Isabel Wilkerson: Killing of Tyre Nichols is about caste, not race

MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell is joined by Isabel Wilkerson, the author of The New York Times #1 bestseller "Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents," to discuss how the themes she lays out regarding America's caste system, can apply to several recent events in American history, including the fatal police beating of Tyre Nichols.
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[@ThyEndOfHeartAche]

It's about meeting quotas! The mayor was even touting how the Scorpion Unit arrested over 400 people in a short time...they didnt ever wonder how that was possible of if these people were innocent....they took the cops word and incarcerated majority black people The mayor and police chief also needs to be held accountable!

[@ThyEndOfHeartAche]

@Sara Mill It's not racism like the liberals want people to believe. It's about meeting quotas by these black police officers. It didn't matter if they incarcerated innocent people or not. They had the power to make false narratives and make excuses such as they feared for their lives or that the suspect tried to grab their guns. These cops were corrupt and got away with so much and thought they can keep doing it. Its not racism... its evil corrupt cops!

[@countryboy6767]

its about black lives havent mattered since the formation of the country and all races play off of that including blk

[@ShannonJacobs0]

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[@huwcarr]

This is wonderful. I am so glad to hear this coming to the forefront of the discussion, at last.

[@kateuhler7803]

Outstanding👏👏👏. I WILL be buying this book.

[@dheer33]

You are a woke.

[@shallupe5317]

Lawrence is such a caring, empathetic & intelligent man-appreciate this program...

[@melanatedone4894]

Unfortunately we have become Numb to the Brutality.

[@mlynne-uc9py]

*******based on the provided statement from the author ••• Isabel Wilkerson when she used the Tyre Nichols tragedy as an example of how a caste system was already developed between African•Americans-Black People reminded me of the severe division that took place between African slaves in the Colonial American 🇺🇸 times (as early as the 16th century) ••• not only African families were divided during the slave auction in this new world (Colonial America 🇺🇸) but they were divided even further into two types of slaves (i.e. field workers vs. house workers who served + was severely programmed by the slave owners to think lesser of the field workers)*****the caste concept the author described in the portion of the interview dug open this critical piece of African•American-Black History**** An American 🇺🇸 History that CANNOT BE forgotten + ignored*******

[@veneno6388]

Wow. Very informative

[@renzo6490]

Start by defining “caste”. All this verbiage….and no one clear idea comes through.

[@icu4life240]

Speak for yourself plenty of people are clear on the Cast system what it does and how it effects black and brown people globally.

[@renzo6490]

@@icu4life240 - I WAS speaking for myself. What did you think I was doing?? My point was that I DON"T understand the caste system and I want to be enlightened. You might have helped instead of ranting.

[@royharper2003]

@@renzo6490 You can google it but it is BS in this case, they just trying to draw attention away from the fact the cops were black.

[@abby-usivemonopoly5529]

*_Caste, in white-nationalist societies, is PRIMARILY dictated by race._*

[@CMCAdvanced]

Hey remember when everyone was making this about race because the media ALWAYS makes it about race? Where's that story?

[@marianagabel8361]

100% true.

[@IceQeen1011]

In her book she says casteism came from Hinduism when the word caste is not even an Indian term - it is portugese and those guys had a concept of 'blood purity' (similar to racial purity of black people where even an ounce of black blood made you black). The british census and subsequent criminal tribes act solidified people's station in life, solidified their community barriers which had been loose before and criminalized martial communities. The lingering effects last till today yet she says it is based in Hindu scriptures (wanton mistranslations). Stop essentializing people to their lowest denominator. I am American first and a woman second before ANY of my other identities.

[@abby-usivemonopoly5529]

Needing to be told over and over again, because you "keep forgetting," is not okay. Asking the nice black lady to singlehandedly compensate for cradle-to-grave white-nationalist hate-propaganda, is not okay, either.

[@Dwade32]

Wilkerson's understanding of Indian history is woeful.

[@proudliberal605]

Finally figuring it out. When did civil rights make the most advances? When it was aligned with workers' rights. Separate the two and they both fail miserably. Listen up "Identity politics" advocates. You can't have social justice without economic justice. When you allowed the oligarchs to separate the two: that is the precise moment that "culture wars" became the dominant political noise. You can't advance civil rights at the expense of worker's rights, no matter how much the oligarchs promise you. Meanwhile, quietly in the background of the loud culture war, class warfare is being waged upon workers and it has proven to be so successful, that the oligarchs are even tapping their toe in the water about "sunsetting" Social Security. Some advice: Make this about class warfare, instead of race/gender/sexual orientation warfare, and you might just eventually see Democratic super majorities in the legislature again. You know, like what we enjoyed during the last vestiges of FDR's "New Deal. A time when Democratic politics were strong enough for civil rights to advance. When LBJ's "Great Society" had solid political traction. I hope the lesson was learned. Never advance your identity "cause" at the expense of the working class. You will only chase workers into the arms of FOX propaganda. There is a reason why the Democrats are failing at politically destroying a GOP that sympathizes with coup plotters, is historically unethical, and grossly incompetent.

