Quake - Influence at a Cost | Trav Guy

[@ThatTravGuy]

Source Ports Used: Dark Places: icculus.org/twilight/darkplaces/ ezQuake: ezquake.github.io/ nQuake: www.nquake.com/ Guests: Ghristopher: twitch.tv/Ghristopher Swavo: kzbin.info twitter.com/swavoXIII Videos Used: 4:53 - Mario 64 Beaten with 0 stars 4:54 - Mario 64 Longplay - N64Archive 5:44 - Meet John Romero - One of the Godfathers of the First-Person Shooter 12:35 - Mythbusters - Toaster in Adam's Bath kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4fGf4BujsqLqKs 14:37 - QuakeWorld Launch Event 1996 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gonaZ3Whj5Kamrs 18:23 - Quake 64 Longplay kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2fMlamdgLR4aZY 19:51 - Meet the Scout kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZaxfq1mf56He7M Music Used in order: I Sawed the Demons - Doom Quake Main Theme - Nine Inch Nails Hiding the Secrets - Doom Damnation - Quake Focus - Quake Life - Quake Parallel Dimensions - Quake Dark Halls - Doom Slipgate Complex - Quake Falling - Quake 12:45 - Thunderstruck - ACDC Aftermath - Quake Hiding the Secrets - Doom fal22k_04 - Quake 3 fal22k_01 - Quake 3 Quake 64 Theme - Aubrey Hodges End of Doom - Doom Aftermath - Quake

[@carbonseven1st]

Im howling at that intro metal

[@somedorkydude6483]

Doom is 3d but limited the room stacking is acknowledged in this video here. You could not look up because of pixel shifting. Source kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIqqe4SnnbKBZ7c Not that you are going to read this but also the room stacking. Keep in mind fhis was a limitation of the time and considering the snes was still making games. Keep in mind that in doom if the levels had platforming it could actually work. But quake is still true 3d in my opinion because Id had learned to move forward with their craft

[@loopydooples]

Holy shit! He remembered, No way! but seriously tho, thanks

[@Theon3andonlyRJH]

Did you know that they actually could’ve used the y axis as it was possible, but the main goal of Doom was to try and get it on as many devices possible, that’s why Doom is able to be ported on calculators, or anything with a chip.

[@spimpsmacker6422]

The art design and feeling probably takes a lot of inspiration from how the Id team felt during the games development.

[@JeffreyPiatt]

The original plan was to make Quake a RPG/FPS hybrid the level design was inspired by there D&D game. They went back to Doom because Romero was causing the game to take too long and it was faster to make it like doom.

[@jooch_exe]

Nope, it was the typical 90's grunge + Lovecraft.

[@SeekerLancer]

One of my favorite video game arguments is which game is more historically important, Doom or Quake? There aren't many developers you can have that kind of discussion about.

[@TSotP]

Doom created the genre, quake refined it to what it always should have been (and essentially still is)

[@georgeliquor1236]

@@TSotP Quake impacted multiplayer.

[@channel5980]

It's a very hard question. Among many things, DOOM greatly improved on the seminal FPS formula of Wolfenstein, and its engine allowed for much more complex and creative level designs. It set the blueprints for FPSs for years to come. Quake 1, on the other hand, had one of the first engines that could efficiently render poligon-based 3D objects and environments. This technical prowess has been so influential that its effects are still felt to this day. Another of Q1's influential features is its multiplayer, obviously. DOOM had multiplayer too, but Quake's is much more fleshed out and with many more elements. It was so influential that it spawned standalone games dedicated solely to it.

[@connorgolsong290]

Wolfenstein created the FPS genre, Doom made it fun, Quake made it 3D, and Half Life made it engaging. This is how I see it, and I will die on this hill.

[@channel5980]

@@connorgolsong290 Interesting way of seeing it.

[@TheDanTheManShow]

That tease at the end. *That Trav Guy’s About To Make Us His B___h*

[@Wolfkaosaun]

It's all I want in life

[@likehowdudehelp]

Guy's he is that trav was gonna make us his bruh, calm down.

