*Credits:* Matt (Actor) - twitter.com/NovaCoder197 Chi (Makeup artist & Cameraman) - twitter.com/Chi2462 *Videos Used:* Content Cop - kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6PLiJ17pLeoeKM Doom 3 Macworld 2001 Tokyo - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmHKppaejdatZ5Y Making of Doom 3 - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIaVn2uLarl4sJI What if six Comes? - kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2m1g4RsotaarLs Half Life: Full Life Consequences - kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXnbqo2Xj9GUhdU Terminator (1984) Gunshop scene - kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmLLfZhup7icqJI The Thing Ending - kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXKXgK2nqZxmaZo Music / Audio Used: *Doom 1 OST:* At Doom's Gate Donna to the Rescue Facing the Spider Intermission Kitchen Ace Mouth for War Sign of Evil Suspense Sweet Little Dead Bunny The Demons from Adrian's Pen *Doom 2 OST* Adrian's Asleep Bye Bye American Pie Endgame In the Dark Into Sandy's City Running from Evil The Demon's Dead The Healer Stalks *Other Music* Deus Ex Theme Doom 3 Theme Skyrim Theme Doom 64 Theme Contra Ending theme Mario Pissing - kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXqwoYmro8toedE Evil King Bowser - Mario World Uh Oh Stinky - kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKfId2Ctmpufmac
@icyatlasartworks4 жыл бұрын
*"fuck the archviles. Fuck the archviles. FUCK THE ARCHVILES"* everyone: *cough*
@Futbyron_ES4 жыл бұрын
fuck the arch vile Fuck the arch vile FUCK THE ARCH VILE
@moppypuppy7813 жыл бұрын
*30:00* We all have our shortcomings and I'm sorry about your illiteracy, they have online classes that can teach you how to read so you don't have to worry about being made fun of for not knowing how to read at such an old age.
@samiyt85723 жыл бұрын
His name is doomish guy ya
@davidmcbride53573 жыл бұрын
Trav can you play two dlc came with BFG edition? Can you make a discord server most of gamers have discord and you can have a fan base.
@dawg96914 жыл бұрын
"What if hell itself is eternal..." Hugo: Write that down...WRITE THAT DOWN"
@beardizz3 жыл бұрын
Ayo the pizza here
@ekremsait2 жыл бұрын
666 likes
@BaxterAndLunala3 ай бұрын
Good use of a SpongeBob joke.
@lllXanderlll4 жыл бұрын
It's really cool that ID basically came out and said that DOOM ³ is in an alternative reality. It's also cool to see the soul cube as an Easter egg in Eternal
@SapunMan3 жыл бұрын
Also in DOOM 2016, Olivia's office.
@lllXanderlll3 жыл бұрын
@@SapunMan Yeah true !
@Archon39603 жыл бұрын
They'd just validate the fan theory at this point. X)
@moeman51223 жыл бұрын
Wait, where is it in eternal
@lllXanderlll3 жыл бұрын
@@moeman5122 On his desk in the fortress. I think it's near the old school monitor. Definitely on the desk though
@TheLonelyGoomba4 жыл бұрын
I was 13 when this game came out and ngl, I found it very scary back then. So I guess it failing as a horror is probably a side effect of the game being dated. At the time though, these were pretty much the best visuals in a game I had ever seen, which probably contributed to the scary factor.
@AJXTHEWALL4 жыл бұрын
when i was alot younger i was afriad of the LBP1 wedding stages
@Bacony_Cakes4 жыл бұрын
how did you get it running on a gba
@mizuchi-61374 жыл бұрын
It plays WAAAY better in VR
@valletas3 жыл бұрын
I think the reason is that kids are just afraight of everything I play a lot of horror games and seeing back to my early days many games i was afraid werent scary at all I dont think the game is dated silent hill is dated and its still scary
@AJXTHEWALL3 жыл бұрын
@@valletas im 13, majority of the stuff people my age think is "scary" i don't. But fear is subjective, its shaped by experiences, so take that into mind.
@reallycool5 жыл бұрын
One thing a lot of people forget is how much computing power this game demanded, and therefore wasn't even playable for a lot of people--imagine getting frame drops when it's just dark all the time. It wasn't solely HL2 that made people think this game is bad.
@ThatTravGuy5 жыл бұрын
Oh damn, I hadn't even considered that
@Mustang_Dan4 жыл бұрын
My dad went and got me more ram to "run it" when the game was released. I was 14 and this was the first pc game I waited for and got on day one. Having played Doom 1 and 2 when I was way too young on my dad's pc, I NEEDED this new DOOM. Well...I couldn't even play the damn thing it ran so bad on the shit pc my sister and I were sharing at the time lol -even WITH the additional ram. Alas with a ps4 port, I am finally playing this game 16 years later...
@satisfiction4 жыл бұрын
My friend's machine coule run it and he got it (before?) right when it came out. It was amazing.
@rahulravishankar31523 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile doom 1 running on a pregnancy test :
@DefinitelyNotATrolldier2 жыл бұрын
Yeah if my modern computer that can run GTA 4 with no optimization mods whatsoever can't handle DOOM 3 You got a big problem with Your engine.
@Wolfkaosaun5 жыл бұрын
Admittedly, DOOM 3 is a guilty pleasure of mine and I'll stay on this hill until the day I DIE
@ghostmangm30594 жыл бұрын
Personally, I think Doom 64 is better. just play with a guide, and don't play with headphones. Those two things combined will drive you insane. I still hear the baby noises.
@GratingApes4 жыл бұрын
I think doom 3 had a lot of "inspiration" from half-life and half-life got it from doom.
@creatureman56364 жыл бұрын
I feel that
@bigdaddychemster12014 жыл бұрын
Nothing to feel guilty about, Doom 3 is an awesome game. Literally the only legitimate complaint people have is that it isnt Doom 2.5
@Funnel2TV4 жыл бұрын
TBH, the only real issue i have with this game is the weapon designs and the title, doom 64 should've been doom 3, this should've had some subtitle.
@ΝικοςΣφυρης-λ7μ4 жыл бұрын
They should have used roman numerals for doom 64 *CHANGE MY MIND*
@AllknowingUnknown4 жыл бұрын
Alright I'll give it a shot. NO because not everyone can read Roman!
