Ishapore 2A1 Rifle - Last Of The Bolt Actions

[@carolcarola9719]

I was glad to hear you talk about the rear lugs. You are the only one to mention that aspect.

[@aaronhrk]

I travelled to Nepal in late 2013, and was fascinated to see local police (of which there were a great many, as general elections were being held) carrying Ishapore 2A1's patrolling the streets of Kathmandu and providing security outside a bank in Namche Bazaar. I asked if I could take some pictures of the rifles, but was given a polite & firm no... I decided not to push my luck, as tensions were pretty high at the time! I have to admit that it was pretty cool to see these firearms still in service :-) Thanks again for another great vid Misha.

[@ozarkbeararms8840]

If you think about it, the 2A1 is a younger firearm than the AR15/M16 or AK47/AKM haha.

[@aaronhrk]

Good point! :-D

[@johny_baba]

Great Video,Misha! Have my upvote from India.

[@johny_baba]

Oh btw,It is not 'Ish-a-pore' but 'Ichha-pur',giving you correct pronunciation of Ishapore.

[@ozarkbeararms8840]

Thank you for watching, cheers.

[@ethan5.56]

Just scooped up a 1965 Ishapore 2A yesterday. Going to take it out and shoot it this afternoon. Been wanting one for a while and finally scored one. Great video as always

[@kellens2031]

Seriously, Misha man I do love the videos you put out. Enjoy your history lessons on various weapons and accessories. Have really helped me get into import history of firearms and general history of development as a whole. Keep on posting!

[@ozarkbeararms8840]

Thanks much for watching, cheers.

[@InugamiTheHound]

oh man what a awesome enfield rifle. I've always wanted one of these. Great video

[@ozarkbeararms8840]

Thank you for watching.

[@behindenemylines3361]

It took me awhile but I finally got one

[@pixelpanache]

Skennerton's big The Lee Enfield book, I believe, mentions that the wood furniture used to build the Ishapore 2A and 2A1 was taken off of old No 1 mark III rifles. All of the 2A and 2A1 rifles that I've seen have a big screw through the handguard from side-to-side a few inches forward of the magazine. This is called an 'Ishapore screw' and serves as a reinforcement. Normal .303 rifles don't have the screw, although I have seen it on a few. I just recently found your channel and I've been enjoying your videos. I appreciate the work that went into them; thank you!

[@stukafaust]

That makes sense regarding the recycled wooden furniture, the one I fired had some markings S^A on the butt stock

[@warmachine_1396]

I bought mine for 99.00 from Aim Surplus years ago with stock repairs. It functioned great.

[@reddog1ish]

Another great video! Thanks for sharing.

[@emoryzakin2576]

Just picked one up should have figure misha would have a video! Thanks for the content brother I love this thing!

[@ghostdog1581]

Good info, I have a 1973 2A1. Thanks!

[@ozarkbeararms8840]

Thanks for watching, and yours is one of the later dated ones that I've heard of. I think i recall some running up til 1974-1975? but could be misremembering.

[@RDCards]

Please do more videos on the Ishapore rifles. Like to see the different types.

[@johnnym5564]

Always love your videos. Just got mine today. What ammo do you recommend?

[@warmachine_1396]

I miss my 2a1. : (

[@kennethhamby9811]

Me two x2 (yeah I goofed twice).

[@bighanks1263]

Mishaco, your videos are great thanks for all this information!! I know this is not the subject of this video but, I have a Arsenal SLR107fr and I’m thinking about having Rifle Dynamics upgrade it. I just wanted run it by you and see what you think.

[@mtbbtk3030]

I've got a 2A1 jungle carbine chambered in .308,my question is what's the value differences in these rifles??

[@mtbbtk3030]

Mine is a 1968

[@Apolloneek]

Like to sell ?

[@tylerroehl11]

What ammo do you like to use with the 2A1? Would .308 Ball be good for it?

[@R3D_R0CK3T-5]

I have 308. for my 2A1 and I've heard that it's best to use 7.62x51, I've had no problems with 308. even though it's claimed to be 10% more powerful than 7.62x51, I've shot 308. 180gr and it had no issues, but IMO I would recommend 150gr or 160gr 308. since some rifles might be getting dried out and don't want it to crack the wood, so if 180gr is only ammo available it wouldn't hurt your 2A1.

[@tylerroehl11]

@@R3D_R0CK3T-5 I've been shooting some 7.62x51 and it is shooting well. Haven't shot any 308

[@R3D_R0CK3T-5]

@@tylerroehl11 if you do, it will handle it fine

[@TheWolfElder]

You can run 308 through these?

[@Zaku2077]

Good video. I've been wanting one for a while but they are tough to come by in good condition these days!

[@ozarkbeararms8840]

Just keep looking, one will come around. There are a good number in the USA, cheers.

[@MinhVu-in9iz]

The Canadian ranger should get this model over their c19!! Who doesn’t love the enfield smooth action!! Thank you for the review!! I have the ishapore 2a, I can’t wait to take her out to the range!! I wish these rifles price wise stay the same so I can buy more but they always seems to go up in value!!

[@kennethhamby9811]

My range only went to 400yds. Rang the gong every shot , great shooters.

