Why do people take a BMW 2 Series Gran Coupé over a 3 Series? New M235 driving REVIEW!

[@autogefuehl]

►Shop for merchandise: autogefuehl.shop/ ►Subscribe here: kzbin.info ►Also subscribe to our KZbin shorts channel: www.youtube.com/@thomasautogefuhl?sub_confirmation=1 ►Follow us on Facebook / Instagram / TikTok @autogefuehl ►Sustainability in the automotive industry documentary: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2nKf4uih6yhnaMsi=bCdeJZORRHNcVmV2 This is our in-depth review of the new 2025 BMW 2 Series Gran Coupé as BMW M235. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience. 00:00 2 Series GC vs 3 Series 03:05 Engines and performance 04:24 Indicators and suspension 06:10 Interior quality and comfort 08:27 Cockpit and interface 10:36 Rear seats 12:10 Trunk / boot 13:01 Launch Control and speed 17:21 Road driving and comfort 22:51 Price 2 Series or 3 Series #BMW #BMW2Series

[@RJMitch24]

Because it's the size that the 3 Series should be, which is the size the 5 Series should be, which is the size the 7 Series should be.

[@jhirmanetan624]

They got bigger n bigger in time

[@josefinkjellsson7051]

💯

[@dorstefan]

Very well said.

[@trexeyesonly55]

You like smaller?

[@ecolon217]

Should? Or you’d like ?

[@dorstefan]

If I wouldn't see the badge, I wouldn't know it's a BMW.

[@fale892]

BMW and KIA really did swap designers hey

[@Cruise_Beny]

Thought I was the only one seeing that😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@GBFeb72]

😴😴😴😴😴😴🐏🐏🐏

[@stevejung6470]

Damm thats an insult to bmw. It does look like a cheap kia

[@GBFeb72]

@ grow up

[@SwiftHDX]

​@@stevejung6470It's an insult to Kia. This is so much uglier.

[@eponymous7910]

Temu Bimmer

[@benhaze1010]

lol

[@l.e.i.4111]

Kia should be very proud of this new design language BMW is currently using🤭

[@MarkTomeh]

I think the exterior looks worse than the new Kias

[@tomhan]

I really don't think anyone is going to make that choice. It looks like a discount store 3 series

[@questionyourself718]

Just a bait title for clicks. Looking at Sales Numbers, the 3 Series outsells the 2 Series Gran Coupe by a factor of x4 - x7 depending on the market.

[@sportscaradvocate846]

The counter argument is you are buying a Mini Cooper underneath with a Kia sedan design for a lot more money. I would rather have the Mini. This 2 series is one of the most uninspired designs going around. BMW needs to be premium, this is not.

[@PBandJ25]

The reviews that you and Leah make are excellent. Very detailed, thorough easy to understand, and very conversational. Very early Frohe Weihnacheten wishes to you all!

[@autogefuehl]

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[@autogefuehl]

And all the best for the holiday season!

[@eponymous7910]

I'll never understand why manufacturers place charging ports right next to cupholders 🤦

[@autogefuehl]

True

[@Holance]

So when you accidentally drip water into the charging port, dealership can charge you big money to fix it.

[@danielrcoster]

18:37 love the car spotting commentary in traffic. ☺️

[@autogefuehl]

=)

[@Lordvader330]

I bought one for my daughter on your last review. It's one of the best car we have owned. We have the M235.

[@autogefuehl]

Enjoy 😎

[@angelortunorubio6899]

The best thing about the car, without a doubt, the color, reminds me of Porsche's Miami blue. As always, Great review

[@autogefuehl]

cheers m8 !

[@prothor]

Good to hear Leas opinion and that she voices it. Way to go, Lea ❣️

[@PawelR23]

The front looks really bad. Great video as usual Thomas

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks m8!

[@Krsnakp]

Front of the car is disappointing. Not very asthetically designed. Front looks like hiding new design wallpaper underneath. Small headlights ratio to bonnet size.

[@billx4266]

I will take a 3 series every time over this 2 series monstrocity

[@brunomadeira8432]

If the 1 series was still riding on a proper BMW platform it would indeed be an interest question. Considering it isn't there's nothing to see there.

[@flashsushi1843]

BMW does come with one of the better infotainment systems I guess for people who want the BMW brand cachet and a well above average driving dynamics vehicle with pep, but with a budget, this is the BMW to spring for. I would rather get a slightly used M340xi as M Sport Differential is standard and four-doors is most convenient.

