Israel and Palestine Is NOT That Complicated | feat. Dave Rubin

[@FaisalAli-ni3nc]

Bring on Norman Finklestein if you are really pro-debate

[@jwollheim]

He’s totally disingenuous, stop tokenizing Jews just because you have a few that agree with you. It’s really not a good look.

[@Bully-mu1su]

​@@jwollheimwhy are you butthurt?

[@FaisalAli-ni3nc]

@@jwollheim . If there were a few Germans that were pro-jewish life during the nazi era i would have been promoting them to speak up for jews too. Bye now

[@omerpeleg]

​@Bully-mu1su why do you hate jews?

[@zaydevans2077]

Dave’s whole thing is about ‘just discussing the ideas openly’, until its with anyone with an opposing view like finkelstein. If Norm is so disingenuous, Dave should be able to call him out on it during a lengthy debate. But Dave will never do that, as far as Bryan goes I won’t comment don’t know enough about him.

[@kirks386]

Dave Rubin needs to debate Jeffery Sachs and John Mershiemer

[@batmanRBC]

Or Scott Ritter, or Col Douglas MacPherson

[@Rcalderon518]

Dave Ruben is the last person I would get information on this conflict, let alone any topic for that matter. Ever wonder why Rogan stopped inviting him on? Dude is a total grifter.

[@seanrobinson6945]

Maybe something’s up but why does this have 10,000 likes and under 2,000 views?

[@CornerStoreDrums]

Bryan Callen always brings the heat! Much respect! 🫡

[@jamesmichael9341]

13:10 Brian says “nobody should get away with that” yet Israel killed 10,000 humans this past month with half of them being children. Palestinians lived there. Millions killed and kicked out of their homes. Now when the Palestinians fight back, dumb religious people and people that don’t know about the history side with Israel. Imagine the native Americans came back, kicked you all out of your homes, murdered your family and now you’re homeless with dead kids. That’s who you are all defending. It’s disgusting. Israel elites are hyped Hamas did that attack. Now Israel looks like the good guys.

[@Blumpkin3]

What heat? Lmao bringing the same info 100’s of podcasts have spoken about already he’s just copying em 🤣

[@arishillermusic]

Love this conversation. Thank you, gentlemen for sharing your perspectives.

[@____.-.-.-.-]

Either this 2 people misleading information, lied to public, propaganda to apartheid Israel, ignoring the Palestinian oppression. God will give judgement to whatever you do!

[@jopo7996]

When it comes to historical accuracy, my money's on Callen. He should know about Isreal, because he was in his early twenties when it was formed.

[@AlejandroHernandez-eh4eg]

😂 callen still remembers the battle for Jerusalem in 1948 he was a young adult at the time.

[@upvotecomment2110]

Yeah he really knows it His dad is an intelligence in that region

[@toneloke454]

Exactly, he had made love to at least one women or man in every country by that point.

[@TalkingToAWall]

You would lose your money then. He has such a clear bias I can only take hits analysis with a grain of salt

[@spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069]

@@TalkingToAWall this comment was clearly a joke disguised as a serious take for the sake of the joke to work via misdirection.

[@keomacfarlane]

Oh dear, there goes Bryan talking about something he doesn't know again...

[@SuperKripke]

This is a dumb way of pretending like a genocide isn't taking place in Gaza.

[@SixOneNiner23]

They’re MAGA bros now

[@synewparadigm]

This is a genocide? Someone is doing a really bad job.

[@SuperKripke]

@@synewparadigm Feel free to tell me what you think a genocide means. In my definition the scale and intent of the destruction of a population is already there. Obviously objective institutions will have to confirm the evidence when the dust clears but the images coming out of Gaza are crystal clear that a genocide and ethnic cleansing is taking place.

[@shelbyspeaks3287]

Funny thing is plenty of people on the dissident right call mass immigration "white genocide" so what's good for the goose is good for the gander right?

[@TheAlexa6]

@@synewparadigmOnly genocide in history where the population triples 😂

[@alexgarcia6548]

Bro move on from Brendan. You can’t be yourself with him around.

