Is This The Toro Killer? The ULTIMATE Review of the New Scag SFC-21 Inch Commercial Push Mower

What is the best Commercial 21-inch push mower? We had an opportunity to demo the pre-production prototype of the new Scag SFC-21 at the Equip Exposition 2022 in Louisville, Kentucky. After launching their 30-inch tank-like push/walk-behind mower last year, Scag is following it up with a beast mode 21-inch commercial push mower. This video WILL be controversial! Did Scag flop, or did they hit it out of the park? Time will tell, but we think lawn care operators NEED to pay attention to this mower. If you are looking to add a Commercial Push Mower to your fleet this spring, you just might need to buy the Scag.
Toro has their 21" Commercial Heavy-Duty. Exmark has the Commercial 21 X-Series. Snapper has the downright ancient but reliable 21” Commercial Hi-Vac and Ninja to choose from. How does the Scag SFC-21 compare? Watch to the end to find out.
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[@hellocheckco]

We are fully aware that this isn't a "full" review. A mower can't be judged on specs alone. I'm super excited to see how this thing cuts. We'll do another one of these once we can get one to put on some of our yards. @ScagPowerEquipment

[@michaelmactavish4445]

i have a honda hrx2176 12.3hp 21'' with 9 speed transmission

[@vincekauffman6051]

Scags are awesome machines. Pricey for the average homeowner, but a good investment for a small lawn care business.

[@hellocheckco]

Exactly.

[@GaryT1952]

Bobcat made a similar mower 45 years ago...heavy duty, aluminum deck, B&S flathead and greasable ball bearing wheels. I still use mine weekly (bought new in 1978)

[@PeakHourDj956]

Finally a video of this little beast! Getting one as soon as it’s available! Scag, Dewalt, Glock, and Pioneer DJ is where my hard earned money goes!

[@hellocheckco]

Hahaha! Great brands all around. Fun fact: my first truck's sound system won second in a sound competition by peaking at 141.5 dB... first place got 142 😡

[@ijnfleetadmiral]

Didn't know Scag made such a model! That thing does indeed look like a beast!

[@jasonslaughter2811]

Just brought the cv7 it’s a absolute beast it leaves a awesome cut you barely have to bag it mulch so good

[@kedrickreddsr1995]

I have 2 commercial 21X, bought them 2-3yrs ago… I Love my mowers, 1 has blade brake clutch and the other does not…. I’m a Homeowner that buy Commercial Equipment 💯💯

[@andyroid5028]

*I'm with you 100%. I absolutely hate buying something inferior to something that is often vastly superior & already exists (& obviously can be acquired). It may be just 1/4 to 1/8 the price of the superior (aka: commercial) version, but why not take that 20%-25% and put it directly toward the purchase of the superior version?! And always buy heavily discounted used (or demo-ed) commercial equipment is possible.* _FYI: Take John Deere, for example. The quality/durability of the 'John Deere' homeowner lawn equipment is _*_absolute garbage._*_ John Deere, Inc. should be ashamed to have their brand name slapped on those turds. Go w/a nice used piece of commercial lawn equipment over a new piece of homeowner equipment 100% of the time (if possible)._

[@BigRedServicesLLC]

Cool demo! Haven’t yet seen one in person.

[@SuperMooshrooms]

God I want this beast I hope they come to Australia one day.

[@jasonslaughter2811]

Got mine back in November it’s a nice machine hands down

[@medusa210562]

With such a motor it would have been good at 22 / 23 inches. And side discharge would have doubled it as a utility mower.

[@Templetons]

Looks like Scag is coming to my dealer March 11th and bringing the 21” to sell. I’ll compare it right there next to the toro and buy one or the other!

[@simonhernandez9634]

Will the 21in in going to have the same clutch as the 30in? I have had 12 clutch repairs. The clutch delete kit is great but the springs that give tension to the blades crack or explode loose.

[@raw2085]

Just got mine. It was actually like $1,600 which isn't a bad price. And you're absolutely right it looks absolutely bullet proof. I have big hopes for it.

