What is the Septuagint? How Does It Explain Archaeological Chronology? - Dr. Doug Petrovich

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Archaeologist Doug Petrovich takes us to the Oriental Institute of Chicago where he shows us a variety of ancient archaeological artifacts from the Middle East. Along the way, he goes over the problems with carbon-14 dating, as well as his views on the Septuagint (Greek Old Testament).
Dr. Doug Petrovich earned a PhD from the University of Toronto, with a major in Syro-Palestinian archaeology, a first minor in ancient Egyptian language, and a second minor in ancient Near Eastern religions. He formerly was the academic dean and a professor at Novosibirsk Biblical-Theological Seminary (Siberia, Russia), as well as at Shepherds Theological Seminary (Cary, North Carolina), having taught over 30 different courses. Dr. Petrovich’s research interests include biblical history and exegesis, Egyptology, and ancient Near Eastern history (including archaeology, epigraphy, chronology, and iconography). He teaches Ancient Egypt at Wilfrid Laurier University (Waterloo, Canada).
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[@ErikPehrsson]

I can’t think of what to say in response to the videos you post except this: GOD BLESS YOI!! 🙏🙏🥰🥰🥰

[@mitchellc4]

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has ab God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!

[@erikhaldeman5802]

@@mitchellc4 John 8:58

[@mitchellc4]

@@erikhaldeman5802 Hi Erik John 9:9 as well? Healed blind man claiming to be God?? Ego eimi same words No Jesus didn’t use Exodus 3 in John 8 Jesus said before Abraham was born “ego eimi” which means I am he Multiple people say ego eimi in the New Testament, but you’re not saying they are God? The blind man who was healed said it John 9 9 Some said, “It is he”; others said, “No, but he is like him.” He said, “I am the man.” I am the man= ego eimi The healed blind man just said ego eimi, did he just refer to Exodus and claim to be God?? Of course not I believe in the Greek translation of Exodus it says “Ego eimi HO ON”-I AM THAT I AM “Tell them I AM has sent you”-tell them HO ON has sent you Had Jesus said HO ON you may have a point, but he didn’t - Jesus has a God Who is Jesus’s God? Who is Paul referring to as “the God of our Lord Jesus Christ”? Who is Peter referring to as “the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ”? Who is Jesus referring to when he says “my God”? Rom 15 6 that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Cor 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 2 Cor 11 31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed for ever, knows that I do not lie. Eph 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, Eph 1 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him, Col 1 3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you, 1 Pet 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, Rev 1 6 and made us a kingdom, priests to his God and Father, to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. Rev 3 12 He who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God; never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem which comes down from my God out of heaven, and my own new name.

[@wisdompie7497]

Interesting for sure

[@musashimiyamoto586]

@@mitchellc4 Yes, why don't you quote a few more bible excerpts to prove that you are right.

[@martentrudeau6948]

The Septuagint was the bible of Jesus, the apostles and early church. For Old Testament scriptures I like the Brenton Septuagint English translation. The King James New Testament is based on the Textus Receptus Greek text, I believe is excellent translation

[@NathanH83]

That's right

[@rickmiller8893]

Excellent work with the thirty and one hundred thirty years. I have recently been studying the Septuagint more lately to further understand untranslatable Hebrew words etc. I used to think it was worthless as I didn't know the differences in the texts. I thought Hebrew-hebrew... Why would you even consider the Greek version?..boy.. Was I ignorant. I think a lot of people have assumed to much incorrectly... Actually..I don't think..I KNOW they have. Great stuff.

[@mrvampire41]

Septuagint, I believe is the accurate account. Timelines for all events are accounted for. God is perfect in all His ways. His children know His truth when they hear it. Glory to our God and Saviour Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Blessed His Name.

[@shaerobbins4924]

The things you learn when one decides to learn or research the old world, regarding the flood and the dispersal of civilization, for yourself is truly amazing. The scientific establishment is based more on agendas and less on the truth

[@julianmarsh1378]

except none of that happened.....

[@loriboyters4171]

The more I seek Truth, the more I realize that there are multiple agendas leading us away from Truth. The author of Truth is God, the enemy of Truth is Satan.

[@fountbrooks2997]

🎯

[@fountbrooks2997]

@@julianmarsh1378 Prove it.

[@beeveedee9355]

I could listen to this guy talk for 2 hours. His presentation and explanations are so clear and precise. Praise God for brilliant minds that serve him.

[@lisagrace6471]

Agree! 💯💥💣 amen!

[@AintNoFool]

It is unfortunate that educated "scientists" cannot bring themselves to accept the Bible as a valid historical document. Our own education & our children's are skewed based on that bias.

[@maryblushes7189]

@@Rachmanfan4life you are wrong.

[@matthewstokes1608]

@@maryblushes7189left hemisphere know-it-ALL (knowing nothing)

[@CJFCarlsson]

I am happy that you do not fear the comments. There is nothing to fear from the discussion.

[@brianwinters5434]

Well done to make the information understandble to non scholars. I have a masters of theology from Liberty Seminary and I leaned most of what you say at a scholarly level.

[@hellwithit]

What exactly is a religious scholar anyway? Because they don’t agree with each other in numerous ways? Mount Saint Hellens newly formed rocks dated to over a 100k to 1 million years. And they knew the age of the rocks. Decay is based on the current situation of the environment. But. Biblical stories are based on stories even older than monotheistic religions. Both science and religion twist and manipulate the narrative to suit a purpose of their own wanting. I have found that you take a little from both sides. And you are closer to truth than standing on one side or the other. There is so many mistakes in the translation that Jews had a day of mourning upon the writing of the scriptures by western historians. Hey- exodus. Chapter where god is telling Moses what he is to do. Why is God looking to kill him?? And does your conclusions match other scholars from Jewish, orthodox, catholic conclusions? And. If I show you 10 pictures of different people- could you pick Jesus out of them? Sure you can. What is written about idol worship pagan? And the command of The Most High?

[@johnmonk9297]

If you learn from a deceived teacher you learn deceived teachings.

[@johnmonk9297]

Hell with it. Those dating processes are flawed. They make too many assumptions. You cannot trust those old earth dates. If you research it there are many instances where they made different dates for different parts of the same animal. And made a 28 year old Rock from mount st Helens as 10000 years old.

[@Mr05Chuck]

I used to not like museums taken artifacts out of their context but with sects of Islam destroying historical sites I guess it is well to preserve them.

[@TwizzElishus]

Sects of islam? More like ALL of islam.

[@billperez1141]

Thanks guys. Even now this earth is still recovering from what took place in Noah's Day. Then we read what the world was doing just a few generations after the flood when those who lived through it (Noah's sons) still living eyewitnesses. People still mocked GOD'S judgement on this earth in Noah's Day & gathered together to make a great name for themselves, only to be scattered when GOD came down & confused their languages. It should be no surprise that today the world still mocks God's Word when it comes to creation, the flood & Jesus's return & hate those of us who believe HIS HOLY WORD, Just as Jesus said they would because they (this world) hated HIM first.

[@rbtjgonzalez]

So if you believe in the big flood that lasted a year: 1) what did the vegetarian animals from the ark survive on since all vegetation would have been destroyed? 2) What did carnivorous animals survive on since any animal they ate would mean the extinction of that species since there were only 2 of each kind, 3) how did animals like South American sloths and Australian Koalas make it to the ark, 4) How did the animals make it back to their homelands after the flood since Uber wasn't around back then and - if it was - the cost would be astronomical!? Fairy tales should only be read to children with the understanding that they are fiction.

[@jparks6544]

@@rbtjgonzalez All your supposed roadblock questions are very EASILY answered. Very easy. But you don't have an open and accepting mind so answering you is a useless exercise.

[@rbtjgonzalez]

@@jparks6544 I know the answer: It's magic!

[@plume2035]

people prefer it to be untrue as it means it can be ignored and mocked. If true, the Bible would be shown as correct and they would be deliberately mocking God then. They do not want to give account to God so the best way is disbelieve and mock. Belittle it and those who do believe it. It has been very obvious for a long time when you read the comments on any video that supports the Bible.

