ISB vs Imperial Intelligence What's the Difference?

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@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 2 жыл бұрын
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@1LEgGOdt
@1LEgGOdt 2 жыл бұрын
And now you're channel has been put under investigation by Xi's CCP.
@yuyaplays9311
@yuyaplays9311 2 жыл бұрын
So this is unrelated to the video but I had a wild Idea for a what if scenario and would love to see generation tech's take on it. What if the Rebel Alliance captured the first Death Star Instead of destroying it.
@sumanadasawijayapala5372
@sumanadasawijayapala5372 Жыл бұрын
7:12 So you're saying China doesn't see the US, Japan, India, etc etc as external threats????
@roger632
@roger632 2 жыл бұрын
Random, but I just love the fact that Admiral Yularen as an ISB officer was technically in ANH; since, in Rebels, they designed him to look exactly like that Imperial ISB officer that was sitting with the other Imperial officials and Vader in that meeting held on the Death Star.
@MetaFanWing
@MetaFanWing 2 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, Yularen was always meant to be the ISB commander in A New Hope.
@sheevpalpatine2128
@sheevpalpatine2128 2 жыл бұрын
That's my guy ever since the Failed Republic
@Sc0rpJoe
@Sc0rpJoe 2 жыл бұрын
It was more the other way around, the background character in ANH was named Admiral Yularen years before the Prequels where a thing, then when The Clone Wars came around, they repurposed him as a recurring character. When they had him appear in Rebels, they of course used his established design at that point in the timeline
@dgalloway107
@dgalloway107 Жыл бұрын
Hes designed after him because thats literally him. The only reason he looks different in clone wars is because those wars turned his hair white.
@dgalloway107
@dgalloway107 Жыл бұрын
Sorry i didnt realize someone else said it already.
@mpalfadel2008
@mpalfadel2008 2 жыл бұрын
Easy Imperial Intelligence is a apolitical, professional organization ISB, the Imperial Security Bureau, is a political organization that also dabbles in intelligence gathering, etc… as well as focusing politics, culture, youth organizing, and ‘Party’ politics
@DarkPuppy9
@DarkPuppy9 2 жыл бұрын
Not how Imperial Intelligence has been portrayed in new canon or Legends, in a dictatorship every part of the government is political.
@ravanpee1325
@ravanpee1325 Жыл бұрын
Imagine today the difference between FSB and GRU in today Russia or the intelligence community in the US
@GlamorousTitanic21
@GlamorousTitanic21 2 жыл бұрын
The difference was similar to the difference between Wehrmacht intelligence service; the Abwehr, and the Waffen SS. One was the intelligence branch for the main military command structure, while the other worked at the behest of the Nazi Party and answered only to Hitler, while being composed of people super loyal to the regime.
@mpalfadel2008
@mpalfadel2008 2 жыл бұрын
Great example and analogy
@jacobhuff3748
@jacobhuff3748 2 жыл бұрын
Overall good analogy but a more accurate analogy would be the SS(and its subdivisions like Sicherheitsdienst, Gestapo, Sicherheitspolizei & Waffen SS) & Abwehr. The Waffen SS was a combat branch of the SS while the others handled internal security or intelligence(just proof of how paranoid & wasteful Nazi leaderahip was). The Abwehr on the other hand was hang over from Imperial Germany that predates the Franco-Prussian war by 4-5 years. Sadly it was dissolved after Wilhelm Canaris was suspected of supporting the July plot and others were exposed for leaking information. Never heard someone being hung by Piano Wire til I learned about Canaris.
@KardasheviteUltravisionary
@KardasheviteUltravisionary 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the the SS had it's own rival intelligence services with the Geheimnestaatspolizei (Gestapo) being quasi-integrated into the Allgemeine-SS, and the SS's own intelligence service the SicherheitsDienst (SD). Needless to say, having a ton of bureaucratic organs compete with eachother in what can be called "bloodsports" was one of the many incompetent failings of the Nazis.