[@williammirabal6723]

Where exactly did you get it at for that price? Thanks

[@just_a5.7]

Where at

[@oscarbravo4608]

How is it holding up

[@slowpokerodriguez540]

I have had my 7hp SFC-21 for 3 days done 3 yards and it really is a Toro Killer. Did a test strip with all sharp blades and the HRC 21 is the worst mulcher with a finish cut, the commercial Toro with the Kaw motor still gives a nice finish cut BUT still when the grass is very dense like on Tiff 419 still leaves a slight snail trail. The SCAG is perfect edge to edge is a very level cut! Best thing is the larger diameter and wider wheels and the deep deck. Going to try it is some really high grass as it is tough to even get the motor to labor! Only complaints are the safety lever for the BBC bail (going to remove it) and smaller leaves when on a thick and dense turf tend to be pushed by the front of the air dam not going under the deck to mulch.

[@trapman0]

Still like it 1 year later?

[@slowpokerodriguez540]

@@trapman0 Love it! Gives the best cut and is the best mulcher I have ever had. The deck and the power do really help with the finish and pushing the clippings back into the very dense 419 Tiff.

[@georgiafan6618]

Scag makes great gear. This mower has to rock.

[@surge1899]

Looks like an awesome machine. Personally, for my business, I do not like individual wheel adjustment for cut height. I prefer mowers with one lever deck height adjustment. Right now, I'm enjoying the Husqvarna w520 for my walk behind, but it could be bigger. If Husqvarna offered a 30in, I'd be very interested. There are so many good mowers out there.

[@devohnmitchell]

Man if I had the Money and Customer Base I'd Get this Bad Boy

[@zandercraft1168]

Not having a proper side discharge chute is such a joke. So many commercial 21" mowers lack that basic feature.

[@emmanuelgonzalez9602]

Definitely true. This is why I use my timemaster commercially

[@hellocheckco]

I prefer side discharge as well. I bought a RedMax mower (not commercial grade) and it had a rear discharge... not a fan. But what I'm curious about (and eager to test in the field) is how the larger motor with the deeper deck works together. If it doesn't bog down, then I'm good!

[@zandercraft1168]

@@hellocheckco Yeah absolutely. If the increased deck volume and engine size mulches anything you throw at it, who cares? Honestly I’m considering buying one this spring regardless of my complaint

[@hellocheckco]

@@zandercraft1168 Awesome. If you get your hands on it before me, then please shoot me a review!

[@Burritosarebetterthantacos]

Yep. Thats a huge oversight.

[@OSAbsolam]

Great Mower but its not killing Toro. Scag is heavy duty and expensive. A lot of machine for most home owners. Where as Toro is cheaper and lighter. A lot of folks have a .25 acre and a scag is over kill.

[@neoretrophoto9198]

Nice rig - toro is cheapened everything so I bought a Honda mower before they are gone - this looks solid

[@giuliadellapi4800]

Thanks Check very much for the demo and detailed explanation, but price point is extremely high for a 21". In my opinion, could be a Toro killer in that class (huge tank, unbelieveable deck and great control system) but you are paying for it. I bought a Toro Timesaver 30" for $1,400 this season and like so many others, love its looks, power and durability. May be a tough sell...

[@hellocheckco]

Yeah, it's definitely a high ticket! The big difference is that the Toro Timesaver 30" is still a residential-grade mower. If you go to the commercial version (Toro Turfmaster 30"), the price goes up to $2,500! When you think about how most commercial grade 21" mowers are already close to $2k, I truly believe this one (based on specs) is the clear winner. We'll see how it holds up in the field! Thanks for the comment and don't forget to subscribe! 💪

[@landeRUCK]

Crazy that 3 years ago the toro commercial was $999 I bought a new toro 22297 this year and it was $1588 This scag does seem nice but they also make a toro with that same engine. Kohler 223cc

[@hellocheckco]

Interesting... we couldn't find a Toro with a 7hp motor, though many people will buy a 7hp motor and put them on the exmark/toros.

[@rickr2029]

​​​@@hellocheckco Let's not get carried away with the horsepower rating. The toro 21" commercial is/was capable with the Kawasaki or Honda engines. The Honda was about 5.5 hp. I have this Koehler engine cv224 engine and it's okay. Nothing extraordinary. Could use a bigger air filter like the Kawasaki. For Skag to get really serious in the smaller push type mowers they need to figure a way to lighten up their 30" SFC model and get closer to the weight (or lighter) then the Turfmaster of Toro.