@ΝικοςΣφυρης-λ7μ4 жыл бұрын
@@AllknowingUnknown it's a joke dude. Even if everyone could read roman, using it for the number 64 would be ridiculous. Also how can someone not be able to read roman? Just count the lines
@AllknowingUnknown4 жыл бұрын
@@ΝικοςΣφυρης-λ7μ Fair enough. But I was joking too. I Happen to agree with the sentiment of keeping the Roman numerals.
@ΝικοςΣφυρης-λ7μ4 жыл бұрын
@@AllknowingUnknown Looks like I was the one that didn't get the joke lol
@AllknowingUnknown4 жыл бұрын
@@ΝικοςΣφυρης-λ7μ Hahaha it happens. I have whoosh moments on the regular.
@CarmeloSantosF4 жыл бұрын
I played doom when I was like 8 and it scared me shitless. Halls of the Damned still gives me the creeps to this day because it is ingrained as scary in my brain. Then Doom 3 came and oh boi it was so impressive, it was that fear again. To me it always was a horror/action game. Doom 3 will always have a special place in my heart.
@Snavels4 жыл бұрын
34:13 That's Swann, that dude who originally had the bodyguard, and who told us not to call for help
@KaptainKommissar4 жыл бұрын
I will defend Doom 3 until the day I die. That game was awesome
@aseraphim98134 жыл бұрын
Same.
@hib72954 жыл бұрын
oh it was alright
@romanez78373 жыл бұрын
Liked it more than eternal
@hib72953 жыл бұрын
@@romanez7837 tbh me too
@unknownguy86873 жыл бұрын
It's alright, a bit boring about 3 hours in but would play it again.
@gregalt34053 жыл бұрын
"and it looks like hes in a full rubber body suit." dear god, Im having doom annihilation flashbacks.
@Totally_not_a_Zaku3 жыл бұрын
thats what i also had
@starrystreams36423 жыл бұрын
The OG Doom Movie had full body suits more impressive than that.
@AydenGonzalez-r3s6 ай бұрын
@@starrystreams3642 with the costumes, i can barely see that they tried, but they did.
@satisfiction4 жыл бұрын
Doom3 was scary as fuck when it came out. Playing on full surround sound headphones on a beefy machine at 2am -- I cracked a molar in fear when that tentacle arm guy came running at me. Fucking Doom3 was legit scary.
@R739492 жыл бұрын
I played at 3:00am in my dark room, even I turn the lights off 🙄 it was Hella scary experience 😅
@fullauto86 Жыл бұрын
Playing the original with the surround sound totally changes the experiance, I wish everyone could experiance it that way with good headphones.
@hhjhj3936 ай бұрын
As a young kid the game horrified me. The dark hall ways, the monsters constantly coming out of the walls. Truly felt like I was in hell and there was no escape.
@JustinLesamiz5 ай бұрын
@@satisfiction It was and is one of the scariest games ever made. People acting like it isn't scary are just lying to sound cool on the internet. That isn't anything new.
@RugsterClaps5 ай бұрын
@@JustinLesamiz This completely. Ive argued the same with people claiming its a "bad horror game". play it in the middle of the night with the lights out and headphones up loud and say the same. people do the same with movies
@jamescarrino36965 жыл бұрын
While I haven't played Doom 3: BFG, the general consensus is that it's confused. They changed things to make it feel like the older Doom games with much higher stamina, an independent flashlight, and more ammo. However, Doom 3 was built around a survival horror principle which meant that encounters were designed under the impression that players wouldn't have tons of ammo at any given occasion. As a result, Doom 3: BFG is understood to be too easy and still not enough like a Doom game to be considered better than vanilla Doom 3.
@dejecteddotangel4 жыл бұрын
Stumbled upon this channel while looking for Doom 3 and this is exactly what I was looking for. Great job!
@mrcakesgamer92694 жыл бұрын
Huh
@Chuked3 жыл бұрын
Huh
@happyhank85713 жыл бұрын
Huh
@cqbjones48613 жыл бұрын
Huh
@ratcherluq8643 жыл бұрын
Huh
@Minisoderr5 жыл бұрын
"And my enjoyment of the game really only peaked about halfway through my 5th recording session when I went to hell."
@s.p.d.magentaranger18222 жыл бұрын
Trope: A Rare Sentence.
@paulrazvan24254 жыл бұрын
Fyi, at the time of release, besides physics, Doom 3 engine was superior to Source. One that comes to mind is the lighting and shadowing is real time in D3 while in HL2 is baked into the level. Also, why are you playing with Compressed textures
@ThatTravGuy4 жыл бұрын
The resolution of the textures were high enough that the compressed textures didn't bother Me. I only really care about uncompressed textures if the resolution is low, like in classic Doom, quake, and so on. And yeah, the lighting in D3's engine is still really impressive, even today.
@TheBrazilRules Жыл бұрын
But this just reinforces the fact that gameplay is more important, and physics serve Gameplay
@gabr1elawesome4 жыл бұрын
"My Deus Ex review in... 2021" Well, where is it. Edit: it is here
@gabr1elawesome4 жыл бұрын
@That Skinny boi thank you Bendy
@Mecha_Machinehog13 жыл бұрын
“3 months ago apparently” -CMB Turret
@dum52473 жыл бұрын
It has arrived-
@unfa003 жыл бұрын
He delivered.
@GRasputin914 жыл бұрын
This was the first Doom game I ever played and I thoroughly enjoy playing it over and over. The beginning still gets my blood pumping, the radio chatter and the ambient sounds of terror and lighting.
@leonardodavinci74254 жыл бұрын
Yup I think it's excellent! It's especially good on the Switch!
@lionocyborg60302 жыл бұрын
9:47 We still use PDAs in real life: they’re called ipads. The main difference is that an ipad PDA is less chunky than older models, much like how before the 90s and early 2000s, cellphones used to be huge. Doomguy’s PDA and Lara Croft’s one in Tomb Raider Legend actually both resemble ipads, right down to the single big button on the front and the touchscreens.
@TheStygian3 жыл бұрын
Not only that but "Betruger" also translates to Betrayer or Deceiver in German.