[@erikaw7767]

the hate brendan train moved on.. you have to figure something else out.. lol

[@dominickowalczyk8253]

He needs both to feel balanced bro. It’s worked thus far

[@mugshotmarley]

If you've known Callen for a while, this intellectual type of conversation is also just one of the many acts he loves to put on. The real bryan callen is the comedian doing ghey stuff with his friends and being late for everything.

[@trevor7514]

One is a comedy podcast one is a news/political podcast chill out bro 😂 Brian is goated in both

[@mayamills5174]

16:03 It should be noted that Netanyahu supported the Gaza withdrawl and voted for it four times in the Israeli parliament (while some of his party members did vote against it). Only after it was a done deal he started talking against it, and resigned from the government shortly before it was implemented. BTW Dave is right, it was approximately 8,500 people. Dave is wrong with his analysis of Netanyahu's character though. If anything is certain to everyone in Israel, is that Netanyahu would have to be dragged kicking and screaming before he steps down. He spent his entire political career sowing division and pitting sectors of the Israeli public against each other for his personal gain. Even now he refuses to take any responsibility and writes twits blaming others for the tragedy. According to poles, a big majority of Israeli citizens don't trust him to lead the country at this crusial time, and with good reason. Another thing is that he consistently appointed only deadbeats to his governments, because he doesn't want outstanding people around him, but rather obedient suck ups who won't outshine him. This is why the entire public sector isn't functioning now, when its needed the most, and the load is carried mostly by NGOs and the many good citizens who volunteer their time and money. Other than that great conversation, thank you for supporting Israel.

[@corn_pop6082]

I think you've got your own deep prejudices that make your comments just propaganda, not correcting either host.

[@mayamills5174]

@@corn_pop6082 I have my opinions as an Israeli living in Israel, experiencing things first hand. If you think my impressions are prejudice and propaganda you are free to think so (Netanyahu voting for the Gaza withdrawal is not my opinion, but a fact. Look it up if you don't believe me). As for my opinions about Netanyahu, we'll have to wait for the war to end and see if he indeed resigns honorably or not. I'll be very happy to be proven wrong.

[@immortalnightbody]

@@mayamills5174 All I know is that a bunch of Eastern Europeans cosplaying as indigenous Jews went to Palestine with the sole purpose of colonizing it in the name of some literally made-up bullshit. The only reason this war happened is because the Gazans are outbreeding Israel. Israel in its current form is done either sooner or later and thank god. What was stolen, they won't get to keep.

[@Mox_Normandy]

Bryans father was in the CIA. I mean, we all agree that right?

[@patrickl6932]

Dave’s support for DeSantis is s deal breaker.

[@nares2005]

DeSantis is far better than Trump.

[@chrish2112]

​@@nares2005Wrong.

[@nares2005]

@@chrish2112 I’m right. DeSantis is an American, a patriot. Trump is a narcissist. No comparison really.

[@chrish2112]

@@nares2005 You're completely wrong. DeSantis is an establishment puppet. Might as well be a Democrat. You're completely clueless. Close your ignorant mouth.

[@Sword_of_justice103]

Ridiculous

[@dude3678]

If Bryan promoted this version of the pod, it would rise.

[@europa_bambaataa]

hey can someone let me know if these guys think or talk abut settlement activity in the west bank? thanks. (I stopped at 15 min, this is too one-sided for me)

[@malinoisnation9392]

The irony of Dave going around to podcasts last month talking about freedom of speech now to this.

[@deanwinchester6654]

Yup, all these freedom of speech fighters turned there back after this war. Show their true colours.

[@T-MoGaming]

@@deanwinchester6654there’s a difference between free speech and supporting terrorism.

[@shelbyspeaks3287]

@T-MoGaming yeah yeah whatever zion boy, what's supporting terrorism by saying "free palestine"? this is the problem, and you think governmental policy has less of an effect overseas than someone saying fucking words???