@mpalfadel2008
@mpalfadel2008 2 жыл бұрын
@@KardasheviteUltravisionary incompetent failings of the Nazis but essential for Hitler to be the only one who could act with confidence while every other power hungry nazi having to constantly look over their shoulders The OG imperials set up their government this way This was before Lucas decided to redo the lore in episodes 1-3
@jacobhuff3748
@jacobhuff3748 2 жыл бұрын
@@KardasheviteUltravisionary Please don't remind me, the German names and Acronyms are headaches enough without trying have to figure out what each did.😫🤕
@dont-rump901
@dont-rump901 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is a Star Wars video but given the opening part just thought it’s important to note the US/CIA/FBI/other intelligence agencies are also politically driven especially ones like the CIA that work internationally. There’s that old cliche of it being “Capitalism’s Invisible Army” for precisely those ideological reasons.
@sheevpalpatine2128
@sheevpalpatine2128 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you that was a glaring omission, as i think the CIA has been horrible to people with all kinds of declassified experiment, ya everyone is evil but them. Okay.
@Veldtian1
@Veldtian1 Жыл бұрын
It's Anglo-American (in service to) "neo-con bolshevism" Mercantilsim to be specific.
@dont-rump901
@dont-rump901 Жыл бұрын
@@Veldtian1 no, those are kinda a bunch of words thrown together with loose connections to the history. It’s not Bolshevism whatsoever, nor is it merchatilism. It is derived from Anglo-American imperialism and neoliberal economics with the neoconservative movement spawning out of. But the full history goes back to things built over more than a century, neocons are only from like the last 40 years given neoliberalism was born in Chile via the coup and dictatorship in the 1970s.
@Philipp3022
@Philipp3022 Жыл бұрын
i prefer "Clowns in America" or "Coup Intelligence Agency" but "Captialisms Invisible Army" is also a nice one.
@MrsMeow9237
@MrsMeow9237 Жыл бұрын
@Philipp3022 the US is the Empire. Vietnam, Iraq, South America, and etc.
@patrickstewart3446
@patrickstewart3446 2 жыл бұрын
And this STILL doesn’t scratch the surface of Imperial Intelligence. All those divisions have subdivisions under them (this is probably why some think there are smaller agencies in the Empire). Though in practice, the only one who aren’t office workers are the Operations agents. If you meet someone from II, they are almost certainly in Operations. If they kill you, they are a part of the Assassination office. If he’s a double agent, that’s Infiltration. And if, suddenly, the commander of a Rebel garrison suddenly turns on the government of the Rebel colony and begins rounding up people for a purge, congratulations! You’ve just been visited by Destabilization (Destab), the department that makes even Assassination queasy.
@basher20
@basher20 2 жыл бұрын
Another important distinction is the general attitude toward the Rebellion. To the II and Imperial Military generally, the rebels were enemies. Yes, you fight your enemies, but you can respect, and even in some ways admire them. To the ISB, the rebels were effectively heretics. They had seen the "truth" according to Compnor and rejected it. You don't respect heretics; you most certainly don't admire them. You simply destest them, as they are no more worthy of respect or mercy than a bug or a discarded food wrapper. You either dispose of it or recycle it into something useful via the Reeducation Corps.
@casbot71
@casbot71 2 жыл бұрын
0:34 _"what their Porpoise's were" …_ The mask is slipping.
@notaspy1227
@notaspy1227 2 жыл бұрын
I for one welcome our oceanic mammalian overlords.
@blackc1479
@blackc1479 2 жыл бұрын
@@notaspy1227 but who runs the dolphins? Ever notice that orcas never sing? Tight lipped sadistic bastards...
@schitflowsdwnhil
@schitflowsdwnhil 2 жыл бұрын
This
@Wedgekree
@Wedgekree 2 жыл бұрын
If anyone's interested in the 'original' establishment of the lore for these grous in the EU, look up the old West End Games Imperial Sourcebooks. They came out in the 80's and 90's and helped developed a lot of the things in the EU for how the Imperial military worked. A very fun read and extremely well written and they set a lot of the foundational blocks for how things worked.
@josephmariani9945
@josephmariani9945 2 жыл бұрын
Did anybody else notice how Allen said Purpose, seems pretty dolphin to me.
