Is tire cupping causing road noise in your car? (womp womp)

[@joyofwrenching]

what's the weirdest thing you've found stuck in a tire? Funny answers get bonus points!

[@joshheater]

I can’t believe I found this video. This is the exact problem I’m having with my Prius. Your title of your video doesn’t indicate Prius at all! so I’m happy I found it. Thanks for creating such good videos

[@joyofwrenching]

@@joshheater so glad you found it too! Thanks for watching and keep that joy of wrenching!

[@Lifeissofunny]

The sound you make is exactly how my car sound

[@warm_cereal_at_3am]

Same 😭

[@m.a.patterson6222]

Thanks! My 2013 Honda Crosstour has been making this noise, along with the bouncing at low speeds. A technician told me there is cupping on the tire due to the shocks being worn. I came here to learn and understand. Your explanations are very clear and easy to understand. Great video, thanks!

[@Honestcarry]

Been at my wits end searching for my issue. I think you just saved me from more headaches. Thank you very much! Going to pull my tires off tomorrow and see if there is cupping.

[@joyofwrenching]

Glad I could help! And I hope it's something simple and easy.

[@brianmichon160]

BEST. Explanation on KZbin..thank you

[@joyofwrenching]

Thank you Brian!

[@jamesodiomu9079]

Many thanks..much love from Uganda Kampala .....

[@joyofwrenching]

Thanks my friend!

[@gavinposey2089]

This has been very helpful. Thank you!

[@joyofwrenching]

You're very welcome, stay tuned, more to come soon, and a little teaser...we're gonna have a little fun with the next ones!

[@johnrupple4318]

Well done. Thanks, this was very helpful.

[@joyofwrenching]

Thanks and your''re welcome John.

[@Okie-Tom]

My daughters Focus did this on the rear. Had to replace the tire and get the car alignment done!

[@joyofwrenching]

Glad she noticed and got it fixed before the tire got too bad and blew out on her

[@jimmyboyles2868]

Did you replace the shocks? Just bought a 14 Focus with same issue.

[@kenjenkillasounds]

This is EXACTLY what I HEAR‼️‼️

[@Momomeeks89]

Thanks for this

[@joyofwrenching]

You bet! Hope it helped you out! Thanks for watching and for the feedback.

[@khansaqib89]

Thank you for the video, i faced the same issue.

[@joyofwrenching]

Glad you found it helpful my friend

[@dettigers2323]

That was awesome !!!!

[@joyofwrenching]

Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it. Keep that joy in wrenching!

[@ehsanull]

This happened on my 2022 Camry , problem is my warranty is out, also I checked the shock, brand new no dust or oily. I’m thinking manufactured issue with shocks or somewhere in suspension. Dealer told me it was the wheel bearing. I replaced that also new tires. But after a 2 months the same sound came. I haven’t touched the inner tire yet. But it’s driving me nuts because it’s still new car. The issue came when it was around 20k miles, now the car has 72k

[@花太香郑]

Mine has the same problem with the rear tire on 2019 Camry. Rear tire always get inner cupping even with new shock. It has been bothering me since 35k miles. Now my car has 64k miles. Every day driving with humble noise especially when it reach to 65mph and up

[@CharlesBallard-f3t]

You’re right. Replace the shocks. Works every time on a Toyota anyway.

[@joyofwrenching]

these were the 2nd set on this prius...I wonder if the extra battery weight has anything to do with the failure frequency or if it's just the poor quality of the Duralast brand used? Any ideas?

[@AntonioGomez-du3zi]

@@joyofwrenchingpoor quality at autozone for sure, I used to work there and you have no idea how many times we had to warranty suspension parts because they just failed frequently.

[@big4g63t]

I've got a rav4 same cupping both rear tires.. i rotated to the front to see if the noise was the tire indeed and the noise moved to the front, ordered rear shocks...... will them being on the front wear them back smooth again?

[@CharlesBallard-f3t]

@@big4g63t unfortunately no

[@sakaraist]

I mostly deal with heavy equipment, but we do see this from time to time. Usually from shocks with a slow leak. they tend to get to a point where they're oscillating at just the right frequency and all sorts of damage occurs. Quite cool to see but annoying to deal with for sure.

[@joyofwrenching]

yeah, I noticed when I removed these shocks they still kindof worked in the full range of motion, but the first couple of inches of travel was free play, so I think it just allowed the tire to bounce a little too much but not enough to shake the rear view mirror off!

[@sancholives8231]

I have a 14 Edge and had that Womp Womp. I just got new tires 2 days ago and still have the Womp womp. Im thinking Wheel bearing for me.. thoughts?

[@joyofwrenching]

That's possible, but check those rims to be sure there's no bends in them from someone hitting a curb, that could cause it too!

[@Thohean]

Mine did this because the tire had a slow leak. I only had access to an air compressor on the weekend, so it would get low during the week. I didn't know a low tire would get damaged this way, but I was replacing it in a few months, so I didn't take the time to get it fixed. Plenty of tread, just changing to a different wheel size.

[@joyofwrenching]

that's interesting...maybe the tire being low acted like it was out of balance and helped cause this type of wear...any other ideas out there?

