Is This the Most Aggressive 25NL Player EVER???

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This guy could easily be the most creative and aggressive player ever to grace these stakes, but that doesn't gaurantee an automatic victory on Poker Gauntlet. Is contestant Jay going to top Jan's current high score in this 25NL season of the brutally honest hand review show hosted by Pete Clarke?

[@sassmate5042]

"Pokers not a computer game" I'm pretty sure it's a game I play on my computer Pete

[@libu6189]

Suggest lowering the maximum score for standard/straightforward hands. For example a simple hand played well could score 5/6 rather than 6/10. When calculating the final score, this will weight the complex hands more heavily while not penalizing the player for playing a simple/straightforward hand (an element that they have no control over).

[@thedealermusic]

Great point

[@rupertbob1463]

Yes this is a good idea! And / or some kind of transparency on how the scoring is reached. The KQo hand getting a 7, the ATo hand getting an 8 and the KK hand getting a 3 seem like just random numbers. If cold/calling pf with ATo is a mistake, making an inventive raise on the turn (that is never folding out a better A for that sizing and not charging flush draws enough either) does not warrant a score of 8 overall. Hand 1 the KQo hand, the aggression gets through but seems like pf maybe too big, flop bet should be a check, turn min bet is an exploit but a bit dodgy, river bluff holding the Ks does not seem good either, weird score of 7 for me

[@ekw555]

is Jay "willing to think outside the box" ? or is he unaware of the box's existence?

[@flexurmind]

Exactly!!! I think this player accidently is scoring because pool is terrible. Make him playing NL50+ and he will get a really hard time with that non stoping agression

[@Charlie_Ses]

No idea where he learnt poker, but it feels like he never learnt to play properly, rather than he did and is making adjustments. Some moves were wild.

[@johngriller4997]

Pete must’ve been on shrooms for this episode bc some of these rankings were extremely generous 😝 And 250K hands is nothing. This player is either sunrunning or playing against literal beginners bc he himself is atrocious 😅

[@benjaminlopez9662]

I think your boy was value betting with the A10. He sensed weakness from villain wanting to see a cheap river and raised to get called by pocket pairs, worse Axs and flush draws. He uses block bets when weak and reads the same from our opponents. Maybe bluffing opponent off AJ+ is his backup plan for continued weakness. If villain blocks, he would shove. If villain checks river maybe he bets small or checks back

[@rupertbob1463]

Although the commentary is interesting, the scoring is so arbitrary that it is almost meaningless

[@SultanOfSwings]

Pete the carrotman coming to the rescue with double back2back uploads lfg!!!

[@Kal-Reegar]

7:30 I think jamming gets a massive amount of folds and villain doesn’t have 2p+ here almost ever. I also think it’s a good combo to jam as the villain is most likely calling with AQ which we block or weird 2p combos which we block.

[@jonathanhenderson9422]

1st hand I'm pretty much in complete agreement. Flop bet feels like a polarization error where hero is near the middle of his range. Turn block/River Shove is probably good at these low stakes on those boards where villain is now drowning in weak Ax one pair hands that should have a bad feeling on that board where hero can have so many sets, two pairs, and straights.

[@ignaciojeroncic8096]

excellent video as always. Regarding the first hand in the video, I think that turn and river make a lot of sense and as Pete says, double pair + are going to be raising turns with a very high frequency and almost no player in the stake is going to have enough decent hands to call the river, what I don't understand at all and it loses all meaning is the sizing of the flop, because by making half a pot we are eliminating many of those hands that we are aiming to throw on the river, and we only get hands with too much equity to pay us

[@jayjaybwoyxx]

we block ak aq villains main bluff catchers, i have both of them massively in range, so i can bet big theory wise its simple really. Villian is forced to call extremely wide here even vs half pot but main part of villians range i'm attacking is A10- single pair hands. I was setting up this bluff on the flop before the turn and river cards were even dealt, obviosuly this is very player dependant and exploitative, and the run out was perfect for this line IMO.

[@CodySchmitt]

What a god damn hero of a red line though, props man

[@huggins_will]

Really enjoying the Gauntlet series.

[@ecalor]

22:00 Also hate the sizing becouse its just so nutted, dont know how far you have to go up in stakes to find people that experiment bluffing that bet size

[@oliverbarton7353]

I love mental Jay

[@Nato_coffee1]

You’re jay aren’t you

[@oliverbarton7353]

@@Nato_coffee1 I WISH

[@NoWayFolding]

The first hand is just bad. Very bad. Double flush draw boards where you have both flush draws and you decide to bluff with second pair top kicker just shows how little theory he understands.