[@alwaysangry2232]

cant make us his b word without his friend superfly

[@blutagg63]

I want (Why do I have to say this) (I HAVE TO!?) ( I quit)

[@CricetoFunni]

bruh

[@JoneBone-zv1kr]

One time I had a dream involving quake where I found an animatronic fiend that jumped at me in the closet of a house my grandparents were renting. I was so surprised the owner of the place happened to be a quake fan and was trying to figure out why a fiend animatronic even existed

[@memes_the_dna_of_the_soul5487]

Its a monster closet man.

[@NEETKitten]

A literal monster closet

[@connorgolsong290]

It still disturbs me that this is what the Source Engine is built upon. The Quake Engine.

[@williampaabreeves]

Vast majority of modern engines trace their code back to Quakes engine, with many common engines being directly descended via Quake 3s engine, CoD for example despite all its claims of a "new engine" its still built on top of the Quake 3 engine

[@BlazingOwnager]

@@williampaabreeves CoD is the perfect example I was going to bring up. To this day it has some lines of Quake code still in there, even if it is a Ship of Theseus.

[@mopeybloke]

Goldsrc was built on Quake. Source may have reused some parts of it, but it was a pretty different engine by that point.

[@miguelbranquinho7235]

@@BlazingOwnager The Ship of Quakeus.

[@praneelpandit4665]

@@mopeybloke Yea, but the Source engine was built on top of tons of GoldSrc, not completely, but tons was, so there’s a good chance it still has lines from the Quake engine.

[@CloudConnection]

Even with my limited knowledge of Quake (I'm more of a Half-Life guy myself), I can't deny how influential Quake was for 3D first-person shooters. id really set the goalposts high for the genre with Quake, and I can appreciate that even without firsthand experience. Plus, if it wasn't for Quake, Half-Life might not have existed - so I have to be thankful for that.

[@ThatTravGuy]

Honestly the reason I'm so intrigued by Quake in the first place is because of Half Life. I initially started this retro FPS marathon so I could build up to Half Life, but when Eternal got a release date, I made Doom my focus for now. I'll get to half life some time next year.

[@CloudConnection]

I've got Quake and other retro FPSes on the mind now because I'm gonna be marathoning the Half-Life series for my channel through the rest of the year. So it's interesting to look at the groundwork that had been established before Valve put their hat into the ring.

[@JeffreyPiatt]

@@ThatTravGuy you should do Blake Stone and Rise of the Triad. There advanced games built on the Wolfenstine 3d engine. ROTT was made by Tom Hall and the Developers of Infinite Power. Tom Hall plays the final boss.

[@BlazingOwnager]

@@JeffreyPiatt If he ever does Rise of the Triad, I think he absolutely needs to reach out to Civvie11 for a cameo and some information. It's hard to get more comprehensive with that game than him, the weird little piece of FPS history it is. And Andrew Huschult's soundtrack for that is ABSOLUTELY amazing in the remaster.

[@Nicholas_Steel]

@@BlazingOwnager yep his remakes of ROTT music are fantastic kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJLbc5uKiL6ilck

[@branavankandiah9429]

I love how each of your intros are tied to what game you are talking about.

[@bl1tz533]

>tfw got a chad hooked on quake in my IT class feels good

[@OtakaraOtaku]

15:30 Yo who the heck is that scrub chef failing at that rhythm game.

[@N64Archive]

Great video as always Trav! Glad I was of assistance :)

[@Blue1011WasTaken]

Fun fact: Quake and it's sequel Quake 2 were ported to the Zeebo game console, a game console that only came out in Brazil and Mexico

[@DRN-000]

Nothing better to watch as I eat breakfast than a new Trav video on my second favorite classic shooter. I nearly spat out my tea laughing at you imitating the gun bobbing animation, thanks for that.

[@aortaplatinum]

"Maybe if you got rid of that old yee-yee ass helmet you could get some Shamblers on ya Thunderbolt, Shub-Nigguraaaath"

[@Morgetiud]

Quake 1 wasn't the start of the mouselook phenomenon, in fact, Wolf3D was designed using mouselook and so was Doom, ID just didn't make it the default because they assumed players wouldn't be comfortable with it.

