Is Velma That Bad?

[@spectralspectra2282]

The fact that everyone mutually agreed that you made a better Velma than Velma is hilarious

[@icetraigh]

The fact that you used "than" properly actually made me sit up in my chair for a second. :)

[@aidendoesstuff185]

@@icetraigh :)

[@vinnierome]

@@icetraigh do you commonly see that mistake? I don’t go into many comment sections, so I haven’t seen it. What’s your experience with the misuse of “than” like?

[@granzon7396]

@@icetraigh Probably ur language barrier brokes with this comment 💀

[@Seffyzero]

@@vinnierome I'd assume they meant they see people use "then" rather than "than", which is a VERY common mistake.

[@soldiergigas14]

your animated take on Velma has more character in depth than the actual show.

[@davidbonar5190]

"animated take" is next level word play :) respect

[@KarpetBurn]

The voice acting is surprisingly much more emotional then the actual show that uses professional actors lol

[@willmilburn7905]

I thought we were talking about whether or not we’d tap it

[@AlexK-sk4qb]

Better va too

[@RoboShinKen]

Truly. It was better than the show itself. Lol

[@almightylordsatan475]

Velma is literally a Mindy self-insert. She is Mindy Kaling. The whole personality of Velma has been replaced with Mindy's personality. That's why she is so insufferable.

[@krajicsek13]

So does that mean her mom also left her because she couldn't take it anymore?

[@blackfox1320]

And Mindy is an unfunny, hate filled person

[@johnmacangus2634]

Based

[@Zarastro54]

@@krajicsek13 The flashback indicates that.

[@Celeste-jh2lj]

Is that the lady who wrote Im NOT Starfire? I havent watched Velma but from the brief stuff i heard it gives me the same vibes. Self inster that does nothing ruin franchises

[@harvster997]

Mindy Kaling is just such a godawful showrunner, every show she makes is the exact same show with the exact same self insert character each time lol

[@danh.5998]

This is what happens when you live in a self-obsessed time. All people want to see in shows are themselves. Most shows these days are just shitty hagiographies of the writer(s). No universal themes, nothing anyone beside themselves can identify with. No wonder mainstream art is such dog shit nowadays.

[@lindboknifeandtool]

She’s the type that feels she’s being suppressed so if she only had the opportunity she’d kill it, but will never learn that she’s not successful because what she makes sucks. I’m sure it racism or misogyny for her.

[@violetblythe6912]

She’s so good as side characters (where she also plays the exact same self insert 💀) but her shtick does NOT work as the main character. It’s too unlikable to be the main focus of a show, and much funnier in small bursts.

[@Zachary-]

Self-insert is the cardinal sin of writing.

[@Sokolva]

@@Zachary-usually in the hands of poor writers, but some famous examples are incredible. “The Divine Comedy” has a self insert main character, as does two of Leo Tolstoy’s most famous novels “War and Peace” and “Anna Karenina” with important characters amongst the large cast who are self-inserts. Also “Novel Written on Yellow Paper” if that can be considered an example as its very direct and open about it. Very likely “Wuthering Heights”. So many others. It can be done well but the author has to view themselves with honesty and thought, and put just as much effort and compassion into the other characters. It’s like self-portrait-great artists can comment on themselves and their natures in a truly interesting way that is a gift to art. Unfortunately, I’ve heard so many inexperienced writers say they can only write themselves as a character and not see this as an issue; I believe this attitude is where some of the problems and blindness of poor self inserts come from.

[@reviewman]

_Velma_ is proof that good animation can’t save bad writing.

[@ryancols]

It's getting pretty good tho

[@reviewman]

@@ryancols what show are you watching?

[@Hiihtopipa]

Did we need proof about that 🤣 seems obvious

[@JetstreamTheSexSam]

@@ryancols no lol

[@wyattshook2775]

Dude even the animation looks like it was drawn by someone who uses tumblr

[@leek5682]

Velma was always the smartest character, confident about it but never obnoxious. Emotionally stable. Idk why Mindy wanted to ruin this show, but she did a great job.

[@usecoperator1270]

AND WAS WHITE

[@itsdrea2353]

@@usecoperator1270that’s hardly the biggest issue here. could’ve easily done what Marvel and everyone else does, chalk it up to the multiverse.

[@pattykrabbies]

@@usecoperator1270You saw the trash writing and unfaithfulness to the source material and decided Velma not being WHITE was a sole contributor for the show being utter trash?

[@scoob892]

and I hate how they turned Velma into lesbian.

[@usecoperator1270]

@@itsdrea2353 it's not the same character any more

[@JunKazamaFan]

I love how Daphne isn't seen in your animation. Just imagining her reactions to Velma's perverted spiel is more entertainment than the show has provided thus far.

[@theoddwulf6209]

I broke the 69

[@dankmeme682]

Ay they got a Season 2 so they got more animation work atleast. I hope they got paid more though

[@rascallybloom567]

@@theoddwulf6209 you broke the 69, but Velma did the 69

[@viperv6768]

I strongly think that characters who are mean and narcissistic can be very fun to watch, especially when there is no half ass tragic backstory and they don't care that they are horrible people. That being said, you can't make a character like that but have the show claim they are a good person. Embrace the villainy or have the protagonist be decent. This clearly did neither.

[@teddscaut493]

I don’t think the show ever claimed Velma was a good person. She’s clearly portrayed as a hypocritical asshole.

[@urphakeandgey6308]

This is basically the reason why Rick Sanchez worked as a protagonist despite being almost the same in terms of attitude and d-baggery. Velma is portrayed as a "good guy." Rick is not. Rick is a questionable figure at best. Morty is who the audience is supposed to empathize with and he works as the audience's proxy for liking Rick. If Morty wasn't in the show to do that, Rick's character would be insufferable to watch no matter how cool the show is. We'd basically just be watching him be a dirt bag to his family while bullying Jerry and going on whacky adventures in-between.