@R739492 жыл бұрын
My router device name is Dr. betruger 😅
@Le-Monade2 жыл бұрын
Thats pretty cool. The name Betruger has a nasty ring to it
@adamdavis17375 жыл бұрын
This game of basically fried my last gaming PC and I had to play it on the OG xbox as well as half life 2 However I still love this game to this day and will defend it till I die I also preferred the lighting and flashlight mechanics of the original verses The BFG edition That being said I don't think its the best doom game or anything I certainly enjoy the balls to the wall games as well. And I'm very highly anticipating Doom eternal
@SHADOMEGA75693 жыл бұрын
Guess your PC was Doomed at first
@adamdavis17373 жыл бұрын
@@SHADOMEGA7569 it got sent straight to hell
@Breakaway-ic5gj3 жыл бұрын
@@adamdavis1737 Did you just assume your PCs gender ? Cancelled.
@adamdavis17373 жыл бұрын
@@Breakaway-ic5gj all I know is my PC took dongles in dongle ports 👀
@z-chan9463 жыл бұрын
@@adamdavis1737 it's not too late to delete this comment. Please do
@nessdragon Жыл бұрын
The sentiment that you don't feel like a badass one-man army but a bystander witnessing a story that has nothing to do with you perfectly sums up the Doom 3 experience.
@wilhelmvonberghoff1752 жыл бұрын
The way I personally approach Doom 3 is by seeing it as a doom game except if it was realistic. You're a basic marine and not like a demigod, unlike the recent doom games. The environment was believable and Hell in this game actually felt like something dark and twisted. I also wouldn't say this game failed at doing horror because they are many moments that are downright disturbing and creepy. One detail that makes Doom 3 stand out from all of the other Doom games is its atmosphere and ambience. The sound design is impeccable and if you listen to it, it really makes you feel uneasy. It's a great alternate story of Doom and I honestly think it was very good.
@hhjhj3936 ай бұрын
One thing I always keep in mind is something can be boring and cliche to an adult, but HORRIFYING to a child. I mean to me even as an adult I really don't like playing horror games, dead space was so hard for me to get through, System Shock, Bioshock, all these games just are hard for me to do, but man Doom 3 just horrified me as a kid. It genuinely felt like I was going to some hellscape nightmare. IMO making something that is horrifying to kids is a good accolade. Like this shit helped form my sense of fear so. That and Myst, Myst also absolutely horrified me as a kid.
@Larry3 жыл бұрын
Always remember getting excited about the "Duck Tape mod", which attached your flashlight to all guns, also centering it. Just a relief to actually be able to see what you were doing. Also bought a pair of Vuzix VR220 VR goggles to play it in VR, but was arse as you couldn't look up or down.
@ThatTravGuy3 жыл бұрын
Oh shit, it's Guru Larry. I've been watching your channel off and on for many years. Wild seeing you in the comments.
@stolenname943 жыл бұрын
Hey Larry 👋 big fan love seeing you everywhere across the gaming community here on yt.
@zaprowsdower39113 жыл бұрын
@@ThatTravGuy based Larry popping into other peoples channels randomly
@andersmalmgren65283 жыл бұрын
You should revisit that, one of VRs best games now. I like the SteamVR port on my Valve Index
@VaderTheWhite2 жыл бұрын
Hello, you!
@deedreaks90154 жыл бұрын
At 0:14 I was vacuuming and I thought someone was in my house yelling at me. I almost shit my pants
@Th3iLLGod2 ай бұрын
@@deedreaks9015 I’m at work. In the break room getting snacks and I swear i thought I lost my job or somthing for being a big back 😭
@nicoloenricorimoldi74255 жыл бұрын
The Doom 3 theme is just Lateralus by Tool.
@chris210racer4 жыл бұрын
Too fucking true
@bearatts4 жыл бұрын
I've always thought that
@everythingsretros44214 жыл бұрын
hhhhuuu your right
@ccshinaberry4 жыл бұрын
Like how e1m1 is master of puppets by mettalica
@everythingsretros44214 жыл бұрын
@@ccshinaberry yea also sounds like no remorse
@creatureslim3 жыл бұрын
I think the vanilla flashlight made the game more intense having to choose between seeing the environment or using weapons to fire at glowing eyes. Also smacking stuff with the flashlight was satisfying.
@JustinLesamiz5 ай бұрын
Agreed. People looking for realism in Doom are stupid. Doom Guy is running around with 7 giant guns strapped to him, and nobody has an issue with THAT. I've never understood the need for realism in a game. The truth is that the flashlight led to more pants shitting scares and some of these people were cowards that couldn't admit it.
@jayn83923 жыл бұрын
Reviewing this game from a modern standpoint is honestly kinda unfair. When it came out it was pretty well loved and a crazy technical achievement. There wasn't this idea that it needed to be just like the other Doom games yet, as people had been playing the original for years and were excited for something new. There was no shortage of action heavy fps Doom clones at the time and when this was announced and details began releasing people were stoked. I loved it when I first played it and so did everyone I knew at the time. It wasn't until years later when the ideas and game mechanics like sprinting and reloading combined with a less arcadey/speedy feel had become completely oversaturated that people started shit*ing on Doom 3 and saying it wasn't a "doom game". We had yet to hit this classic shooter renaissance that has been going on for awhile now and at the time the break from the usual formula was pretty well embraced. I think part of why people feel some sort of way about 3 is also because many people had to wait YEARS to play it because to have the proper experience you needed a serious pc and pc gaming was much more niche. And by then there were a bunch of games that felt pretty simmilar. That, or they weren't off the bottle even when the game released. Idk, I loved it back in the day and have always been a huge fan of the franchise. But saying that, playing it back today, especially after the release of doom 2016 and eternal, it does feel a bit standard and awkward at times. But at the time it was quite fresh and THE pc game for serious players. Even with the release of Half Life 2 it was much more beloved than it is today and not that controversial.
@ThatTravGuy3 жыл бұрын
The idea of there already being a ton of fast-paced FPSs and Doom 3 trying to be more unique is an interesting way of looking at it that I hadn't considered.
@JustinLesamiz5 ай бұрын
You're a 100% spot on. Those of us were actually there remember all of this.
@supermegabenji1026 Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: They made an Entire Movie based of this Game called 'DOOM' (2005) With No Demons, Story Feels similar to doom 3 a bit, No Doomguy and Dwayne Rock Johnson is in the Movie.
@JustinLesamiz5 ай бұрын
It didn't have the same story at all... It was clearly INSPIRED by this game but that's all.