[@JeffreyPiatt]

Wolfenstine 3d and Doom used the Mouse to control movement. The Build engine introduced Free look it just didn't affect aim.

[@BlazingOwnager]

@@JeffreyPiatt Build actually did introduce free aim and beat Quake to market with it, but they were copying the exact formula iD explained to everyone so they really ripped it off from an unreleased Quake. The games came out very close together, Duke even makes a "I ain't afraid of no Quake" joke. The first iD Tech game with look up/down handled it very clunkily (Heretic).

[@bobloblaw418]

Both quake and sm64 use noises and textures from commonly available texture/.wav disks from the time. Theres a few videos about it and a whole community based around finding where these textures originally came from.

[@TheFellerHasAChannelGodDamnIt]

Fum Fact: John Romero helped shape the Immersive sim, as he let a programmer and designer that helped create System Shock and Thief make his own office, and allowing him to make anything. That was how Deus Ex was born.

[@nemeru3352]

Bruh, Quake 1's grenade luncher is the best one in any game. Good for getting enemies around corners, Leading those evil fiend into there death. The arc of the grenades and sound effect is so nice

[@AliceGrimm97]

I love Quake's grenade launcher. It's so fun to use! It's a shame that no other grenade launcher in an id game since then has ever felt as good to use.

[@johndexterzarate6663]

....Also gives traumatic memories when doing a nightmare run.

[@brpadington]

This guy wasn't even alive when this game came out. Some of his criticism is hilarious.

[@valletas]

@@brpadington so he need to have played quake when it came out to do the review? Man thats some gatekeeping

[@mortenera2294]

@@brpadington I played Quake when it came out, and I didn't like the grenade launcher. How about that, dipshit?

[@hannibalcase1100]

A lot of Reznor's work is a little more discordant. I highly recommend his Ghosts album.

[@EmeralBookwise]

I'd say Doom is more like ID's childhood, bright colors and bombastic energy. Quake is more like ID's teenage years, brooding darkness and trying to take itself overly serious.

[@cartoonhead9222]

The thing is with this iteration of iD, they really didn't have to try too much with art design, story, etc. They had John Carmack, whether it was the smooth scrolling of Keen, the BSP rendering of Doom and Wolf3d, or the full 3d rendering of Quake, or even the Carmack's Reverse shadowing effects of Doom 3. You were just literally in it for the perfected gameplay, and excellent graphics.

[@jasonberezowski2869]

It literally can not be overstated what an absolute genius Carmack is. We would not have the video games we have today without him.

[@sirbill_greebi3811]

"If Doom was ID childhood, then Quake is it's adulthood that is dark and deary." You mean ID became a angsty teen?

[@lancebaylis3169]

My mind got blown when it was pointed out to me in a KZbin video, like, a year ago that what would become the Strogg logo in Quake II is actually visible on crates at the start of Quake E1M2. And this was there in the original game in 1996. Suddenly, my mind was making all kinds of connections between the hellish creatures here being very early iterations of what eventually became the Strogg, and I suddenly want a new Quake game that ties together all this loose lore the same way the new Doom games do.

[@jeanfrancoluna3028]

13:18 Best scream ever.

[@vogonp4287]

The the lack of a map and Quake's full 3d surreal levels add to the feeling of uneasy that Quake always gives me.

[@cloudedarctrooper]

I just wanna say: I'm a huge fan ever since I discovered you

[@nitromenace1424]

7:55 took me completely off guard for some reason

[@Symmetriad]

14:44 What absolute madman plays an FPS with a flight joystick?!

[@Symmetriad]

4:52 *destroyed* me, nice work :D

[@yeetkid]

I just came up with a cool idea for an ad for quake so it starts with a kid at home playing DOOM and then the camera shakes as the child questions the shaking he notices his entire family running outside then he too runs outside and the the camera shakes even more as a crack forms in the ground the kid shouts"QUAKE" as a giant sized copy of quake emerges from the large crack then the advertising ensues talking about it's 3d processing

[@Some-guy-on-the-internet]

DOOM actually is a fully 3D game. It draws the maps on a 2D plane, but the final result is a fully 3D game with true height values being represented by 2D graphics. Doomkid made a great video going more in depth on how DOOM's engine works and debunking the misconceptions that lead people to believe that it isn't 3D. Quake was still the first id game to use true 3D graphics and polygonal 3D maps and objects. There's no discrediting that. It's just that Quake wasn't their first truly 3D game.