[@bobaorc7839]

That's why I adore Zuko's character from Avatar TLA. While Zuko had a tragic backstory, the narrative itself never forgives him for his negative actions until he himself reflects, takes accountability for them, and grows past them. The closest the narrative comes to using the tragic backstory is in the early story when Iroh is contextualizing Zuko's treatment of the helmsman and his crew. Which honestly could just be handwaved as explaining to the audience, as it's our first experience with that plotline. Yet even then it's during the storm that nearly claimed the life of the helmsman had Zuko not risked himself to save him that make them respect Zuko as their leader. Not his tragic backstory, or his Uncle playing defense for him.

[@yourwife1111]

It’s like a full cast of Bojack Horsemans

[@publiusventidiusbassus1232]

​@@yourwife1111 yeah, but Bojack was never excused in his show. Every time he fkd another thing up in his life, the show made it very clear it was his own fault and now he must deal with it. You can have a despicable protagonist as long as the narrative doesn't sanction their immorality.

[@NASkeywest]

I love how Mindy self inserted herself as “Velma” and became one of the most hated character’s ever. Hope she realizes that means people hate being around her.

[@hdofu]

I always found her the most obnoxious charcter on the Office.

[@KorihorTheSaint]

@@hdofu yeah but at least she was funny as a character

[@RankStankulon]

@@KorihorTheSaint I thought she was a kinda funny character at first but then I started to feel more like it was actually just Mindy being herself 😂

[@Bitholeous]

that's mean

[@KorihorTheSaint]

@@RankStankulon I mean all of her other characters kinda do resemble Kelly lol, so maybe

[@anomonyous]

God, it's easy to forget how good Meat is at voice acting sometimes.

[@itsblitz4437]

Who is that?

[@jackkrempa8069]

@@itsblitz4437 the guy in the video

[@JpegDog]

@@itsblitz4437 Papa Meat is also MeatCanyon

[@itsblitz4437]

@@JpegDog oh thanks.

[@Thejbelow]

totally my thoughts as well

[@yeetyeeterson1914]

You actually had me believing they contacted you for input on the show and then Velma says “your bean is probably the size of a Scooby snack”

[@nicolaskeroack7860]

... and smooth and hairless..

[@420Gold]

lolololol

[@dingleberrysnigglefritz]

@@nicolaskeroack7860 Rough hairy bean? That's not the norm, is it?

[@nicolaskeroack7860]

@@dingleberrysnigglefritz Yeah but a child wouldn't have pubic hair

[@robertjohnson2916]

@@nicolaskeroack7860 teenagers have pubic hair.

[@skittykatmraow]

Why is one internet guy better at voice acting than the cast of an entire television series

[@texas9871]

I love how he gave velma the deepest most manly voice💀

[@tyrannus1987]

Well she is clearly gonna be the man in the relationship. >.>

[@mr.anxiety7567]

STINKY JINKIES.

[@texas9871]

@@tyrannus1987 🤦🏿‍♂️😂

[@alexisnaranjo]

she's TRANSITIONING you fking Gender Nazi!!!!!! REeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEE

[@Bendakid]

I deadass thought Markiplier voiced her for that

[@chasingmavrx6797]

In other words…Velma is the perfect cartoon representation of Mindy Kalings entire personality

[@rayperez1310]

This guy said it best lol btw hope HBO and all of Warmermedia and Turner Broadcasting take this as a learning lesson to never give her any more time and space to make any shows or go best the creative team ever again because she lacks all things creative let alone comedy or talent

[@sickwiditthom]

a boring ass female?

[@VanFkingHalen]

So... none?

[@CapObv]

Well, yeah, it's a another woke self-insert

[@BaronVonBielski]

@@CapObvthe show isn’t even woke lmao, that’s not even close to the problem. but nice job bringing your moronic politic problems into it! The show just sucks, and isn’t funny whatsoever. Mindy also self inserts herself into everything she writes, she just can’t write. It’s not woke at all lmao, they are trying to be edgy. Naked children in the very first episode but you’re whining about being woke. Dear god it’s Like you purposely ignored any relevant criticism and went straight to woke.

[@rafaynoman1180]

The funny thing is Mindy Kaling recently came out and said that the show was made out of love for Scooby doo. Yeah she loved Scooby Doo so much that she got rid of him.

[@KhaosAdmiral]

Realistically, I think the issue came about because they couldn't think of any creative way to have the actual character of Scooby Doo work in context of the show.

[@jackbaxter2223]

I think it's mainly that they couldn't get the rights to Scooby. The owners of the rights, IIRC, did not want Scooby in the show.

[@zorgonvoir6896]

​@@jackbaxter2223Well that was one AMAZING life choice right there.

[@miguelpadeiro762]

@@KhaosAdmiral Yeah, an insufferable dog doesn't work nor does Velma absolutely shit on Scooby work So off with him it is

[@strawberrylotlizard]

Lol it's literally in the theme song they can't do it without scooby

[@SapienSafari]

That animated scene at the end absolutely KILLED me. I needed that laugh 🤣

[@TheGoIsWin21]

Whoever wrote the hashtag joke ended up accidentally making themselves sound like the very thing they were attempting to mock. Which I think is a very good way to define basically the whole show.