@supermegabenji10265 ай бұрын
@@JustinLesamiz I mean, In the Game Sarge gets the BFG just like the movie. So The Story is a bit similar. But not all the same.
@VaderTheWhite5 жыл бұрын
It's more than possible to not save that one guy. If you push another button, which I did by accident the first time, he dies a fairly hilarious death
@donthasslethehoff50484 жыл бұрын
Is that a fucking MAP flag in your pfp?!
@VaderTheWhite4 жыл бұрын
@@donthasslethehoff5048 Nope, trans pride version of the Alliance Starbird from Star Wars.
@donthasslethehoff50484 жыл бұрын
@@VaderTheWhite Sorry, I mixed it up with the MAP pattern.
@VaderTheWhite4 жыл бұрын
@@donthasslethehoff5048 it's okay and I just realized what you meant and eeeeeeew, no, I despise pedophiles!
@ythunderboy86944 жыл бұрын
@@VaderTheWhite Nice
@UnabridgedGamer Жыл бұрын
To be fair, judging the merits of the horror genre by Doom 3 is like judging all sandwiches by consuming McDonalds.
@ColonelSandersLite Жыл бұрын
@8:10 "Actually, that's a good point. Who does this game even appeal to?" That throwaway line? IMHO, it's actually the very core problem with doom 3. It's a survival horror lite mixed with a corridor shooter all wearing the doom logo. As far as whether or not it's a decent survival horror type game, I can leave that judgement up to people that like those genres more than I do. It's just a fundamentally lousy doom game though. To be blunt, if they did not use the doom title, I do think it would have gotten a fairer shake. The doom title did help them market the game, but it marketed the game to the wrong crowd and set expectations in the wrong places.
@Trankser3 жыл бұрын
22:09 is my most favorite part. It always cracks me up into laughing.
@JoneBone-zv1kr4 жыл бұрын
You were actually right about the multiverse thing and how hell is the same for each universe. Doom eternal confirms this
@supermegabenji10269 ай бұрын
This game is a message from the developers telling us what DOOM is suppose to be..Or originally wanted to be. Scary, Horror, and Mysterious kinda like what happened in Half-Life when the Disaster happened in Black Mesa of how "The Horrors of Black Mesa." with all the Dead scientist and monsters roaming around the Lab.
@zzjopr4 жыл бұрын
" You fell for the zombie friend prank!" *BANG*
@chococheez04 жыл бұрын
I really liked Doom 3, but it definitely didn't feel like any other Doom game.
@BasedDoomSlayer2 ай бұрын
What a lot of people don't realize is that DOOM 3 is what John Carmack and id Software wanted to originally make with DOOM 1 and DOOM 2, but the technology was not available at the time to make it happen, but when the technology did become available, they finally made the DOOM game they wanted to always make. DOOM 3 is actually still my favorite survival horror first-person shooter game ever and my favorite horror game of all time. To me, its the perfect horror game and it does everything a horror game needs to do, with no drawbacks. It's a great classic game. To this very day, there is still nothing quite like it. When DOOM 3 (2004 survival horror first person shooter) came out in 2004, it set a new bar in the game industry with brand new innovations, standards, technologies, concepts, and ideas that were never seen before, that majorly influenced and changed the game industry forever, and which all future first person shooter games, horror games, and games in general, would proceed to follow and be inspired from, and continue to do so to this very day. DOOM 3 was considered to be a very technologically advanced game for its time, that used technologies, concepts, techniques, and ideas, which were never seen before prior to it's release, which inspired all future games in general. DOOM 3 had such a major impact on the game industry, that many of the games that came out after DOOM 3, would have either never existed, or would have been drastically different from what they turned out to be, if it were not for DOOM 3 existing. DOOM 3 was an absolute technological marvel when it first released, and it was the most technologically advanced game ever made at the time of release in 2004, shoulder to shoulder with Half-Life 2 (GOTY). Critics praised the graphics of DOOM 3, which included realistic textures for floors and ceilings. DOOM 3 used the id Tech 4 game engine (Which was a brand new engine at the time and DOOM 3 was the first game to ever use it), and the id Tech 4 game engine was later licensed to other developers, who were interested in using it, due to how cutting edge and advanced it was, and what the technology/capability of the engine would allow them to create in their games. DOOM 3 was both a critical and commercial success, selling over 3.5 million copies in 2004 alone. (As of November, 2024, DOOM 3 has obviously sold millions upon millions of more copies, since the year of 2004). DOOM 3 was the best and most awarded horror game of 2004 (and was actually the 3rd most awarded game of that year entirely, only being beaten out by Half-Life 2 and Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas for the Game of the Year award), and DOOM 3 actually beat both Half-Life 2 (GOTY) and Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas in 4 categories and won four (4) awards: Best Art Dir…Engine, Best Sound Effects, Best Sound Editing in a Game Cinema, and Best Lighting/Texturing, while also being nominated for many other awards as well. DOOM 3 was easily the best looking game in 2004, and was the 3rd Most Awarded Game of 2004 according to the National Academy of Video Game Trade Reviewers, where it won 4 awards over every other game released for 2004, including BEST Art Dir…Engine, BEST Lighting/Texturing, BEST Sound Editing in a Game Cinema, and BEST Sound Effects. That means that in terms of lighting/texturing, art direction/engine, sound editing in a game cinema, and in sound effects, DOOM 3 was the most advanced/best game of 2004, unmatched in those aspects by anything else released at the time. Only two games in 2004 got more awards than DOOM 3, which were Half-Life 2 (GOTY) and Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, which won 5 awards, opposed to DOOM 3, which won 4 awards. As of November, 2024, DOOM 3 on Metacritic has a rating of 87/100 for the PC version, and 88/100 for the Xbox version, which shows that on average, it's critically considered a great game overall. DOOM 3 and id Software deserve a lot of credit in what they have achieved and what they have inspired, and continue to achieve and inspire to this very day. A lot of your favorite games that came out after DOOM 3, may have never existed, or turned out drastically different, if it were not for the existence of DOOM 3 and id Software.
@deathsteak85623 жыл бұрын
I remember when I first played this game... I love the reloading sound for the assault rifle and the plasma rifle and I used to purposely shoot just so I could reload.