[@LordSluggo]

Doomkid is incorrect. You do not have three axes of freedom. Raycasting is extraordinarily clever but it is not fully 3D.

[@Some-guy-on-the-internet]

@@LordSluggo DOOM isn't a raycaster. Wolfenstein 3D is, but definitely not DOOM. DOOM uses binary space partitioning which allows the map to be divided into sectors with individual and modifiable height values. That's why it has elevators, stairs, doors which move up and down, and other strange shapes. You can pass over or under enemy projectiles, which just wouldn't be possible if the game wasn't calculating height. Archvile attacks can push you up and over walls if the wall is below your feet while you're in the air. Cacodemons climb up walls before they can follow their path towards the player. If DOOM wasn't a 3D game, none of this stuff would be possible. The saircase at the beginning of E1M1 should be proof enough of that. If you're gonna try to respond with something about infinitely tall monsters and no vertical aiming at enemies, I can explain that too. Infinitely tall monsters were intentionally programmed in to avoid needing to process two or more actors occupying the same space. This was removed in Heretic which also runs on id Tech 1, so you can jump over enemies in it. Heretic also has a flight power up that lets you access paths that would be too high up to reach normally. This wouldn't be possible without calculating true height values. Auto aim removes the need to aim vertically in DOOM. Like infinitely tall monsters, it was programmed in because DOOM's graphics are optimized to be viewed from only one specific vertical angle. Stretching the graphics to allow for vertical aiming would've taken way more processing power than was worth the trouble and it made the game look really ugly, so the aiming was locked to be horizontal only and an auto aiming system was added in to make aiming at enemies above and below you possible. The developers knew what they were doing. They made clever cuts here and there to make the game easier on the hardware of the time and added solutions that kept the game playable. It's just smart programming, and that doesn't make DOOM any less 3D. I'd suggest you have another watch of that Doomkid video because clearly you got something wrong along the way, and while you're at it, borogk also made a great video explaining things more in depth. Watch that too.

[@LordSluggo]

@@Some-guy-on-the-internet You do not have three axes of freedom. You cannot put one room over another. It is extraordinarily clever but it is not full 3D

[@Some-guy-on-the-internet]

@@LordSluggo That's simply because of how the maps are designed. They are drawn on a 2D plane but the game interprets that data and renders it as a 3D space with true height values. Part of the map data dictates the floor and ceiling height of each sector, and you can move freely within that space. The map design has nothing to do with whether there is a Z axis in DOOM. If you're drawing a map on a 2D plane, how are you supposed to draw a whole other room on top of it without messing up the geometry of the room below it? The answer is you can't. Modern source ports have solved this, sure, but we're not talking about those. As far as id Tech 1 maps go, you cannot draw a room over another on a flat plane.

[@BlazingOwnager]

2.5D is still the most apt way to describe it. Some aspects of Doom are 2D. This includes the way the maps are handled in the design phase - however, some things are in fact full 3D which includes the game space and movement (which is why fireballs can go over your head). There's so many massive misunderstandings about this with people claiming "No it's true 2D!" and "No it's true 3D!" when the answer is both are true to varying degrees.

[@ninjacat230]

10:05 now you know how we feel about marauders. just strafe lol

[@TheKyleman6]

Fun fact: first time I saw a Shambler was when I was playing Chasm (which I had fun with despite the criticism against it). Edit: I should note, as there is another game called Chasm last I checked, I meant the semi-roguelike metroidvania…

[@miguelbranquinho7235]

There's a Quake clone called Chasm: The Rift, yeah that was sort of confusing.