[@T-MoGaming]

@@shelbyspeaks3287 nothing at all wrong with saying free Palestine and I don’t support any killing of innocents anywhere. What I won’t fall for is a terror organization. You really have to know the history of both sides to say free Palestine though. But no I don’t think that’s against the law at all. Just don’t chant Pro Hamas chants or you might go to jail eventually.

[@T-MoGaming]

@@shelbyspeaks3287 what would you mean by free Palestine? Do you want to let Hamas out of Gaza and into Israel? Or do you want Hamas overthrown and then the Gazans released? I’m just not sure what you’re asking for

[@pr0n3]

Loving where this podcast is going and good to see you have high caliber guests like Dave Rubin. Keep this trainin a rollin my dood.

[@xmikex902x]

Where is it going? Down the right wing political echo chamber?

[@dennislindsay5842]

⁠@@xmikex902xwould you rather go down the progressive echo chamber??

[@pr0n3]

@@xmikex902x Better than where you are at in the illogical echo chamber. Go get ratio'ed elsewhere.

[@thebillryan]

@@pr0n3 "high caliber guests like Dave Rubin". This is satire I take it. You do know your so called free speech warrior Dave Rubin had the satirical KZbin channel "dave rubin clips" forcefully removed from KZbin as it offended his delicate sensibilities. All it did was point out every moronic utterance from his grifting mouth each week. All these guys are utter hypocrites and don't mean a word they say. They just lean into it for the subscriptions and views. Rave Dubin's head would explode if it had an original thought.

[@bigm317]

Toward the Zionist brainwashing echo chamber 🤣 🤮

[@michaelk4740]

So glad Bryan's doing these kinds of talks now!

[@JamisonRelapse]

yeah totally, I can never get enough of the untested and novice takes of another washed up comedian. So cool! Can there ever be enough? Probably not! LITERALLY BASICALLY all of KZbin now.

[@michaelk4740]

@@JamisonRelapse sheesh, someone needs to give you a hug

[@Smokeyyyyyyy]

Dude me too I never thought I would see the day

[@JamisonRelapse]

@@michaelk4740 Your'e not wrong. If only that hug would make Brian Callen and Dave Rubin insightful, then we'd be cooking with gas. Sorry for any hostility on my end. Respect.

[@T-MoGaming]

@@JamisonRelapseyou don’t need a phd to state the obvious.

[@raquelbretado1428]