[@CrzndlSndr]

I haven't watched the show, but every review I've watched, none of the "jokes" they've shown come across as actual jokes. I'm reminded of the Simpsons episode where Homer gets a spot voice acting the new character on Itchy & Scratchy. There's all this hype and buildup, and then the reveal is his character is just a pathetic collection of dated buzzwords and catchphrases trying way too hard to be cool. The joke is how out of touch the character is. Everyone hates it. Every character on Velma feels like this only without the self realization of parody. They actually think it's good writing, not a parody of how bad bad writing can be

[@UncannyValleyVideos]

Admittedly I haven't seen the show either, but I can't get past the blatant laziness. For years people have been making jokes about Velma's sexuality, Fred being an asshole, Shaggy being a perceived pothead...the writers just perpetuate these annoying tropes while having the gall to claim them as their own.

[@TheGoIsWin21]

@@UncannyValleyVideos "lazy, uninspired, and unpleasant" seems like a pretty good summation of the tone of the entire script

[@grabble7605]

That's a big part of its awfulness. Its fans claim it's satire but even if we grant that (and I think it'd be generous to do so), it's either bad, obnoxious, far-right meme-warrior stuff or it doesn't do enough to say 'This is satire!' and comes across as the thing it mocks.

[@deltabeee55089]

@@UncannyValleyVideos I feel more like they just forced the sexuality part just for some “relatability” factor. I mean people that watch this show watch it because it’s like a spinoff of Scooby Doo right? Why take Scooby Doo and just change everything about the characters? Surely they know what nostalgia is

[@LuciditySleeping]

Velma is like the antithesis of puss in boots bc everyone before watching them is like “is it really that bad/good” and then comes out 2 hours later saying “OH ITS THAT BAD/GOOD”

[@lisahoshowsky4251]

I watched an interview of Salma Hayek talking about puss in boots before it came out and she was just gushing, and I was like, “poor boo they’re making you be so positive on this press tour about what I’m sure if going to be a trash movie.” But I was watching her and she seemed so genuine and enthusiastic, like she didn’t seem like she was forced to say this stuff, I got tentatively excited it might actually be good, and holy crow it actually was!!!!

[@alexmackrell1385]

I just watched puss in boots the last wish and HOLY MOLY WAS IT GREAT I had that exact reaction when watching it

[@Bitholeous]

puss in boots is so goddamn good

[@tjswanson7577]

Mindy casting herself as Velma is actually kinda wild, even assuming narcissism or the ego of past success. "The Quirky Girl" casting themselves as Velma feel like "That Comic Book Guy" casting themselves as Batman. You have REALLY got to think you're the hottest thing around if you believe you could pull it off.

[@chimedemon]

To be fair it’s pretty normal for creators in animation to cast themselves in the lead roles- like Gravity Falls, Family Guy or Rick and Morty… however in this case it is a lil weird (Edit: actually y’all are right, it’s not the same. Very weird self inserting)

[@tjswanson7577]

@@chimedemon I'd argue the major difference is that those are all their creations, where Velma had all this goodwill and pop culture cache, and it seems Mindy just said "Ah yes, *I* am the perfect person to voice this character widely loved!"

[@elijahherstal776]

@@chimedemon remember the guy that self-inserted himself into the Powerpuff girls? It's... it's a bit creepy. Like, 'call the authorities if you see this guy near kids' creepy.

[@elijahherstal776]

@@InsertUsernameHere_a you'd be shocked at how many "people" in the entertainment industry have this odd thing for little children.

[@deletedwaffles]

If I were the quirky girl I'd cast myself as Daphne.

[@RobKaiser_SQuest]

The polite clapping at "they're gay" took me out 🤣

[@bigbeefytoaster]

Obsessed how every single "review" of the show says "art style, phenomenal. Love you. You deserve the world." And then immediately to "I hate this show. It sucks. You deserve torture."

[@HeShoeTooBig]

its the classic case of hiring really great artists and under paying them. and hiring braindead writers they probably found on tumblr or twitter

[@theincrediblefella7984]

@@HeShoeTooBig the artstyle looks like shit though, what are you talking about?

[@sadmoonbun]

it's really sad that the animation was done so well but the writing doesn't match that effort

[@nathanwilson4814]

There's nothing good about the art style. What are you talking to children?

[@nathanwilson4814]

@@HeShoeTooBig your brain is to small for your body.

[@RogueFox2185]

Calling it bad is an understatement, it is an abomination that is Scooby-Doo in name only. (Or to be accurate, as related to the franchise as a unwanted Karen stepmother in her late 40’s)

[@Bodacious_Crustacious]

I would gladly worship Scrappy Doo for the rest of my life if it meant the Velma Show stops existing.

[@NixonsHead]

SDINO

[@NixonsHead]

They probably gonna introduce scooby in the 2nd season, I dread to think what kind of woke horrors they plan to do to him.

[@sebastiancoar1991]

Nixon's Head. *Scoobythulhu rears its ugly head*

[@burlyheads]

They don't have the rights to use Scooby or Shaggy. Some weird copyright stuff. Also why Scooby-Doo isn't in the title

[@hdofu]

"At the end of the day, your opinion doesn't matter" Mindy took this phrase to heart when thinking of the audience.

[@msthecommentator2863]

"Am I really so out of touch?.....No, this is obviously the work of racists and review bombing." Like seriously, how in denial can you get?

[@hdofu]

@@msthecommentator2863 Cleopatra’s ghost has repeatedly told her to get out of it.

[@jacob9538]

8:05 It's like a bully who makes fun of you then tries to sell you drugs...which velma also does.

[@VIP-ry6vv]

The most level headed, meta-edited, comedy review this show never deserved.

[@fatemakhan3843]

Mindy grew up with rich parents, never worked a day job & was handed a Hollywood job through her parents contracts & influences. So when she wrote Fred as a spoiled rich kid with no soul. Yeah i can definitely see she's really writing herself. This is what we in the business call "The Projection" & a classic Freudian Slip.