[@jagman999]

Can barely identify that as a BMW. Lights and grill used to be very distinct. Could be any car now

[@autogefuehl]

Data & facts: BMW 2 Series Gran Coupé Sold globally, produced in Leipzig, Germany, plant powered by wind power Colors: Borusan Turkish Blue (main vehicle) Brooklyn Grey (studio with illuminated grill) Optional illuminated front grill, optional Matrix LED New suspension rework Length 4,55 m 179“ stayed the same (16 cm / 6“ shorter than 3 Series, wheelbase 18 cm / 7“ shorter) 17-19“ wheels All tail pipes invisible except for M235 M235 with horizontal grill bars, 19“ wheels, sports suspension with frequency adaptive dampers and differential lock on the front Animal free interior standard Base seat fabric Optional sport seats in Econeer fabric or perforated Veganza leatherette, M Sport or M235 in Veganza/Alcantara mix or M Sport seats with integrated head restraints in Veganza/Alcantara or Veganza leatherette M Sport steering wheel only animal leather part 430 l trunk 216 1,5 l 3 cyl 120 hp FWD 220 1,5 l 3 cyl 170 hp MHEV 7,9 s FWD (65 kg lighter than 3 Series 320i) 223 2,0 l 4 cyl 218 hp MHEV (EU) AWD 228 2,0 l 4 cyl (US entry) 245 hp FWD/AWD M235 2,0 l 4 cyl 300 hp or 317 hp in NA 4,9 s AWD 4,7 s US figure (20 kg lighter than 3 Series 330i xDrive, acceleration between 330i and M340i) 218d 2,0 l 4 cyl 150 hp 9,3 s FWD 220d 2,0 l 4 cyl 163 hp MHEV 8,0 s FWD 36.500 Euro entry 60.000 M235 + 6.500 Extras 39.000 USD - 49.000 USD M235 plus extras 330i 45,500 USD (5000-6000 Euro more expensive) Transparency note: Autogefühl videos are independent and free from editorial influence on opinion and rating. But since manufacturers enable us to do the reviews in the first place, for legal reasons this video is marked as _advertisement_.

[@utxex97]

What is the length of the wheelbase?

[@illllilllililil]

looks like kia

[@mihnealazar7039]

Thankfully you don't need to get the nose fully black, in the standard m sport trim the silver surround separates the two kidneys and it looks less like a Kia

[@hermilomeira]

or maybe a Ford Fiesta

[@Cho_JJ238]

Nice Kia Ceed

[@anemeth9281]

BECAUSE 30 yrs ago, the size of the current 2 series was equivalent to the 3 series

[@gregorygant4242]

Nice car it has the old 3-Series size which is not too small not too big just right that's why people buy it I think. Not too keen on that color it looks like a gelato icecream color to me too bright for my taste. The performance is pretty good for a small 3 cylinder engine , in fact it's pretty impressive the acceleration . Looks like very fun car to drive . Great review detailed as always Thomas. Have a good one , Ciao , ciao !

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks m8!

[@Idk_about_anything]

I see many old gen M140i models, I don't see any new 1 series or 2 series

[@WhateverItTakesLIVE]

beacause its fwd crap mini shit not a true bmw

[@neillgowans4350]

The irony being that Minis are 1 Series rebadged.

[@aj4819]

Don't mind the exterior at all, it's the interior that I don't like. It's 'clean' and modern but a bit vacant at the same time. Those screens just don't do it for me and I prefer the prior generation. I don't mind the bigger screens on the more expensive models, but these smaller ones feel a little bit budget.

[@kevinephily8357]

Love this guy reviews you always kills it.

[@autogefuehl]

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[@DJL78]

Question? He knows. The best car content on KZbin Nobody does it better.

[@autogefuehl]

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[@DJL78]

@ love to see you join Bluesky! It is far superior to Threads and X. Nice people and none of the Musk grossness and freaks.

[@leloko.s]

Kia Ceed

[@dorstefan]

Hyundai I30 Fastback.

[@GBFeb72]

😴😴😴

[@SpectralBloo]

Time for a comparison of the 3 German saloons in this segment. I think the size of cars in this segment are just right.

[@valhakun]

Wow, Autogefühl got their hands on a real-life GTA car 😮

[@denshidirect3182]

Those doors sound just like the doors on my 2003 Mazda Protege.

[@TheRealYaro]

😂 love the Protégé. Owned a few generations since 1989.

[@dmpanis]

They messed with the front lights so much, they ruined a car that was always a good looker even on its base trim.

[@muhammedjemal2742]

I don't get the front of BMWs these days. I should design it for them.