“. . .I wanted to speak to you in light of all that’s going on in our world, and in particular, the atrocities that occurred over in the land of Israel. That is on everyone’s mind. We understand the horrors of it. It is, for some of us, unimaginable behavior and conduct, although it is nothing new in the world. And I was, really, asking the Lord to direct me in a particular way because there’s so many aspects and perspectives on what is going on in Israel and in the Middle East and in the conflict and the war that has begun. But as I thought about it, I began to list the things we could talk about and be informed by Scripture. We could look at this event and take a look at the Arab-Jew conflict, not only as it is today, but when it started back in the book of Genesis between Ishmael and Isaac, which was the beginning of this conflict. We could even look forward into the future, where this conflict will continue until the final battle of Armageddon. So it really goes from Ishmael and Isaac all the way to Armageddon. That is all of redemptive history. We also could look at the fact that through history God has preserved the Jewish people while at the same time punishing them for the rejection of His Son. That’s why our Lord looked at Jerusalem and said, “Your house is left to you desolate until you come to the knowledge of your Messiah.” We see the desolation of Israel. We could look at all the suffering of the people of Israel through the centuries in the desolation that was pronounced upon them because of their rejection of Christ, which still goes on today. We could talk about that. We could talk about preservation and punishment at the same time. We could talk about the fact that no nation will ever exterminate the Jews. It’s been tried through history; it will not succeed, because God has future plans for their salvation and their kingdom. We could also talk about the desperate wickedness of the human heart, what it is capable of-such atrocities. But we have to remember this: that killing babies is nothing new. We do it here before they’re born, but it’s the same crime. And even going back in history, Israel was guilty of offering their babies to idols, sacrificing their own children. Atrocities are nothing new in human life. We could talk about the desperate wickedness of the human heart,, and how it’ll go as far in its wickedness as society will allow for it or as ideology or culture will permit. We could also talk about the fact that Israel has a right to retaliate-that when you are struck with such fierce aggression and death is the result, you have a right to retaliate. I think about 1 Samuel chapter 30, where the Amalekites came into the land of Israel and they took away all the women and children-kind of a kidnapping-and the people of Israel gathered together collectively and pursued them and slaughtered them as a result of that, for the future protection of their own lives. We could talk about the fact that the Bible says the government has a sword, and a sword is an instrument of death, and it wields it in the case of evildoers. We could talk about the words of Jesus: Live by the sword, die by the sword. We could also talk about the evil of false religion. False religion is Satan at his best, if you can use that term. False religion is not noble; false religion is demonic and satanic, and we see that played out in Islam. We would talk about the character of Islam itself. In its purest form it is violent, and the Quran calls for murder, slaughter, as expressing the will of Allah. And people are motivated to do it because in Islam, if you kill the infidels or offer yourself as a martyr in some attack on the infidels, you go to heaven, and that’s in their own literature. They’re motivated by the most carnal kinds of desires. You would think that some of them would have a conscience, but the conscience is informed by the culture’s morality; and if God, or you believe to be God, tells you to kill infidels, then that’s the noblest you can do. That’s why they start training their children in elementary school to that end. We could also talk about the fact that what we’re seeing in the Middle East now is a preview of Armageddon, the final, great battle that takes place in and around Israel and Jerusalem. And we will talk about that in our study of the book of Revelation. While all of those are important, and things that need to be understood biblically, there is a universal issue that I think is most relevant to everyone. As I thought about the approach I might take,, I was reminded of the fact that Jesus faced a similar massacre. And you ask the question, “What did He have to say about that? Did He talk about history? Did He talk about sociology? What did He talk about? Did He talk about the future of Israel? Did He talk about anything in the past of Israel? Did He talk about human wickedness? No, He focused on one great reality that involves everyone. And so that’s what I want to draw to your attention and let Him be our teacher. It’s Luke 13, Luke 13. No one escapes the personal application of this perspective, and our teacher is the Lord Himself." Listen on... John MacArthur

[@Veritas20008]

What an excellent point about all of this because it is a story about “ALL OF THIS”! I’m excited to go read Luke 13! Fact is that we have a generation that has not heard the good news of the gospel so they rage like wild beasts in every direction. Nothing makes sense because they call evil good & good evil! They have lots of knowledge but absolutely NO WISDOM! Parents have let this generation down & not taught them scripture or take them to meet regularly with groups of believers to be taught & learn to do life together. But also something majorly shifted in 2020. You could feel a new sense of pure evil slithering in & taking out as many humans lives & minds as it possibly could! I felt it as soon as Biden took office in January! I sensed death coming to America in a way it hasn’t probably since the civil war! His first act as president was to kill massive number of great paying careers for thousands that worked on the pipeline in Texas, which lead to so many more deaths & even more to come because of all the purely evil things that have been happening to America since. -boarder wide open -homelessness, poverty to all Americans being replaced by Government spending to house, provide food, monthly stipends, cellphones, medical care, schooling, all at zero cost to foreigners & huge cost to Americans. -they 9-12million invaders also are doing governments bidding which is really Satan’s bidding by causing mass chaos in the streets to draw ppls attention away from the truly pure evil things ppl or demonically possessed ppl in this current government are doing -sex trafficking babies, children & woman to be used as sacrifices or sex slaves or just slavery which is evil enough! -drugs that are killing, & taking over the minds of millions of ppl from young to old -completely try & wipe God, his believers out of society! -enticing everyone with lies & deceptions of Satan which far to many Christians are falling to! -yes, we know we do not fight against flesh & blood but against rulers, principalities, evil in the heavenly realms! We must begin to preach the saving message of the gospel again, loud & clear. To many it will be folly but to some it will be the message of hope they’ve been waiting to hear & will lead them to salvation!