[@Mrpugi]

Very helpful full now I know

[@amb7247]

I had bad bushings on my lower control arms. Thise are replaced now. Soon to get new tires and front alignment. Hope it works

[@joyofwrenching]

crazy how little things like bushings and leaky shocks can cause bad tire wear so fast

[@jze17]

Can a steering rack and pinion cause the same cupping?

[@joyofwrenching]

good question, but I'd say probably not since it is caused by the tire bouncing up and down really fast

[@ETX213]

*Damn, what did you record this with?*

[@joyofwrenching]

Probably a GoPro. Had a camera girl so that helps a ton

[@AidynAnton]

a shop tried telling me my rear tires were cupped when i went it to balance my front drivers tire, said i needed all new tires. went home not paying and checked my tires and they’re fine? why do they ignore what i went in for and look for other problems

[@joyofwrenching]

sometimes they are trying to rip you off, sometimes just mistaken, sometimes the tech is told to sell more stuff by the manager...we have to be knowledgeable about these things to keep our hard earned money in our wallets!

[@kaiser2747]

But could the tyre explode on that case?

[@joyofwrenching]

@@kaiser2747 I would think only in extreme cases where it wore down through the rubber and into the steel belting

[@jimmyboyles2868]

Looks like your prius had Duralast shocks. Are they lifetime or what kind did you put on?

[@FullThrottleBHP]

Having tire cupping on inside edge of both front tires. 2010 GLK350 wverythingbis looking tight in the front end, shocks dont appear to have any fluid leakage or build up. Front thrust arm has some cracking in bushing but still returns to center with side load applied. Do you think a wheel alignment alone would cause these or is there a problm im just not seeing ?

[@tanguis19]

Replaced both rear hubs and bearings still hearing wah wah wah from passenger rear . Hoping that this is the issue

[@CharlesBallard-f3t]

Never had a Toyota need an alignment job . I believe shocks would’ve done it for the Ford focus.

[@joyofwrenching]

right, alignment typically eats the tires in a different way just evenly worn either inside or outside in my experience...what about you guys?

[@martehoudesheldt5885]

bad shocks and bad balance on the tires. does it every time

[@titou6799]

Happen now with my BMW f10, and it's very ennoying, so I changed the front suspension and now I will change the tires 😢

[@denisee9807]

My 2005 jeep liberty makes a 'rubbing noise' coming from passenger rear What is that? It may be womping I'm not sure

[@joyofwrenching]

could be tire, wheel hub, brakes, something rubbing on tire, etc. best to look up in there and see if anything looks rubbed on, if not, check tire for weird wear patterns, if not, jack up wheel and spin tire around and see if you hear it, check brakes and hub/bearings

[@denisee9807]

@@joyofwrenching thanks Comparing Tire shops now

[@joebradley1520]

You can shave your tires true

[@joyofwrenching]

@@joebradley1520 how or where do you get that done?

[@edbuell3181]

I’ve had a womp womp sound. Mostly while turning left. 30-70 mph. Not consistent. Did alignment asked them to look for issues. Couldn’t find any. Going nuts, it’s been a year. Zero vibrations, zero handling issues.🤷‍♂️ Womp womp womp

[@joyofwrenching]

Could be CV axle or tire. Try simple thing first and rotate tires in x pattern. See if noise goes away or moves with tire. Also check that the inner fender liner isn't loose and rubbing on tire at speed. Bearings would be next to check

[@edbuell3181]

Thanks for your time. I have 2 of the same car. Swapped all 4 rims/tires and sound stays w/ original car. Rwd so no cv axle. It sounds like front left. It did start after putting new rotors on. I’ve been meaning to switch them with the ‘good’ car and see if that works. It almost seems like lifting the car resets the issue. I can often go 10-100+ miles without hearing the sound after an attempt at fixing.

[@edbuell3181]

@@joyofwrenching I think it’s the differential

[@big4g63t]

I'd guess wheel bearing

[@shiftyuk]

@@edbuell3181did you ever find out what it was? I have an issue after 60mph, sounds like front right but when turning right it’s louder and turning left it’s not really noticeable… I had my wheel bearings checked and car has been balanced / aligned etc… Any idea? Front side it seems. No vibrations or car moving side ways.

[@sharonherrin]

The tires are worn out!

[@joyofwrenching]

yes, the bad shocks will wear out tires like this very fast

[@AllEyezOnRod]

Duralast shock is crap! Get OEM next time.

[@joyofwrenching]

I've had pretty good luck with duralast stuff the past couple of years, and on most of these older cars, people are interested in getting it to last another few months to years not forever, so they choose the cheaper parts. You have a valid point the OEM parts are usually better and designed for that 100k miles so they get out of warranty before breaking...haha!

[@AllEyezOnRod]

@@joyofwrenching very true I agree

[@jassbrar408]

Continentals are junk tires.. the company prefers spending money on advertisement and promotions other than improving the quality of the tire

[@randy-mw5dq]

Don't by kb shocks online their crap.

[@johnyaceyko9775]

Continental are garbage, don't repair. They are not worth it.

[@bjhachannel6747]

Bad camera man