[@Marek82313]

When I was young I liked Quake, but I started really appreciating it only with the remaster. It is now an obsession 😬

[@ΝικοςΣφυρης-λ7μ]

Ah yes the most unsettling games from the 90's, a gothic, violent fps and an Italian plumber beating up mushrooms and giant turtles

[@BaxterAndLunala]

Trent Reznor also worked on the soundtrack of Black Ops II.

[@ThatTravGuy]

There's a Black Ops 2??

[@BaxterAndLunala]

@@ThatTravGuy Yeah, just like there's an X6.

[@austrakaiser4793]

If I get conscripted into WW3 I'm gonna get a good weapon and hear "QUAD DAMAGE" then eventually "Double Kill!, TRIPLE Kill!, Overkill!, Killtacular" etc

[@colesephhh9546]

KILLTROCITY, KILLIMANJARO, KILLTASTROHE, KILLPOCOLYPSE, KILLIONAIRE!

[@kenko7735]

quake just got brought to modern consoles!!!!!

[@ImNotSimon_totally]

With crossplay. Time for i to get 0 kills, 100 deaths due to PC players.

[@No-sr5fb]

Just bought it this week from the quake con sale based on your review, awesome homie

[@redspear007]

The final boss's name is probably the most clear HP Lovecraft inspiration

[@Hunt4Yoshi]

8:05 playing with fire id software

[@ninjacat230]

15:01 that's because those servers are really heavily modded. you ever join a gmod server? it's like that, but stuck in 1996 speeds. it is toatally worth it, though

[@elijahbluefish7528]

whenever he looked up in 1:36 while playing doom i think i had a stroke but then i realized he's probably just playing gzdoom

[@BlooDaBeast]

You guys rock. I know why you feel like you can’t say her name for the memes

[@thefernofrommarsgaming4204]

found this channel through my recommended, pretty good keep up the work ig

[@JorguinTorpedo-ff5vk]

Shambler is the best boi, Always give a smile on my face when he comes in a stage.

[@Pixelody]

I fucking love you're channel. I discovered it recently by watching your Mega man X series. I liked it so much that I wanted to replay the whole series

[@SerathDarklands]

Shub-Niggurath is NOT Quake. Quake is a dragon that you fight at the end of the second mission pack, Dissolution of Eternity.

[@10Elements]

Best video sofar. Also nice to see Chris & Swav in a video ^W^ You're going places, Trav, now play System Shock 2 :V

[@Ghristopher6449]

[@dyingstar24]

Funny thing about the "quake champions is dead" thing... A man by the name of Gianni Matrigano is on a crusade to bring it back. So far it seems successful!

[@thejman5683]

4:51 actually that sound comes from Hotel Mario, so that means Quake uses Hotel Mario sounds

[@ΝικοςΣφυρης-λ7μ]

I haven't played quake but it's world looks like it could make a good horror game

[@verylostdoommarauder]

Quake 1 really needs a reboot/remake. I would love to see the game that's fleshed out in the same way Doom Eternal is. The gothic horror elements are cool, and maybe they could lean more into the dark fantasy elements originally intended for the game. They could also change around the weapon selection and make the runes actually do something, maybe have them be a permanent buff or have them act as an auxiliary way of doing damage like the grenades from Doom Eternal.

[@novaleader7305]

11:41 me every time I try to play Quake 4

[@HikingFeral]

Unpopular opinion but Quake 2 is a decent game with banging music and that's still fun to play today.

[@ninjacat230]

4:52 holy shit i almost died

[@meercat4559]

3:47 is this how you run with a gun.

[@dvader518]

12:34 The final boss level was indeed John Romero's doing.

[@wishiwascooler]

I first played Quake fully on the N64. I knew it was a port, but didn't really know to what extent the differences went. I don't remember it being too bad

[@Nathan-rb3qp]

That noise used in Quake and Super Mario 64 was actually used in Hotel Mario in 1993.

[@aliencatcrew3336]

Im so surprised you mentioned doom 64 super shotgun and yet not the fact sprite was used from quake lol

[@BlazingOwnager]

Things that bugged me about Quake at the time and still do: 1) The color palette. It became the norm in gaming around that time and it was terrible. Doom was way way more colorful and holds up better. 2) The fact they had not figured our smoothing for 3D character models yet. Every frame of Quake animation is hand animated. Same in Quake 2, but with way more frames and an added "morphing" effect between them. It wasn't until Half-Life did we get realtime bones that made the 3D models actually smoothly animate.