[@Gibbits5.7]

I believe comfort should be saved for the suv. Let the sports cars be sports cars

[@peterdelage6759]

Just look at the size of a 3 series of 40 years ago, the current series 3 are the size of a 5 series of 40 years ago and the current 5 series are the size of a 7 series of 40 years😊

[@hollowtian6148]

The only reason people take this over the 3 series is because this is cheaper.😂😂 it’s ugly, and it’s a front wheel drive car. There’s no reason you would want this other than you just want a box to get you from A to B

[@rimmerblues1586]

Yes, spot on!!

[@p.k.7111]

No one is taking this over 3 series.

[@katiecannon8186]

@@p.k.7111 I have no interest in this car. But I like small cars, so would definitely look at this over the 3

[@maverick4177]

The best bit of the car is the rubber trousers 👍🏻

[@steverogers7211]

Doors sound like an empty soda can..

[@jonwear9791]

🤣🤣BMW's new strategy aims to reduce costs and increase profits.

[@bck0001]

@@jonwear9791they better not cut my stock dividends!

[@jegerm6752]

It may be a good driving car, but my god, it’s ugly.

[@YYZ-SRQ]

A Mini in BMW packaging

[@jean-christophethirion4553]

I had a few 1 (3 or 5 doors) and 2 Coupé with the rear wheel drive, it was so fun thanks to the short wheel base. I also appreciated the added comfort of my previous 4 Gran Coupé, also with more space for the passengers (1 and 2 are cars for singles !), and a larger trunk. My next one will be a 420d or the i4 😊

[@JMNTN]

The new turn signal "pulse" just look like something is broken

[@freeskier175]

The best car review channel. Nice to see someone do their homework and isnt a copy.and paste presentation.

[@autogefuehl]

🙏🙏

[@GaryJohnWalker1]

That backend looks like something's missing - hasn't been fully assembled and the proper plastic bumper needs fitting

[@Maxi86inAction]

My f21 1series frameless doors sound like heaven.

[@maplegreen6900]

Es wäre toll, wenn Sie einen geeigneten Weg finden könnten, die Kamera in der Mitte von Autos ohne Panoramadach zu platzieren. Wenn Sie sich erinnern, war ich einer der ersten, der damals wiederholt Kommentare abgegeben hat, als alle Videos mit der Kamera am Seitenfenster gefilmt wurden. Sie haben zugehört, und ich glaube, das war einer der Gründe für das Wachstum des Kanals. Ich denke, Sie könnten einen Weg finden, die Kamera mithilfe der Sitzstangen oder auf andere Weise sicher in der Mitte zu befestigen.

[@aye3678]

No issues with the interior, looks good. However... the exterior design is ugly. I've tried to like it, but nope. Just does not look good.

[@NigelRudyard]

It's a better shape, and unlike the current senior models, they've not hit it with the ugly stick yet.

[@Fred-rv2tu]

I’m currently doing a 450 mile commute in an old Mazda. Thinking about replacing it with one of these. Was originally thinking an older z3 would be more fun but I’d be able to stick the kids in this when I’m home.

[@katiecannon8186]

GTI/R is way prettier & practical

[@yadevable]

This m235 cannot compete in any way with the 2024 Audi S3 facelift... the Audi has much better looks, interior, sound, driving dynamics...

[@michaelstaunton1632]

Good video 👍👍👍

[@autogefuehl]

Cheers m8!

[@chasf3433]

Quite simply it is the small sports saloon that the 3 series used to be. Shame about the styling though which does not match it's price tag and has no BMW heritage.

[@RVDL]

I dislike the headlights. So not BMW like. Please fire the entire design unit, hire designers that design in the line of the classic BMW cars.

[@thabisomolelle2475]

Looks like a Kia Forte/Cerato

[@D-Ogi]

/Cee'd

[@anjdog2003]

I have a M235 and it's a great car

[@mikemayers8672]

This might be the most fun bmw currently made. Even M cars are heavy relative to this model

[@LoomSync]

Too bad they don’t have the hatchback version in the U.S. I would purchase one 😢

[@amrinderbahl]

The front looks like a ford fiesta.😂

[@katiecannon8186]

It really does

[@GBFeb72]

Love that colour

[@edwarddejong8025]

Gorgeous blue color. a cute little car. The best looking Honda Civic ever made by BMW ha ha.

[@MuitoDaora]

People complaining about the interior must be young, because just thinking in comparison to like 15 years ago to cars in this category this interior is very good. And to about 20 to 30 years ago this interior is fantastic.

[@fale892]

We are talking about the present, not bygone years

[@MuitoDaora]

​@@fale892Thas exactly what I'm talking about. Pretty good for entry level BMW. Need to compare with the past, not higher price brackets.