@DeadPixel11052 жыл бұрын
The reloading sound for the Plasma Rifle is just so good. One you slap in the new plasma canister and hear that little electronic sound climbing in pitch like the weapon is powering up. *Muah* Chef's kiss.
@MRdeLaat Жыл бұрын
lol me too about the plasma rifle, that sound at the end was nice
@PsYDaniel3 жыл бұрын
Doom 3 was good if you look at it not as the "Doom slayer slaying demons" but a normal marine trying to survive.
@iwushsjejjdhdbdhdhdhdh Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's why doom 3 sucks.
@BallsOfSteelCockoflead Жыл бұрын
@@iwushsjejjdhdbdhdhdhdhdoom 3 doesn't feel like a doom game, but more like a horror game. That's why I don't like it
@JustinLesamiz5 ай бұрын
That's what Doom is SUPPOSED to be. You were never supposed to be an ultimate badass. That's the big thing 2016 and Eternal got really really wrong, and it sucks the tension out of them.
@hijous3 ай бұрын
@@JustinLesamiz play other horror game then. doom is not that.
@BasedDoomSlayer2 ай бұрын
@@JustinLesamiz True. What a lot of people don't realize is that DOOM 3 is what John Carmack and id Software wanted to originally make with DOOM 1 and DOOM 2, but the technology was not available at the time to make it happen, but when the technology did become available, they finally made the game they always intended for DOOM to be. While DOOM ETERNAL is currently my favorite DOOM game (and currently my favorite game of all time, but we will see what happens with DOOM: THE DARK AGES when that comes out), DOOM 3 is still my favorite survival horror first-person shooter game ever, and my favorite horror game of all time. To me, DOOM 3 is the perfect horror game and it does everything a horror game needs to do, with no drawbacks. It's a great classic game. To this very day, there is still nothing quite like it. When DOOM 3 (2004 survival horror first person shooter) came out in 2004, it set a new bar in the game industry with brand new innovations, standards, technologies, concepts, and ideas that were never seen before, that majorly influenced and changed the game industry forever, and which all future first person shooter games, horror games, and games in general, would proceed to follow and be inspired from, and continue to do so to this very day. DOOM 3 was considered to be a very technologically advanced game for its time, that used technologies, concepts, techniques, and ideas, which were never seen before prior to it's release, which inspired all future games in general. DOOM 3 had such a major impact on the game industry, that many of the games that came out after DOOM 3, would have either never existed, or would have been drastically different from what they turned out to be, if it were not for DOOM 3 existing. DOOM 3 was an absolute technological marvel when it first released, and it was the most technologically advanced game ever made at the time of release in 2004, shoulder to shoulder with Half-Life 2 (GOTY). Critics praised the graphics of DOOM 3, which included realistic textures for floors and ceilings. DOOM 3 used the id Tech 4 game engine (Which was a brand new engine at the time and DOOM 3 was the first game to ever use it), and the id Tech 4 game engine was later licensed to other developers, who were interested in using it, due to how cutting edge and advanced it was, and what the technology/capability of the engine would allow them to create in their games. DOOM 3 was both a critical and commercial success, selling over 3.5 million copies in 2004 alone. (As of November, 2024, DOOM 3 has obviously sold millions upon millions of more copies, since the year of 2004). DOOM 3 was the best and most awarded horror game of 2004 (and was actually the 3rd most awarded game of that year entirely, only being beaten out by Half-Life 2 and Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas for the Game of the Year award), and DOOM 3 actually beat both Half-Life 2 (GOTY) and Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas in 4 categories and won four (4) awards: Best Art Dir…Engine, Best Sound Effects, Best Sound Editing in a Game Cinema, and Best Lighting/Texturing, while also being nominated for many other awards as well. DOOM 3 was easily the best looking game in 2004, and was the 3rd Most Awarded Game of 2004 according to the National Academy of Video Game Trade Reviewers, where it won 4 awards over every other game released for 2004, including BEST Art Dir…Engine, BEST Lighting/Texturing, BEST Sound Editing in a Game Cinema, and BEST Sound Effects. That means that in terms of lighting/texturing, art direction/engine, sound editing in a game cinema, and in sound effects, DOOM 3 was the most advanced/best game of 2004, unmatched in those aspects by anything else released at the time. Only two games in 2004 got more awards than DOOM 3, which were Half-Life 2 (GOTY) and Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, which won 5 awards, opposed to DOOM 3, which won 4 awards. As of November, 2024, DOOM 3 on Metacritic has a rating of 87/100 for the PC version, and 88/100 for the Xbox version, which shows that on average, it's critically considered a great game overall. DOOM 3 and id Software deserve a lot of credit in what they have achieved and what they have inspired, and continue to achieve and inspire to this very day. A lot of your favorite games that came out after DOOM 3, may have never existed, or turned out drastically different, if it were not for the existence of DOOM 3 and id Software, which includes the newer DOOM games: DOOM (2016), DOOM ETERNAL, and the upcoming DOOM: THE DARK AGES. Credit needs to be given where credit is due.
@amy_grace Жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone's arguing that Doom 3 has aged super well, but this idea that it got some kind of lukewarm reception on release is straight-up revisionist history. I was a whole entire adult in 2004, and bought Doom 3 with money from my actual job, and it scared the shit out of me and my roommates. It has an 87 on Metacritic. Retcon that, kiddies.
@ThatTravGuy Жыл бұрын
I'm going by the accounts of people I'm close to who were adults at the time. I admit, I was unfair on Doom 3, but nothing here is revisionist.
@SuperfieldCrUn3 жыл бұрын
The "To Kill the Cyberdemon: Shoot it until it dies" thing was an entirely fan-made meme. It was done to mock gaming magazines of the time that would often feature obvious or unhelpful advice. It wasn't even acknowledged in the Doom series proper until Doom 2016 named an achievement after the meme.
@cheafmin13994 жыл бұрын
Like how it was confirmed that it was a different universe with 16 and eternal's releases.
@ryancole40154 жыл бұрын
The cut dialog about 6th and 7th dimensions?
@thevenomspino4 жыл бұрын
We don't know why but the line "OH HE'S SKYRIM NOW" makes us laugh so hard.
@JustinLesamiz5 ай бұрын
Us??
