Is This the Best GPU To Buy? NVIDIA RTX 4070 Super

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[@RobloxianX]

The 4070 SUPER and 7600X are a great combo for gaming. Video editing id go with a 12700K

[@NGreedia]

In mid 2024, it should be $500 at this point and the 4070 ti s at $600. 4080s should have been at $800 as everything is priced a tier above where they should be for the sake of “features”

[@BlackJesus8463]

yup! It's practically pandemic pricing 3 years later.

[@AnonymousUser-ww6ns]

Yeah 12GB VRAM in 2024 isn’t going to cut it. At best 12GB VRAM will last a couple years. At this price point there should be 16GB VRAM.

[@BlackJesus8463]

Nope! Ain't payin no $600 for an 12GB gpu I dont care if its gddr7! Thats some covid bs its 2024.

[@Oliver-sn4be]

4070super is gddr 6 plus or so 😂

[@Oliver-sn4be]

But I agree 12 is low end now

[@syncmonism]

Yeah, if you consider we are likely about 6-7 months away from next-gen mid-range AMD cards being released, and with next-gen mid-ranged Nvidia cards likely coming out a little sooner than that as well. 12GB isn't horrible with this level of GPU compute performance, but having 16GB would definitely be better, and that is an advantage with the 7800 XT, which is also a somewhat cheaper card with about the same level of standard rasterized performance. It's not super easy to do an objective comparison, so anybody who already has a bias toward one brand or the other will find it easier to justify a preference for their brand by focusing on the advantages of the brand they have a preference for, and downplaying the significance of the advantages of the other brand. But, if you need a graphics card right now, I would say that you're not really going wrong with the 4070 Super, the 4070, or the 7800 XT, or even the 7700 XT if local pricing has it at about 400 USD. If you just want a cost effective stop-gap measure and are willing to upgrade again in a year or two, I'd recommend anything but the 4070 Super, as you're going to lose more in the difference between what you pay now and what you can get for it in a year or two on the used market, and I would lean toward the 7800 XT or the 7700 XT (and I'd say that a 6800 is better than the 7700 XT if you can find one for about the same price).

[@ritakapoor6505]

Not even paying 1500 for a 5080 super

[@K.R.98]

You could consider a RX6950XT, RX6800, RX6900Xt.. Last gen AMD high end. you could snag one of them used for 300 to 450€ if you find a good deal. The RX6900XT is comparable to the 4070super or the or the RX7900gre. The RX6950XT would be closer to a 4070TI. It could save you 200 bucks or more for basically the same performance.

[@1cookgs]

Yes, I agree that the 4070 Super is most bang for the buck. I own a regular 4070 and have been well pleased with it. I bought it when the 4070 first hit the market for about $800.

[@BlackJesus8463]

Sometimes you gotta take what you can get but hope nobody buys unless they have to.

[@syncmonism]

It's competitive bang-per-buck, but the non-super is arguably better if you can find an equal quality model for 50 USD less, and the 7800 XT is also excellent, with different pros and cons for likely around 70 USD less than a 4070 Super. Some would argue that the quality of the actual model matters more than anything else. I also think it's good to try to avoid brands which are known to have very bad warranty policies. Asus has been caught doing some very illegal things with their warranty services recently, for example.

[@Chiefgeargrinder]

Still roughing it with the fastest GPU that I have the RTX 3090

[@BlackJesus8463]

not bad. I have a 6700XT and I feel no need to upgrade any time soon but I'll trade GPUs if you want.

[@K.R.98]

I bought an RX6900XT for cheap. Not bad considering that it basically has RX7900gre level of performance with more stability in the extreme lows. Definitely 4k capable. 🎉

[@lanelesic]

12GB of vram is a joke on a $600 card. The 7600xt is a $300 gpu with 16GB of vram.

[@AsianPersuation24x7]

that card is 40% of the performance...