[@RootsmanGardens]

I own a few of the scags. I’ve had a lot of problems with the brackets for the front wheels bending and bowing. The component is very weak and mailable. Other than that very important detail, it’s a great machine.

[@elreydelmundo8499]

you lost me at 'just under $2000'

[@hellocheckco]

😅😅😅 Fair... fair.

[@jronmanlawn]

I could buy a 21 inch walk behind mower with a lower price tag but am I getting an all steel deck, a 7 hp engine, and a one gallon fuel tank among other heavy duty features? The price might seem high but for the intended customer, it is a fair price.

[@hellocheckco]

@@jronmanlawn You nailed it right there!

[@jonathonrossebo1783]

It is intended for commercial use. That's why it is so expensive. If you use it every day to make your living you'll be glad you bought a commercial mower. In such cases it is worth paying the extra money for a commercial mower if you use it every day. It will pay for itself in a month.

[@jonathonrossebo1783]

@@jronmanlawn I know. The cheap residential mowers are not made to be used everyday. Commercial mowers are.

[@JasPlun]

To this day I have not found a better mower than my John Deere 14SB with Kawasaki engine and 5 speed transmission the thing was awesome. I hate that they stopped making them.. That Skag looks good the closest I have seen to what I had with that mower.

[@buzztoole4751]

Just can't beat the old Ariens 21 with its 3n1 capability. Loved the large diameter rear wheels and the castor front wheels but have to admit the self propel mechanism on the Ariens was junk, continuously needing repair. They quit making the Ariens so I went to the Honda commercial. I miss the side discharge and ease of maneuverability but the Honda self propel is top notch. The Hondas are outrageously priced as well so I've paid for one but never again. I'll build my own from used parts first.

[@tomthomas9910]

The old school toro commercial 2 stroke 4.5 Suzuki thick aluminum deck steel wheels with grease fittings 1000$ were pretty bulletproof" think 98 lbs,

[@blakesatterlee7477]

I need one asap

[@hellocheckco]

Me toooooo

[@samueladams584]

Is this Scag available ? Scag, Xmark BadBoy 21" trying to figure out the best for the money

[@Dstromb232]

One think bad about the Scag mower is most of the weight is in the back and when you mow on an incline the mower wants to do wheelies. I own the XMark the 4 hp motor has more torque and I have no problems cutting 8 inches of grass. The Scag might have more hp but less torque. The reason for the 4hp is less pollution.

[@brandongardner7398]

I just came across your channel, and I subscribed to it. I live in the New Orleans metro area, and I was wanting to know if you know of a business called Westbank Lawnmowers? I'm just trying to find out where I can check out one of those Scag push mower brother. GOD bless!!!

[@hellocheckco]

That's awesome, Brandon! I'm in New Orleans proper right now. I've never been there and I don't see a website for them. I've gone to Vaughn's out by the airport since they are a Scag dealer. But this mower doesn't come out until next year, so we'll all have to be patient. Let me know if you end up getting ahold of one!

[@brandongardner7398]

@@hellocheckco will do brother. GOD bless!!!

[@hellocheckco]

@@brandongardner7398 💪

[@user-xi2wy5rh2b]

Is it only 1 wheel drive? I Just bought it and don’t know

[@wcovey25]

It looks so much better with the fabricated deck than the stamped deck.

[@AAa-qd8hb]

HELP. (Question for anyone). I love my old Toro AWD (all wheel drive) mower with BTAH (blue traction assist handle) but the new Toro AWD mowers (21472) have baby carriage handle without BTAH. How do I add BTAH. Thank you. Toro's BTAH (Blue Traction Assist Handle) converts Toro's PPM (Personal Pace Mowers) (which requires a person to push Toro's heavy mower forward before the self-propelled drive kicks in) to ((easily without effort) controlling Toro's self-propelled drive with just your fingers and hands without moving forward). This is needed on steep hills where you need the AWD Toro mower to pull you and this powerful AWD mower up the hill without any effort on your part. The powerful Toro AWD mower can do this only with BTAH and not by Toro's PPM (extra exercise mode). Without BTAH you end up pushing this heavy Toro mower up the hill even with AWD. It is a shame that Toro has gone (woke not work) with this useless new Toro curved baby carriage handle. IMO. Thank you for your help and understanding this Toro (back breaking) mower issue.