[@michaelslowmin]

I mean that's most people in Hollywood tbh. If you look into celebrities backgrounds, you'll find these people are all related or go way back generations in some way. They're our version of royals, lord's, and ladies. However, many of them are talented and not hack like this.

[@shadowdroid776]

I literally saw this exact comment, word for word, on a different video. You just copy+pasted.

[@aliceinchainz]

@@michaelslowmin yep, perfectly said. hollywood thrives off nepotism, only very few are lucky enough to get a career within the industry without it.

[@jazerasor1455]

@@shadowdroid776 Kinda shitty, still a good comment tho, does anyone really care about the validation one receives from youtube comments?

[@themudpit621]

@@jazerasor1455 That's a fantastic point, so true. Some insight you got there. Now tell me, how do you feel?

[@chewchewonglass]

I feel so bad for Fred and Velma's friendship they've had in previous series, he and Velma were two of the most resourceful in the group.

[@chillcursed]

Velma was definitely the MVP of the group, while Fred always came up with great assist's

[@PerpleX_Plays]

In What's new Scooby Doo, Daphne was pretty resourceful too. She made a car battery out of a water bottle, a hairpin, and a double A battery in the Desert Race episode

[@rinshotin2521]

I like your username and pfp, it's really cute!

[@chewchewonglass]

@@chillcursed They were a great team, the whole group brought something to the table in their own way too.

[@chewchewonglass]

@@PerpleX_Plays Oh for sure, and in the OG Scooby Doo everyone still has their quirks. Velma notices things others may overlook, Fred makes traps and helps with the strats, Daphne would accidentally fall into traps the baddies made which gave more clues while Shaggy and Scooby had insane luck.

[@CGR89]

I never thought I’d miss when adult cartoons were “hey it’s like your kid cartoons but we say fuck now! Also sex?!?!? Really graphic violence?!?!?”. Now it’s just “HEY SUPER WACKY RANDOOOOOM now here’s some propaganda”.

[@crushycrawfishy1765]

what propaganda? you're not one of those "THE MESSAGE" people are you?

[@boomerkobold3943]

@@crushycrawfishy1765he’s right though.

[@angel_of_rust]

i guess you're gonna LOVE Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss. and yes “hey it’s like your kid cartoons but we say fuck now! Also sex?!?!? Really graphic violence?!?!?” is gonna be as bad as it gets with those shows.

[@_Kuma_]

@@angel_of_rustugh, those shows are insufferable

[@MikeyD-mr1vg]

I wanna hear your voice in some random show one day and your character steals all the attention from the MC the emotion you are able to verbally preform is amazing.

[@ozyisgoated]

Convey* not perform

[@zkatt3238]

MeatCanyon should voice a random character on Smiling Friends

[@coneysama2397]

@@ozyisgoated ok word police. Let’s get down off the high horse and come back to reality for a minute.

[@alifram117]

Just like Prozd lol

[@akiakichan]

Adding onto how Velma is a lot like Rick Sanchez in this show, I think a big reason why characters who are made to act like Rick so often fail is because the show they’re in fails to recognize their actions as wrong. These characters will do things that are very much in line with things Rick would, but the difference is that only Rick’s actions are called out and portrayed as bad, and that makes the other Rick-inspired character look tone deaf.

[@notmything6629]

Rick and his creator are cancelled.... nobody want to see it anymore when the original voice actors episodes are wrapped

[@JimmyTwoTimesGTPx2]

@@notmything6629 I was just watching it so speak for yourself, and while the accusations and evidence about Justin Roiland being a POS are damning, it doesn’t mean I don’t still love the seasons we will have with him for years to come. And him being fired isn’t the end of the show, because Dan Harmon the co-creator is still on-board and going to continue it with a re-cast.

[@maninblack3410]

@@notmything6629 tbh all this is making me interested in watching future episodes and I’m someone who dropped it after season 2. There’s just something so interesting about a channel having enough faith in a show to keep going after firing such a seemingly huge core piece of that show. I’ve seen a lot of people saying that Justin hasn’t even been in the writer’s room for some time (which, again, just sounds like a positive) so it makes sense that adult swim could think they could keep going, but it’s still interesting to me.

[@JimmyTwoTimesGTPx2]

@@maninblack3410 Me too, wonder if Sean Kelly from Tiktok will get the role…also if I can enjoy Gary Glitter Rock & Roll pt 2 knowing that GG is a pedophile piece of trash, I think Rick and Morty is not that big of deal to still love the past 6 seasons of, haven’t watched S6 yet but I loved S5

[@almightylordsatan475]

@@JimmyTwoTimesGTPx2 I haven't seen or heard of any evidence. The only thing I get when I search for his name is that he's been fired.

[@Rocksteady77x]

The fact that it’s been renewed for a second season is scarier to me than any horror that I’ve seen in the past decade.

[@NixonsHead]

They probably gonna introduce scooby in the 2nd season, I dread to think what kind of woke horrors they plan to do to him.

[@viscountrainbows2857]

I really can't believe how these shows are ramrodding in a second season when the first season is barely even in infancy. They truly have no molecule of knowledge in regard to pacing, comedic or commercially. It is already shaping up to be a failure, but they still are willing to sink in a few million to make this the 2D rival to Batwoman.

[@mry_420]

@@NixonsHead OH GOD PLEASE NO PLEASEE SPARE SCOOBY FROM THIS HELL OF A SHOW

[@mystoxxiide9043]

@@NixonsHead apparently scooby is already in the show, but they genderbent and humanised him into a female love interest for shaggy 🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@mystoxxiide9043]

i mean “”””norville””””

[@7Elwaybronco]

That peak behind Rick to see that suffering or see Morty grasp with tough concepts, is what makes it so good.