[@syncmonism]

It's weak, but not horrible. It does kind-of force people to use DLSS in more demanding games at 1440p though, as that is a great way to reduce the amount of vram needed. The 7600 XT probably doesn't really need more than 12GB, but that would have required a different design for the GPU for that to have been feasible. Just one 12GB version of that GPU would have been better than having an 8GB and a 16GB version, but the 8GB version was designed more with laptops in mind, where the space and power savings would be more useful, and where the GPU itself is actually running at a lower clock-speed and probably should be running at lower resolutions anyway, and thus not needing as much vram when in a laptop.

[@lanelesic]

@@AsianPersuation24x7 Yeah imagine how much nvidia fucks over its victims when selling them $600 gpu with only 12GB of vram.

[@lanelesic]

@@syncmonism The most impactful graphical setting in modern games are textures and textures do not impact performance when you have a big enough vram. With 8Gb and sometimes 12GB vram you cannot use ultra textures without the performance penatly. Its unacceptable in single player graphically aesthetic modern AAA games. What nvidia is doing with vram is like what Intel did with quad cores.

[@ANGRYWOLVERINE2060-ft2nc]

If you are just paying 600 dollars just for a card I would say yes. If you are buying a pc prebuilt that cost 1500 dollars total with a 7700 amd cpu and a quality motherboard and power supply it's not so bad. Which is what I did. Ray Tracing on games that have it and more will is a consideration.

[@perrieiles493]

Yay first. Great video

[@gamingcomputers7485]

To be more correct 3-3.5 times the price because depends on the country and the model.

[@bogdanmarian3786]

Regarding the complains about the 12GB of the 4070 super, I have a 4090, and Jedi Survivor uses more than 16GB of it's vram memory (which is insane). IMO the main issue comes from the developers that release shitty unoptimized games that require a bazillion resources to run, not the GPU's

[@DonovanMcNabb5]

3080 is $350 at microcenter in abundance, or the $425 6900xt. The only cards this generation worth looking at are the 4080, 7900xtx and 7900xt

[@williehrmann]

I'd say 4070 ti super, 4080 super and 4090. AMD has nothing usefull to offer in the highend because they lack raytracing power. So the only usefull AMD cards would be the lowend for people who play old games without raytracing, namely 7600/xt and 7700xt. 7900 is wasted money, why would you pay almost 1k for no raytracing power at all (literally half the frames of a 4070 ti super in Alan Wake 2 at same settings and there still is 4080 and 4090 above it) and the inferior upscaling tech which FSR still ist, also missing up to date encoders for good streaming. Nobody in the high end should ever go for AMD at this moment in time. They first need to step up their game.

[@holland1]

@@williehrmann aint no way you said they have nothing useful at high end hahaha and 7900 xtx is pretty close to 4090 21.9 percent difference. They also give you 24gb of vram the 4080 super is a good card but should be priced below 7900xtx to really make it a better card. Ray tracing is definitely lacking on amd by about 25 - 30 percent less in most games compared to 4080 the only card that can run ray tracing Ultra smoothly is the 4090 and its not native its with dlss hitting above 60 fps. Fsr is getting improvements but obviously way behind nividia which I think is a big selling point for the 4080 super. For a majority of things you stated you are right but I think people generally buy a GPU to game on and you get way better performance with an overclocked 7900xtx vs an overclocked 4080 at 4k.

[@samiraamirpour6635]

Jeeez without rayreconstruction AMD will be bad. RR is the best tech in GPU market and it makes 4k dlss performance extremely good looking

[@DonovanMcNabb5]

@@samiraamirpour6635 Amd has decent raytracing, rt is a 1080p thing and amd is more than capable, the only issue is upscaling to higher resolutions will look a bit worse.

[@mooncake8254]

Still waiting for the rtx 5070 gpu, 16 gb vram. Not wasting time for it. My msi rtx 3070 laptop 8gb vram it's holding kinda strong in hell divers.

[@mooncake8254]

Got better hobbies to do than just gaming all day long.

[@DonovanMcNabb5]

I would disagree by a lot.

[@GamingPenguinEnthusiast]

AMD 💩 no RT, no DLSS, no drivers, but 50 quid cheaper 😂

[@BlackJesus8463]

AMD needs an SDR to HDR feature. 🤪🤪

[@stangamer1151]

Also no DLAA and no DLDSR. Nvidia cards are better products overall, when it comes to feature set, that why they charge a premium over AMD competitive products. The only exception is 4060 Ti. 7700 XT (now when it costs $400) is so much faster than 4060 Ti in raster and matches it in RT, that the latter does not make any sense at all (both 8GB and 16GB variants).