[@KeepItMowed]

I have never been a fan of overpriced commercial 21" mowers. Actually I operate a 22" Toro with a B&S 190cc that cuts like butter with St Augustine here in Houston. With that said, this mower definitely has my attention. I love the deep deck and more horsepower with the possibility of mulching like crazy. I wonder what the torque rating is. Stamping the deck will likely cheapen the build, but it should make it a little lighter. If it ends up being as good as it looks, I'll probably added to my Timemaster setup and give me a true cut for extreme thick lawns. Good insight, can't wait to see the updates.

[@matthewthebirdnerd]

Torque is 11ft/lbs

[@hellocheckco]

Great comment right here! I'm interested too!

[@KeepItMowed]

@@matthewthebirdnerd Ok that's very good, actually great for a 21" mower. Definitely mulching monster...

[@georgedrake1430]

That is a nice mower

[@josephpuchel6497]

Hey I have my Snapper 21” commercial Kawasaki self propelled, rear bagger, several cutting options with blade change. Can beat it with a stick. I will check out Scags commercial battery version.

[@hellocheckco]

We have a guy on our team that ran Snappers for years. This is in a different league both in price and build. I think Snappers run about $1100 right now with the 4.5hp Honda engine.

[@ScagPowerEquipment]

We appreciate you stopping by our booth at the expo and your feedback on our new SFC-21! Can't wait for you to give it an official demo this Spring - and be sure to reach out to Meghan if you need any assistance setting up with your dealer!

[@hellocheckco]

Will do! We connected on LinkedIn, so we'll be in touch. We're excited to give it a full demo!

[@jongarber8238]

It’s the scag super fuxing cool 21

[@don2deliver]

From what I'm hearing Briggs and Stratton is the Toro killer. My old Toro has a kohler engine, will be putting on new drive wheels this week.😊

[@freddrawhorn8239]

Is it personal pace?

[@victorrippe5845]

I’ll stick with my $900 Honda HRX 217 and I’ve had it for 7 years in my company I only have 4 houses a week that I need to use it where my big mowers don’t fit.

[@hellocheckco]

I would do the exact same thing if I were you!

[@ukcatmatt1]

No way wIth a price tag 3-4 times than a comparable toro it better be 3-4 times better

[@panchotheaddict420]

you shoudlve cranked it bro!

[@FrostyTheSnowman12321]

You about done a full on split trying to pick that mower up. 😂🤣😂 Damn skinny jeans!

[@frankbill9172]

NOOOO!!!!!!!!! NOT THE TORO KILLER !!!!!!!

[@Art-jl6pt]

Toro killer? ..yeah right lol I bought used recycler a year ago $100 - it’s lightweight-runs/ cuts great -cheap parts- lots of repair videos posted -. My savings $1900 lol. No buyers remorse here!

[@WJCTechyman]

The model here is vastly different than the one I saw on the website. This one appears to be a fab deck while the one on the website is stamped. Of course the stamped deck is a slightly thicker gauge than my Honda commercial and appears to be an incredibly beefy machine overall with an actual blade brake clutch like Honda's 38+ year old "Roto-Stop." Honda's the original though when it comes to blade brake clutches, please remember that. Thankfully not the belted systems that Toro is known to use. The one drawback is the transmission is nothing like my Honda where it's shaft driven from the engine and hydrostatic but 3 speed and belt drive is better than Toro's slipping belt style personal pace for durability. If I had no choice for Honda in the future in Canada like in the US (Honda's been quiet for the Canadian market), I would seriously consider SCAG's walk behind 21 and 30" units. In fact, I am incredibly happy SCAG made its 30" unit relatively easy to service compared to Toro/Exmark and I got to see one of my competitors using theirs one day and I asked what he thought of it and he seemed impressed even if it was a bit heavy. He had a Toro running that day too and said no huge problems from either one but the stories I heard about Time Master 30" makes them out to be more "TimeWasters" or "MoneyEaters" due to poor systems in place on them.

[@leadnsteel1428]

Thats a sexy looking beast but 21 is kind of small. It would be nice if they made a 26 inch.