[@fazole]

@@rbtjgonzalez They were possibly put into a God invoked hibernation.

[@alexandervanwyk7669]

Thank you very much for emphasizing the offset regarding radio carbon dating before ~3400 years. very few are aware off it.

[@mitchellc4]

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has ab God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!

[@mitchellc4]

@Arminius Who is the God of Jesus??? Rom 15 6 that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Cor 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 2 Cor 11 31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed for ever, knows that I do not lie. Eph 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, Eph 1 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him, Col 1 3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you, 1 Pet 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

[@mitchellc4]

@Arminius Who is the God of Jesus? Rom 15 6 that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Cor 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 2 Cor 11 31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed for ever, knows that I do not lie. Eph 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, Eph 1 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him, Col 1 3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you, 1 Pet 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

[@tylerbouck3555]

@@mitchellc4 Jesus is God. Who we see in the old testament.

[@downundergarage6968]

I am sure that radio carbon dating can be re aligned ro account for the offsey or at least narrow the gap. You have ice core samples with ancient air tapped in it, you have old logs that have 6k + rings on them, probably few other inputs as well.. it is also possible that ancient record keeping was not that great.. lol

[@WadeWeigle]

Thank you for sharing this. It’s very good to hear this broken down and explained clearly. God bless you.

[@lisagrace6471]

Yeah he did such a good job with very complex topics. Wow

[@athb4hu]

Love this. I have heard of the differences between the dates in the MT and other sources before. I am absolutely no expert, but the longer times seem to make more sense, in a number of ways.

[@nicerperson1]

There is a reason why these years were plucked out, It was down to Rabbis wanting to show that Melchizedek was actually Shem - therefore Jesus could not be the "priest in the order of Melchizedek" and Abraham actually met up with Shem. Unfortunately the rabbis do not have any problems with distorting the Torah, even denying many messianic passages which they previously held before Christianity became dominant; such as the "suffering servant" songs in Isaiah.

[@kriegjaeger]

@@nicerperson1 It may be the unforgivable sin.

[@marrywhite3788]

Yup😵‍💫 God will judge us for the truth we are made aware of. I am concerned about not finding a thinking mind as to what God says about changing the World of God And the judgment it places on people

[@Kaz.Klay.]

​@@nicerperson1 literally removed several verses to not accept Jesus... How orthodox treat messianic Jews is wild!

[@MarkMetternichPhotographyLLC]

Doug Petrovich ROCKS!!!

[@RollingEarthShip]

It should be required for all students, from primary school all the way to college to watch these videos and learn from these amazing scientists. If Darwinian fairytales are allowed so should creation teachings. 🖖🏻👍🏻

[@darthbane2669]

Amen, shame they banned Christian truth in schools for many decades now.

[@get-the-lead-out.4593]

A bunch of scandalous garbage when the government will ban anything in public schools having to with Christianity due to religion including words, symbols, etc on clothing but yet satanists and luciferians are given complete rights for saying and wearing what they want in our public schools which our tax money pays for. It is a fact that satanism and luciferianism is a religion based on their god they worship and there are even many of their churches around the whole country .... and hey, what about the muslims who were given rights in our public schools to wear their religious clothing, speak about their muslim god, and even get a special time through the day for prayer?

[@KenJackson_US]

Exactly right, Rolling EarthShip. Why does any scientist still believe in natural causes when easy math shows a simple protein couldn't have evolved in trillions of trillions of years. And the flood is in the historical record.

[@PrivateSi]

Why, these creatards are disingenuous liars lying about science. They should be insulted, nothing more.

[@stevepearson4522]

adfasd then why do you watch them 🤔

[@ErikPehrsson]

The explanation for the offset at 6:09 is just mind-blowing. It’s incredible to know how the Lord orchestrated all this 🤯🤯🤯🤯

[@KenJackson_US]

I've come to regard that "offset" as strong proof of a young earth. Radiocarbon dating *assumes* the earth is old enough that the C14 in the atmosphere is in equilibrium. But if it's less than 10K years old, then it's _still_ not in equilibrium even today. Therefore the dates are erroneously older and older the farther back you go.

[@rossland254]

it's been demonstrated that the earth magnetic field has been weakening. This means that in the past there was less c14 in the atmosphere because the earth magnetic field was shielding more solar particles which are the cause of the formation of c14. Nowadays the magnetic field is less strong so more c14 is formed. one of the assumption of c14 dating is that c14 is stable around the globe over the centuries, but it's not!

[@lisagrace6471]

​@@KenJackson_US would love to hear more on this!😊

[@lisagrace6471]

​@@rossland254 interest8ng!!🤔😄

[@KenJackson_US]

@@lisagrace6471 If the earth is billions of years old, as the radiocarbon daters _assume,_ then there's no question that the atmosphere has been in C14 equilibrium for eons. That is, each hour, each day and each year, the total number of new C14 atoms being created in the atmosphere (by nitrogen irradiated) is equal to the number being removed (by decay or consumption by plants). Equilibrium. But if the earth was created less than 10,000 years old, the atmosphere presumably started with zero C14. So it's been building up ever since, exponentially. "Exponentially" means that it's initially being added at a much faster rate than it's being removed but the removal rate increases as it approaches equilibrium. (The more C14 that exists in the atmosphere, the more decays.) Since the radiocarbon daters think they can accurately date objects out to 70,000 years, then we have to assume it would take at least that long to go from zero to equilibrium. But if the earth is less than 10,000 years old, the atmosphere isn't in equilibrium yet and won't be for many millennia.

[@trackinggod8087]

You keep coming up with excellent material. Thanks so much!

[@atthebrink74]

Yes! I love this content! Genesis is literally the foundation of our belief. It has been so undermined over the past 200-300 years. Most Christians have such a poor understanding of the book and of the science behind it that proves it's literal Truth. It's not a fun bed time story, it's Truth.

[@flipwright1138]

@@atthebrink74 It's fine to have your own beliefs but please don't say there's science to prove it. The vast majority of Scientists would disagree with you.

[@mervynpeterson7998]

only fools would believe it was real

[@trackinggod8087]

@@mervynpeterson7998 This fool has a doctorate and IQ of 145. So...

[@mervynpeterson7998]

@@trackinggod8087 but he believes in a mythical thing something that does not exist how smart is that

[@Fthrof7]

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! It's so important to be taught BOTH sides of a story and ALL facts so that one can come to an educated opinion. So often, the weaknesses of modern dating are never even presented. Thank you so much for posting this.

[@theriveroffaith852]

I love this stuff! Thank you Lord Jesus for dying on the cross for me ❤️

[@Rick081808]

Amen

[@theriveroffaith852]

adfasd What?

[@frytkiniesasmaczne]

lol

[@theriveroffaith852]

frytki nie są smaczne I haven’t watched this entire video yet, but I love his series. Why do you laugh?

[@Heckle174]

@@IIrandhandleII Yip. Supported by LOADS of data you will never bother to check out for yourself. Supported by loads of scientific research you will not accept because of no 'peer reviews' ... regardless that they're qualified and massively experienced and their 'peers' simply have not accepted any research, since around the 60's, if the data ended with the support for creationism. When/if you do some serious creationist research... you will never be back to contend our data... because it makes perfect observable sense. Every 'scoffer' never disputes the data, they simply spew insults and opinions... you know... because that's real science apparently. There are so many holes in millions of years and evolution, and your scientists change their minds so often, yet that is ignored... you run on belief... blind faith.

[@hotgirl6665]

Amen, I believe it...

[@NathanH83]

THIS IS SO COOL!!!! THANK YOU!!!

[@JackPyro333]

I saw your video on this before this. Love it!

[@NathanH83]

@@JackPyro333 Thanks!

[@tb7591]

Great and complex scholarly research underpins this clip. Thank you.

[@markjovanelli2607]

Always. Use protection when dating and especially when dating carbon.

[@GreenTekHaus]

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[@lindsaydickson47]

😂😂😂

[@pocadon]

🤣...that was perfect!

[@paulspring]

Always!