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 2 жыл бұрын
Youre a dolphin
@ogerpinata1703
@ogerpinata1703 2 жыл бұрын
@@GenerationTech 🧐
@benjaminbierley2074
@benjaminbierley2074 2 жыл бұрын
Kind of sus
@henryjones6173
@henryjones6173 2 жыл бұрын
Sounded like porpoises 🐋, or was it some sort of New York accent 🤔
@BugKimbo
@BugKimbo 2 жыл бұрын
@@GenerationTech ur such a troll😂😂
@augiegirl1
@augiegirl1 2 жыл бұрын
The ISB sounds like the Romulan Tal Shiar from Star Trek. “Face of the Enemy” (TNG Season 6, Episode 14) clearly portrays the hatred that the Romulan military feels toward the Tal Shiar.
@the_once-and-future_king.
@the_once-and-future_king. 2 жыл бұрын
Why the switch in allegiance, Alan? Next thing you know, you'll be friends with a dolphin. Long live the Empire!
@sheevpalpatine2128
@sheevpalpatine2128 2 жыл бұрын
So say we all ! ...... oops wrong franchise
@gmansgnarlyscienceshow2820
@gmansgnarlyscienceshow2820 2 жыл бұрын
I think of it like the FBI vs the CIA.
@AR-io8fv
@AR-io8fv Жыл бұрын
Thank you for being one of my few regular rotation SW creators that loves Andor! I love it too and can’t get enough of it.
@KS-sl4ji
@KS-sl4ji 2 жыл бұрын
I like how you drew the comparisons of the Empire’s Intelligence agencies with real world ones like the KGB, GRU, SS, CIA and others. The history nerd in me enjoyed this. 👏🏽 I’m subscribing to you
@rezaganjizadeh4263
@rezaganjizadeh4263 8 ай бұрын
The SS was more akin to a paramilitary organization that wasn't officially part of the army but had equally good equipment. An exmaple is found in Iran. The Sepah is para military while the Artesh is the official army
@haroldcarfrey4206
@haroldcarfrey4206 2 жыл бұрын
There was a third, COMPNOR, but it was kinda rough
@an-animal-lover
@an-animal-lover 2 жыл бұрын
What does that stand for, again?
@haroldcarfrey4206
@haroldcarfrey4206 2 жыл бұрын
@@an-animal-lover Committee for the Preservation of the New Order
@an-animal-lover
@an-animal-lover 2 жыл бұрын
@@haroldcarfrey4206 thank you
@gavinfann7041
@gavinfann7041 2 жыл бұрын
Suppression of internal descent is ideal for any apex empire. Russia, China, the increasingly the USA...
@yukin1990
@yukin1990 Жыл бұрын
Because Russia and China infiltrate the USA .......
@woahquill1334
@woahquill1334 2 жыл бұрын
Would’ve been cool if you touched up on Sith Intelligence/TOR era Imperial Intelligence. There’s SO much lore there and it’s all so neat
@an-animal-lover
@an-animal-lover 2 жыл бұрын
TOR?
@qr-code6334
@qr-code6334 Жыл бұрын
@@an-animal-lover The Old Republic
@an-animal-lover
@an-animal-lover Жыл бұрын
@@qr-code6334 oh, right
@crownprincesebastianjohano7069
@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 2 жыл бұрын
Odd question. Fewer intelligence agencies often have advantages in terms of coordination and analysis. Multiple agencies often lead to siloing and institutional group think as well as resistance to cooperation and sharing. And sometimes it leads to outright rivalry that can be counter-productive, not unlike the relationship between the Abwehr and SD during WWII. There should only be three types of intelligence agencies, or subagencies: Domestic intelligence, foreign and military specific. More than this and there begs dysfunction. The Pre-9/11 US intelligence system is a prime example of how multiple, overlapping agencies often refused to work with another, and how analysis tended toward toeing an institutional line rather than providing a clear picture for decision makers.