[@veeas11]

asking dave rubin to explain Israel-Palestine is like asking a golden retriever to explain quantum mechanics

[@aminahmad2595]

He’s a great intellectual like Peterson and Douglas Murray. Remember in the west your considered a genius if you say only women are women and one should get married.

[@mattmyers2624]

Simplifying it to people being "pro-Hamas" is a useful tactic to ideologues who can't actually argue their arguments out below a shallow surface; and then they don't have the attention span or patience, or perhaps not even yet the critical thinking ability, to actually sit through all of the shallow arguments that are brittle to be exposed for them. It's similar manipulative language as saying someone is "anti-vaxx" or "pro-abortion" vs. "pro-life" etc; ironically then there is the double-standard used, a similar blurring of the lines for Israel to hide under the wool coat to play victim attempting to make "anti-Israel" akin to anti-Semite - rather than anti-Zionist and anti-innocent humans being slaughtered - of which the most long-standing and sophisticated, best funded propaganda machine has successfully manufactured consent of an ideological mob [including the intelligent ideologues now exposing themselves being captured by this sophisticated propaganda] - to think innocent lives being slaughtered in response is acceptable; it's not acceptable. This lack of integrity with words is the first failure, first line of defense, in justice occurring - of the truth, whole truth, and nothing but the truth coming to light; "The first casualty in war is the truth."

[@naor85]

What a whole bunch of words just to say nothing of significance

[@Teal_Seal]

What do you think is the way to long-term peace in the region?

[@nares2005]

Yawn.. were you going to pro-Hams protests?

[@shelbyspeaks3287]

All of the replies don't even push back with anything of substance either, just proving that sheep will follow any wolf that looks like them...

[@Teal_Seal]

@@shelbyspeaks3287 Also, no one’s tried to answer my question…

[@MrIamWIN]

Love Bryan and Dave.... this is going to be a great convo!

[@themezoner1349]

Very simple. Israel took half the land and expelled the native population, and later occupied the rest and established apartheid.

[@AmethystEyes]

They were given that land by the UN. They should never have had the settlements but you can’t ignore that it wasn’t just Israel alone who was involved with this.

[@batmanRBC]

They’ve now taken 80%, and are continuously building settlements around Palestinian cities. They are choking off the West Bank and creating many little Gazas within.

[@toneloke454]

Bryan is clearly a perfect person to talk about this subject, he’s knowledgeable, virtuous, patient, and he was there hangin out in his dads Rolls Royce eating caviar when the treaty of Versailles was written.

[@FaisalAli-ni3nc]

I’ve been a fan of Callen since 2017 and have come to realise how spineless he is. He can’t call out Israel’s oppression of the palestinians clearly. It is not a surprise having been cancelled once him and his crew are definitely scared of losing sponsors and he is scared of Crowder. The inconsistency from him in relation to his stance on china and israel is cringey

[@CowneloAlvaroid]

Agreed! I thought Brian was unbiased and well-researched in researched in this matter but it's obvious he has a bias towards Israel just like most Americans do because of the colonialism of both countries. Lost all respect for B

[@michaelhall7546]

No cease fire

[@FaisalAli-ni3nc]

@@michaelhall7546 . Says someone who has never been in a physical altercation. Why don’t u join the israeli army and fight with them if you are really for violence? Yeah, thought not. Bye now

[@everythingisawesome76]

Lmao. Nope.

[@FaisalAli-ni3nc]

@@everythingisawesome76 that’s what i thought

[@sauldemize9998]

Excellent Job! its been enjoyable watching you grow, and helping me along the way

[@NCStateAlum]

So glad you finally came around to the lunacy of the far left and that the only way to be able to look yourself in the mirror is to be conservative on many topics at hand today.

[@shelbyspeaks3287]

Damn for people who are "conservatives" you support A LOT of pro abortion and anti religious countries with your money...