[@georgeins.c.494]

Good one 👍

[@LinkWave290]

I need to check out more of this channel later...

[@DestinedForEternity332]

21st century radiocarbon dating isn't going to work on artifacts from the pre-flood era. The Earth's atmosphere was totally different at that time. There was a canopy of water around the earth (firmament) causing a greenhouse effect. That canopy would also block cosmic and solar radiation from reaching the Earth's surface, which is probably why the antidiluvians lived such long lives.

[@colinthomson5358]

@@velkyn1 - Do you understand that not all Christians agree with each other? "AH he's Christian too so you must believe them"

[@colinthomson5358]

@@velkyn1 - Also remains of plants, animals and tropical jungles have been found in the arctic circle and antarctica. 6 months of darkness yet they not only lived but thrived in those regions. Dinosaurs too! It blows my mind how they were able to survive in those conditions.

[@johnbrinsmead3316]

so if this canopy blocked solar radiation what heated the earth?

[@colinthomson5358]

@@johnbrinsmead3316 - The canopy would be present during the several Ice Ages of Earths past and then the only* heat would come from inside the Earth. *Or, a greater amount anyway

[@johnbrinsmead3316]

@@colinthomson5358 so God surrounds the earth with a canopy of water to cause an ice age? and this has happened several times? that's quite a miracle.

[@jackjones3657]

May God richly bless people like this willing to dedicate their lives to the study of God's Word and its historicity amidst a world that seeks to discredit and marginalize their findings.

[@richardchandler4894]

The council of Yavne, is where most like Rabbi Akiva cooked the books. When the Messianic Jews refused to join in the appointment of Bar Kobha as the proclaimed Messiah, they viewed them as traitors. At this point, they became full pledged apostates, and at this point most believe the books were changed. This is when Aquila's Greek translation came out. Justin Martyr testified that they had removed scriptures from the original, and gave examples.

[@generalzod8589]

As someone who considers himself to be Christian, I found the video to be interesting. But the description of the video, doesn't seem to match with the the topic of the video. I probably misunderstood.

[@martinmelzer5872]

It doesn't

[@uwekonnigsstaddt524]

You are correct on your observation. Some people could call it “click bait”. This particular video is not the only one that suffers from it. The content is amazing and love this information being exposed to everyone. Obviously, this video is only but a partial from a longer one.

[@generalzod8589]

@@uwekonnigsstaddt524 👍😄

[@solentbum]

The whole point of this series of videos is to present one particular view of history, often by ignoring real history and generally accepted science. Pay careful attention to the use of 'assumptions' in the presentation.

[@mitchellc4]

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has ab God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!

[@desireuys2794]

Thank you for this amazing video. I was never interested in archaeology but as this is seen from a biblical point of view it is absolutely amazing.

[@sheribrown3521]

I don’t believe in the Darwin theory I believe in my Bible about my ancestors Adam and Eve....plus as archaeologists and geologists can show (if the rest of the scientific community actually listened) our planet has been going through “climate change” off and on for millennia as we have had more than one Ice Age and we are only coming out of the most recent one (ice cores and ocean core from the floor show this) I also absolutely love archaeology

[@desireuys2794]

I am a follower of Christ. Sometimes you eat fish and spew out the fishbones, (Darwin).

[@michaelc.3812]

Del, I’m a huge fan from Colorado. I worked and funded PhDs for much of my career, and I appreciate the fact that you look to those doctors for opinions.

[@gregdavis19]

The doctor nailed radiocarbon dating that many of us believed all along.

[@leanderfoster8450]

As a student of archaeology and servant of Christ I appreciate finding this channel very much

[@cancerfour69er]

@@hansdemos6510 Obviously she/can't as they haven't replied..

[@Nelson373737]

Just another amazing explanation and teaching from these extraordinary scientists in these channel. God bless and protect all the people involved making the videos in these channel.

[@johntafoya4752]

We have artistic ability the glory from our creator and not for man. You guys have a twisted way of putting things. I think you guys need to read more of the Bible

[@PrivateSi]

These liars are overfunded by brainwashed sheeple who want their wishful thinking to be declared true by 'experts' and 'scientists' so that we atheists and people of non-biblical religions have to bow to your vast, superior knowledge... Sheer deluded Christain Creatard arrogance... These people deserve insults, not funding. They are disgrace to the human mind.

[@jameybobamey7343]

@@PrivateSi sources?

[@uwekonnigsstaddt524]

PrivateSi Where did you get the authority to define what is “disgrace”? Atheists, very rude and bitter that they are, can’t explain how the universe came into being without violating the 1st Law of Thermodynamics. Your words in your posting clearly indicate that your thoughts on the matter have no meaning nor consequences since there is no meaning for life. Very vicious self defeating circle you put yourself in.

[@janbuyck1]

Nelson373737 : i don’t understand why one would trust these frauds ...

[@obeddanielbenjamin6947]

I love all the music on this series!

[@georgeins.c.494]

Fantastic! 3rd view so far and learn more and more

[@rickedwards7276]

There’s a whole world of reality out there just waiting for you. It’s a very rewarding world but it requires a certain amount of courage on your part.

[@JohnThompson-gs3gh]

As the sand falls through the hourglass, so goes the days of our lives. (Oh dad, just stop.)

[@rickedwards7276]

John Thompson 🤣 I’ve always had a bit of a problem understanding how my life is like an hour glass, on the other hand it has been one big soap opera so perhaps that works…

[@tonyinarizona4350]

What's wrong with carbon dating? What's wrong with online dating? Too many variables.

[@bradleyweiss1089]

I like your thinking. But whether every thing started at creation or a Big Bang it has some standards. That is everything started at once. So at creation the clock started ticking. Since uranium degraded to lead. They had to be created together as it would all be at the same stage. All uranium say or all lead or somewhere in between. With the Big Bang same thing. If the world were as old as they say it should all be lead. The same with carbon. It was all created at the same time. That’s why a local college tested a live mollusk out of Lake Erie it said it was 5,000 years old with carbon dating.

[@uwekonnigsstaddt524]

Bradley Weiss Correct. It is an assumption that carbon decays at the same rate. We would have to have an instrument that consistently measures carbon decay, everyday, for the last 5 years, 50, years, 500 years, 5,000 years, and more. Also, another assumption is that scientists believe that carbon doesn’t contaminate all those years.

[@autonomouspublishingincorp8241]

Actually there is only ONE variable that is vital to modern radio-carbon dating, and for anything up to approximately 10-15,000 BC it seems to be incredibly accurate. At that point, suddenly the numbers jump wildly into the millions and billions of years. The logical conclusion is that the decay rate of the measured carbon (the vital variable) changed in some way at about 10-15,000 BCe. This is something that A.P.I was the first to publish in 1963 but is still ignored by nearly everyone. (which made this video refreshing to hear someone else state this obvious probability.) Interestingly, that is also the point most "extinction level event" dates hover around. This includes multiple meteor impact sites, Tectonic events, and geological anomalies, which suggests that "The Flood" involved a lot more than just a bunch of water covering the Earth. Pre-flood there is a creation account that suggests a Pangea land-form. Post-flood, the world is described very much as it's seen today. Also note the introduction of the rainbow Post-flood, vs the mist watering the face of the Earth in the pre-flood account, suggesting the entire atmosphere was very different, expanding drastically in the post-flood period. **Side note; In proto-hebreic language, "40 days" often expresses a great length of time, not a specific literal 40 day time period. It's a little like saying in English; "I waited forever to hear someone else say that". Doesn't literally mean I waited for all eternity.

[@bradleyweiss1089]

Fred Smith It’s global warming with an agenda. What date do you want? What date do you expect? That’s what they’ll give you. Many things need to be rewritten but made factual. Not what’s going on today.

[@bradleyweiss1089]

WMLouisiana Exactly. Agendas abound. Actually watch the video Agenda by Curtis Bowers. It’s free on KZbin. Very interesting.

[@aaagggmmmsss]

Excellent !