[@Trasc066]

Quake is the first PC game I ever played on my first MS-DOS PC

[@ozrithclay6921]

Doom is full 3d and it can be proven. Let a monster shot a projectile at you and drop down. If the projectile goes over you, it has a Y axes. (Spolier: it will fly over you) The reason for no room over room is to save processing power, Carmack only programed a bsp table for the mapping to not use a Y. But the game engine absolutely DID have one to work with. And before the inevitable "but you can't walk over another mob..." comments, that is only because to save processing, Carmack skipped over that particular virtual check as it wouldn't be worth it on PCs of that day. And that's why it was so simple to fix both in modern source ports. No changes to the actual engine were needed for hight Collision detection or 3d floors. Just some simple handling code.

[@TheMetaldudeX]

if you havent already, check out the orignal Unreal. Think quake meets half life. You hear more about unreal tournament then the original. Its kinda underrated.

[@godlycloud3744]

We need a 1 hour version of your intro

[@nexusshark]

I hope you'll cover the new Quake expansions from the remaster version.

[@WulvenWanderer]

With regards to the "story", what if they kept Quake as an existing character from the original setting who succumbed to the Lovecraftian realm, and would go on to become the "Quake" we know?

[@Minosprime69420]

2:10 the life: *smack* NOICE

[@СергейСоболев-х4ч]

Quake for N64 is a miraculous port, except it's not a direct port, it's a game recreation on a different engine (from Exhumed/Powerslave). Great video btw!

[@Autumn_red_fox]

Pretty sure that was for the Sega Saturn port

[@СергейСоболев-х4ч]

@@Autumn_red_fox Yes, my mistake, you're right! Thanks.

[@OmegaCoolsterDX]

Im like the opposite of most gamers, i enjoyed Quake but i prefer sci-fi setting and heavy metal music of Quake 2. To me it was a much better game (yes even if we talk about the single-player portion, fight me). I will have to check the 1.5 mod though cause it looks amazing.

[@СергейСоболев-х4ч]

This mod is great. Also you might want to check out Wrath Aeon of Ruin

[@valletas]

I like both but i feel like quake 2 lacks a soul I want to see a quake reboot like doom but with love craft and strogg enemies

[@Coffeequeen673]

(I wanted to do this in live chat if this was a premiere....also good video trav) Triplets born, the throne awaits A seer warns of a deadly fate Give up your children, separate Bide your time, lie in wait! Sonic Underground! (Sonic!) Sonic Underground! (Sonic!) They made a vow, their mother will be found! The children grow, learn what's right! Leaders of the freedom fight! They seek their mother, she knows they do! Is it time? If she only knew! Will the prophecy come true!?? Sonic Underground! (Sonic!) Sonic Underground! (Queen Aleena): I long for my children, but I have to wait; To act too soon could seal their fate.. They made a vow, their mother will be found! Sonic Underground!

[@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009]

Shub-lovecraft's cat namerath

[@JonCombo]

8:50 That looks like flames to me.

[@dandandowntown]

Reminds me of how creepy the music sounded on the PlayStation version of Doom when Caddicarus reviewed it

[@leecroft1983]

I have this for the Saturn and N64

[@fanofeverythingsinglething1000]

You should try the unreal games next I feel like you’ll have a fun time playing it

[@dotcomgamingd5564]

Still in my top 5 games of all time

[@juicestin_]

13:10 oh no... that sound..

[@SpeachbyteVODs]

Duke 3D when, Trav?

[@ThatTravGuy]

I've thought about Duke 3D! I picked up world Tour edition on steam but I've been told that's not a very good port (I didn't grow up with Duke so I'd be going in blind) Maybe some time next year I'll take a look at it!

