►Shop for merchandise: autogefuehl.shop/ ►Subscribe here: kzbin.info ►Also subscribe to our KZbin shorts channel: www.youtube.com/@thomasautogefuhl?sub_confirmation=1 ►Follow us on Facebook / Instagram / TikTok @autogefuehl ►Sustainability in the automotive industry documentary: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2nKf4uih6yhnaMsi=bCdeJZORRHNcVmV2 This is our in-depth review of the 2025 BMW 2 Series Gran Coupé as BMW M235 Gran Coupé. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and technology. 00:00 M235 Gran Coupé Brooklyn Grey 01:40 Wheels, Length, rear 03:42 Borusan Turkish Blue 04:55 Suspension 06:13 Wheel and recycling 06:58 Indicators 07:12 Engines 08:04 Interior quality 09:30 Seats and comfort 11:27 Cockpit 13:05 Alcantara seats 14:10 Driver POV 14:52 Rear seats 19:24 Trunk / boot 20:20 Exhaust sound 20:30 Price #BMW #BMW2Series
@egybecksАй бұрын
why never mention the transmission ?
@kfh123Ай бұрын
KIA Ceed Facelift gone too far.
@marjacu3809Ай бұрын
What's wrong with you? Are you blind?? How can you say is a Kia Ceed? Can't you see it's a new Stinger?
@dmitryb1Ай бұрын
Ceed is more attractive than this.
@ryomai8063Ай бұрын
I don't understand what BMW's design team is doing... Please fire the entire design department on my behalf.
@knyeng7506Ай бұрын
They did
@ScottPCАй бұрын
The head of design is now at Rolls Royce to ruin them next... At least BMW might be safe....
@_checkitАй бұрын
The design lead sadly not fired but was moved to Rolls from BMW to ruin Rolls now.
@dd-dd2coАй бұрын
@@ScottPC So the clown that moved was the one who approved this design?
@ScottPCАй бұрын
@@dd-dd2co the whole design language yes!
@bscott77Ай бұрын
Wtf are bmw actually doing these days?!? Unrecognisable from the brand now
@bonk695Ай бұрын
This new BMW design just looks cheap compared to the old.
@ceesarsАй бұрын
How beautiful is the old Kia design language in a German.
@coletigrett7184Ай бұрын
I think it’s worse.
@bukanejaАй бұрын
Lol the tiger nose, the straight drl looks nio drl, Yeah it lost the european character of design, if we move the bmw logo, its asian style of design
@KratoseumАй бұрын
@bukaneja yeah, they have been targeting china over europe for a while now.
@jkliao6486Ай бұрын
@@Kratoseum Nah, Chinese don't want this pile of utter garbage. Stop blaming everything on us so that you can just pat yourself on the back and keep being delusional.
@marklavelawa374229 күн бұрын
Different is material on BMW is expensive
@Max-fd4pxАй бұрын
They have managed to do worst than the new 1 Serie 😮
@BinaryBlueBullАй бұрын
I will never forgive them for making the new 1-series FWD. I used to have an M140i and that car was truly special, in large part because of it being a RWD hot hatchback, which is rare. And that's not even getting into how bad they messed up the styling and how much they've unrecognizably changed its side profile. Ugh
@zzhughesdАй бұрын
Christ. Haven’t they. This looks like an upset fish. Look at the flabby flanks
@mihnealazar7039Ай бұрын
I mean it's the exact same front and quite close in terms of the new rear lamps, what's so different?
@zzhughesdАй бұрын
@@BinaryBlueBull New 1 totally forgettable and MEH, also had an Dolphin grey with Oyster leather M140i like Joe Achilles on YT. Sadly was a manual. New BMW's I cannot comprehend, the price. Then the Styling. Oh My
@Max-fd4pxАй бұрын
@@BinaryBlueBullI had a m140i too❤
@phaxiАй бұрын
I am usually not the one to talk bad about new designs, because some get better with time, but this one truly looks bad
@RSe-tronGTАй бұрын
What a disappointment... We are witnessing the downfall of a German brand😢
@JohnGuidetti751Ай бұрын
Calm down it’s just an entry level model. Acting like it’s an 8 series
@payne9771Ай бұрын
what in the actual JESUS is that front ??