[@NoWayFolding]

Lol and the fact my guy gives it a 7/10... No way. This is closer to a 2 or 3/10

[@jayjaybwoyxx]

Some of these comments really make me laugh. I'm not playing theory at 25nl. if i was playing against a good reg if there is such a thing at 25nl, Actually saying that there is was 1 guy not seen him in a few weeks, I would have played more theory based against them. Pool have way too much Ax and is massively capped in this spot hence the jam. You must understand thoery "to an extent" to make a lot of these types of plays.... your logic is backwards. oh as a side note, not stating this as "FACT" but if you look down in the comments somebody said that there was the same EV in check to jamming in their database, I can believe that, but people say a lot on here so who knows? Oh and if anybody cares q10 was 100% miss click lol. Aj was awful bet call on the river. I'm sure people have worse if they have enough volume.

[@victornevzorov2767]

First hand that line large on the flop, tiny on draw heavy turn and push on a blank river is a nl2 bluff, fish play or some high level play how to extract value by pretending to be a fish

[@tomaszziomek5219]

I feel charlie carrell here :D

[@slowfuse]

i think it literally could be Charlie trolling

[@jrm8206]

You really think that scammer will play 300hrs of 25nl? LOL

[@mdpl4622]

Fun episode but Jay might get killed at NL50 and above

[@agnorax]

Full disclaimer I coach a few students and generally send them to watch carrots students to do the complete opposite of all of them. Not a dig at carrot just most of his students are losing weak nits that likely have close to 0 potential as their mental game and ability to execute isn't there. Jay at least has potential but punts all over the place and is clicking buttons in most spots. I play a mostly redline strategy with around 70% of my winnings being redline at 100-200nl online. I see a few regs that come through like jay and they tend to hit a brick wall around 100/200nl when regs become more consistent with calling down and not allowing as much button clicking. I'd say the biggest issue Jay has will be a lack of consistency in his aggression in spots. There are a lot of nodes you actually want to be more passive than most of the pool ie trap so you can move to another node of the gametree where a lot of the pool have significant gaps in their range and is vulnerable to overbets/rejams. So you can actually play a fairly balanced range in these spots despite being a very redline player because the pools range can't do anything vs certain sizings in somespots.

[@rp18125]

hard disagree on this, in my opinion that's the kind of guy that gots potential to actually get good if he works on his basics, i ld rather coach someone like this than an ABC player trying too hard to play standard.

[@agnorax]

@@rp18125 agreed

[@flexurmind]

I don't know if I agree, the most important thing is not whether you are agro or not, but whether you are able to thing which line is better in every spot - you should be able to pull the trigger when your rationale says so, and check and slow down when it is the you think is the best play, so I would say having a strategy that has agression and also pacific side on every line and every spot is the key.. being agrro just because you fancy red line sindrome is not the key to play poker

[@jeffshackleford3152]

Hand 1 the pair of K can be a jam for value. Fish love to call down on boards where all the draws miss, so IME, you can go way thinner for value than normal.

[@redraw0160]

Lol @ this comment

[@DavidBayes]

if you are even considering jam there, you are the fish

[@jeffshackleford3152]

@@DavidBayes must be, but according to my database it is winning, so... Both blue and red, especially since most Vs will raise w/ sets and those type of hands.

[@slowfuse]

If you are not giving some of these hands 10s, what play would you ever give a 10. Your scoring system is shit. what about something like a check mark or a cross. More of a binary score for each street of play? I think Jay played some of these hands pretty badass, I think you can be proud he is a viewer of yours.

[@PaperPlateParody]

His scoring system seems fine to me. The guy made lots of errors.

[@Tsunayoshi93]

So all vids are now without showdown? I guess time to unsub as this looses all entertainment value for me.

[@beauturner3415]

He always traps when he has it and blasts with bluffs and semi bluffs

[@swardmusic]

Is this zoom? makes more sense of being super exploitive. Villains just giving up against pressure to go to that next hand without that much information on hero

[@zen23ish]

17:40 instantly jealous that you are extremely agreeable with these plays... I want this reaction also, when I am a poker god lol.

[@TheLazarussLedd]

Looks like player who likes to run but he cant walk, not even with assistance.