[@IceQeen1011]

Do you know why they won't? Because NONE of them are actual activists. They are here to make money and this is a topic people pay top dollar to hear about

[@brainwashed2586]

This been happening since I can remember

[@brainwashed2586]

Absolutely

[@abby-usivemonopoly5529]

The fact that race is a social construct, neither asserts, nor implies, that the targeting of Tyre was "not about race."

[@shmobiden6860]

it was about a baby momma.

[@batgurrl]

Great in person interview Lawrence. Interesting take on this situation, that it’s about Caste, not race. Those cops were all black

[@ermac6466]

Oooh so were like india or dominican , i didnt realize we had a caste system.

[@abby-usivemonopoly5529]

It's not okay that Lawrence O'Donnell is acting like he's hearing this for the first time. It's _also_ not okay that he's (explicitly) normalizing the act of persistently _"forgetting"_ this plainly obvious fact. How many times, in how many synonymous phrases, across how many decades & centuries, does it need to be restated? These concepts were not only being discussed 50 years ago, but the discussion was more advanced than it currently is. I have no patience left for people who act like progress is inevitable, and that baby-steps are tolerable.

[@abby-usivemonopoly5529]

Maleducation and antisocial-programming affects *_everyone_* who is raised in a white-nationalist society. Obviously. This is not a difficult concept.

[@abby-usivemonopoly5529]

The fact that there are nonwhite people who serve white-Christian-nationalism, doesn't change what white-Christian-nationalism is. This isn't a difficult concept. People who "don't get it" are _trying hard,_ not to get it.

[@bryan805]

Fun fact: the killing of George Floyd wasn’t about race either. Which is why Derek Chauvin was never charged for a hate crime.

[@spectral-nuisance]

fun fact: 'brian' is a known misinformation troll

[@ggelsrinc]

Obviously, decisions to charge someone for a crime are based on logic you lack, or you would have never made that statement.

[@rick_222]

@@spectral-nuisance what is misinformation for saying it wasn't about race?

[@Kermit_T_Frog]

@@rick_222 Not misinformation as much as mangled logic. And speaking of mangled logic, how does misleading information excuse bryan of spreading misinformation?

[@mikusoxlongius]

Floyd OD'd on Fent

[@lenblack1462]

True.

[@axelfoley1406]

It was a targeted attack. Start holding BLACK people accountable for THEIR own actions.

[@suezcontours6653]

I laughed at that video. The irony.

[@icu4life240]

It's sad that we are the majority when it comes to being targeted.

[@icu4life240]

@Suez Contours Why what was funny about it.

[@thomasdequincey5811]

That all sounded like airy fairy gibberish to me. P.S. Isabel Wilkerson is the one who needs to learn history. Public executions were commonplace in Europe until the mid 18th century. There were a spectacle.

[@katebarker5612]

Even later, 19th centuary in UK.

[@lauralewis1290]

2 brilliant, honorable, God Blessed individuals in the Fight for Democracy. 🤗🦅🗽Thank you! Normal vs. Krazy-🙄 I am on 💪🏿🗽🦅🌊Team Normal....the Sane Majority.

[@mikusoxlongius]

PUREBLOODS RULE

[@davidatkinson5858]

Buy my book.....cos of racism and sheeeyte

[@stacywilliams8427]

Blck Tv nett

[@beyondhuman3148]

💨🤡

[@MG-eh6bx]

What?

[@laurie113]

Caste……? Caste means something different in America, as it does In India. 😮

[@9xmeysj]

You should read the book. She actually compares the two systems.

[@IceQeen1011]

ultimately they tie it to Hinduism. The same Western eurocentric Abrahamic bs again omg

[@aishabintabubakr4944]

Let's remember that the cops were the 13% and the one whitw guy that was charged was making the coffee in the dispatcher room

[@Brandonsniffskids]

Another msnbc race baiting story😂😂😂😂😂

[@lenblack1462]

Truth is a hard pill for you to swallow.

[@shlepmessing8703]

@@lenblack1462 Not really. All MSNBC ever does is chase Trump and race bait. Stop upvoting your posts.

[@davidatkinson5858]

@@Matt-1147 why are they two thirds of all murder offenders?. Why are they the largest per capita government subsided and the lowest tax contributors?and why is that a worldwide phenomenon? And why are you too stupid to realise that?

[@franklin9400]

@@Matt-1147 Same reason 13% of the population. Commits 50% of the violent crimes.

[@franklin9400]

@Matt-1147 I don't see you calling the DOJ sexist. Just because men commit the majority of the crimes and are therefore charged at a disproportionate rate compared to women.

[@relativity1581]

Nobody cares

[@brupeboring]

correction ignorant cult members dont care

[@neatneat9088]

I care. Millions of God loving people care. The fact that you apparently don't shows a lack of humanity, but I'm not surprised.

[@fancycatman]

@@neatneat9088 bro, it's the internet don't get so caught up

[@relativity1581]

Tyre who?