@guillermobiasini37553 жыл бұрын
Yesterday I finished this game for the first time on my switch. I really like it. The horror feels like "haunting mansion" horror, which I am ok with. The biggest and pretty much only flaw in my experience is the lack of enviroments. Until you reach Hell (which is almost at the end of it), the game's levels feels very samey. Other than that, it is a great experience at a great value.
@fullauto86 Жыл бұрын
It actually plays good on switch, it’s like the 2nd or third game I got when I got a switch lite. Doom 3 on the go is wonderful, w Quake 2 remaster is also awesome on switch, other than that it’s not much good for anything else lol.
@alienatedpoet17664 жыл бұрын
So many things that happened in Doom 3. You even said it feels like a proof of concept or a tech demo. I felt the same. I still haven't beaten doom 3 BFG. Even with the re-release I will still call Doom 3, the Quake 4 beta.
@leonardodavinci74254 жыл бұрын
Doom 3 is incredibly fun especially if you play it on the Switch!
@TheFalconlazer4 жыл бұрын
I actually liked Doom 3 more than Quake 4. I thought Quake 4 had too many good ideas not executed well but Doom 3 executed most of it's ideas pretty well.
@PIGselGames Жыл бұрын
Something I find funny is that the word "Betrüger" is the German word for Traitor. So Dr Betrüger is just the most obvious villain being essentially called Dr Traitor
@denifnaf5874 Жыл бұрын
Dr kleiner Probably has a small di-
@TheRealJochen5 жыл бұрын
Finally!! Just got DOOM 3 on PC yesterday
@everythingsretros44214 жыл бұрын
you got it a year ago
@villager23424 жыл бұрын
@@everythingsretros4421 yep, he did
@huey62483 жыл бұрын
i’m going to get it on pc at the next steam summer sale
@ble73303 жыл бұрын
@@huey6248 Did you get it b/c original doom 3 is on sale for $1 and bfg edition $5
@huey62483 жыл бұрын
@@ble7330 thanks for the heads up bro, i actually did get it as soon as the quakecon sale went up
@JJsiN843 жыл бұрын
This game DID scare me when I was younger. When it was new, there was nothing else quite like it.
@StealthBeeKid3 жыл бұрын
Something HIGHLY underrated about this game is the track "mars city" it's so freaking good, it combines emotional elements that we feel (or were supposed to feel anyway) in Doom 3 and Doom in general, it's a mix between suspense, horror, action, story and challenge. This track is so good in fact that Mick gordon remixed and it was going to be in Doom eternal, although due to pacing issues and the track not fitting with the level that is was supposed to play (mars core If I remember correctly) it was removed, but still is here on youtube, it's called Arriving on Mars and it's a BLAST, seriously one of the best Doom tracks ever
@factsoverfeelings1776 Жыл бұрын
It really wasn’t divisive when it came out. It was actually very well received.
@BasedDoomSlayer2 ай бұрын
Correct. It's a great classic game. To this very day, there is still nothing quite like it. It's still my favorite horror game ever. It just does everything a horror game should do. When DOOM 3 (2004 survival horror first person shooter) came out in 2004, it set a new bar in the game industry with brand new innovations, standards, technologies, concepts, and ideas that were never seen before, that majorly influenced and changed the game industry forever, and which all future first person shooter games, horror games, and games in general, would proceed to follow and be inspired from, and continue to do so to this very day. DOOM 3 was considered to be a very technologically advanced game for its time, that used technologies, concepts, techniques, and ideas, which were never seen before prior to it's release, which inspired all future games in general. DOOM 3 had such a major impact on the game industry, that many of the games that came out after DOOM 3, would have either never existed, or would have been drastically different from what they turned out to be, if it were not for DOOM 3 existing. DOOM 3 was an absolute technological marvel when it first released, and it was the most technologically advanced game ever made at the time of release in 2004, shoulder to shoulder with Half-Life 2 (GOTY). Critics praised the graphics of DOOM 3, which included realistic textures for floors and ceilings. DOOM 3 used the id Tech 4 game engine (Which was a brand new engine at the time and DOOM 3 was the first game to ever use it), and the id Tech 4 game engine was later licensed to other developers, who were interested in using it, due to how cutting edge and advanced it was, and what the technology/capability of the engine would allow them to create in their games. DOOM 3 was both a critical and commercial success, selling over 3.5 million copies in 2004 alone. (As of November, 2024, DOOM 3 has obviously sold millions upon millions of more copies, since the year of 2004). DOOM 3 was the best and most awarded horror game of 2004 (and was actually the 3rd most awarded game of that year entirely, only being beaten out by Half-Life 2 and Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas for the Game of the Year award), and DOOM 3 actually beat both Half-Life 2 (GOTY) and Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas in 4 categories and won four (4) awards: Best Art Dir…Engine, Best Sound Effects, Best Sound Editing in a Game Cinema, and Best Lighting/Texturing, while also being nominated for many other awards as well. DOOM 3 was easily the best looking game in 2004, and was the 3rd Most Awarded Game of 2004 according to the National Academy of Video Game Trade Reviewers, where it won 4 awards over every other game released for 2004, including BEST Art Dir…Engine, BEST Lighting/Texturing, BEST Sound Editing in a Game Cinema, and BEST Sound Effects. That means that in terms of lighting/texturing, art direction/engine, sound editing in a game cinema, and in sound effects, DOOM 3 was the most advanced/best game of 2004, unmatched in those aspects by anything else released at the time. Only two games in 2004 got more awards than DOOM 3, which were Half-Life 2 (GOTY) and Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, which won 5 awards, opposed to DOOM 3, which won 4 awards. As of November, 2024, DOOM 3 on Metacritic has a rating of 87/100 for the PC version, and 88/100 for the Xbox version, which shows that on average, it's critically considered a great game overall. DOOM 3 and id Software deserve a lot of credit in what they have achieved and what they have inspired, and continue to achieve and inspire to this very day. A lot of your favorite games that came out after DOOM 3, may have never existed, or turned out drastically different, if it were not for the existence of DOOM 3 and id Software, which includes the newer DOOM games: DOOM (2016), DOOM ETERNAL, and the upcoming DOOM: THE DARK AGES. Credit needs to be given where credit is due.
@mrnordpool22714 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does the marine you play as kinda look like Michael Ironside?