[@mark-ui8lu]

The timemaster from toro already has an idle feature and not a wimpy scag motor at only 7hp lol

[@MatthewSmith-uf6tr]

Time masters are nice but now they’re too much $ at this point

[@hellocheckco]

The timemaster has a less powerful engine than this one. 10ft lbs vs 11ft lbs

[@kwmiked]

Rear discharge SUCKS! I had a john deere since 97, I hate the rear discharge cause it shoots it to wrong side when use to cutting clockwise in first pass. I just bought a Milwaukee battery one and I swore I'd never buy a rear side discharge push mower, And I FREAKING HATE IT!

[@hellocheckco]

My Redmax push had rear discharge and I didn’t like it either BUT, this deck is way deeper and the engine is WAY stronger. I’m interested to demo it!

[@MUUKOW3]

It doesn't matter whether you cut clockwise or counter clockwise with a rear discharge ,it bags the same.

[@montanawhite5699]

It’s $2200 where I live.

[@sunnydelight4991]

Toro recyclers are guaranteed to start tho

[@hellocheckco]

Except for that one time when you need it the most! 😅

[@James-sir]

A motor is electric an engine is combustion. I’m that guy 😀

[@howlingwolf125y]

Tell Fred (Scag) to come out with about a 23", 24", or 25" single blade version.. There tons of 21" inchers out there.. We don't need another 21".. The 30" is too big and has two blades to sharpen, not to mention the extra moving parts (two spindles - instead of one), and a higher cost..

[@estebanavila2217]

A 24' or 25' would have been great and probably half the cost of 30'.

[@howlingwolf125y]

@@estebanavila2217 I totally agree with Esteban.. 24' or 25' would cost less too .. A 24' or 25" single blade with a strong engine would be a big seller for Scag. I hope they read this..

[@JorgeVonVogler]

Ya I agree 24in would be awesome

[@MrECatalan]

Completely agree 👍 👏

[@Jessejames5593]

The 21ich cut always is a better cut than a 25 or a 30. Maybe this is why the 21 is so popular.

[@philliphall5198]

How about the engine, hp and brand

[@hellocheckco]

Kohler Command Pro with 7hp. Pretty crazy for a 21"

[@mitchellcox1912]

I just set the yard on fire and get all the clipping out. Fire ants love it too.

[@hellocheckco]

LOL yeah that's one way to do it 🤣

[@kwmiked]

Biggest complaint I have with push mowers is the deck isn't wide enough to do full pass without running over the last tire mark..if u dont it leaves skips. How do they not see this?? The deck should be wider then the tires!

[@hellocheckco]

I hear that, but it’s not as big of an issue for me! But ideally, yeah

[@emmanuelgonzalez9602]

Upgrade to a 30". No need to overlap because of the wider deck. Once you're used to it you won't go back to a 21

[@kwmiked]

@@emmanuelgonzalez9602 I know, I really don't need the 30in, but its amazing to me a lawnmower company that's known for quality doesn't realize that deck needs to be wider then tire so u can stripe

[@hellocheckco]

@@emmanuelgonzalez9602 I don't disagree, but some people don't like the weight of the 30" push mowers. Plus, in my context, a 30" is too wide for some people's back yards, so that wouldn't work!

[@marcusd6096]

Just under $2000 heck no. A 21" at that. Then you have even more controls to work. Not to mention it's heavy. For what, to say one have a commercial mower ? This must be the "nothing will go wrong " edition of mowers and one will never have to change the oil belts or blades for 10 years/1000hrs . As long as I have to bend my back or squat to change the height of the mower deck, absolutely no 21" mower is worth that much to me. I would love it if someone could explain why a 21" mower cost so much. Then I need all of you guys who quit your day jobs, to go back to work, so I can afford to cut my own grass again 😁

[@joeywilliams6509]

I am just happy with my ex mark 21

[@davidwell686]

Hard to beat the Honda HRC or HRX 217 mowers. Especially the 217.

[@MUUKOW3]

Those are pretty easy to beat in every way.

[@davidwell686]

Honda got out of the mower market which is sad. Great mowers. I think the green mob will take out the gas mower market next.@@MUUKOW3

[@chrislj2890]

On the stamped steel deck on their website the mower has individual levers for each wheel. That is annoying. And they have two engines, a 5 hp and a 7 hp.