@TheAustrianPainter87Ай бұрын
Kia stinger 😁
@dd-dd2coАй бұрын
Precisely, anyone can design better that the clowns they have who claim to be designers.
@vladmihai306Ай бұрын
ford fiesta
@MaximilianvonPinneberg29 күн бұрын
@@TheAustrianPainter87 a what? Don’t think we got it in Europe.
@bikeomatic8005Ай бұрын
😂 what the fluck is that 😂 the comedy from BMW keeps on giving… wow shocking trully shocking design…
@remy4620Ай бұрын
The cars in GTA are better than this
@CAPDORIАй бұрын
omg.. Are German car designers on hiatus these days?
@samibeemer7619Ай бұрын
Germans are trying to attract Asians, and vice versa
@tier1detailingАй бұрын
Baby steps! Those grey M wheels are gorgeous, and seeing zero gloss black plastic in the interior of a BMW was not on my bingo card. The The final step is to fire whoever is designing those front ends
@kishona69Ай бұрын
They're so bad!
@MaximilianvonPinneberg29 күн бұрын
They’re going for maximum sales.
@Darx97Ай бұрын
if you pause here 4:44 and look at the front it looks like a ford focus
@kamalberradaАй бұрын
Wow that is one ugly looking thing. It’s even worse than the previous one. Btw why is it not called 1 series sedan ?
@whatwelearnedАй бұрын
The name is the least of its problems
@kamalberradaАй бұрын
@@whatwelearned sure I guess. But when you hear a fancy name like 2 series gran coupé, you expect a fancy car. Calling it a 1 series sedan would be more appropriate considering the monstrosity of it.
@miguelmelchior986Ай бұрын
The new 1 is growing on me, but i didnt like it at first.. but this is just absurd.
@mihnealazar7039Ай бұрын
@@miguelmelchior986 I mean it's the exact same front and quite close rear, what's so different?
@kamalberradaАй бұрын
@@miguelmelchior986I don’t get the proportions of this thing, the mercedes CLA is proof that it’s possible to make a good looking compact sedan, how come bmw are struggling ? Or maybe they think it’s cool which I highly doubt.
@ScottPCАй бұрын
Thomas, remove your glasses next time… you won’t have to see it.
@j_k_rzАй бұрын
I thought only humans experience kidney failure... Turns out BMW also does 😂😂😂
@sotosanagno8331Ай бұрын
Underrated😂
@nevarranАй бұрын
Wow! The designer's revenge.
@akayjay697Ай бұрын
Made the new 1 series look like a Ford Focus. Now made the new 2 series gran coupe look like a Skoda Octavia. Impressive stuff BMW!
@julianwhitta111427 күн бұрын
Except the Octavia is better looking!
@mannionmaxАй бұрын
How can they make it look worse than the last one? 😂😂 Jesus!!
@Arch_Angel_MichealАй бұрын
BMW and Mercedes competing to see who can do the Pufferfish design
@S_PaoliАй бұрын
as a BMW fanboy, I'm disappointed and puzzled as to why the new 2er resembles a Hyundai. (don't flame me... that was just my first impression) :(
@MaximilianvonPinneberg29 күн бұрын
You are right, sadly the 1er and 2er are targeted towards those who get it on pcp leases who couldn’t otherwise afford a bmw.
@g7skyАй бұрын
ugly AF. I Think someone in BMW design team is a traitor and is trying to bring BMW down
@born1in1a1saunaАй бұрын
Maybe they got tired of earning money and wants to ruin the brand and rebuild it to get a challenge. Not, but seriously everyone would want a BMW as long as it has a decent design and interior. It should be impossible for them to fail
@vladmihai306Ай бұрын
they fired him
@joetacchino4470Ай бұрын
This car makes my G80 M3 look like a timeless classic
@Darx97Ай бұрын
it looks like it suffers from a rare disease
@Vishnureddy99722 күн бұрын
The headlights of this car is absolutely stunning 😮😮
@Huntersky0Ай бұрын
It should have been a liftback. Who needs this car anyway?