@esmerylan4 жыл бұрын
So the one thing I disagree with is your assessment of the shotgun. I never liked Doom 3's shotgun. It felt weak compared to the Doom/Doom II/Doom 64 versions, and the inconsistency in the number of hits it took to kill enemies was even more drastic than before. It also lacked the distance sniping precision of the old Doom shotguns, and I ended up using the machinegun for that purpose most of the time (and to take down zombies with guns). It never made sense to me that they didn't include the super shotgun in the base game and only introduced it in the expansion.
@ThatTravGuy4 жыл бұрын
Oh I totally agree (I didn't realize the specifics of how bad it was until after my review), but I think the shotgun works for what D3 is trying to be. Not saying it's great, again, I didn't care for the game much anyways
@MrOllievirus4 жыл бұрын
Lets be honest Dooms shotgun, whilst awsome, is utterly OP. Doom 3's weapons are all designed in service to the horror aspect of the gameplay. The shotgun is a high risk/reward weapon that is devestating at point blank range against imps but ineffective at range. Conversley the machinegun is better at range but takes vital seconds to down foe's. Its actually really good design. I often think that ID would of been better served not calling it Doom and changing the enviroment to a spacestation or somthing instead. I often feel that D3 has far more in common with Systemshock 2 than it does with OG doom.
@Morningstar919398 ай бұрын
@@MrOllievirusto be honest, I wonder how the game would’ve been received if it wasn’t part of the Doom series.
@doomguy62964 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding about the ending? Doom 3 is a survival horror game more than an action game. I remember finishing the game for the first time, I was so full of joy for surviving this and having rescue team reaching us after closing the portal
@neonblack2114 жыл бұрын
I actually liked the creature design in this, I thought the foreskin monster and the dude on the front cover were creepy and awesome
@twinzzlers Жыл бұрын
Foreskin monster?
@MrAnnihilatior866 ай бұрын
Oh the pinky demon? Shit does look like a foreskin
@JustinLesamiz5 ай бұрын
@@twinzzlersThe Pinky Demon
@blockyvids23 жыл бұрын
I’ve always thought of Doom 3 as a dark light attraction (with dark being an understatement). Where the intro is the waiting line where you prepare for the ride it sets up. But like an attraction, it looses some of its initial luster after going on it multiple times.
@RacingSnails643 жыл бұрын
32:33 A "fuck-me beacon." What a horrid term for a boss weakpoint. I must use it for the rest of time.
@THEVILLAIN___3 жыл бұрын
no matter what people say I will always enjoy this game and respect its efforts at becoming a doom game
@R739492 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@NonEmployee2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the fact in the thumbnail, its Gordon Freeman's hand making that shadow.
@TheGoldenBolt5 жыл бұрын
I could've sworn I'd seen this already but apparently not. Great analysis on this one!
@relieved860 Жыл бұрын
that opening skit scared the life out of me, ,=my door is facing the same direction that knock came from, absolutely terrified me
@dominictraver2 жыл бұрын
This game did it’s own thing and despite being a deviation from traditional Doom it was amazing for its time.
@peterrabb7288 Жыл бұрын
THAT PICTURE AT 5:47! I was looking for it for a long time, as I remembered seeing it once in a gaming magazine's "upcoming titles" section, and never again. But I couldn't find it, only a very bad scan of that exact issue of the magazine, so at least I could confirm that I wasn't mandela effecting myself into hallucinating that way too large HUD, but couldn't find a highres pic of it. So, thanks.
@Mckinnely Жыл бұрын
If the spider mastermind has breasts does that mean spider milk is a thing?
@ThatTravGuy Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@paulj5052 жыл бұрын
12:39 in that moment, I thought that you were wondering, how the magazines are feeding bullets to the chamber in this gun. I was always wondering about that, as this gun looks like a revolver with how the handle is placed.
@DKlett13 жыл бұрын
Betruger is such an obvious villain his name in german is on letter away from being ,,Betrayer‘‘. I‘m pretty sure the only reason his name wasn‘t just straight up Betrüger was because id had no german keyboards.
@youngthinker13 жыл бұрын
I suppose the original logo represents the in fighting between John Romero and John Carmack. Romero's the soul, and Carmack' the tech.
@tristenclark13424 жыл бұрын
doom 3 is one of my all time favorites. its a bit of a disappointment seeing as its not a tradition style game but they knocked it out of the park with what they intended for the game
@OGXenos2 жыл бұрын
To be completely honest, what dates Doom 3 the most out of anything else was the original Dead Space coming out four years later. Dead Space, of course, being basically Doom 3's concept but done perfectly and better in every way; a sci-fi space-based horror game with a heavy focus on gore, darkness, and satanic/religious imagery. Having played Dead Space 1 and 2, and then getting around to Doom 3, I can't even touch the game without thinking "Wow, Dead Space did this so much better" every minute of my gameplay.
@astrovisionmedia96775 жыл бұрын
When I first started this game I thought the monster models were pretty bad and not scary at all and didn't get why people were saying this was a horror game. Then as I really got immersed in the game I would turn a corner around the quiet facility and I would hear the screams of the monsters and spiders and I would quietly scream wishing for them to stop coming. I would cower in the corner, but they still found me, there was no safe zone. I play on my Switch handheld in my bed with headphones and this game makes me feel so scared to my core and infantile I feel like my mom is going to come in my room and tell me to stop playing video games and go to bed, and I'm a grown man.
@lewislewis3531 Жыл бұрын
Doom and Doom 2: some of the most iconic enemies of all time. Doom 3: Everything is an imp variant, hell knights are steroid imps
@stratejic10203 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say that Doom 3 failed to be scary because this game is freaking creepy, the fact that this game literally laughs at your suffering and it just thinks it's hilarious to throw you in a dark room with a demon that could pop out at any moment through the pitch black and nearly kill you in two hits.
@slyguythreeonetwonine31726 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: Before ID settled on "Doom3" a potential name considered was "Doom: Hello Darkness My Old Friend" but apparently the cost of naming it that in reference to the song was to expensive. They even had a gameplay trailer demo cut up to a dark metal slower version of the song similar to Disturbed's. So you know, explains a lot about why the game was so dark. This was something that they had been wanting to do for quite a while, you see evidence of it in lighting in levels from Doom 1 and 2. Romero even brings it back for both Sigil episodes and most likely will for "Hellan" or whatever his new Doom 2 episode will be named. Doom 64 even has it. *Source: I made it the f up! 😹😹😹😹😹😹
@bigpinkstudios4 жыл бұрын
35:40 the sarcophagus that contains the Slayer!