@ravanpee1325
@ravanpee1325 Жыл бұрын
That's not a bug, it's a feature when you don't want to give to much power in one hand e.g. Beria and the NKWD in the Stalin era
@der_peevmeister
@der_peevmeister 2 жыл бұрын
Heh, makes me think of one of my favorite lines from TOR: _”They’re scared of you here, aren’t they? You come, you go. You’re the freaking secret police…”_
@sheevpalpatine2128
@sheevpalpatine2128 2 жыл бұрын
@Richard Roe possibly The Old Republic, i was wondering too.
@KuraiLunae
@KuraiLunae 2 жыл бұрын
@Richard Roe Usually it's abbreviated as SWTOR, for Star Wars The Old Republic. The line is from Kaliyo, one of the characters in the Agent class storyline.
@The_Lucent_Archangel
@The_Lucent_Archangel Жыл бұрын
The real world comparisons are handy. From elsewhere in fiction, one could see the II and ISB having parallels to regular military intelligence versus the more cloak and dagger organizations in Star Trek. Starfleet Intelligence vs. Section 31, or the standard intel officers as opposed to the Cardassian Union's Obsidian Order or the Romulan Tal Shiar. The latter two had similar operational authority over regular assets while 31 was meant to operate purely by subterfuge but also "recruit" regular officers and/or manipulate them into completing dangerous assignments or sniff out internal dangers to the UFP.
@snugglecity3500
@snugglecity3500 Жыл бұрын
In andor we hear that there is also army intelligence which would be regular military intelligence
@MolnarG007
@MolnarG007 Жыл бұрын
I wonfer is this come in play in Andor more. Rivalry, infiltrators, informants, etc. Endless possibilities.
@DarthTextingStories
@DarthTextingStories 2 жыл бұрын
you said porpoises instead of purpose
@DarkPuppy9
@DarkPuppy9 2 жыл бұрын
I was suprised Disney didnt include COMPNOR
@Wintermute01001
@Wintermute01001 Ай бұрын
Technically ISB is part of COMPNOR.
@TheIslandDivision
@TheIslandDivision 2 жыл бұрын
4:24 Forgot this was a Star Wars video for a second....
@BogDweller1780
@BogDweller1780 2 жыл бұрын
Haven’t watched the video, but, stab in the dark is the difference similar to how the FBI and CIA are different?
@rgonz81
@rgonz81 2 жыл бұрын
Did he say "porpoise" instead of purpose at the beginning????
@jeremypintsize7606
@jeremypintsize7606 2 жыл бұрын
Real World Number of intelligence agencies for 4 european countries France: 10 UK : 10 Germany: 10 Federal +16 (one per Land (state)) Italy : 4
@jorenvanderark3567
@jorenvanderark3567 2 жыл бұрын
Germany has 3. Not 10.
@johnwotek3816
@johnwotek3816 Жыл бұрын
France only has 5 agency in the intel community... DGSE=>it's job is to gather intelligence on foreign soil and manage clandestine action DGSI=>mostly police intelligence, but also counter espionnage on the civilian level DRSD=>the counter espionnage for the military and everything surrounding military affair DRM=>intelligence processing for the military HQ TRACFIN=>tax fraud specialist Anything else are joint entity or subordinated services.
@ravanpee1325
@ravanpee1325 Жыл бұрын
Germany has just 3 federal...BfVS (Bundesamt für Verfassungsschutz) - internal, BND (Bundesnachrichtendienst) - external , MAD (Militärischer Abschirmdienst) - military
@user-po8ri5pq9g
@user-po8ri5pq9g 2 жыл бұрын
Only two that you know of, there is actually [redacted] and [redacted] who formed after [redacted].
@HawkeyePi3rce
@HawkeyePi3rce 2 жыл бұрын
Read about this online trying to find the difference not 2 months ago. THANK YOU, ALLEN!
@Cold_Potato4
@Cold_Potato4 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Generation Tech, I don't know if you will see this, but can you make a video on how the ranking system works in the empire. thx :)
@estherclawson6876
@estherclawson6876 2 жыл бұрын
I think there's already some videos out there about it....