[@tunaskurniaabaditunaskurni4689]

God bless your work

[@LonskiBig]

....From my amateur understanding....Carbon- dating is only useful when there is Carbon left from a previously living organism. But it assumes a constant Carbon- 12 content in the atmosphere, which was messed- up Pre- Flood to Post- Flood.......Something like that...

[@alanguy58]

Precisely so, young grasshopper. 😉 Carbon-12 and carbon-14 are two isotopes of the element carbon. The difference between carbon-12 and carbon-14 is the number of neutrons in each of their atoms. ... Atoms of both isotopes of carbon contain 6 protons. Atoms of carbon-12 have 6 neutrons, while atoms of carbon-14 contain 8 neutrons. There’s a wide variance of the deposition of BOTH throughout time. And it varies in regions of our planet. The source of these depositions? Solar Flares, Coronal Mass Ejections and Cosmic Rays. It’s EXTREMELY RARE that any of these events ever affect the whole planet at the same time.

[@pocadon]

@@alanguy58 accurate definition... but dude what's up with Saint Stephanie and the caps lock turrets? Weird.

[@AD-en5dq]

@Saint Stefanie Daniella can you give me some bullet point things to google or a video series for whatever you are talking bout here

[@libertyresearch-iu4fy]

@@AD-en5dq I would think you could copy and paste phrases directly from the comment, and they should work very well.

[@PrivateSi]

Problem with their insultingly dishonest assertion is that we have 10s of 1000s of years of CO2 isotope data from ice core samples taken at the poles and from glaciers... Carbon dating is just one tool and is rarely the only method used to date a find.

[@janetross1900]

My Dad grew up in Chicago. He brought us to the Oriental Institute multiple times as we were growing up. I'm 66 now and can't wait until Covid clears so I can go back (just retired from straight midnights as a respiratory therapist). With all of the years of scripture study since I've become a Christian I'm anxious to see these things again. I'll be able to connect what I'm seeing with when it happened and what was happening at the time!

[@janetross1900]

I appreciate your comments. I wasn't so concerned about the dates. What I want to be able to do is see artifacts connected with the people present around when biblical events occurred. The first thing you see when you enter the building are 2 huge Babylonian statues. They each have the body of a bull with the head of a man, and the man has a beard that looks like it has long curls made with a curling iron, aligned next to each other. They are massive! I hope you have a chance to go. I'm grateful to my father for taking us their.

[@janetross1900]

You are so fortunate to have been able to see these things. I can only imagine the discussions you and your wife must have. I doubt that I'll be able to come to Europe, but thank you for what you've told me. I found it fascinating and I am a little jealous. I have enjoyed our talking back and forth. As of yet, there is no one I closely personally know that I could discuss this sort of thing with. I guess I'll just continue to read National Geographic! Please stay safe and healthy. Sincerely, Janet Ross

[@janetross1900]

Your last name looks like it may be Dutch. My Mother's mother grew up in Friesland and her father in Rotterdam. Her last name was Wyma and her cousin's last name was Postma. They took a cruise through the canals in the Netherlands. She was able to find the home where her mother grew up in Sneek, Friesland.

[@mariab8711]

Thank you.

[@wisdompie7497]

14:59 classic mind blowing YES

[@nicerperson1]

With all the shaky cam going on I expected Jason Bourne to burst onto the scene!

[@submissiontogodalone-1994]

😂

[@jga6147]

Could the radio-carbon dating 'Offset' be the result of a huge difference in the amount of C-14 being produced in ancient times as compared with today? The assumption is made in C-14 dating that the amount of atmospheric C-14 has remained relatively constant through out time, but we have to assume that. It could also be assumed that at some point in the distant past, no C-14 was being produced.

[@eliortiz5460]

what phenomena would you suggest would support the assumption that not C14 was produced? It is more likely that it has remained constant.

[@newcreationinchrist1423]

God bless you guys 🙂🙏

[@rolandgerard6064]

Be blessed.

[@alexandervanwyk7669]

The more I listen to you the more I respect your interpretation regarding biblical archaeology. If only people can discover that the Bible is an extra terrestrial book. Inspired by God Himself and the only true historical (and future) reference to mankind.

[@CosmosMarinerDU]

I Googled "carbon dating offset" and only could find references to a single offset of 20 years with no exponential growth. Can anyone point me to the 200 year offsets with exponential growth sources he's referring to? Thanks!

[@jaegold5373]

Good... Learning from google.. I see.. READ BOOKS..!!

[@CosmosMarinerDU]

@@jaegold5373 Well, usually if a topic is valid there are references to it on the web, including Wikipedia. But I would be very pleased if you could point me to any valid source that is not referenced on the web. I would appreciate your including a quote from your source of course giving some assurance of validity.

[@albertbricker2614]

Excellent

[@Gutslinger]

Man.. Wish I could remember the video that I watched a while back that explained that issue about the age numbers.

[@arcyllisanaspergersgamer2367]

Might it have been by NathanH83? He went over the dating issues in his video "Were the Pyramids Built Before the Flood?"

[@Gutslinger]

I think it was from a fairly small channel that sounded like a younger person narrating. I think he went over manuscripts and pointed out why the commonly accepted age of the people in Genesis is a misconception. I think he added 100 years onto their age, and gave good textual reasons for it. And the result made the timeline seem to align better with historical data. I'll give those channels a look and search around. 👍🏻

[@paulbrennan4163]

@@arcyllisanaspergersgamer2367 Yes, I think that's the one. I saw that video about a year or so ago. I vaguely recall him saying something about the Jews changed the numbers on purpose in order to disprove some Christian claim.. something to do with Melchizadek? Not sure... I am going to watch it again.

[@profoundgreetingsfromneptune]

Thank you, IGH, for continuing to shine the piercing light of truth in an age shrouded in the dark deception of Darwinianism.

[@soldtobediers]

Now there's spiritual warfare and flesh and blood breaking down Ya either got faith or ya got unbelief and there ain't neutral ground The enemy is subtle, how be it we are so deceived When the truth's in our hearts and we still don't believe ? -Bob Dylans' 2nd stanza of his song "Precious Angel" album: "Slow Train Coming" (1979)

[@soldtobediers]

@John Bergeron 8 thumbs up knows better.

[@bearbones4347]

@John Bergeron same

[@markoaks8694]

Isn't it also possible that the ratio of carbon-12 and carbon-14 was different in the second century BC than today? That would also cause incorrect dating.

[@wisdompie7497]

Beautiful 💞💙💞

[@richardchandler4894]

Seder ha olam rabbah, is a problem that even the Jewish Rabbi's recognize the wrong dates. It is obvious, they cut almost 1400 years out of the bible. I think accepting the dates of the SP, and the LXX, solves alot of challenges in the dating of the flood, and creation. For example, the oldest tree in the world easily matches the LXX dates. Human history and writing as well. This is one reason the Dead sea scrolls were an amazing find. They proved there were vorlages similar to the LXX, and that there is an older tradition that drew from the LXX

[@milos5519]

And that tree is dated by a false method

[@ernestimken6969]

The Rabbis cut about 300 years out of the Bible. The Hebrew calendar says the years from creation are + -- 5700 when, according to Bishop Ussher's Annals of the World, we are at + -- 6000 years from Creation. Those missing + -- 300 years made confusion of Daniel's prophecy of the death of their Messiah so that Jesus could not be the one, but some people knew the prophecy, including the three wise men, Anna and Simeon.

[@nicerperson1]

@@ernestimken6969 All those missing years were from before Daniel, so they did not mess up the prophecy. They do affect Jesus being a priest in the order of Melchizedek though, as rabbis claim Melchizedek was Shem.

[@rumpolstilscin]

God's timing may not be ours. His clock might look a LOT different, after all, we are only human. WE are caught in time. HE is not.

[@plume2035]

they did that as with the correct dates, Jesus was shown as the Messiah. Put the wrong dates in and they can argue against Him. it is in their interest to be wrong.