@QueenAnnesRevenge-s8n5 ай бұрын
Man has a habit of getting trapped in sarcophaguses
@brokenstar01711 ай бұрын
Just recently found your channel after getting into the doom franchise, and with your mention of John Carpenter’s The Thing (1982), I can’t help but subscribe. That and Mel Gibson’s Hacksaw Ridge (2016) are my two favorite movies of all time. Also, I played this game when I was still pretty new to horror media, so it shocked me a couple times, but for whatever reason, the laptop that I played it on didn’t like to have high brightness, so I ended up having to put the brightness to max and turn up the gamma which kinda ruined the ambience. I also probably let online opinions taint my own opinion on my first playthrough.
@cinnamontoastboi40174 жыл бұрын
In the beginning I legit thought i knocked something over
@calebolds96093 жыл бұрын
Identity crisis: the game Its trying to be both Doom 2016 and Dead Space before the technology before either of those DRASTICALLY different games was out
@kingbash64665 жыл бұрын
Love that your getting more ambitious with your videos.
@Symmetriad Жыл бұрын
18:12 "Doom 1 through 64" Personally, I think the series started going downhill after Doom 37.
@michaelthesanta36102 жыл бұрын
I've never heard someone act so positively over seeing hell
@serbianslav54944 жыл бұрын
22:37 Bayformers Shockwave was somewhat accurate to his G1 counterpart: 1. is a cyclops 2. has horns 3. has a cannon instead of left hand 4. is a Decepticon
@ThatTravGuy4 жыл бұрын
I suppose that's better treatment than most characters got
@LostCheese00 Жыл бұрын
Maaaan fuck anyone who hates doom 3 I watched my dad play it on his pc when I was still an ankle biter gremlin and asked my dad if I could try it he let me play it and as soon as I got to the first demon you encounter I was shittin my pants straight up spooked this games needs a remaster like an actual good remaster
@Deathstarwhite4 жыл бұрын
fun fact, there is indeed a Doom 3 Vr mod that not only allows you to play fully in vr, but also speaking alerts enemies [don't remember if true] and activates Npc dialogue by talking to them directly
@inactive19255 жыл бұрын
Holy moly! So glad I stumbled across this channel. This channel rocks! Visually pleasing and interactive. :)
@CricetoFunni Жыл бұрын
Insane how Half-Life 2 came out mere MONTHS after Doom 3 and yet looks 500x better than Doom 3 does today. Not only that, it ran much better than Doom 3 did back in the day. I hope Valve cooks up another full singleplayer game soon so we can get our minds blown again.
@marcuslindley82335 жыл бұрын
Best doom 3 review I have seen. You actually talked about the flashlight! Here is what I think of doom 3. It is very fun to play. I love it. Especially the flashlight. It's a really good Melee weapon, and You are the only horror protagonist to think of using the flashlight as a bludgeon. Doom 3 is beyond awesome. It's beyond rad. Doom 3... Is dandy. ~CGR
@j.c.b.4872 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the Doom 3 logo implies Doom "cubed," or the power of three exponent. This algebraic integer is essential in determining solutions for complex numerical problems inherent in graph theory, higher dimensional mathematics and fractal geometry; a short hand application for multi-dimensional space, including third dimensions. As such, the title is allusive (self-referential?) to three-dimensional based computer graphics, which was new to the Doom series. Convoluted summary perhaps, but I thought everyone knew this :/
@andrejhallder10162 жыл бұрын
One of best games of my childhood, I was SO scared to play some levels, SO SCARED
@cinders53053 жыл бұрын
19:10 *F O R E S K I N A B O M I N A T I O N* Im dead.
@postboysgameshack45473 жыл бұрын
Doom 3 WAS revolutionary and a technical marvel. Half Life 2 was just that much more impressive.
@BananaHoovyJ.Rabbit3 жыл бұрын
27:02 OH THERE HE IS! **Gags** ow THERE'S MY SON! WAIT WAIT NO!
@MidnightMedium4 жыл бұрын
Great take! I still forget how to do the teleportation pad thing sometimes because it's so unintuitive
@gerv5510 ай бұрын
The E3 leak was...ironically...more interesting than the final product. The final product just gave us very dated gameplay mechanics even for the day, the real stand out ones being monster closets (somehow the UAC decided to design a base with random hidden closets for imps to hide in??) and pick ups that triggered spawn ins. You basically seen all it had to offer in terms of gameplay mechanics in the first 10 or so minutes. When Half Life 2 came out a few months later Doom 3 was basically forgotten about and relegated to a really distant second place.
@Biscuit644 жыл бұрын
I picked Up Doom 3 For My Switch yesterday as well as with Doom 1,2, and 64
@leonardodavinci74254 жыл бұрын
Doom 3 is soooo good on the Switch!
@FadeToBlackOps Жыл бұрын
10:40 “If we had a bigger budget…” Didn’t the intro say the UAC has an unlimited budget? Lol
@JH248212 ай бұрын
They do, but it doesn't mean the UAC's employees get their fair share of it.
@turdgoblin61133 жыл бұрын
I absolutely adore doom 3! Pre-ordered it, upgraded my rig just to play it. Best doom ever!! I continuously return to doom 3, own multiple copies unopened and opend. Can never get enough doom 3.
@RobertJW2 жыл бұрын
Including the console commands in this video to enable widescreen in this video is absolutely goddamn heroic, you're a legend for this.
@TheJamesTheory5 жыл бұрын
Hey. Just found you from cloud connection on twitter. Just subbed! 😁
@johnkaeden2 жыл бұрын
“Whenever my power goes out I point my flashlight directly to the right of what I’m trying to look at” 🤣 I wanted to quote all the times this video made me laugh, but I’d just be transcribing the whole thing. Your sense of humor is spot on, well done!
@Vinnie_7285 жыл бұрын
Woah man, you really deserve more subs. This is almost an hour long and you still have just over 1000 subscribers
@cactusfondler99892 жыл бұрын
When I played this on release as a kid I at first thought Half-life meets Deus Ex, but when the audio logs kicked in I knew Carmack and the others were looking at System Shock 2 way too much.