@Bob-mv9tq
@Bob-mv9tq 2 жыл бұрын
Love you bro
@DMSProduktions
@DMSProduktions 2 жыл бұрын
Imperial Intelligence:It's a contradiction in terms!
@doctor.davinci.76
@doctor.davinci.76 2 жыл бұрын
".... explain what their porpoises were" .... lmfao
@michaelsargeant5923
@michaelsargeant5923 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your hard work 👍🇬🇧
@benjaminnguyen554
@benjaminnguyen554 Жыл бұрын
i appreciate you man, these are the details of the universe we need :]
@lerneanlion
@lerneanlion 2 жыл бұрын
If the Commonwealth is proclaimed in place of the Republic, will that make any difference?
@gavinlee27
@gavinlee27 2 жыл бұрын
@trueblueprussian 23 I think he means the United States Commonwealth of Fallout?
@andrewlim9345
@andrewlim9345 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video comparing the ISB and Imperial Intelligence with various real-world spy agencies. Like the comparison with Soviet and Chinese intelligence agencies in particular.
@HolyknightVader999
@HolyknightVader999 2 жыл бұрын
They need to be strong enough to do their job, but not strong enough to overthrow the Emperor.
@chrisplumb4284
@chrisplumb4284 2 жыл бұрын
The Lusankya called and wants to break free...
@christophersandidge8257
@christophersandidge8257 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, no matter what intelligence agency you are a part of, and how competent your agency is, the current politics will always trump actually facts.
@mystryj4771
@mystryj4771 2 жыл бұрын
Heresy!!!! The Holy inquisition has redacted this video…….. ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
@gideonhorwitz9434
@gideonhorwitz9434 Жыл бұрын
I liked the sith empires model from the old republic Two main agencies military intelligence and imperial intelligence within imperial intelligence you have the general organization dealing with policing ,surveillance data gathering internal security and field operations/military support. Then you have the operations division answering directly to the minister of intelligence a flexible quick response unit of the empires most highly trained operatives able to work independently in the field. Dealing with high level threats anti espionage and counter terrorism.
@joshuadelbelbelluz8325
@joshuadelbelbelluz8325 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please continue the separatist alliance vs earth series please
@mentalmandolorian5723
@mentalmandolorian5723 2 жыл бұрын
8:29 Allen gets censored by a dolphin? Coincidence? I think NOT!
@reklessbravo2129
@reklessbravo2129 2 жыл бұрын
"and explain what their porpoises were" 🤣🤣🤣
@ADobbin1
@ADobbin1 Жыл бұрын
Well ISB is internal security and Imperial intelligence would be Military intelligence. Since the military doesn't have separate branches as we would know them it makes sense they wouldn't have more than one military intel service. I mean everything from ground forces to storm troopers seem to operate as subsidiaries of the Imperial Navy.
@toptiergaming6900
@toptiergaming6900 2 жыл бұрын
anyone else recognize the Klingon bat'leth here 11:43
@maaderllin
@maaderllin 2 жыл бұрын
Yup! And not any Bat'leth. It's Kahless' bat'leth. Wich means when Worf and Kor beamed it into space, it somehow ended up in the Star Wars' universe. Good luck for any klingon to ever find that sacred relic now.
@toptiergaming6900
@toptiergaming6900 2 жыл бұрын
@@maaderllin I wasn't sure everyone would know it's the sword of Kahless' so that's why I didn't go into specifics by I wonder how it traveld back in time (unless a long time ago is only afrw centuries ago)
@matthewjay660
@matthewjay660 2 жыл бұрын
THANK-YOU! I was looking for this comment SPECIFICALLY. I KNEW that I wasn't going mad. 🤪 I was like, "What the F... ?!! WHAT?!!"
@seb2750
@seb2750 2 жыл бұрын
They should implement an Imperial Social Credit and an Imperial Bureau of Disinformation Governance
@ignaciorodriguez5636
@ignaciorodriguez5636 2 жыл бұрын
How should the New Republic be organized structurally?