@shroomyescАй бұрын
People who still have the mindset that a sedan is more premium or prestigious for whatever reason, those exist especially in the premium segment given those customers are typically older and from a business background.
@Huntersky0Ай бұрын
@@shroomyesc 3 or 5 series is for them. 2 series makes no sense
@u7o16Ай бұрын
Kia stinger
@VikLathiaАй бұрын
Looks like a fish from the front and a mondeo from the side 😂😅 to call it ugly would be an insult to ugly people such a myself 😅
@tjernst6488Ай бұрын
BMW has made great strides in emulating Korean design.
@patryklentas319Ай бұрын
I hate these attached sticking out screens...Who the hell think that looks good?? it ruins the aesthetic in interior
@anemeth9281Ай бұрын
It's cheap to make
@Adam-cl6tpАй бұрын
BMW have severely failed on looks. Aint no one buying this.
@jamesspacer7994Ай бұрын
Not exactly, i'll be getting one 🙂
@Nmh86Ай бұрын
Ford fiesta and a Kia stinger had a child born in Germany otherwise known as the BMW Fiesta Stinger
@henn_rockАй бұрын
BMW please go back to designing pots and pans again like you did in the 1940’s.
@MaximilianvonPinneberg29 күн бұрын
Their models in the 60s (Bracq), 70s and 80s where their greatest era. Although I think the Bangle 5er was their finest saloon, still looks modern 20 years later.
@joshfartedАй бұрын
Look how they’ve massacred my boy
@shroomyescАй бұрын
Massacred your boy? The 2-series gran coupe was hideous before the facelift too! 😂
@brunomadeira8432Ай бұрын
My entry to BMW was to be a used E36 316i, my mother blocked it. Kids don't drive BMWs she said. Years later I got an E90 and then upgraded to an F10. I really love BMW but this year I got a Tesla. Either way there is only one 2 series that is a real BMW and that's not that one.
@thebigcheese6606Ай бұрын
Laughed out loud when i seen the front.
@matteoponzetto6682Ай бұрын
The rear it's way more beautiful than before
@Hrtg.garageАй бұрын
Goodbye 2 series hello kia ceed
@xanderhehe2105Ай бұрын
I wasn't sure about the design at first, but I have to say this new Ford Mondeo looks quite sporty! Wait is that a BMW badge?
@LivingThings91Ай бұрын
It's unbelievable that things have gotten even worse compared to the previous model. The market for these cars is mainly Europe, especially Germany. Nobody wants a car that looks like Japanese models (no hate), but this has no BMW DNA at all. What does the design team do when they know that the last model wasn't popular either? Also, if you take a close look at the rear bumper you will notice two different shades of grey, which is horrible. In germany we say: Sie haben den Vogel abgeschossen.
@Stephensharp1234Ай бұрын
Damn that’s not a handsome car.
@zzhughesdАй бұрын
Awful. Reminds me of a Kia saloon. The Kia loooking better
@CharlesBojanglesАй бұрын
I feel like more designed and effort went into this interior than the new X3. I appreciate that this interior isn't hyper-minimalistic, and not covered with large swaths of cloth. It's also good to see the metal door handles remain.
@sueddo2634Ай бұрын
BMW aggressively competing to be the worst car brand out there 😂
@mihnealazar7039Ай бұрын
Ngl i think the pre-heavy-facelift hoffmeister knik interpretation was nicer, more modern than this.
@ludekstipal6120Ай бұрын
How exactly does cheap black plastic around the windows make the car "sportier"? So far I have never walked towards my E90, looked at the chrome grill, chrome window trim and thought "oh if only there was more black plastic, it would be sooo much sportier..."