[@josephthomas8318]

On the topic of stronger steel I had something to ad. According to "Gun Proofing in India, A Historical Account" by A.G. Harrison former proof house master of the Ishapore rifle factory. "In 1950 the material for rifle bodies was altered from an EN steel to SWES 48 (not heat treated) except for the recoil shoulder and cam recess in the receiver. With this change rifle bodies would distort when oiled proof cartridges were fired.... ... therefore from 1950 to 1965 SMLE rifles were only proofed with the dry proof round..." And on the subject of 2A1s specifically "Thier receivers were made of SWES 48 steel and were found to distort with both the dry and oiled proof round. The receivers were changed back to EN steel and the rifles passed both the dry and oiled proof tests" Article can be found in the 33rd anniversary 1979 edition of Gun Digest

[@R3D_R0CK3T-5]

Indian police discontinued using these in February 2020, don't know what there gonna do with them or if they will be in the market but I bet the value will increase soon

[@TheCowboyfromhell87]

I have a Gibbs "jungle carbine" 2A1. Good looking carbine.

[@ozarkbeararms8840]

Thanks much for watching, cheers.

[@keiththiha]

Is it safe to chamber the no4 (a stronger action I think) in 7.62 nato?

[@Leman.Russ.6thLegion]

WHERE CAN I BUY!!!!!!!??????

[@ozarkbeararms8840]

Buy a 2A/2A1? They are long out of primary import, so you will have to check the secondary market.

[@360Prairie]

Aren't you worried that one of these days when you dry fire a gun in your house that a live round will materialize in the chamber and you'll blow a hole in your wall? Just kidding bro. Another great video. I always like watching your videos.

[@pyro-jay]

Are indian lee enfield a good gun to buy have?

[@dustyvancekatzenberger]

Great video, Misha. Do you prefer the .303 round or the 7.62 NATO round?

[@ozarkbeararms8840]

I'd have to go with 7.62, just because of that dang rim on .303. Thanks for watching.

[@dustyvancekatzenberger]

I agree. Thanks for your input.

[@michaelchen8643]

I think the ship is sailed sure it’s a British SMLEN field that is factory chambered specifically for the 3087.62×51 round which makes it reasonably affordable for someone to shoot in this modern times with this ambition availability But they’re no longer inexpensive, surplus military rifles on top of that for sporting accuracy their mediocre so they’re really just a range toy in the context of people who might want to use for something serious in North America As an inexpensive surplus rifle that ship has already sailed probably 10 15 20 years ago

[@ninjascout468]

Picked up mine today 1967 $200 👍👍

[@jeramyw]

I'll give ya $201.

[@polishmafia1550]

Interesting piece of history. Totally unrelated but my no4 top hand guard moves back and forth any way to fix this ? Is it because the wood has shrunk?

[@ozarkbeararms8840]

Without handling your rifle, I am afraid I can't help much. I am sure some fine folks on one of the Enfield and/or Milsurp boards can though, cheers.

[@kennethhamby9811]

Yes and yes, shim it

[@SacoreyRugger]

Audio was pretty quiet on this video, anyone else having trouble hearing?

[@2aEdu]

SacoreyRugger yes

[@behindenemylines3361]

Mine is a 1966 as well, back in 2021, paid 400 for it-love the gun. Sadly I had to get a 10-round magazine, since I live in commie-fornia(AKA-California )

[@kennethhamby9811]

Just block two rds with a piece of wood cut to fit.

[@behindenemylines3361]

@@kennethhamby9811 It was easier just to get a 10-rounder. CA gets real funny about blocked magazine. Didn’t want to chance it.

[@nocturnalemission6822]

Its never good to dry fire it. That could fracture the pin.

[@CaptHowdy48]

Can you direct me to a reputable dealer, I very much like to purchase two rifles?!

[@jodyspencer433]

Great video. Informative as always. I expect a lot of Enfield nuts are going to moan about referring to it as an Enfield.

[@ozarkbeararms8840]

Well it is an Enfield...so not sure what else to really refer to it as? Same classic bolt system as they were using (with minor differences of course) as far back as 1888 with the original Lee-Metford. The Ishapore factory was originally setup and managed by the British too. So they knew what they were doing. Not speaking to quality one way or other, but they did make a ton of Enfield type rifles over the decades.

[@thesketchydude1315]

no single shot .410 version? XD

[@ozarkbeararms8840]

Not in this video. Perhaps in the future though. Thanks for watching, cheers.

[@thesketchydude1315]

no problem :) (also, did you guys mean to say "Arabic numeral 3"? because that would be rather odd to see on an Indian made firearm"

[@ozarkbeararms8840]

Yes, originally, they used "No. 1 MK III" and later switched to No. 1 MK 3". Similar to what the UK did going from No. 4 MK I to No. 4 MK 2.

[@thesketchydude1315]

What I'm getting at is the Arabic part, India uses the "Hindu Script" rather than the Arabic one, closest thing to Arabic in the area is the Urdu language spoken by the Sindhi (Pakistani)

[@ozarkbeararms8840]

I think you're over thinking this a bit. The Western world uses Arabic numbers, and so India just followed suit with the later production SMLE type guns.

[@kellens2031]

Ha first comment! Lol

[@aequitas8749]

Someone please make a reproduction!

[@maxcolt4124]

Working on it mate!