@tk-6967
@tk-6967 2 жыл бұрын
Actually there are at least 3 main divisions of intelligence, in the Thrawn novels it is revealed that the 2 prominent ones are Naval Intelligence and the ISB, but they have a similar relationship to the CIA and FBI (or at least how they are portrayed and sometimes act), so are often at each other's throats when interests and missions collide
@LarryPhischman
@LarryPhischman 2 жыл бұрын
Actually the USA has over a thousand intelligence agencies.
@johnquach8821
@johnquach8821 2 жыл бұрын
IIRC there were also others such as the Ubiqtorate?
@patrickstewart3446
@patrickstewart3446 2 жыл бұрын
The Ubiqtorate IS Imperial Intelligence. That is just another name for it. They are one in the same.
@hornet370
@hornet370 2 жыл бұрын
Imperial Intelligence was the sister organization of the ISB, meaning II was entirely reliant on ISB to exist
@Tr0nzoid
@Tr0nzoid Жыл бұрын
Nice use of the "Alienated" music from ELFL, also known as the unofficial Popcorn in Bed theme.
@onetruekeeper
@onetruekeeper 2 жыл бұрын
It is a well known practice to have two different intel groups to observe and report on the same target. If their reports don't match then one of them is lying.
@federov100
@federov100 Жыл бұрын
Great video, enjoyed this.
@jefftappan3091
@jefftappan3091 2 жыл бұрын
Porposes??
@jeremypeterson8002
@jeremypeterson8002 2 жыл бұрын
So did clone intelligence during the clone wars just become imperial intelligence?
@randomguy1928
@randomguy1928 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@ANobodyatall
@ANobodyatall 2 жыл бұрын
Internal Security and Military Intelligence I guess, like Russian/Soviet Union KGB/GRU, UK, MI5/Mi6, US FBI and Homeland/CIA.
@poil8351
@poil8351 2 жыл бұрын
only questions who is the imperial version of the soviet/russian mvd then?
@akumaking1
@akumaking1 2 жыл бұрын
1:43 are you are the Alphabet agencies are decentralized?
@oddmanout8692
@oddmanout8692 2 жыл бұрын
"What were there porpoises were".... Dolphin joke???
@J0HN5AW
@J0HN5AW 2 жыл бұрын
17 agencies. Q = 17th letter. 17 planets in Solar System (8 planets, 9 dwarf planets) ;)
@pyeitme508
@pyeitme508 2 жыл бұрын
oh
@pirobot668beta
@pirobot668beta Жыл бұрын
There needs be two Intelligence Agencies. The first Agency exists solely to gather and verify information from all over the Galaxy, that the Empire might have accurate and timely knowledge of all things. The second Agency exists solely to keep an eye on the inner workings of the Empire itself, and reports their findings directly to the Emperor.
@ravanpee1325
@ravanpee1325 Жыл бұрын
That's not how it works, because the competition between this two intelligence organisations is organized on purpose by the Emperor
@notaspy1227
@notaspy1227 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, nothing more ironic than “Military Intelligence.”
@Greyhound706
@Greyhound706 2 жыл бұрын
Score one for military intelligence -Griggs
@xvor_tex8577
@xvor_tex8577 2 жыл бұрын
The famous oxymoron
@jxc1640
@jxc1640 2 жыл бұрын
“Two words combined that can’t make sense”
@JC-mi7wn
@JC-mi7wn 2 жыл бұрын
Some of the most intelligent people in the world work in the military
@notaspy1227
@notaspy1227 2 жыл бұрын
@UCZhI6bckre_cJ5PfrKulr0A you kidding me, you don't use this zinger every time you meet an intelligence officer?
@totallyhuman7175
@totallyhuman7175 2 жыл бұрын
I was playing Warhammer and missed parts so had to watch twice
@bryanzuniga2422
@bryanzuniga2422 Жыл бұрын
Love your cap. Pura vida!