[@tpolerex7282]

The screens look pretty cheap to me, a few analog gauges and proper switchgear would go a long way to bringing some substance to this somewhat econobox interior.

[@szotakandrei]

Lol. Look at a Genesis interior. This has zero class. Cheap plastics and tablets everywhere and boom, interior done. Wonderful

[@WhatisaLee]

Had a 2006 Acura TLX. This interior is a downgrade in comparison.

[@freeskier175]

Can't wait for the big changes.coming to BMW.

[@rimmerblues1586]

I can't agree that a shorter wheelbase car has "better driving dynamics", true it's more nippy in bends but that doesn't mean _better_ drive - certainly not ride. It think this car would be better if it had a combi/estate or even lift-back version as a saloon is quite limiting so best stick with a 1-Series [outside of US], indeed with the last gen even though the interiors of the 1-series & 2-series GC both looked identical, the 1er felt more comfortable. In any case i would NOT spend any money on a modern BMW - 1, 2 or 3 series - as these cars feel cheap and lacking in soul, newbies to the brand maybe be fooled by the superficial luxury and flashy gimmicks but they're no longer truly "premium", and FWD based platform is disappointing, yes it's ok around at speeds but wheelspin when accelerating from a standstill at lights or junctions is so annoying. I do admit their engines are good, though.

[@PPpaladin]

I see bmw's designer forget to design the front sensors again, at least they remember front license plate exist this time unlike the 3&4 series

[@iosifarmenean494]

I hear a bit of rattle in the door closing sound,that why I don't like it

[@nickgiles7568]

Excellent review so thank you Thomas. Are we going to see Leah behind the steering wheel in 2025 ?

[@autogefuehl]

hehe I hope so

[@Mr.Lambert777]

I wish BMW would make a M2 GC xdrive

[@markycupko]

This car is an overpriced FWD Mini reskin (looking like Kia from Aliexpress), definitely not a Bimmer

[@zakg1935]

Only reason why people would buy the two series grand coupe because it’s cheap cheaper

[@Anko88888]

the mirror marker and head/tail light blinkers go out of sync, that is horrible

[@PaulTC97]

only if the front grill was split in half like past bmws

[@ash2730]

My biggest issue with new BMWs is this

[@mileusna]

Proportions of the 2 series Grand Coupe are not that great, much better looking as hatchback. BMW 3 series sedan is looking much better.

[@albertobenelli]

it looks soooooo bad . Very cheaply designed car . Looks awful .

[@xzst]

You are much better off buying a 318i/320i or a used 330i - will drive much better, transmission is a lot more refined, will ride better etc.

[@DeeJaay-u2x]

Hi Thomas! In response to your rear turn signal being red in the US/Canadian market comment, while the US and Canada allow either red or amber rear turns signals, how it differs from the EU is that turn signals in the US/Canada also have to comply with a size requirement, and to more easily differentiate a turn signal when the brake lights and turn signals are both active. If you notice on the European spec version of the same car, the rear amber turn signal isn't as big as the rear red turn signal on the North American spec. 🙂

[@autogefuehl]

Also interesting :) I wonder how the Tesla Model 3 could have such a small indicator before the facelift

[@autogefuehl]

or was it the brake light basically in the US?

[@DeeJaay-u2x]

@@autogefuehl The pre-facelift Tesla Model 3 in the US/Canada had all red rear lights (except for the backup lights of course), and the brake light doubled as the turn signal (which is allowed in the US/Canada), which met the size requirement, and of course red is allowed in the US/Canada for rear turn signals.

[@DeeJaay-u2x]

This is also why those narrow strip LED sequential turn signal are not allowed in the US; archaic laws require that the initial "brightest flash" of the turn signal has to be a certain large size, and one little LED light being the first flash does not meet that size requirement. How this would meet US/Canadian law would be for the whole strip to flash first, and then it fades out sequentially, like on the EV Mustang.

[@barryfastcars25]

It is hard to look at this thing. Hardly anything to identify it as a BMW. Why can't they make their FWD cars with a more teutonic 3 box design, that hood height and angle is horrid.

[@srikanthshastry4546]

The front grill honestly reminds me of the "Austrian painter's" mustache, very sinister indeed!

[@VMKisselev]

Hi Thomas. Could you please make a video with basic or standard suspension! End with 17/18 wheels. BMW 1 and 2 series.

[@pjp13579]

The BMW designer responsible for this monstrosity went to RR. Maybe the 3 Series will be saved from his butchering

[@nnr3]

@1:35 whether the engine is 3 or 4 cylinder or even 5 or 6 cylinder there will be no effect in the length of the car since the engine is transverse mounted. Just fyi.