[@araunapalm]

The pre-flood world was different to post-flood world. The bible says the water was divided to below and above the expanse. No rain fell because a mist came up from the earth. Above the expanse was a water canopy which protected mankind from bad UV rays from the sun. This created a world which was like a hot-house with large plants and more areas wherein large animals could move in water. Large animals overheat quickly and need water. The water canopy broke above the expanse during the flood and in the post-flood world the bad UV rays built up and accelerated. Human lives became increasingly shorter. The bible gives a wealth of information - if only people would investigate it! I have studied the main theme of the bible intrinsically for logic, continuity and consistency and have come to the conclusion that it is absolute reality. The true God wanted humans to understand why mankind is separated from Him and tells a consistent history/story of how he has allowed wicked human rule (independent from him and his right to choose good and bad for us) on earth. It shows how God has been working throughout history to restore mankind back into a perfect relationship with him and restore the earth back to its original condition according to His purpose. He only interferes in our affairs when His final purpose is in jeopardy..... such as the flood and changing of languages. God is just..... he gives humans a choice. When we reach the apex of technological advances, mankind will use this great earthly power to oppress and bring evil on mankind to a degree never seen on earth before. God will have proved that mankind cannot rule themselves successfully when independent from God. (Atheists take note) The true God will step into human affairs and with his kingdom-government under Christ will restore his original purpose for the earth.

[@Heisthelightoftheworld]

Thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven... How wonderful that God wrote everything down for us the end from the beginning. And all He wants from us is a personal relationship. Can't get simpler than that.

[@jgrahamiii7749]

Don't you find it interesting (or hilarious perhaps) that the pre-Flood world was in effect a gigantic greenhouse, and the modern day critics are ranting and raving about the "greenhouse effect"..? Crosby Stills Nash and Young had a song when I was much younger that said "we all must get back to the Garden"..

[@nunyabisnass1141]

JGraham III i see it as sad. If the rules were different in such a way in the pre-flood time, then you cant blame ppl for doubting biblical claims. If i told you that the entirey of history beforenyou were born was fabricated and you can only trust what i say, could you blame anyone for not trusting my claims of history?

[@adrianlambeth314]

I think you are on the right track. There was a difference in atmospheric pressure, oxygen levels, up penetration all which would contribute to a skewed carbon date.

[@Theresa24111]

Well said

[@peterescalante1207]

Interesting video but it did not seem to answer the question in the title. My question is this - is there archaeological evidence of pre-flood civilization or culture?

[@raydal]

A video or book or article doesn't have to answer the question posed in its title. They discussed the question but the answer is "nobody knows the exact date". That is not deceptive at all.

[@zabaleta66]

Generally I'd run with the Masoretic text. Do agree with Dr Petrovic on much of what he says though but I'd say Doug does adhere to the orthodox Egyptian chronology whereas I believe it needs some condensing.

[@sirsaint88]

My disappointment with this clip is it really didn't answer the question.

[@jenniferlawrence1372]

Me too. Fascinating info. Completely misleading title.

[@zaharishtonov]

This is just one video of whole series. You have to watch them all.

[@paeng46]

It’s the title that is wrong and misleading, not that it didn’t answer the questions.

[@wannawatchu66]

@deadend Give it a break.

[@raydal]

A video or book or article doesn't have to answer the question posed in its title. They discussed the question but the answer is "nobody knows the exact date". That is not deceptive at all.

[@autonomouspublishingincorp8241]

"Do some ancient cultures predate Noah's Flood?" According to Genesis, yes. Duh. According to other modern sources and claims? ...What flood?

[@mojoman2001]

What Noah?

[@plume2035]

@Harry Denny interesting to see you were there at the time to state it never happened. every continent has stories about the same thing that never happened. they all describe with great similarity that non event. amazing. and you know more and better than all of them. wow

[@ranterredhead5005]

@@plume2035 Such hubris!! 👍😉

[@JamesDeese]

@Harry Denny Most certainly the flood happened and is demonstrated in the geological evidence. In fact what was once a fringe of science is becoming mainstream. You may reject the Bible, but the facts of the flood keep coming at you.

[@jasongallman2032]

@@plume2035 Did Muhammad fly to heaven on a horse? Did Jesus come to America? Is Joseph Smith lying? Did odin give his eye at mimirs well? Were you there?

[@jefffinkbonner9551]

Yes, it always seemed like the flood taking place in about 2337 BC did not leave enough time for everything with Abraham being more definitively from about 2,000 BC. Pushing the flood back to about 3100 BC definitely leaves more room for Nimrod and the dispersal from Babel and the growth of the various ancient civilizations.

[@jtlc100]

Interesting

[@jamesmunn8144]

I have heard the best explanation for the differences in the Masoretic Text and the Septuagint from Nathan Hoffman. He presents a KZbin video on “Were the pyramids of Egypt built before the flood?” With a little of Back to the future insertions for humor. I don’t concur with the final conclusion of the pyramids age based on fossils beneath them because I believe some fossils could have been there before the flood, but his points about ages of 30 to 130 from Shem on down is spot on. I think Dr. Tackett would do well to consider his point.

[@scottmccln]

Nathan's video got me going on this 'timeline' thing recently. I had read years ago some medieval historians who said some rather large sounding numbers, variously relating events to the exodus, or the creation, 'AM', or Abraham's day. These were PDFs I managed to get for free. I was a poor man who went to the public library on a bus to get away from my schizophrenic roommate for a while. So for a few years, way in the back of my mind, I was haunted and fascinated by the vague memory of these strange long dates. Well, they seemed long to me at the time I read them. Now I am frustrated, saying to myself 'where are those things I was reading?' Volcanoes and lakes newly appearing in the days of so and so who came to this island some number of winters or years from the days of the Flood. I am now wondering. Were some of these writers using the long chronology? I think no stone should be left unturned in the working out of a real Christian view of history. We have this unsightly chasm of 'huh, I don't know' when it comes to 'secular' history. I'm talking about things like the early settlers of England, Wales, Ireland, Greenland, Nova Scotia, and their relationship with Greek, Anatolian, Baltic, and Egyptian history all of which relate to the Genesis 10 Table of Nations. The story of Hayk killing 'Bel' is interesting from the Armenian Chronicles, which, as I recall, begins 'Let us remember'. It relates potentially to Nimrod or some other Mesopotamian or Assyrian despot. We should not join the world in so broadly dismissing 'the Dark Ages'. There needs to be more research. Old 1800's scholars I read were fascinating, too. Cool characters, rather like a few we have today, like David Rohl, who, I guess like me, was a musician. I only recently 'retired' (gave up from exhaustion) from trying to work with the Evangelical Church as a church musician. Back some years ago I read a 1800's scholar... can't remember his name... he was a professor in Toronto Canada, I recall noting in the title page. Scholars at the time of his writing were trying to decipher inscriptions from Hamath. This rather cocky scholar I was reading from 'Forgotten Books' was positing a fascinating hypothesis, a potential model for aiding in deciphering work. The hypothesis went on for pages. It was the idea of a gradual restless Hittite migration eastward to the new world down through the centuries. Down the trail he found hints of names related to 'Hittite' and Hittite names and words in voluminous indigenous histories, names of places, sources mentioned in the far east, with a few guesses thrown in about what may have motivated them to move again and again. Very speculative, but erudite, and perhaps a bit showy, but fun, a kind of innocent spirit of intellectual grander, not like the bland evolutionary boring pomposity of our last century. Thinking about these things makes me wish young people today had this kind of Christian-world-view curiousity to learn from 'primary sources' in world history. I think people used to be a lot smarter and curious than we are today. And they didn't have to be 'out there' religious or pious in order to just live and explore, because boring anti-Bible-faith evolutionary thought and marxist burdensomeness had not yet crushed the spirit of the mind of the culture, nor had Emersonian ponderous 'All is God' uncreativity and cynicism yet hindered the excitement of child-like faith exploration. Were the old Calvinists so bad that everybody had to go 'Hindu'? The early Christians, somewhere I remember reading in Justin Martyr or somebody back in the Pre-Nicene days, were in the early stages of their instruction called 'inquirers'.

[@briandouglas5552]

A little humor for your morning: Q - "What's wrong with carbon dating?" A - It leaves two sets of carbon footprints.