[@Tintoycar]

11:07 how many pulls? 🙂

[@hellocheckco]

It was a few, but mainly due to user error 😑😅

[@parsonicservices3576]

Ok But is it a Honda Killer 🤔 is it a belt driven transmission ??

[@benjaminleslie3155]

Honda already killed themselves September of next year they will drop out of the mower market.

[@hellocheckco]

It looked direct to me. Could be wrong

[@parsonicservices3576]

@@benjaminleslie3155 Really i haven't heard anything about that??

[@benjaminleslie3155]

@@parsonicservices3576 sad to say it's true, 44 years of making the highest quality walk behind mowers will soon be no more. 😭

[@parsonicservices3576]

@@benjaminleslie3155 Wow thats some BS hopefully someone adopts that shaft driven transmission that thing was a beast i could tarp up 300 pounds of wet leaves and drag it to the woods with that mower ??

[@SANCHEZFLA863]

When you see the oil filter.. wtf🤯and when he said 2k🤣👉

[@roadglide1142]

When my Honda finally dies I’ll look into it but that might not be for another 20 years?

[@hellocheckco]

hahaha!

[@Robert-ug5hx]

Scag mowers are the best

[@wv8404]

Ill stick with my honda lol.. im sure thats a nice mower but for the price why not get the 30 inch toro go twice as fast. And toro also has the blade kill bit wont shut off also

[@cleancutslawncare]

Very cool. I am switching over to scag 30 from a toro 30, but I’d personally never buy a mower under 30in again.

[@hellocheckco]

That's fair! The only knock on the scag 30" is how heavy it is. Make sure to get the model with the front caster wheels!

[@hellocheckco]

Also, the 30" has the same motor that they are putting on the 21" and supposedly, it bogs down every once in a while on the 30".

[@cleancutslawncare]

@@hellocheckco that’s what everyone had been saying. Definitely getting the casters.

[@hellocheckco]

@@cleancutslawncare There you go!

[@macheneclothing]

I love small mowers with massive power engines. Make an electric version of this mower Scag.

[@hellocheckco]

That would be interesting! But I appreciate Scag building gas first. There’s a lot of hesitation in the industry to go to solely battery.

[@macheneclothing]

@@hellocheckco They can make some for those who like battery products. I will buy the first 5 for my crews.

[@hellocheckco]

@@macheneclothing That's awesome!

[@jonathonrossebo1783]

Gas is still the most practical choice for commercial use. No waiting around for an hour or more for batteries to charge.

[@jefferygrady3181]

All you need to do is use a bungee cord to keep any push mower from shutting off if you need to pick up a stick or something else! Genius!

[@hellocheckco]

These are the kind of solutions that I'm here for! BRILLIANT 😅

[@jasonschultz3140]

Plastic spring clamp

[@davesusek3330]

How do you stop it LOL you are showing your age I am jealous.

[@mattfischer7835]

Not a fan of kohler engines

[@PaulStregevsky]

Technically, it's not a "push" mower; it's a self-propelled walk-behind. The mechanism that keeps the blade spinning when you let go of the bail is called a blade-brake clutch.

[@hellocheckco]

Yep, good clarification!

[@atlantapowerwashingsolutio7420]

Notice he didn't mention a honda hrc216 top dawg was killed because its top dawg 1😂

[@hellocheckco]

Couple things here... it's rumored that Honda is ceasing production on their mower line next year, so it's a moot point. But even if they didn't, that mower you referenced has a 4.6hp motor... still significantly weaker than the new Scag BUT I will say the price point is roughly $1,500 which is cheaper than the Scag and makes it worth considering!

[@travismuse7561]

Nope the ol home depot get it done just fine an I saved 1500$

[@grasscutter88]

Probably heavy as shit. The toros/exmark commercials were aluminum.

[@Technotranceism]

The majority of the 21 and 25 inch commercial push mowers, are a bunch of overweight headaches.

[@mpn7jxc]

When are they gonna get it out? I want it. There are no reliable 21” available that cuts wet, real world spring conditions. Sorry toro, sorry ex mark… you’re not worth the money. I’ll run this Scag given how great the 30” is.

[@nurionz7140]

Beautiful looking machine, but it looks too heavy and too pricy. Will probably just buy two lighter toros.