[@tkirkpat007]

Great podcast. Keep swinging, you're getting good at the solo pods. Very relevant topic and guest.

[@mattkeyes9153]

Great cast , continued success

[@hanjaeyoon906]

No way! He’s 56! Subscribed!!

[@pj9259]

The level of hypocrisy around the Israel Palestine stuff is shocking. People accuse Israel of being genocidal when Hamas are openly genocidal.

[@cedricdallaire3324]

hamas yes NOT palestine civilians idiot.

[@matte4480]

I'm wondering when the delusional "everyone in the world wants to come to America" is going to end.

[@everythingisawesome76]

When everyone stops trying to come to America. Duh.

[@whysoseeriouss]

Less than it used to be from 20-30 years ago. But still number 1 country people around the world want to move to.

[@Arnsteel634]

It would be nice if lots of them would leave

[@dtb9613]

This is the "We want more Best of" button.

[@lennyqutr]

Put a flower in the gun of an idf soilder might be the most stupid thing i have ever heard

[@wottevva]

You are right, its as simple as Palestinians are indigenous to the region, and are being forced out of their own land by Israeli Jewish people that should know better after thousands of years of the same treatment, and now they visit that terror upon Palestinians, and have done for generations. An illegally occupied country with borders and checkpoints that encroach further into Arab territory, and the dehumanizing of a whole nation, making Arabs appear less than human, and after 70 years of hate crimes by both sides, this war seemingly has no end. Hollywood cucks side with Israel, well of course, its a money pipeline for Jewish folks, so of course they would, the cowards are afraid of that cancel button, meanwhile if you have ever visited Jerusalem, you would perhaps see 1st hand the racism, hatred, and sheer intolerance displayed by Israelis towards Christian and Muslim Palestinians. You would also see the disparity between the numbers of Israelis killed by Arabs, and the amount of Arabs killed by Israelis, its a diabolical. Arabs throw a stone, Israelis commence air strikes. Israel has all the money, power, influence, and yet they are the one sending mass terror to a nation of poor, cut off, isolated Arabs. They turn off water, power, internet, they control the fate of Palestine as if they are Kim Jun Un of North Korea, they act like dictators, they are breaking international laws, and are only going to be judged by their God come clocking out time. The irony of two holy nations, with arguably the most valuable religious buildings and landmarks in the world, fighting with each other, as if God will be pleased by it, I am not religious myself, but it sure sounds contradictory to a belief in God, to raise your kids to hate, to kill, and to die for this 4 generation long war. Israel only exists because of British intervention, and yet Britain does not stand for the victims, the Arabs of Palestine, and makes me ashamed of my English heritage. Hamas is vile, I agree whole heartedly, but war is vile, and on and on it goes, and guess what, when Hamas is finally dismantled, up will pop the next radical group, because the war, is all they have got. Im sorry, but if you think that Israel have a moral imperative, and an Arab Palestinian does not, you are ignorant. My love is for Palestine and Palestinians, and I hope their plight ends soon. I hate no nation, I have no hatred in me, and I just hope that both sides can find peace one day, the Israeli Jew and the Palestinian Arabs are more similar than they are different, similar foods, music, culture, same uni-eye brow, same same same. You could almost call them cousins, even brothers and sisters...perhaps they need to be teaching the similarities to the young, instead of the differences, so that the hatred is the only thing being killed, instead of the young and old and infirm. Peace will prevail somehow, someday.

[@ukmeyer9730]

You know that the JEws had their golden age under Islamic rule? So why would you suggest that there is some kind of un containable hatred and not attribute it to jewish crime?

[@lightworker4512]

Arabs made pact with Hitler to kill Jews in Palestine. Arabs rejected partition plan by UN and attacked Israel in 1948 to kill them all. They failed Multiple two state solutions rejected by Arabs Muslims don’t want peace or compromise but destruction of Israel followed by destruction western civilization Koran says to kill Jews. Koran says lie to non Muslims. Simple

[@Peter_of_the_North]

Maybe stop throwing stones?