[@autogefuehl]

you cant put 6 cyl transverse in this one here

[@nnr3]

@@autogefuehl there is no 6 cylinder option in this model yes, I just used that as an example to explain that the cylinder count, as long as it is an inline and not a V, does not affect the length of the vehicle if it is in a transverse layout. The inline engine grows sideways (west to east) as the cylinder count increases, so in theory it is the width of the vehicle that would be affected, not the length. Transverse inline 6 layout is not available from BMW but it has been done before by other manufacturers. Volvo (before their Geely days) used to offer inline 4, inline 5 and inline 6 engines simultaneously in a transverse layout. Please excuse me posting this reply multiple times, on my phone it says the reply was not posted so I posted it again and again.

[@Die_Quelle]

How would you compare the F70 vs the F74 perfomance and price-performance wise? Im always on the hunt for good price/perfomance deals and since im on a yearly subscription model im constantly checking and there might be a good deal for one of the two bmws even though i think the best perfomance you can get for the money is the new golf 8.5R. But all those cars play in the same price region (kinda....) I had this last year and it is really pleasure to drive. Currently im driving the G20 330i RWD.

[@Pewnhound112]

If they could take the front end of the F44 and the back end of the F74, BMW would have a good looking 2 series.

[@3321far]

I am thinking about it. The 228i is built in Germany. The 3 Series in Mexico. Somehow I trust German craftsmanship over Mexican craftsmanship.

[@dafa8592]

You are one of the best reviews of the cars . THOMAS please every car you review can you to measure the ground clearance of a car?? you can measure the distance from the lowest part of the car to the ground. 🙏 🙏 🙏 Thank you

[@autogefuehl]

thanks m8 ! Hmm its tricky to find the lowest part actually since it is often very much hidden underneath!

[@Graham_Shaw]

I'll stick with my G21 M340I Touring, with it's 6 pot B58 engine, Good showing though, from the M235, I suppose, I need more luggage space/ practicality.

[@tylerolson5860]

Absolutely not give me a 340i xdrive missile

[@fredericoamigo]

This is NOT cool…. The 3 series is way way way way cooler

[@mrhmd8308]

Is this the shortest hood/ front end BMW in length? I noticed that the driver’s position is very close to the front bumper

[@cristian51]

i love my 218d gran coupe m sport 2022

[@electrikoptik]

BMW hired aliexpress to design their cars

[@xxzmk]

I kinda find the 2 series grand coupe wrongly placed in the market. The same goes for the A3/S3/RS3 Sedan. They are like very short sedans. I get the gist about wanting to have a lightweight car, but even as a bigger car I think its not hard to get the weight low. The BMW F30 was a perfectly sized compact class Sportssedan with 4,63m length and 2,81m wheelbase. I generally like comfortable cars more than sporty ones and found my F30 tbh also very sporty even if it didn't had the M Sport drivetrain. Currently the only compact class vehicles that are from interest as a sedan ish form are either: A wagon: Golf 8 Variant R-Line with 1.5 eTSi, Mercedes Benz CLA as a Coupe or Shooting Brake. Anything else seems to compete against their own company brothers and make 0 sense.

[@drive5399]

All forget about one thing 3 series has 3 l engine and always RWD prefer…2 series has max 2 l 4 cyl and FWD prefer….. w series has haldex.. :(

[@BrakeForLoop]

So it's smaller but weighs about the same as a 3 series. Why.. whyyyyyyy.... and why isn't it rear wheel biased. If it was lighter and rear wheel biased, I would have forgiven its bland eco looks. Disappointment BMW

[@maplegreen6900]

It would be great if you could find a proper way to place the camera in the center of cars that don’t have a panoramic roof. If you remember, I was one of the first people to comment repeatedly back then, when all the videos were filmed with the camera on the side window. You listened, and I believe that was one of the reasons for the channel's growth. I think you could find a way to securely fix the camera in the center using the seat rods or other way.

[@freeskier175]

Yes, because of your repeated comments the channel.became successful. 😂

[@maplegreen6900]

@@freeskier175 Because he listens , you dumb

[@us1fedvet]

Looks beneath the expectation I’d demand from a BMW.

[@sakurazero3641]

I would take the 3er any day over this. The last bmw looking bmw limousine. Its not that this car is not just not beautiful but it also looks nothing likeca bmw. Which is really a first. But my question to you thomas is what you think of bmw putting a M logo on every car now? Doesn't it depreciate a true m?

[@JeftasBookClub]

Agree that car design works best when manufacturers aren’t shy about colors. This one looks exquisite 😍

[@thandananidlamini8978]

The front looks good, not sure about the back, nothing modern about it