@neofulcrum5013
@neofulcrum5013 2 жыл бұрын
So one operates within and the other operates outside
@jamesnoonan2009
@jamesnoonan2009 2 жыл бұрын
nice now can we get a video like this but about the republic?....im sure they had intelligence agencies as well
@matthewjay660
@matthewjay660 2 жыл бұрын
🙋🏻‍♂️ Does anybody know if the I.S.B. had ranks outside the standard ranking system of the Imperial military just like the ... people under Himmler had their own names for ranks? Major versus Sturmbannführer?
@azazaz4627
@azazaz4627 Жыл бұрын
Current official ones are Special Agent (Kallus), Lieutenant (Deedra from Andor), Major (Peetraz I think is his name from Andor) and Colonel (Yularen, Rebels and Andor) outside that there is at least likely a Director and Deputy Director
@GrievousReborn
@GrievousReborn Жыл бұрын
Well respawn entertainment threw the idea of the Stormtroopers not having non-mission critical chatter out the window with Jedi Fallen order and Survivor
@rexlumontad5644
@rexlumontad5644 2 жыл бұрын
Karen: "They're the same picture."
@Т1000-м1и
@Т1000-м1и Жыл бұрын
You've been visited by the irrational fear of internal ambitious traitors doggo. Raise your left hand at 45 degrees to increase your social credit
@bigsarge2085
@bigsarge2085 2 жыл бұрын
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@dougkeyser6634
@dougkeyser6634 Жыл бұрын
Batman is the head of the GRU?
@bigchungus120
@bigchungus120 2 жыл бұрын
Ok got it one is really a inteligence department and one is simp Yep
@Zanaan
@Zanaan 2 жыл бұрын
Did I hear "what there porpoises were" or am I hearing things?
@JacobGilbert-x6q
@JacobGilbert-x6q 12 күн бұрын
Emma Harbor
@nickvinsable3798
@nickvinsable3798 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad I’m more of a Referee/Umpire/Official authoritarian, i.e. I’d allow Peaceful Protests & other forms of Complaints, but NOT riots; that I’d go as far as dictating the proceedings of the protest, & nothing more… IF this was _Star Wars_ , I’d allow Stormtroopers & other helmeted individuals to express themselves without punishment, unless they’ve expressed anything that threatens innocent lives & such…
@Torlik11
@Torlik11 2 жыл бұрын
So... basically what we have right now. Daring today aren't we.
@nickvinsable3798
@nickvinsable3798 2 жыл бұрын
Yes & No, @@Torlik11. The only key difference is this: if I was in charge, we wouldn’t have had those monument destroying, police station burning, nor capital storming temper tantrums, aka riots. IF they seriously wanted such destruction, they’d be dead. If they Wanted a peaceful protest, I’d insert special agents to silently takeout anybody who’ll incite violence in those Peaceful Protests, or even include various security details with enough knowledge to ensure such inciters wouldn’t be in the Peaceful Protest. Basically, I can see myself as a Benevolent Dictator, willing to listen to the people & Impaling idiots who’ll bud in with “I’M GONNA FREAKIN’ MURDER YOU!” attitudes… Hopefully, that’ll clear things up…
@Capt.Thunder
@Capt.Thunder 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is, while I agree that a certain level of order should be maintained as a rule of thumb, if you look at the US Constitution, it recognises the need for the people to use violence to overthrow the government when it becomes tyrannical. Obviously that is not the same thing as simply looting box stores, breaking windows, or lighting random cars on fire - in fact, the argument for preventing those kinds of riots is due largely to the nature of those targets, as innocent citizens are being terrorised, and one of the most fundamental duties of the state is to step in to protect its citizens and their property rights - but to say that violence against the state is never justified is rather foolish and invites tyranny and oppression of the population. It's a difficult line to draw, and the founding fathers basically decided to encourage righteous uprisings, but on the understanding that it was taking your life in your own hands, as the state was obviously going to defend itself whether it was legitimate or not.