[@mohamadromzee7394]

​@@Peter_of_the_North Whether you throw stones or not they will still shoot or bomb to kill every now and then using some excuse. Might as well throw stones.

[@livinglife1089]

If you have such a strong opinion I take it you are willing to fight for them. Or you are just like everyone else in the U.S. picking a side a complaining about it on the internet

[@d1g3r]

Can't remember the last time Dave said something new or different. Same ol for years..

[@mugshotmarley]

I too get my world news and conflicts from an 80 year old comedian. I heard that being a comedian is the toughest job in the world, so they gotta be smart guys!

[@MilkShake]

Great pairing i never thought of 👏

[@777thetruth2]

It depends on the topic! In the case of the Israeli/Palestine nightmare, he is clearly biased, and speaking from his emotions, not the facts!

[@toneloke454]

Enlighten us with these “facts” then.

[@777thetruth2]

@@toneloke454 Why don’t you watch Scott Ritter’s most recent interviews on KZbin such as this one that’s 2:03:42 “SCOTT RITTER JOINS ON THE TRUTH ABOUT ISRAEL WAR, ZELENSKY’S DEMISE, PLUS MORE!” He was the US Marine Corps Intelligence Analyst for the WMDS inspection, who refused to lie for the Bush Neo-Con cabal and he also refused a 6 million dollar bribe from AIPAC to also lie about it! He has been involved with the political and military intelligence of all world conflicts and proves everything he says! Do you REALLY WANT THE TRUTH?! Watch it!

[@CowneloAlvaroid]

​@@toneloke454 Fact is Israel has an illegal military occupation over Palestine and is committing genocide that is a fact

[@sdm12342002]

Dave was a great guest but please try and get Douglas Murray on your show, Bryan.

[@katking6820]

Douglas is a bit to intelligent for Bryan .

[@trevaudio]

Murray, another homosexual Islamophob…..no thanks !

[@BlackHeartRC]

@@katking6820 not on this topic

[@katking6820]

@@BlackHeartRC yeah he doesn’t dumb down at all

[@loganday3656]

Good Pod Bry.❤

[@noface5605]

BREAKING🚨: Israel admits apache helicopters fired on their own civilians running from the Supernova music festival. “The pilots realised that there was tremendous difficulty in distinguishing within the occupied outposts and settlements who was a terrorist and who was a soldier or civilian… The rate of fire against the thousands of terrorists was tremendous at first, and only at a certain point did the pilots begin to slow down the attacks and carefully select the targets.”

[@ranedri3185]

What you source? “Letter to America” by Bin Laden? God I hate this new generation…

[@nojuice457]

bryan, 4:12 wokeness is marxism. you are simply defining marxism in a classic sense. marxism has evolved via the frankfurt school. marxism is the exact same thing as wokeness, cultural marxism, ideological subversion, psychological warfare, active measures, or critical theory. they all mean the same thing, which better fits my modern definition of marxism. marxism is classically tied to the economic system of a nation, but that is deceptive. marxism never works in practice for a variety of reasons. to the people that understand this, marxism is simply a way to gain power, specifically, marxism has become a method for a minority of people that understand its failures to take power for themselves, with full realization that it will not work, but they will be part of the political elite that does not suffer the patterns of the failing marxist systems which are famine, slavery, and mass murder. im available to talk more if you like.

[@KR811]

I bet you think civil rights is Communism too 🤡

[@arlenegojocco7518]

Too bad, Dave didn't strike a conversation with Keannu. He's actually a very down-to-earth guy and low key.

[@34canderson34]

I'm here for this 😃🍿

[@josephjames8131]

It is not a religious war. He literally just took himself out of the conversation just then.

[@synewparadigm]

Hamas are a branch of the Muslims brotherhood. They showed us that they don't care for the well-being of the Palestinians.

[@lennyqutr]

Now bring in norman finkelstein

[@loneshark87]

How about not asking a zionist to explain things

[@WorshipinIdols]

There was actually a partition plan in 1937 as well that the Arabs declined that was even better then the ‘48 deal.