[@jamesjordan6005]

Good Lord, go back to bed lol

[@marius2k8]

You made a joke with the phrase "carbon footprints" that didn't trigger me. (*is very tired of environmentalism the religion*) Sincere congratulations.

[@joshhoodrat451]

Don’t you have to know how much carbon an object originally possessed to count backwards based on rate rate of decay to be able to have any chance to accurately date the object ?

[@Rob2000]

No, because you are working with ratio's

[@WiseGuy508]

Check out Barry Setterfield's explanation of this problem due to the change in the speed of light.

[@fredgillespie5855]

Check out Barry Setterfield's "Chronology of the Old Testament".

[@KenJackson_US]

*3108 BC!* Yes! I love that specificity. I knew about the Samarian and Septuagint texts. I've always believed the flood was "about 5000 years ago." Now Dr. Petrovich puts it more precisely at 5128 years ago. Excellent.

[@jparks6544]

lol. The Bible does not say that.

[@KenJackson_US]

There's an AWFUL LOT of truth that's not in the Bible, @@jparks6544. Did anyone ever say the Bible is a _complete_ history?

[@garyjaensch7143]

Ken Jackson not long after the ark landed on Mt Ararat , one language spoken, Tower of Babel built, God scatters everyone with different languages, scholars today trying to work out why one language,then rather quickly 400 languages all over world with ties to proto indo european.

[@garyjaensch7143]

www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/02/mysterious-indo-european-homeland-may-have-been-steppes-ukraine-and-russia

[@rustyislandable]

There are a few earlier ancient civilizations that had global flood legends.

[@masterkeep]

Every civilization old enough has a flood narrative.

[@JamieAllen1977]

@@masterkeep because it's true.

[@dakotadaily7404]

Which makes complete sense if the Biblical narrative is true. According to the Bible, every person on earth is descended from one of Noahs 3 sons. Geneticists are now proving this to be true. And so every civilization old enough would have an ancestral memory of this event. Just because some wrote it down before others, or there are discrepancies between the stories means nothing. The fact that these stories exist is significant.

[@John-is9nj]

On the carbon 14 discrepancy -- instead of change in rate of decay of carbon 14, it could be that the generation of carbon 14 in the atmosphere was not the same during a period of time, due to changes in the amount of cosmic rays which are the source of carbon 14.

[@lonestarstate6570]

He said, “ it’s illogical to change the text from 130 to 30…” but the same scholars will then say the shorter reading is usually the preferred and correct reading. Compare psalm 14:3 if the Masoretic (13:3 in the LXX) with the Septuagint and tell me which is original…

[@francisbusa1074]

Thank you so much for addressing the issue of the corrupted chronology of the proto Masoretic Text by anti-Christian Jews following the destruction of the Second Temple. Failure among most religious and secular scholars to acknowledge this historical fact has led to confusion of the dates of, for example, the Creation, the Flood, the Exodus, the conquest of Canaan and many other important events in the Bible. Much light can be shed on the Bible's history by simply acknowledging this.

[@francisbusa1074]

No. 3359 BC.

[@francisbusa1074]

Read Woodward's outstanding work.

[@francisbusa1074]

"Rebooting the Bible"

[@lespotter8293]

I would like to know more about this. Do you have any more info?

[@francisbusa1074]

Les Potter The best advice I can give you Les, is to order Woodward's outstanding and scholarly book. There is a wealth of info there. It's one of the finest books I've ever read, and he is supposed to come out with a Part 2 soon, which will focus a lot on archaeological aspects. "Rebooting the Bible" S. Douglas Woodward

[@georgesoney3594]

In 333 BC, Alexander the great, captured palestine. In the third century BC, the Tanakh was comprehensively translated into Koine Greek for the first time. The Hellenistic era was at its peak and Greek was the Lingua Franca of most of the world. You'd think that this would be a milestone in Jewish history. In reality, it created somewhat of a split between Egyptian Jews on one side and Palestinian and Babylonian Jews on the other. Egyptian Jews were based in Alexandria and were, generally speaking, more hellenized and worldly compared to their Asian brethren. It seems most Egyptian Jews considered the translation a very positive development. A document called “the letter of Aristeas” describes the events leading to the translation. The Ptolemaic king Ptolemy Philadelphus is urged by the chief librarian of the Alexandrian Library to translate the Hebrew Bible so the wisdom of the Hebrews can be added to the wealth of wisdom accumulated in the library. The king agrees, and sends for 72 Jewish scholars to do the translating work. In the letter, Ptolemy is appraised and admired. A similar attitude seems to exist in the writings of Philo of Alexandria. In Palestinian and Babylonian sources, the attitude is diametrically opposite. The translation is considered a tragedy, so much so that its completion in the month of Tevet is listed in Ta'anit tractate as one of the reasons for the fast day on the tenth of Tevet. According to that same source, when the translation was completed “three days of darkness befell the world”. The Babylonian Talmud describes Ptolemy's real intentions as sinister: he had every one of the 72 scholars work in a different place without being able to consult one another, so as to prove that the wisdom of the Torah is not divine but human, and thus subjective and can be interpreted 72 different ways. Miraculously, all 72 scholars came up with the exact same translation. What bothered Jewish scholars about the Septuagint, or the Translation tof the Seventy, is probably that it would cause the Bible to become just another book of wisdom in the massive Hellenistic treasury of knowledge. It would lose its status as divine and sacred. That’s probably what they meant when they described Ptolemy's intention as being to secularize the Bible and prove it's human source. Furthermore, the spirit of the Bible might get lost in translation. Another possibility is that the writers of the Babylonian Talmud had the advantage of retrospect. They knew that the ambiguity of the Septuagint would ultimately be used by followers of Christianity to prove that old-testament prophecies about the Messiah were cerainly talking about Christ. They knew that this would be used to attack Judaism and accuse Jews of being blind to the fulfillment of the prophecies right before their eyes Jesus had predicted fall of Jerusalem temple. When it happened in (72AD ?) and the Jews were dispersed all over the world, the Pharisees met and came out with the plan of defeating christians. By then the original Hebrew Bible was lost and they came out with the MASORETIC TEXT in Hebrew. They decided the cut off point to be Prophet EZRA. This text had only 66 books. As you rightly mentioned Jesus was using the SEPTUAGINT BIBLE (Greek) which had 72 books. Christians were using the Septuagint Bible till 1517, when during the protestant reformation, Martin Luther favoured Masoretic text hebrew bible, as he wanted to prove that sale of indulgences was wrong. He wanted to prove that Vatican is corrupt. When In 1534, the modern day, HEROD, King Henry the VIII ,THE CHAMPION OF CATHOLIC CHURCH was denied permission to marry another woman by his Arch bishop arrested him and when he was denied permission from Pope, executed his Arch bishop and declared that he is the HEAD OF THE CHURCH ! Thus The Church of England was born. His successor , King James came out with KJV. Which has only 66 books . The 7 books were removed, because Martin luther didn't want those books because these mentioned about PRAYING FOR DEAD SOULS ! FYI- Martin luther had fell in love. A catholic priest salary is pittance. Today they get 7500 to Rs 10000 as salary per month. So probably, doubting Martin's financial integrity, his Bishop did not allow Martin to sell Indulgences for 3 consecutive years. Martin then protested and went about saying there is no purgatory and the church is corrupt ! If the church was corrupt , the church of England would have not been formed. King Henry, the VII was influential, rich and powerful, he could have easily got the permission to marry another woman. Please ponder

[@MarkMetternichPhotographyLLC]

Doug, I know that you will gel with this statement, but God spoke to me about a year ago and said "ME, a perfect God, can work PERFECTLY though all imperfection." This blew my mind and was a paradigm shift about all the cerebral things we try to figure out. God is beyond the limitations of our totally imperfect world. God wins with ease!

[@aliciabarnett4337]

Mark Metternich Photography, LLC amazing!

[@pepsininja34]

It's all right in front of you....below you, first was above you.