@nickvinsable3798
@nickvinsable3798 2 жыл бұрын
Completely agreed, @@Capt.Thunder; not the first time I’ve arrested or even killed, not murdered, killed cops who’re abusing their authority & such. In fact, I’m not loyal to my political party, but to the People of the United States of America A~ND the rest of the world, & such. However, my Distrust of the average person is still super high, to the point that I have no other choice but to induce Martial Law; hyper-high organization & Security that is Loyal to everyone & everything that individuals, including you, should hold dear…
@VeldaWilmot-i6q
@VeldaWilmot-i6q 18 күн бұрын
Demetrius Walk
@generalkuros56
@generalkuros56 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I just had this thought what happend to the younger kamino clones we saw in bad batch they were moved what happend after that 🤷 it choud be obvious and I just missed it
@factsmachine9905
@factsmachine9905 2 жыл бұрын
Early boi
@scelonferdi
@scelonferdi Жыл бұрын
Wait, don't Death Troopers belong to the Tarkin Initiative (which makes their flanderized use throughout Star Wars media kind of stupid)?
@theromanorder
@theromanorder 2 жыл бұрын
ALERT the intelligent has been captured
@robertagu5533
@robertagu5533 2 жыл бұрын
If they're effective. There's no reason to have more then a couple or so Intel agencies. Just like any other needed branch of something. The US government alone only has maybe a handful of "Intel" agencies itself. At least formally an each is devoted to 1 specific facet of "intelligence" BUT those are understandable even vital depending on which said facet they exist for. With who knows how many "freelancers" an much smaller an lesser groups allowed or working for such governments as 3rd party an like. IF such agencies are decently competent or VERY good, even on an intergalactic scale, just a handful of said official agencies can work too. You just need to account for ALL THE places you'd absolutely REQUIRE a "local" branch an how many personnel each would HAVE to have to both be optimal, have people to spare and/or need at a minimum to function. Then in theory you also must know what all their responsibilities are an where your gonna have everyone that kinda thing is all pretty basic but you'd be surprised how much what should be the obvious actually has to be planned out an repeatedly mentioned
@curiousgeorge5992
@curiousgeorge5992 2 жыл бұрын
Whole lot of smoke blowing going on
@holzbierproductions9153
@holzbierproductions9153 Жыл бұрын
You got the Kommissars wrong. You mean the NKWD. Kommissars were NOT in the NKWD. They were more like kommunist field priests. In fact, they were not feared by the average ranks. They were less feared than the normal officers and they were rather feared by other officers due to their party connections. Kommissars were invented to control the officers corps, not the soldiers ranks.
@markymarktheroro
@markymarktheroro 2 жыл бұрын
I heard you say porpoises instead of purposes. Are you yourself a porpoise and is that why you hate dolphins?
@LMGunslinger
@LMGunslinger Жыл бұрын
These videos really highlight why the empire failed.
@slicerneons3300
@slicerneons3300 2 жыл бұрын
Imperial intelligence? In.most cases that is an Oxymoronic Contradiction.
@GreaterGoodEnjoyer
@GreaterGoodEnjoyer Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the famously non political CIA
@rippedgnome3985
@rippedgnome3985 2 жыл бұрын
Oooweee
@rippedgnome3985
@rippedgnome3985 2 жыл бұрын
-MrPoopyButthole
@llllIIIlllIIllllII
@llllIIIlllIIllllII Жыл бұрын
:3
@joshuakeller7525
@joshuakeller7525 2 жыл бұрын
its like saying why have cia and fbi
@WallNutBreaker524
@WallNutBreaker524 Жыл бұрын
Very noice you covered both sides of the political extreme, Communist Leftism, and Facist Right Wingers.
@mannen659
@mannen659 Жыл бұрын
The German 'Stasi' was the most hardcore agency. 9 out of 10 citizens were recruited to the organization, as from a post-commie pray to god you don't have these things in the west, as you choose to volunteer to the intelligence agency.
@ravanpee1325
@ravanpee1325 Жыл бұрын
They even collected the smell of people in glases, it's no joke
@chrishansen4541
@chrishansen4541 Жыл бұрын
Gestapo was not that bad and they where not all powerful as KGB.
@nomercyinc6783
@nomercyinc6783 2 жыл бұрын
Military intelligence is an oxymoron
@-JA-
@-JA- 2 жыл бұрын
💖👍
@cookydemon444
@cookydemon444 2 жыл бұрын
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