[@ArcturusOTE]

@@ThatTravGuy You'd probably use the data from the GOG release to use with EDUKE32

[@dogwithgun2806]

I play quake on my dispenser

[@opticalecho119]

Oh my god that guy using the joystick to move and aiming with WASD scared me

[@RABBIDFF]

lying down for a quick nap XD, the Zombies do that EXACTLY in quake

[@evdestroy5304]

This was also the origin of Team Fortress

[@Jernichq]

I play this in my school, mouse doesnt work so i have to use the mouse pad. Still very fun even if its at about 17 fps

[@Emberson-9000]

Oh lawd no! Not the VORE BEAMS!!!

[@bertruger]

I like fighting the fiends.

[@wolfgangfrost8043]

Quad Damage addiction is real. I know.

[@carmelosgro6413]

Quake 64 has a PC port. I did notice a lot of stuff missing, compared to the original PC version

[@hektik2200]

Quake was my favorite growing up. The multiplayer scene is really what gave it all its life. I played QWTF until the last server shutdown. I can see tho how if I was discovering it post multiplayer how Doom would flex all over it. Not me commenting on a 3y/o video 😂

[@aliencatcrew3336]

Trav guy videos are great!!!

[@nonenothing4412]

Great content and delivery

[@meromute4016]

The guy bobbing the gun is just excited to shove the barrel in their faces

[@kirkmarkworthmusic]

look up hp lovecrafts cats name

[@ThatTravGuy]

Oh God oh Fuck

[@erykzysk3330]

Whoah what the FU

[@TheStrayHALOMAN]

Quake 1 is like Halo CE, the sequels abandon alot from the first game and we still haven't had a worth successor.

[@TheStrayHALOMAN]

@Zero Not in terms of gameplay, everything else sure.

[@aagh8714]

@@TheStrayHALOMAN why do you say, its been a long time but i dont remember halo 2 being that different gameplaywise (except for arbiter)

[@TheStrayHALOMAN]

@@aagh8714 It's all in the weapon balance and flow of combat. Halo CE was a run and gun shooter and the player was a walking tank. Halo 2 was a cover shooter. It cut your health just over half and made health regenerate, the AI were given artificial difficulty like having double the rate of fire on the same weapons you used instead of just making them better at using it. The levels as well focused more on having you hide behind cover picking off jackal snipers with a BR while the rest of the weapons got their damage cut in half because of the addition of duel wielding. Halo CE had you fighting open spaces moving full speed, dodging shots, and strafing enemies who used the same weapons as you without cheating like in Halo 2 and 3 both gave the AI more damage, faster firerate and the ability to fire without reloading "Halo CE you could even see the ammo left in a Marine's AR." Halo 2 created a new beast and left the old beast behind, it only feels the same because they look and sounds very close. For example Halo Infinite is just Halo 5 with a classic Halo skin... So everyone just says it's a return to classic halo just because of the feels and not the facts. "I love all Halo games btw, even Halo 5's Arena is my 3rd favorite." Sorry for the long reply, I love talking about this kind of stuff.

[@shingshongshamalama]

Oh hey you noticed the _incredibly subtle influence_ Lovecraft's severe racism had on his creative process.

[@fallouttoonlink]

Word of advise, just say Shub-Naggurath (its the best way to pronounce the name). You won't be demonetized. I actually said the name like this in my Quake series on my KZbin channel

[@fallouttoonlink]

@ReelVonic I didn't want to get in trouble with KZbin cuz they thought I said the n-word.

[@fallouttoonlink]

@ReelVonic so up yours

[@fallouttoonlink]

KZbin is pretty strict dude. I got hit with A copyright strike cuz one of my sister's decided to play the song Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap loudly in the background.

[@fallouttoonlink]

@ReelVonic SO STOP BEING AN ASSHOLE!!! Cuz I was only trying to be helpful, you douche

[@MrSquishyMelon]

Out of curiosity when was your first experience with Quake?

[@mollywantshugs5944]

I like Quake, but not as much as Doom. Partly because I prefer Doom’s higher enemy counts, partly because I like the aesthetic more, and partly because I prefer how movement and aiming are pretty easy so the focus is more on playing smart with monster herding and navigating webs of projectiles from 30 imps and a revenant Note: both of these games are older than I am

[@JonCombo]

Team Fortress started as a DooM map.