[@clive3490]

Someone should tell the Ancient Chinese that they were wiped out by a global flood because they don't seem to have noticed

[@clive3490]

@john joyce they know what better than anyone?

[@clive3490]

@john joyce Really? No one seems to have told them. And their recorded history is uninterupted

[@hannahalice1000]

@john joyce Where did they say that that were wiped out by a global flood?

[@clive3490]

@john joyce "Are you sure their history was uninterrupted without any interruption. " WHEN were they destroyed by a flood? When did they write specificly about a flood that kiiled every single person in the entire continent of Asia leaving not a single chinese person. The writing left by the ancient chinese do not mention this event at all.

[@clive3490]

@john joyce I did, and no where does it say the ancient chinese were destroyed by a global flood and repopulated by people from the west

[@Auggies1956]

We look at these learned scholars as being the all keepers of knowledge but dont consider just where they got their thesis from and if it was correct.

[@zwoterkorinther7194]

Well said, Mostly the critical statement to the bible show a wrong path. The funny thing about it: it doesnt matter at all and doesnt change anything about the time. Because the overall years they lived are both the same in all origin manuscripts. So why is that critic so important, when it doesnt change anything? It just seems like a deception.

[@i7Qp4rQ]

@@zwoterkorinther7194 Check the link provided above: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHqUqoWKeJuefac I did not quite catch you, are you saying that +650 added years from ~6000years of history (Age of Earth) to ~6650 isnt there or doesnt matter ? The link has actually some jewish theologians using argument from MT against Jesus being messiah, so it seems to matter a lot...?

[@OldManMontgomery]

Therein I think is the problem. The thesis of 'young Earth' comes from 'back then' and is accepted by some as if it were Scripture. No one seems to look for any other answer.

[@lisagrace6471]

​@@OldManMontgomerysorry, I'm new to this study. You mean "young earth" as in the creation story... even if it is the septuigint timeline?

[@OldManMontgomery]

@@lisagrace6471 Yes, you have it right, or at least on the right track. The 'young Earth' theory is the traditional idea that the Hebrew text normally called Genesis is 'word for word' literally. 'Old Earth' theory is the idea of the cosmologist explanation of the Universe, with the Universe being close to fourteen billion years old and the Earth being around four and one half billion years. I'm a serious Christian and Bible student. I have no doubt as to the existence of God and Him as the ultimate power and director (for lack of a better word) in this Universe and all other existences known or unknown. However, I do not believe the text of Genesis presents the 4004 BC creation date - which was determined by James Ussher, Archbishop of Armagh (Church of Ireland).

[@jacoba4669]

From the matter discussed here it is seen that the genealogy in Genesis 11 is wrong with respect to the MT manuscript. In present day transalation in English of the Bible people are quick to segregate the long ending of Mark, the woman caught in the act of adultery in John and other verses. Any idea why no changes is made in the genealogy in Genesis 11 to correct it?

[@alexanderv7702]

Did the original Septuagint only contain the first Five Books of the Old Testament; what is called the Pentateuch?

[@yakovpopov2568]

Egyptian, Chinese, Persian, Vedic, and other middle eastern cultures have no recorded history of the flood . it seems they didn't notice that they all drowned.

[@yeshualionofjudah7107]

Yakov Popov civilizations all over the world record a flood.

[@zaharishtonov]

There are over 130 records of the global flood from all over the world. The Biblical text is the most consistent and most accurate, as the other texts were just a word of mouth, but they are there. And like Steve Shepherd said above, the old Chinese alphabet contains the record in itself. In fact it contains a whole lot of information about creation including Adam and Eve. There is plenty of info about that here on KZbin.

[@MrBcuzbcuz]

Steve Shepherd Explain just one little point for me. If all the cultures you mention, (Indians, Sumerians, Egyptians, Amer-Indians and Peruvians) have historical accounts of a universal flood.....where did these people come from....in order to have stories about a flood??? If Noah had himself and seven other people on board his boat.....somewhere around 4,500 to 5,000 years ago, and every other living thing was wiped out by the flood, how did people (civilizations) like the Peruvians, get to Peru....in order to have stories to tell? How did the Egyptians keep on building pyramids after the flood if they all got wiped out by the flood? How did Sumerian clay tablets, written before the flood, exist after the flood? Wouldn’t those clay tablets turn back into mud? Wouldn’t the symbols written on the clay (mud) tablets have been smeared or wiped out by laying under water for a year? I have seen and studied those clay tablets and the stories on them. And the symbols are clear and readable. I have seen and studied the texts of ancient Egyptian written and painted on grave walls and they are still readable. Even the colours of the ink are clear and every symbol clear enough to read and understand. Why didn’t the paints get washed away by the flood?

[@MrBcuzbcuz]

Zahari Shtonov Sorry, but your understanding of those supposed records is sadly misinformed. You say the other stories are just by word of mouth. Who do you think wrote about the flood? Do you think Noah wrote them? Do you know the oldest books of the old testamet were written around 600 years before the birth of Christ?. That is a long, long time after Moses and even a longer time after Noah. Sorry,but the bible stories are simply ”word of mouth”.

[@zaharishtonov]

@@MrBcuzbcuz - Hey Ric, the Pentateuch (the first five books in the Bible) was written by Moses and there is no doubt about that. All five books were dictated to him by God himself. If you do not believe in that, then you are the one who are sadly mislead by the worldly powers at hand... The Biblical record as a whole has been under attack for a long time now (close to 200 years). By "cleverly" devised stories with little to no science, modern science operates on many many assumption when meanwhile the evidence is there, visible to all. And before you go to "show me that evidence", I can tell you, it's not about the evidence, but what you do with it. Steve Shepherd is right up there stating all the facts from the Chinese letters. I've seen lectures myself, much more extensive than just one example and a few sentences. Their whole alphabet (the ancient one) is full with Biblical evidence. It is all true! Also, you are mislead on the dates when the Flood happened and modern science is in general confused about Egyptian history. They are misplacing all of the events at the wrong dates including the Flood and also the Exodus. I recommend you to watch the series from "Patterns of Evidence". You could either rent them. or some of the films are available on Tubi for free. Also look for "Is Genesis History" either here on KZbin or order the documentaries for more scientific information. Cheers!

[@kenmcnutt2]

After Noah's Flood, all the marsupials swam to Australia.

[@pauleveritt3388]

NOTHING in the Bible says that ALL animals were created by the time Adam and Eve were expelled from the Garden of Eden. A question I like to ask is what did God do on the 8th day.

[@mikefruge8589]

They must have lost their gills once they got there!

[@hannahalice1000]

@@mikefruge8589 But . . . but . . . but . . . that would mean that evolution is true!

[@hannahalice1000]

@@pauleveritt3388 What does that have to do with Noah's flood?

[@pauleveritt3388]

@@hannahalice1000 People claim that kangaroos HAD to be on the ARK. NOTHING in the Bible says that ALL animals were created by the time Adam and Eve were expelled from the Garden of Eden..

[@Josdamale]

According the Septuagint dating system, this year (beginning last September) is about 7528 years since Adam.

[@Josdamale]

@Tim Vesper The Hebrew dating system had two types of new year. The royal secular one began on 1 Tishri approximately September, and the priestly new year began on 1 Nisan, approximately March. Since Jesus is the Messiah or Christ, which means the anointed King of Israel, his new year and ministry officially began in Tishri. Furthermore, the Christians confirmed the date of celebrating Pascha at the First Ecumenical Council in 325, and since then the Julian Calendar became the official calendar of the whole Christian Church and eventually of the Roman empire. Thus, instead of the Hebrew Babylonian Tishri, the Christians universally used September as the equivalent. Most Christians had been doing so for centuries already. The Julian Calendar combines both the cycles of the moon and sun in one mathematical system where the years are the same number of days, and differ only in leap years, every 4 years, by one day. Nevertheless, the Septuagint Bible is the Jewish Greek translation of the OT, and it agrees with the Samaritan Bible, which has an independent textual history from the Greek and Masoretic Bible, on the dates used in Genesis that give more years before the Flood than does the Masoretic text. Thus, in terms of this LXX dating system, which is considered by most scholars as probably the original dates in Genesis, this current year would be 7528 since Adam. The Romans continued to use this dating system until the fall of Constantinople in 1453, and then the Russians continued it for several centuries thereafter. It remained the Calendar of the Roman Orthodox Church until the 20th century, when some Orthodox Churches for all intents and purposes adopted the Gregorian Calendar. You will find it in everyday use today on Mt Athos in Greece, which also counts the hours of the day from sunset to sunset.