@sunrise7236Ай бұрын
I wished that "reviewers" where real when looking at cars but then they would not be invited
@trapella9869Ай бұрын
as a Merecedes fanboy... Mercs neeed to up their interior game asap cuz that bimmer looks good qwq (only interior tho, exterior uhhhhhhhh...no comment =w=)
@Drd4allАй бұрын
Thomas, I will be honest with you. I own and drive a G20 330i M sport and before this I had a F30 320d, so I love BMW . But these cars, especially on the outside look like something Kia or Hyundai would make. That's not a bad thing, but it's not BMW
@OwshuaАй бұрын
Glad the head of BMW design has left the company recently...
@Daniel-tx2vtАй бұрын
He went to rolls royce
@Avalk9724Ай бұрын
Thomas, I think that AC control usability is not as important as all YT automotive journalists say. I have a BMW myself and that AC works so well that I may forget it. It is always set at automatic + 21° and it works incredibly well, all year long
@Ostap1974Ай бұрын
Thanks for early review again. Nice that someone still bothers building small cars that feel premium. Not sure, why manufacturers insist on frameless doors, really dislike those. From engine perspective, 223 would be my personal choice here.
@Lordvader330Ай бұрын
I bought the 2024 on your recommendation for my daughter. She absolutely loves hers car. These 2 series are so fun to drive. She has the M235. Thank you Thomas and Leah. You are the auto review power couple!
@autogefuehlАй бұрын
Cool best greetings 😎
@JoãoSilva-t9fАй бұрын
Excellent car. But it's not long before you get the one I asked for :) the new M4 coupé competition. Not CS, that's too good for me, the best is competition. I am patiently waiting for your kindness to present it here on your excellent channel. Thanks.
@autogefuehlАй бұрын
Data & facts: BMW 2 Series Gran Coupé Sold globally, produced in Leipzig, Germany, plant powered by a share of wind power Colors shown: Brooklyn Grey Borusan Turkish Blue Optional illuminated front grill, optional Matrix LED New suspension rework Length 4,55 m 179“ almost same 17-19“ wheels All tail pipes invisible except for M235 M235 with horizontal grill bars, 19“ wheels, sports suspension with frequency adaptive dampers and differential lock on the front Animal free interior standard Base seat fabric Optional sport seats in Econeer fabric or perforated Veganza leatherette, M Sport or M235 in Veganza/Alcantara mix or M Sport seats with integrated head restraints in Veganza/Alcantara or Veganza leatherette M Sport steering wheel only animal leather part 430 l trunk 216 1,5 l 3 cyl 120 hp FWD 220 1,5 l 3 cyl 170 hp MHEV 7,9 s FWD 223 2,0 l 4 cyl 218 hp MHEV (EU) AWD 228 2,0 l 4 cyl (US) 245 hp FWD/AWD M235 2,0 l 4 cyl 300 hp or 317 hp in NA 4,9 s AWD 4,7 s US figure 218d 2,0 l 4 cyl 150 hp 9,3 s FWD 220d 2,0 l 4 cyl 163 hp MHEV 8,0 s FWD Price EU 36.500 Euro entry 60.000 M235 + 6.500 Extras US 39.000 USD - 49.000 USD Transparency note: Autogefühl videos are independent and free from editorial influence on opinion and rating. But since manufacturers enable us to do the reviews in the first place, for legal reasons this video is marked as _advertisement_.
@jasonchen4861Ай бұрын
Looks like I am already too late to come in mentioning about KIA
@NotCommanderShepardАй бұрын
About the Borusan Turkish Blue: It's just named after the company called "Borusan". Their racing team "Borusan Otomotiv Motorsport" worked with BMW to create that color and have been using it in the GT4 category since 2008. Borusan Automotive has also been BMW's main distributor in Turkey for almost 40 years now. I almost worked as a salesman at their main gallery in Istanbul.
@freeskier175Ай бұрын
Heard they got rid of the chief designer...and he went to rolls royce. Maybe they are waking up.