[@Iloveturtles]

Because of Biden I can no longer upgrade to new GPU’s that come out. Each time I would buy the best of the best 3090 and 4090 and so on…but because of his economic policies my GPU buying is on hold; I’m going to hold onto my 4090

[@packersfan036]

4060 hommie!

[@GnostikoZ]

Asus Rog Strix 4070 Super or Gigabyte 4070 Super Aorus Master?

[@MuhammadRidwan-pe7ny]

ofc whichever is the cheapest

[@reviewforthetube6485]

The 4070 super this generation. Is the no1 price/performance card when you weight out all of the tech involved and the up to 109% uplift in performance with dlss and frame generation. I'm sry but it's just facts you are getting more money. Also what a dumb excuse they used about the 4090 in china. It was really about the tech and them not wanting the tech in there hands as it was so called to advanced. Now ita abiut the vram and other things haha. I'm like we'll yeah the first reason doesn't make sense because they still have the same tech so it doesn't make sense. This ban in general is just an excuse and it was really meant for the business model not the 4090 but since the 4090 is an ad102 it got lumped in. Super messed up they just didn't want them in businesses and other people to get there hands on them. Luckily China is crafty coming out with the 4090d over there and sneakily making it so buyers could get it home and unlock the full watts haha. I think that was pretty cool of them. But man we better not start seeing weird stuff for the US happening with and or for consumers. I do find it funny hpw everything else is still made there and sold there. So this whole ban just doesn't make any sense at all. They had no clue what they were talking about and just went nope we don't want it there thats it. So ridiculous. I hope it changes in the future because china even if some don't know makes the best gpus they always have. As we see with there own models. They have made them for us so long they got it dialed in the ones coming from tawain are actually having more issues on average. Just like motherboards from Taiwan it ain't like the days when china made bad stuff. When it comes to this tech there manufacturing process and procedures now are hard to beat. Hard to catch up with somewhere that had everything dialed in so well and everything set up just right to help the process. Luckily alot of the 4080 supers are from there still and as we see the 4080 super may be the least problematic gpu this year. I've also found it funny. Every gpu I've used this year from Taiwan has had coil whine while the ones from china haven't. Even asus cards from china don't. I had a dual from Taiwan coil whine. Strix from china none.

[@BlackJesus8463]

Strix better nopt have coil whine I mean what are you paying $400 over msrp for? lol USA is doing everything theyre afraid China might do. 🤣✌

[@reviewforthetube6485]

@BlackJesus8463 true and mo all cards at 4070 level or up can have coul whine. It's a 50% chance with any brand. When pushing that type of power and that much frames it's just normal. People are just to sensitive. I already with motors like direct drive motors and stuff they all whine due to the power and the coils. Idk why people don't expect it to happen in a gpu. I got lucky and didn't coil whine but many do.

[@syncmonism]

The 7800 XT is at least as good of a value (and is around 70 USD cheaper right now), it just has different strengths and weaknesses. You're getting more vram and about the same standard rasterized performance for less money. DLSS is better than FSR, but it's not THAT much better, and FSR is continually being improved. Better ray tracing performance doesn't matter that much when you consider how much it hurts your framerate to turn the ray tracing settings up high, or even to a medium level in many cases, especially because ray tracing requires more vram. The 7800 XT can also match the 4070 Super with UE5 software ray-tracing, which actually strikes a good balance between visual quality and performance cost, and is competitive against hardware ray-tracing in this regard. And, lets be real here, the actual subjective improvement in the graphics from ray tracing is typically not worth the performance cost unless you already have a lot of performance to spare. Running without any ray tracing at all is also just a totally reasonable option, as it means that you can afford to set all other settings to a higher level of quality and likely still have a higher frame-rate. As games become more demanding, running without ray tracing at all will become the more efficient option for all of these cards, to get the best balance between image quality and frame-rate.