[@evilcaptainred]

It breaks my heart that those artists did so well with the WORST scripts. Manoman, I wish these talented artist/ animators a profitable future despite being tied to this trash show

[@autodidact7127]

Well then stop inserting a bunch of politics and changing fucking stories into bullshit inclusive trash. Then you won't have these issues.

[@c.fyffe0]

The animators animated cp in the show. I hope they seek hell not further employment

[@adamlane6453]

@@c.fyffe0 what

[@djsnopel9594]

@@adamlane6453 There's some shower fight scene where all the characters are covered with bubbles anime-style

[@peterondesign]

Why don’t they hold writing to the same fucking standard they hold production/animation?!

[@VinsDwelling]

You know Hunter is not bullshitting when he got the tony stark looking shades on

[@dstock9855]

he reminds me more of man cow

[@TheHmmer4]

Who's Hunter?

[@mydrillasanjay5397]

@@TheHmmer4 meat man

[@Bigboibeven]

That animation at the end is terrifying, I love it

[@kadewiedeman3127]

If I don't almost puke when watching meatcanyon animations, I'm not watching meatcanyon animations right.

[@amjh4lah809]

100th like. And yes. I agree 👍🏻

[@MyDancingShoes]

THANK YOU for commenting on the voice acting, every one of Mindy's lines is the same emotion and it drives me insane

[@sgtstr3am785]

I genuinely feel bad for the artists because I wouldn't even want this stain on a resume even though it is visually appealing.

[@theincrediblefella7984]

it's not even visually appealing. The artstyle alone is what initially clued me into the fact that it would suck.

[@sgtstr3am785]

@@theincrediblefella7984 "No Scooby Doo" the game was rigged from the start

[@jhall6162]

😰

[@1WonderingApe]

@@theincrediblefella7984 eh the art is pretty cool it's just the show is bad

[@muntu1221]

@@theincrediblefella7984 Yeah, the "art style" is what made you think that

[@LoveHandle4890]

I would say to make a horror short about it, but it’s already horrifying enough.

[@gucciguy3408]

God seen a clip of episode 3 and geez Velma is scary with her face.

[@streetrat48]

I guess you didn't finish the video lmao

[@heckingepicgamer]

but he kind of did

[@unfairbasss1186]

Wdym she's black that's mean she say the n word

[@lalakuma9]

Too late he already did

[@GhostxBiscuits]

Personally, I think it’s because Velma plays Mindy’s actual personality. Just insufferable and annoying.

[@hmarema6]

The editing in this video, specifically the rapid meme jump cuts, are on point! I died laughing and replayed so many times. 🤣

[@babysealsareyummy]

If HBO actually put Meat’s scene in the show, it unironically would’ve carried the whole thing on its back.

[@IamSpacedad]

The artists and animators did an amazing job. It wasn't their fault the script and the showrunner's vision was so meanspirited.

[@uhigldasdtyuiosagjk]

i think the art on its own is great. but, the theme doesn't feel scooby doo very much

[@Voidnessss]

It was half there fault for actually animating this shit

[@uhigldasdtyuiosagjk]

@@Voidnessss lol

[@ifif5168]

​@@Voidnessss a paycheck is a paycheck

[@redflame300]

​@@ifif5168and Arby's beef is Arby's beef tbh

[@inanimatesum4945]

“Its like they tried really hard to make Velma unlikable.” *Velma is Mindy’s self insert* Well, guess it is very reflective of real life, especially with people discovering how vial she is.

[@deadalpeca8099]

Yup. Vial like a small stinky glass bottle

[@rodmullen64]

​@@deadalpeca8099guess you could say her philter is no good

[@christophersanders3252]

For you improper use of the word vial, I demand you Decant!

[@benbacon7654]

Is that vial really that vile?

[@Dukers2300]

My-oles of vye-holes

[@demareewheeler639]

12:49 that annihilated me 🤣🤣🤣 Along with the "WAIT HOLD ON" and I love the complete lack of attempt to make her have a higher pitched voice. Just well done

[@formerpotusboejiden]

Your scene seems 100 times better than the entire show lmao 😂

[@HeyHeyNingenSucker]

ON GOD.

[@R3TROSKULL]

FR FR ON GOD HOMIE WE IN THE STREETS DOG FRFR NO CAP HOMIE

[@John-Doe-Yo]

@@R3TROSKULL uhhh 🤨

[@sharpcheddar172]

Thought that one line would be "we're a great pair, now let me fondle that great pair."

[@yourdad1045]

Is the taste of that stinky jinkiey

[@Mooshkajoe]

This is the most level-headed and accurate review for this show I've ever heard.

[@aliway4136]

Have you seen it?

[@Mooshkajoe]

@@aliway4136 Yes. I didn't like it.

[@Sir_Bucket]

@@aliway4136 when the trailer is that bad, you don't need to watch the show to know how shit it's going to be

[@spunkyspaz]

@@Sir_Bucket Exactly. I watched the trailer and about 2 minutes of the show, I don't know why I even started doing that after seeing the trailer, I knew it was bad already, just curious I guess. But I said to myself "Why am I watching this?" And I stopped.

[@noteleks_]

I never knew the mind behind meatcanyon could be such a chill guy. Subscribed

[@hoIl0w]

Watch Meatlocker! Papa Meat is the big homie

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

Ong.

[@brianw8834]

That "chill dude" started a bail fund for Antifa murderers.

[@huntersigler9895]

Watch his stuff from before he got popular and pigeonholed himself into edgy horror content. He used to be wayyyy funnier.

[@kowan100]

Same!

[@Scudboy17]

Velma sucks because they took a beloved franchise and made illogical changes to the characters, removing everything that made the characters likeable or relatable, the story and humor fall flat and are just plain bad. I don't care who wrote it, voiced, produced, or promoted it. It's just a bad show.