@richjohn9356Ай бұрын
I KNOW THEY JUST FIRED THEIR HEAD OF DESIGN BUT HOW DID BMW BOSSES ALLOW HIM TO COMPLETELY DESTROY THEIR RANGE ,RIDICUOUS
@lfm18808Ай бұрын
This is begging for a Touring version. They could even keep the rear bumper given how low the trunk goes. It would be prettier and much more useful (it would compete with the active tourer, I know)
@Clansman1969Ай бұрын
Keep up the great work Tomasz and your honest opinions are a great help and I am waiting on a delivery of a Cupra Formentor VZ3 333Hp because of your review.
@stefanwiechmann4808Ай бұрын
The 1 series lost design wise with the new generation. However the 2 series grand coupe won with the new design. Especially the rear end! That is absolutly an improvement. But two questions are left: 1) Can you get also chrome accents on the outside. For example for the kidnes and the side frames? 2) Can you also get a wood trim instead of the aluminium? Or maybe carbon fiber..
@dusandestanovic588428 күн бұрын
It reminds me of the old BMW 3 Series from 40 years ago, like their proper successor.
@PeepoChuloАй бұрын
BMW Series Kia ceed CLA
@kdbsuff9625Ай бұрын
I had to laugh, when you slammed shut the doors and it sounded worse than the Renault 5 you tested a week or so ago. Your comments this time? Quite good, not the best (excuse being frameless windows). Then the size of the rear seat: I can squeeze into it, it works somehow..... Finally pricing: 40k to 50k Euro. No complaints at all. I think there is some double standards at play, subconsciously perhaps. We all now have to say that the gap between the two manufacturers is 'intent' and not 'capability', the French can easily match the BMW if it wants to, especially at the pricing points. Beware BMW.
@autogefuehlАй бұрын
I have no double standards and no reason to
@PawelR23Ай бұрын
@@autogefuehl But I remember that in older videos you could be more critical to things and to looks. You could say what your opinion is about subject you are talking to. Now you dont do it. I'm not saying if this is good or bad. Maybe it's more general so no one will be offended.
@autogefuehlАй бұрын
Hmm on the contrary, I rather speak out way more than I used to, kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHS6lp-grqZjjpYsi=qEMw-djSuzgFrDcR
@dnt06Ай бұрын
They're all going soft, otherwise they won't be invited to new product launches and so on.
@autogefuehlАй бұрын
As I said, on the contrary - can just speak for me
@natoftwАй бұрын
Forged wheels are noticabley lighter than normal alloys, and as this is unsprung weight, it has great effect on the performance, so in a sense the fuel consumption. Someone should do the math if the reduced fuel consumption due to the less unsprung weight would offset the "recycled" alloys.
@Jason-ml3vsАй бұрын
Great, a KIA Forte for 3 times the price.
@GangstasCatАй бұрын
I can feel Thomas cry behind his smile
@TL-xw6fhАй бұрын
Wow, even BMW has now begun to copy a Kia i20 or i30! Kia must be very pleased.
@randomlonglegcat7973Ай бұрын
It genuinely looks like a KIA 🤦
@jonathanbender4691Ай бұрын
Way better than the original, which looked very odd from the rear. The shark nose looks good to me.
@carfella7994Ай бұрын
I love it, I'm going straight out and buying it now!
@PaulMeier-cu3dsАй бұрын
Thank you for the usual informed detailed. It is a very good looking car both outside and in. If this were to be my last ICE before I go EV, I would disappointed with just four cylinders though that does not seem to have impacted badly on performance. For the sort of car I want the comparator would be the M version of the 1 series, and it is not obvious which to choose. Also there is quite a lot of both price and feature competition from the higher end of BMW’s sub brand Mini. This suggests BMW are doing a good job of segmenting the market as we all transition to EV. Contrast this to VW which has yet to get this all quite right.