[@NoWayFolding]

Pete. I really don't get your scoring. You give the KQo hand where he triple barrel bluffs a 7/10, but the JTo hand where he checks back the turn a 3/10. The KQo is infinitely worse IMO. The JTo hand you can check with any hand on the turn. Nut flushes check, straights check. While I do think betting the turn is superior, especially at lower stakes, checking is fine to get value from reverse floats. Generally betting is encouraged because Opponents: a) won't xc enough flopped flushes b) won't reverse float airy hands enough and c)xc turn with a weaker range than they should.

[@thawk2007]

Go home Dad, your drunk

[@NoWayFolding]

Not to be rude but this player is a typical 'reg fish'. Incapable or severely disliking taking passive routes when appropriate. The KK and AJo hands are good examples. He can check the AJo hand at many points to give the option to let opponent bluff, and the KK hand he can call turn and let opponent bluff. This is why his red line is doing well and his blue line is doing poorly. He is unwilling to let ppl bluff into him, and turning merge equity hands into bluffs.

[@johngriller4997]

I wouldn’t even call him a reg. Just a total fish that wins bc he’s aggro and players at those stakes are so stupid that you just have to bet ATC against them and it prints. That’s exactly why your cards do not matter at low stakes (postflop). Also, 250K hands is literally meaningless and he could be sunrunning in this sample. If this was 1M then i would give him some credit. This is legit one of the worst players I’ve ever seen that is not a whale. Like he’s not a whale but he’s not a reg either. Fish is right where he’s at, but for his stakes he could be the best player in that pool which is why he can easily keep winning. Aggression just wins and it wins even more when your opponents play ATC pre, that will generate a million auto folds by the river.

[@jayjaybwoyxx]

@@johngriller4997I actually agree, I will get eaten at 100nl+ I will have to reign it in, and study gto, but the whole time I’m printing I will keep playing like a maniac lol

[@ThePatriots010304]

Hands 2 and 3 Jay overplayed his A,Q and he only did so because the 3-bettor was short stacked. Bart Hanson has talked about these same scenarios where people are getting into 4-bet pots with hands like A,Q, A,J, J,J even 10,10 only because their opponent is short stacked.

[@Love1isall]

25nl😂😂😂

[@flexurmind]

Hahaha Peter do you really know this player? Because if you didn't say nothing, and just randomly picked up hands from unknown player I would say this is just aggro maniac player without much sence of his doing...

[@RobShaw5]

I think I am more aggressive than Jay. Happy to send 10 hands your way from 25NL.

[@kezman82a]

Nothing to be proud of 😅

[@RobShaw5]

@@kezman82a it is when you are a winning player 😀

[@kezman82a]

@@RobShaw5 what winrate and what stake? 😁

[@agnorax]

there's also the requirement to be profitable.

[@chrisdangelo6047]

this player has a 250k hand graph with a crushing red line your 10 hands is not really any proof

[@DavidBayes]

you're literally wrong about every hand. It's embarrassing

[@leslieandclash7030]

No explanation like a boss 😎 talk about embarrassing lol

[@jeffshackleford3152]

Let's start with hand 3? What is wrong with hand 3

[@jayjaybwoyxx]

@@leslieandclash7030​​⁠it’s obviously a troll, They made this account 2 days ago. I have a hunch who it is, and they’ve never played poker in their life lol

[@PaperPlateParody]

His analysis of these hands are on point. The guy was making quite a few errors in his play. You can tell that he is a bit uncomfortable with bluff catching and so he tries to turn the aggression back on the opponent or continues betting with hands that should be checks. This actually has some merit, especially against overly passive opponents that telegraph their hand strength, but it can overly weaken the continuing range where you end up in a big pot with a marginal hand. On the flip side when he has a strong hand he gets afraid of his opponent folding and slow plays too much which costs him. Overall, he is playing an unorthodox aggressive style that seems to be working so kudos to him. Being able to win at holdem long term is no easy feat. But yeah, the analysis is still on point.

[@jeffshackleford3152]

@@PaperPlateParody I would think am aggressive player would know to fast play value most of the time. It isn't like you are going to get a super nit to bluff off a stack, so attack with sets when they are over pair heavy, etc. Whatever it is when you have a strong hand against a very strong range, or whatever that video was titled.

[@SavagePoker81]

All this online poker bullcrap are just scammers & cheaters!