[@whiteobama3032]

The show failed because it was a comedy show with terrible jokes. No normal well adjusted adult claims velma is some beloved character, and no one cares about scooby doo lore..

[@Akiraspin]

The irony of Mindy, oh sorry I mean Velma shitting on Fred for being a spoiled rich kid is that Mindy literally had everything handed to her in life. That's why she acts the way she does.

[@sarcasticsuperjerk18]

Ehhh I wouldn't go that far. We can't assume Mindy's had no hardships whatsoever, maybe the way she acts is a result of them. I don't think attacking the creator in a way beyond how much of an asshole they are is right imo

[@bigbadbang18]

@@sarcasticsuperjerk18 Her father is an architect and her mother was an OB/GYN and Mindy graduated from a private school in Cambridge, Massachusetts. That's pretty upper class just from briefly scanning her Wiki

[@deathryche]

@@sarcasticsuperjerk18 trying to simp for a trash human and failing.

[@thinsketchy]

@@deathryche lmao dude says something reasonable and gets called a simp. On the internet there’s no room for middle ground. Only extreme this or extreme that

[@deathryche]

@Thin Sketchy you can choose to believe that my comment was overly exaggerated and not telling, but then you play right into your own fallacy of only extremes. Including the dude you decided to jump in and defend without contributing to the overall conversation. Mine wasn't a troll or an attempt to generalize the argument, he made definitive statements about being unsure and wanting others to withhold their opinions of her and the show based on his ignorance. That's something that needs to be addressed, shamed, condemned, etc. Tl;dr: you didn't read the "wall of text" because you're pathetic excuse of an education ended before you turned 10.

[@iraqifoodcart8447]

YES. YES IT IS. IT REALLY IS THAT BAD Edit: Damn, wasn't expecting this many likes.

[@pcportversion]

No at all dude. *It's more worse than that.*

[@Radical576]

@@pcportversionPhew, I thought you were gonna be that 1% who said it was good 😮‍💨

[@bb2fiddler]

meh I've seen worse

[@animaxtian789]

It's not bad, it's mediocre at worst. I don't get the hate.

[@traphimawari7760]

@@pcportversion you got me on the first half ngl 😂

[@Ultimathy]

Papa Meat really understands how to make a great story and getting the audience engaged.

[@Better_callMe]

The joke about adults who still watch cartoons, is like when the kickstarter campaign for Mighty No. 9 made fun of the people playing his game.

[@pacocuhh]

Your one scene is funnier than the whole show in its entirety 😂

[@GuitarSlayer136]

Idk I laughed harder at the highschool girl cry-singing the trashy club song at her friends funeral than I did Meatcanyon doing more or less the same bit hes done since he joined youtube. Not to throw shade, just being honest. It doesn't make Velma good but Im tired of all these sheep in the comments who clearly didn't watch the show just gargling Hunters balls like theres a prize inside.

[@GuitarSlayer136]

Idk I laughed harder at the highschool girl cry-singing the trashy club song at her friends funeral than I did Meatcanyon doing more or less the same bit hes done since he joined youtube. Not to throw shade, just being honest. It doesn't make Velma good but Im tired of all these sheep in the comments who clearly didn't watch the show just gargling Hunters balls like theres a prize inside.

[@FrancisCastiglione]

@@GuitarSlayer136 That's the wrong figure of speech. I think you meant to use 'dick', considering there's actually something inside if you try hard enough. Balls don't really do anything, they're just there.

[@FrancisCastiglione]

@@GuitarSlayer136 Also you actually laughed? Well, guess you just have a more ticklish funny bone than the rest of us. Good for you.

[@fredericksaxton9782]

@Kojin That sounds like a generalization. He literally said "if you like the show like the show, don't let the mob mentality consume you" or does what he actually said not matter??

[@fobo3361]

There's no fuckin way meatcannon actually submitted that animations script to hbo, just imagine being the employee who recommended him after being a fan of his work and like fighting for the higher ups to contact him and give him a go just to get that back

[@jorgedeanoperez2997]

I think that was a joke

[@jonathanlupas8797]

@@jorgedeanoperez2997 I was dying when I got to that part of the video, I don't know why I was expecting an actual scene from the Velma show 💀💀

[@HCG]

No shit genius

[@AndyNocturne]

Imagine if he did 😂 Guess we'll never really know, but it's hilarious to think of him cackling, laughing to tears as he cooked this up for them as a giant middle finger if they really did ask him

[@anthonyruiz1493]

Went over your head huh?

[@thelouisfanclub]

The “arbys beef and cheddar” bit has stuck in my mind for a week

[@thatoneweirdfella]

Shaggy has always been named norville, but this norville ain't ever gonna be a shaggy

[@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat]

I'd say if they were good writers they'dve planned a turn at some point, to show his origin. But they weren't good writers.

[@Jayplayzmaybe]

they even made a scooby doo show without scooby

[@Moekaneko]

​@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat they should've had him say "it wasn't me" a bunch then they nickname him shaggy

[@Moekaneko]

​@@Jayplayzmaybe I mean it exists and can make sense if it's them before shaggy gets scooby but it does make it harder to capture fans and have humour similar to old scooby doo

[@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat]

@@Moekaneko A reference in 2024 to a B-list early 1990's hip hop one-hit-wonder is so bad I think it actually fits perfectly in this awful TV show.

[@Sharkaiju]

Her office scripts writing were probably good because it got checked by real executive that wanted as much of an audience as they could get. Now she’s just opinionated and cast out those who think differently or just simply have questions.