@spade439728 күн бұрын
They cleaned up the piano black, and capacitive buttons, def a step in the right direction
@friggincanvee26 күн бұрын
0:25 Thomas I think what you mean when you say matte here is actually 'not metallic', is that right? Do you mean Brooklyn Grey looks gloss rather than matte? There is a distinction between matte and gloss, flat or non-metallic and metallic.
@dd-dd2coАй бұрын
BMW needs to sack their designers and whoever approved this.
@cyberpope2137Ай бұрын
Somehow the 2 series is now one of the most conservative looking BMWs, aside from the FWD proportions.
@robertadrianwayneАй бұрын
Forget about the 1,2,3 series name brand, call it the suppository because it looks like one. I will keep my driving my E39, thank you.
@jessetuomi9588Ай бұрын
Now 2-series is front wheel drive! I really hope that Neue Klasse -lineup is something nice, or I will abandon BMW for good. I used to love Bimmers and I have had many different models through 3 decades.
@sotosanagno8331Ай бұрын
Although the exterior design is hideous, the quality of the interior seems quite good for an entry level bmw, same as 1 series.
@ejemmexyАй бұрын
People don't understand that BMW doesn't make this car to smash sales, they make this car to look bad so we can buy the 3,4 and 5 series... they don't care about how much sales the 2 series will break.
@ymlcccАй бұрын
is this the twin brother of Kia Forte??????
@bigmacdaddy1234Ай бұрын
Holy Dodge Dart clone Batman
@ivangolem1459Ай бұрын
T did you consider reading children's stories to get them to sleep.. you have such a smooth voice and relaxing, i sometimes fall asleep (positive).. opposite from you is Mr Car Maniac, i can't listen like 10 minutes it's exhausting, no punkte, no kommas just loud and fast talking 😅
@robdavies82Ай бұрын
BMWs always look nice and exclusive, until you see hundreds of them everyday on the motorway and it will just become like any other car 😂
@piglet5287Ай бұрын
Is it a form of wokeism, that designers feel they have to avoid an exterior that could ever be construed as aggressive or exciting? It's notable that the interior is a good deal more convincing. You see the same in cars like the Nissan Ariya; an emphasis on interior plushness pushing aside any pretentions to sportiness. But it's upsetting for BMW to go down this path
@fdgdfg6Ай бұрын
the organic look is something refreshing.
@x104Ай бұрын
The European oem landscape will be very different in 10 years. We're seeing now the beginnings of the end
@pawel-goscickiАй бұрын
I think BMW is now playing a game called "who can make the ugliest car".
@RSMovieLapseАй бұрын
they dont analyze comments at all. otherwise why da hell they kept preparing this for production?? thank you BMW for making my selection 33,3 percent easier
@NMRH258Ай бұрын
Dear Thomas: Please personally tell the current design team working at BMW that I despise and abhor all of them. -sincerely,
@MySkullzDentedАй бұрын
I don't like it at all. Looks like a sedan Ford Focus, or any other generic commuter. It's not a bad looking car, but doesn't look like a BMW
@MATC9349Ай бұрын
Thanks for this now the 5 series looks not that bad.
@guyhocks5757Ай бұрын
Happy Halloween
@vladmihai306Ай бұрын
ford fiesta gran coupe
@ejohnson3131Ай бұрын
It’s pretty nice for a 2016 Kia Stinger!
@polarweisАй бұрын
And the x1 looks so good. I understand that the head of design will be replaced by the guy who now is doing mini.
@bulltomАй бұрын
Is this the new shape of Ford Mondeo , or the Escort ?????
@baronvonjo1929Ай бұрын
I dont hate the deisgn. I think people are being to dramatic in the comments. But it does look like a Kia from 2016. Also I cant believe they over that weak 3 cylinder. Why bither buying a BMW if thats the powertrain you're stuck with. Waste of money. The back seat looks worthless. Just get a coupe.
@dodadadi9662Ай бұрын
The front design reminded me of that amphibian creature in the first Hellboy movie in 2004, the blue fellow 😂