[@andrew4403]

They're making us all go to battery operated mowers and blowers. So it's now 2024 I would really seriously think about getting battery operated machinery all the way around.😢😢😢

[@Burritosarebetterthantacos]

I just paid $3k for a camera lens, makes this mower seem cheap😂

[@kuva07]

Kohler engine? Count me out.

[@michaelschaefer3124]

For the price of that mower it should come with a robot to push it for you😢

[@got2getit204]

I’ll stick with my Honda hrx!

[@cptyler150]

The width is a little small I still prefer to use my 22 inch toro and the tractor it's gets the grasses done faster

[@tome8373]

Absolutely. I am going to pay quadruple what I would pay for a Honda for something that does the same thing as a Honda at triple the weight. Right on scag.

[@hellocheckco]

This thing is really designed for folks with crews. Those dudes break stuff so fast its not even funny.

[@mpn7jxc]

Depends ; it’s a much more commercialized mower than the Honda. It will operate quicker with greater cut quality with these features. If you have all small lawns with small gates in the Northeast you’re aware there are no available 21” mowers that don’t require massive battles all day long. This is the first machine out there that addresses these issues which is a real market issue for many lawn care providers. This machine fills that niche quite well and the Honda does not.

[@manomoa]

I have 21" Honda 200cc with blade brake and used it commercially with no issues entering anywhere. Use it on mulch full-time and have never once used the bag no matter how high the grass is. Why would you pay that much for the Scagg and worry about stupid idle when you can just get blade brake. The blades are still spinning on that thing. Bigger motor and fuel tank, so what. Anyone that uses the Honda HRX217 will no doubt bypass that and go straight to a 30 inch.

[@hellocheckco]

​@@manomoa This is totally fair. I don't think that the Scag is for everyone, but I'll hold my ground and say that I don't think it can be beat. Since Honda is ceasing production on those mowers soon it will open up space in the market for this type of mower. We will see though!

[@manomoa]

@@hellocheckco I have read that a few times on here about Honda stopping production, it must be just in your country because I certainly haven't heard anything about it in Australia?

[@wdk535]

I'm a homeowner, not a contractor, but it would be worth it to me to get something that will hold up. Included a paid advertisement?!! Said it's a Toro killer, then reviews an exmark. So it's an exmark killer? Get a haircut.

[@Carlos.Rivera]

For my needs, this is a overkill. This is like using napalm against an ants

[@robertsaca3512]

It's a lawn mower, no need for dramatic music.

[@TheRastler]

I have a Toro 19inch with a B/S GTS 1995 been serviced twice, starts first or second pull even after winter, cast alloy deck only thing wrong with it is the grass bag is showing lots of wear, unfortunately no longer available. Also has a recycler ability as standard. Anyone that has a new old stock grass bag, reply here.

[@hellocheckco]

MAN, that sounds like a work horse... My favorite part here was "been serviced twice" hahaha, they don't make em like they used to!

[@benjaminleslie3155]

world's heaviest 21" mower!

[@hellocheckco]

No joke! I’d definitely recommend ramps if you’re only using a truck bed to haul this around. I’m curious to see if the weight comes down in the production version.

[@rossflorence7392]

No it's $1800 and 21"

[@williegeorge905]

No side discharge for a over priced push mower 🤔 most definitely not a Toro Killer

[@snoopysrc]

Put my ex mark metro 26inch up against that machine it will whoop it

[@matthewthebirdnerd]

Maybe. What engine did that come with? I feel like I remember it was the 4.5hp Kawasaki. This thing has a much more powerful motor. Unfortunately ya can't those anymore. You have to choose between 21 or 30in these days

[@hellocheckco]

Maybe! Could be a classic “they don’t build em like they used to” situation, but I don’t know 🤷‍♂️ this thing was pretty solid!

[@jaybaggett9293]

Honda HRX217 200cc is a Toro killer

[@charlesdjones1]

Did you really just explain how a blade brake clutch setup works? 😂 Who's your demographic, grandma's over 65?

[@TheLandscapeGiant]

You def could dead lift 750lbs for sure.

[@hellocheckco]

Hahahaa 😂 YEAH BUDDAYYYYYYY

[@TonysLawnCare215]

Scag Copied 95% of the Vintage John Deere 14sb Mower BEST 21" EVER MADE . Why cant scag not copy and make there own style of a 21" I HATE A COPYCAT