[@eddie3258]

her office scripts were prob good because they had the original as source material to use

[@kordiankrecisz5298]

@@eddie3258 it's not the case, only the first season of the office US is based on the UK version. And Mindys episodes are later down the road i think

[@dawn_oh420]

do you actually think that she wrote this show by herself

[@toxikspeaks3523]

papa meat proving hes a way better voice actor than half these people on these shows 11:11

[@ADballa28]

Half? You mean all?

[@paoloantoniobaladad5895]

His range is 🔥

[@zsasz21]

I feel like the hands as a scale at the end was the cherry on top

[@cromp3361]

I think you mean 12:58

[@michaeld7945]

the dude does make a living of voice acting some of the most emotional/disturbing animations out there. definitely need talent to do that.

[@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat]

This is what happens when people are afraid to say "I don't think that will work" because of social pressure.

[@crazyyenii]

Your animated style is amazing, and somehow your editing and comedy shine even in nonanimated videos. Seriously props for being just funny. Editing skills top tier

[@m6isme]

This was edited by another person

[@AngryLittleAmericansCartoons]

I find it funny how a few years back, people HATED "BE Cool, Scooby Doo" for its art style. Now it's getting good recognition because of Velma

[@MrDucklangTech]

"Perhaps i treated you too harshly"

[@zedespina3766]

be cool scooby doo is funny, i think people only dont like it cause of the artstyle

[@artemisfowl7332]

The wiring is decent but the art style is still absolutely awful it's like if family guy and Scooby doo art styles had an ugly baby

[@gallibon1319]

At _least_ it knew how to be Scooby-Doo. Velma doesn't.

[@alphabetsoup6837]

I love MeatCanyon's tiny lesson in voice acting

[@Emuney12]

Velma is now canceled by Max to the surprise of no one.

[@MercerSin]

Whenever you talk, you sound like such a wholesome person. It’s a unique juxtaposition to the absolute nightmare fuel that is your other channel

[@Randomyoutuber-4831]

The thing about artists is that the ones who make the most grotesque and disturbing content tend to be the nicest, most wholesome people.

[@NickCageDrippp]

@@Randomyoutuber-4831 n the people who make the most wholesome content usually the ones who are fucked up lol

[@MercerSin]

@@NickCageDrippp not always, but it is definitely less surprising if/when it comes out

[@eleruces7722]

​@@Randomyoutuber-4831 Junji Ito and Shindo L are good examples of this

[@grabble7605]

David Lynch would appreciate that.

[@jeanthemachine0]

"Is Velma That Bad?" I cannot stress this enough, *She-Hulk* is more tolerable than Velma itself. So yes, *it is really that bad*

[@r.c8756]

I’ve heard people also compare Velma to Daria. But Velma has several key differences that really change everything. For starters, unlike Velma, Daria was a real outsider and going against the flow, not just bitching about everything as a character trait. She had almost no friends at all, and had very little self-comfidence. Also even though she could be cynical, she rarely attacked people to their face and especially not based on modern progressist moralist trends, she only called out genuine stupidity of her peers and society as a whole. And last but not least, she occasionally was able to question herself instead of being an ass constantly. She felt relatable because she hated the growing stupidity of the world and everything that’s wrong with society, she wasn’t just being a smartass out of pure egotism.

[@A-Duck]

The way Daria communicated her views was also charmingly well written. When she expressed an observation or criticism, it was almost always through a sarcastic witticism, the idea was written out in a banter/joke like format that actually had descriptive value. Her commentary would often then be responded to, opening up for further exploration in a back and forth. From what little of Velma I've seen, her character (and the shows writing in general) doesn't do that. She pontificates in a very shallow manner, with no nuance or depth to speak of. Like when someone name drops a buzzword in place of actually communicating the meat of the idea. This is a common thing in modern lowbrow political discourse, where it's easier to fling labels and buzzwords than actually describe and argue. In a word, Velma is pretentious. Daria is not.

[@gailghoul5629]

nicely put

[@kingbeauregard]

Daria wasn't mean to be mean; she was frustrated by a world that could be so much better, and she even helped people once in a while, especially if she felt they were getting a raw deal. I'm not saying that Daria was a flawless character - in fact flaws were a big thing about her - but she had more than her share of good traits too, to balance out the more off-putting ones. It's always a good thing if a show's lead is likeable, but even if they're not, it's sufficient to be relatable. Daria wasn't always easy to like, but you could at least see how she turned out as she did.

[@KhaosAdmiral]

Furthermore, Unlike Velma's supporting cast, Daria's Supporting cast despite falling into well worn archetypes actually have a good deal of depth to them like for example take Daria's sister Quinn, now on the surface Quinn may be your standard shallow dumb popular girl but we are shown that she is actually pretty intelligent and really only acts the way she does because she's really insecure for most of the series that being popular is the only thing she's good at and actively sabotages herself in order to fit in with people like Staci. Kevin Thompson may be the idiot jock and star quarterback, but he's ultimately a pretty chill guy. And Jodie Landon's entire character is one of the most nuanced and fascinating deconstructions of the whole Token minority characters.

[@crazysilly2914]

Who the HECK is this ‘Daria’ person that I keep hearing about in every comment section of a Velma video?!?!?

[@FingerMuscles]

Ide like to take a moment to compliment Jonno here. Meat Canyon's humor is already hilarious to me, but Jonno's editing just amplifies it x10

[@madam-mint]

Agreed

[@kalenwilliams5210]

Meat is actually a pretty good voice actor 😂 it makes his shorts a step above the rest

[@noughtic8204]

Animation had me laughing like 1000000x more than the actual show lmao

[@nigmatullina2930]

Probably because you laughed once opposed to not at all 😂

[@AdamSmith-ml4ji]

So you only laughed once ? At how much it sucked ?

