]

I'm Excited

[@dmsdms2707]

I got one

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Nice!

[@benwright6330]

...wish you'd say what you paid for it though.

[@LORISSABOOBMAN]

Date correct motor will be pricey.

[@LostandFoundClassics]

It's actually not that hard. The 428 CJ was only a 68-70 engine. The majority of them are correctly date coded for 1969. The bigger issue is the VIN stamp on the back of the block. Only the original engine will have it. However, the previous owner said his uncle originally owned the car and has a bunch of old Ford engines laying around. It may be in the yard somewhere and I plan on going back in the future. But, it's a long drive to be wrong.

[@crazyprepper5400]

You already know the answer

[@LostandFoundClassics]

True, but that wouldn't have made a good video

[@tomsmith2331]

You got lucky how much did you pay?

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Not much

[@donaldconnolly220]

find. a. 428,r. shortblock

[@nashidaperv2351]

Those daytonas are superior aerodynamically. So those torinos/cyclones must have been running more power to hit 225.

[@LostandFoundClassics]

Good observation. The Torinos and Cyclones setup for NASCAR racing had the BOSS 429 engine which was Ford's Hemi. After Ford continually beat Dodge with the BOSS 429 drivetrain, NASCAR outlawed the HEMI in NASCAR. Looking at the Cyclone in this video, it is the street version. The NASCAR version came with a cone shape nose on it like the daytona. Just like how Dodge put the cone noses on the Charger to make the Daytona.

[@joefell7845]

Actually the winged Mopar were not more aerodynamic.

[@nashidaperv2351]

@@joefell7845 As quoted by donnie allison "The back end would lift up in the corners" or hed call it a brick at high speeds. thats why richard liked the superbird, it would stay stable at higher speeds. What killed the winged cars were the cooling issues among other things but chrysler went the aero route because they couldnt compete with fords power. it makes sense when you consider that ford was and still is a powerhouse in racing.

[@davidhughes4728]

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