[@snowyvandyk7193]

Could somebody help me with the dating via the ice cores. How accurate etc.

[@danielbower1679]

There are many storms throughout the year, the core layers are not annual. Check out WW 2 aircraft buried at great depth and distance such as glacier gal.

[@thomasdykstra100]

@@logicalatheist1065 , your unreasoning, dismissive attitude cancels the value of ANY comment you may express. Your mocking opinion is a waste of mental activity relative to the request that was made by "Snowy van Dyk".

[@cancerfour69er]

Sounds like someones fitting Dates to make a Story they want you to here!!!

[@fredray40]

someone is...dates....hear

[@fredray40]

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[@nicerperson1]

@@fredray40 Standards of literacy have really dropped since the time of Moses.

[@mitchellc4]

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has ab God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!

[@mitchellc4]

cyoungrun1 And please list the verses from these three times??????? No Jesus didn’t use Exodus 3 in John 8 Jesus said before Abraham was born “ego eimi” which means I am he Multiple people say ego eimi in the New Testament, but you’re not saying they are God? The blind man who was healed said it John 9 9 Some said, “It is he”; others said, “No, but he is like him.” He said, “I am the man.” I am the man= ego eimi The blind man just said ego eimi, did he just refer to Exodus and claim to be God?? Of course not I believe in the Greek translation of Exodus it says “Ego eimi HO ON” Tell them “HO ON” has sent you (I Am has sent you) Had Jesus said HO ON you may have a point, but he didn’t

[@daniels4338]

11:10-12:20 using the wisdom of men to undermine the authority of God's preserved word (MT, foundation for the OT in the KJB). God will use the foolish to confound the wise, and a man without faith and spiritual discernment will obviously be unable to *ever* come to the knowledge of the truth.

[@zwoterkorinther7194]

Thank you, thats what i thought. Even though we should not think that all other manuscript or translation are wrong, it is the scientist that said himself that one manuscript must be wrong and wrote about the critics of scripture. I looked for the difference and was astonished to see that there is none! No bible has ever written 130 instead of 30 years at all! That shows that this idea is modern and wrong. Furthermore it is only the birthyear that would change. The whole lifespan would not change, so that it would be max. 100 years time they would win by this hypothesis. It is just nonsense. But apart from that it is interesting that the method goes until 1400 bc. That should not make us change the data of the bible but give us a hint to see beyond the scientific arguments of these days.

[@allwillberevealed777]

Masons gave you the KJB.

[@jaypearce6743]

How does the flood, 3108 bc, fit into hustory?

[@ws775]

The age of the pyramids fit into the timeline as being built after the flood.

[@SionSheva5756]

The 12 Deuterocanonical Books in Septuagint: 1 Ezra*, Judith*, Tobit*, 1 Maccabees*, 2 Maccabees*, 3 Maccabees*, 4 Maccabees*, Odes*, Wisdom of Solomon*, Sirach*, Psalms of Solomon*, Baruch*

[@bobbymac1947]

"How and when did civilizations arise after Noah's Flood? " I would like to know much more of the civilizations before the flood.......

[@justabill5780]

There was no worldwide flood! Egyptian civilization was around before the supposed flood, continued DURING the supposed flood, and continued after the supposed flood. And it didn't miss a beat. Nor did the Egyptians notice.

[@justabill5780]

@cyoungrun1 : Were you an eyewitness? We so have eyewitness accounts of that time in history. And not one left an account of a worldwide flood. And every branch of science absolutely shows such an event never happened or is impossible. We know the history of the flood story. There was a localized flood that was mythologized. And then plagiarized by the bible writers.

[@justabill5780]

@cyoungrun1 we DO know.

[@justabill5780]

@cyoungrun1 : HAHAHAHA!!!! There's history of cultures going back at least 6 thousand years!! Are you insane? There is ZERO evidence that a worldwide flood occured. And many fields of science show it COULD NOT have occurred.

[@thegoat3109]

@@justabill5780 tell that to the Grand Canyon lol

[@goodmorning6827]

Noah? Are you kidding? What about Little Red Ridinghood, the easter bunny, Humpty Dumpty and the big bad wolf?

[@mitchellc4]

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has ab God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!

[@canadiankewldude]

Love the video however, that wiggly screen used to attract watchers gives me a headache. I had to listen as radio and remove that jiggling screen.

[@jayjackson597]

the question put forth in the title of this video is not covered in the video, I enjoyed the video, but can you answer my question about the title? in the future I may be hesitant to watch any more content from this channel if the title does not accurately describe the content. I am also confused as to why there are not any other comments to this issue

[@raydal]

A video or book or article doesn't have to answer the question posed in its title. They discussed the question but the answer is "nobody knows the exact date". That is not deceptive at all.

[@joncoley8894]

The Septuagint was good enough for Jesus. It’s good enough for me.

[@Heckle174]

Septuagint is Origin's text out of Alexandria, Egypt... corrupted. It's the foundation of modern perversions of the Bible with so many contradictions and false doctrines.

[@user-xs5xz3vp6u]

@@Heckle174 Lies and Slander .

[@Heckle174]

@@user-xs5xz3vp6u I guess the sky is a different colour to you. Reality is reality.

[@larrybedouin2921]

​@@Heckle174 That is not the only textual variant of the Greek Bible.

[@Heckle174]

@@larrybedouin2921 Yip, but any variant of the critical text is an absolute mess with contradiction and error. They can't even agree among themselves let alone their own beloved papyrus. (Bodmer II P66 a LOVELY example)

[@ipsissimus7378]

Imagine how much better the world could be if all the energy and thought expended on stuff like this was instead used on something productive.

[@aaronhepler8070]

Way to do your part...

[@Matthias53787]

Like restoring our genome so we can live to pre-flood lifespans? Would that be useful?

[@ipsissimus7378]

@@Matthias53787 Why would attempting to recreate the Bronze Age fantasies in the old testament be usefel?

[@ipsissimus7378]

@WMLouisiana Nope, I like being a tourist in the 12th century...

[@Matthias53787]

@@ipsissimus7378 because it would be pretty fantastic...

[@andybillingham6932]

Does the 650 additional years of the LXX mean the time from the creation of man till now is 650 years longer? Resulting in us living near 6700 years since creation?

[@NathanH83]

Yes

[@omarschez4706]

We should remember that all other languages were created for that same reason "confusion" Therefore, we should ignore all other translations and stick to the Hebrew; After all, Elohim is the "Elohei of the Hebrews" and not of the Arameos nor the Greeks. (EX 3:18,Ex 5:3, Ex 7:16, Ex 9:1 and Ex 10:3) This is pretty clear and blunt.

[@Jeremiah6071]

Radiometric dating is a great tool based on sound science, but it's far from perfect. As of now, it is the best scientific way to determine the age of an object. Of course that doesn't make it right. There are a number of problems with dating objects using this method, but you have to work with the tools you have. I just wish scientists were more honest about the reliability of their claims and didn't push their beliefs as undisputed facts.

[@rotaryenginepete]

LXX is more reliable/accurate than Masoretic.

[@timwatson559]

You should try contacting Hebrew scribes and ask them what the skipping of letters means. I’ll give you a clue, it’s the only book in the world that has that particular characteristic

[@christianpatriot7439]

Differing traditions regarding the ages of the Patriarchs could be the result of confusion over the measurement of time itself. We know from both written records and artifacts that the earth has not always had 24 hour days or solar years of 365.25 days. The Old Testament suggests that the solar year at the time of Noah's Flood was only 360 days. So, could the post-Flood record keepers have been using a mix of both pre and post-Flood calendars?