[@digitalcamaro9708]

I love that the edits come out of nowhere. 6:37 genuinely triggered some ptsd.

[@TheLongDon]

Remember, 1000000x 0 is still 0. It made me laugh probably 10 additional times over the show

[@connorlowry9269]

“Stinky jinkies” has to be one of the funniest things I’ve ever heard 😂

[@LaFonteCheVi]

Meat canyon is legit a damn good voice actor

[@GamerConnoisseurRei]

"I bet your bean is bigger than Scooby Snacks" i have never laugh this hard in my entire life 🤣

[@connerschorr5511]

@you will see it No I won't

[@Kanyon85]

The fact that the concept of Scooby snacks, and even Scooby himself don't even exist in the universe yet, lol.

[@PTSD_Guts]

I felt more connection with the filthy protagonist of your own works than I do with any human characters from this show so far

[@SkeleTre]

10:50 Hitting us unexpectedly with that brief "Never Meant" intro. Shisa, Paps.

[@tylerkahler5791]

The editing is top notch on this video. 9:52 killed me, props to whoever is your editor.

[@Bllldbzwoxndi]

your two minute Velma skit was funnier than the whole season one of the show 😂 HBO refused to use this video (after requesting it), when in reality, they should have hired MeatC to write the whole thing, it would've been definitely much more successful 💀

[@chicubs88]

This show reminded me of the 30 Rock episode where Liz Lemon is nervous about going to a high school re-union because she was awkward and got bullied in high school...only for her to learn when she shows up that everyone was actually afraid of her because of all the mean things she said to them. "Velma," or Mindy Kaling really, come across as someone who thinks that because they had/have anxieties and weren't/aren't the Prom Queen, somehow they are automatically the protagonist and everything they say and do should be celebrated.

[@Meeeooowwwrrr]

Lmaooooo 13:29 "WAIT!!! BU- BUT THE PANIC ATTACKS!!!!!!!!!!"

[@kirbovibes7571]

your animated Velma portion of this episode has me in tears 😭😭😭 that was better than the entire series

[@Mecha_Neko]

Velma is the type of show to make an episode about a ghostly possession plot, and turn it into being about how the ghost is white and didn't ask consent first.

[@OhFrittata]

It still blows me away that people still don’t know that Shaggy’s real name has always been Norville.

[@micahcook2408]

Same lmao this needs to be a higher comment Lmfao

[@Phoebe5448]

Except Velma Norville is as far away from actual Norville as you can get.

[@gwenlop9512]

I could pirate and illegally download Velma from HBO, and I’d still want a rebate, refund, and apology from Warner Bros. Discovery.

[@Vollce]

Nick's editing went off the rails in this one. I love it.

[@johnanthony_909]

Dude. Your clip of Velma back at Daphne's house had me laughing so fuckin hard 🤣

[@JD-iu6rv]

Your Velma scene would’ve brought the show from a 1 to a 5

[@Dukebluethemad]

Out of 10 maybe. And only for that episode.

[@JD-iu6rv]

@@Dukebluethemad oh yes of course out of 10

[@Astrovite]

When I realized the voice actress for Daphne was the Mom from "Fresh off the boat" (Constance Wu), I couldn't see Daphne as a young teen anymore. Don't get me wrong, Constance does amazing in everything she's in, it's just like hearing that voice be a Mother to 3 children prior to realizing it was her was kind of mind blowing.

[@yourenotthatguy7051]

Papa makes a better cartoon that runs for at least 2 min and gets more love than Velma has in 3 episodes

[@invaderperidot]

12:57 "Bet you're wondering if I have an Arby's beef and cheddar between my legs." That's so fucking foul lmao never change Papa Hunter.

[@DIN_NER]

"Stinky Jinkies" LMFAO that killed me

[@tavinprice2310]

If you want a more mature Scooby Doo show to cleanse your pallet, I recommend Scooby Doo Mystery Inc

[@Phoebe5448]

Or Robot Chicken Scooby Doo.

[@Retro-71990]

the skit at 12:10 is better than the actual freaking show, good work.

[@prdarlin]

This scene is now canon in the Velma show

[@viscountrainbows2857]

The fact that Kelly was a great Love To Hate Character as a side character, but then Mindy tries to bring that same energy to being the Protagonist, is mighty bold.

[@alexcoolbean]

“I think the only medicine is a taste of that Stinky jinkies ya know what I mean” this short meatcanyon animation is unhinged and im all for it

[@stephenandrew6087]

They could've saved the show by tackling the harshest crimes out there, like a ghost that commits hate crimes, or a werewolf who's a serial sexual assaulter, but *shocker* it's really the creepy guy who's local version of Radio Shack went under and he swore vengeance for years at the local City Council. Shaggy knew this was coming and tried to warn the group for years but they'd replaced him with Norbert or whatever tf.

[@wanttoseea3892]

6:23 the music with the old lady picture has kept me sitting and laughing at my computer for the last 30 minutes. Thank you Papi Meats.

[@darkwoods1954]

Yes. Yes it is. Mystery Incorporated is a great modern update of Scooby Doo with ongoing story arcs and decent character development. That show deserves all the attention Velma is getting.

[@DXXFUS]

Love how he’s so real and in depth with his criticism.

[@jamesb1988]

He never completely shits on anything, his criticism is always constructive. Hunter's a good dude at heart.

[@Swimmingpoole1]

This should be a 0:01 sec video that just says “yes”

[@gunnarhendsbee1199]

The editing in this video is so well done my word.

[@oldlavygenes]

The constant camera movement makes me a little sick

[@shogunpug4071]

The same editor for Twomad

[@PerfectPencil]

11:00 This right here kids. Don't forget Papa is a legit talented voice actor.