[@michaelfasher]

The Peel commission, eighty percent of modern Israel.

[@michaelfasher]

The creation of Trans Jordan was the original partition plan

[@trevaudio]

Why should they have accepted it ???? A bunch of white Europeans taking land again, enabled by other white Europeans !!

[@manofwar2354]

Why giving lands to people who came from europe ?

[@WorshipinIdols]

@@manofwar2354 Because they own it. You see, unlike the Muslims and Arabs who conquered they places where they live now before persecuting the People that dwelled their before them, the Jews immigrated peacefully and purchased their lot. No one asked the Arabs no give up their property, it would have been theirs in the new democratic country’s. The Arab culture however required them to lord over and dominate the “other” and they believed that it was beneath them to be in a minority status. Your argument only has meaning if u assume the state that was going to be created will be an Arab national, Islamic dictatorship in which the minority will be persecuted the way that it is in all Muslim and Arab nations. And it makes sense that when this is the only way that you know how to live you would project it on others. So the Arabs wanted to be the one persecuting instead of being persecuted. LOl. But the Jews have every right to that land and much more. Not least for all the repetitions that the Muslim Ummah owes the Jews for their barbarism over the last 1309 years.

[@DanielMartinez-wj5dy]

One of the nicest person I met is a co worker of mine who is from Lebanon and is a devout Muslim. Super nice but as soon as the Jews are involved it’s like a switch gets turned and there’s now hatred.

[@user-tk1lf5hi6f]

Do you just dismiss it off the bat or do you try to understand? I have had people steal from me and then destroy me (i come from a shit family) and i hate them for their behavior.

[@DanielMartinez-wj5dy]

@@user-tk1lf5hi6f 💯 percent I understand. I’ve delved deep into this conflict going back to faysil and Lawrence of Arabia and also on the Jewish people who were living in Hebron and many areas before 1948. Starting from the battle of tel hai to the nebi musa riots in 1920 and the Jaffa riots not long after that. This conflict didn’t start in 1948 it’s been brewing long before that including in the writings of Islam where Muhammad drove out the Jewish people from Medina because he had a dream they would attack him. “A dream!” I say all that to say I don’t come at this from a lack of understanding my friend I’ve took the time to understand both sides. It’s a complicated issue and anyone who thinks it’s simple is lying to themselves. I get the hatred. Both sides have committed wrong from the get go. The Irgun and stern gang and also the Arabs that slaughtered 60 some Jews in Hebron who had nothing to do with what was happening in the early stages of this conflict. It’s not simple. But how can anything be achieved by more and more violence? More and more hatred? Is there not a great good reason to let go of past hurts from both sides? Everyone in the world can hold a grudge for some thing that’s happened to them every one has a reason to hate someone else but is it the answer? I don’t believe so. Nothing will change in the Middle East unless forgiveness is taken seriously and blame stops being pointed at each other. Both sides have a cause but hate is definitely not the answer.

[@CowneloAlvaroid]

Correct

[@DanielMartinez-wj5dy]

@@Inge-99 absolutely it is. I’ve watched him. 👍🏻

[@hrmIwonder]

no occupation? ok, if you say so lol

[@PaulGrinderQueer69]

He later called old Ben a great leader

[@pedrom1619]

Hi Bryan! The path for you is more spontaneous stuff like Bestoff!

[@dtb9613]

Greaaaat podcast

[@frankunderwood5088]

For fuck sake my beautiful gorgeous man goat Its about damn time that you have a podcast with that kind of setup. I bet your waiting on your logo in the back. Please keep it up ! Youll make $$$ now 😂

[@mondardaman2973]

I stopped listening when he said "there is no occupation", Sad.

[@jhanig958]

@BryanCallen @DaveRubin American Jew I living in Israel. I was in Yeshiva. This may sound unbelievable, but Orthodox Judaism also has a lot of groups within it (similar to how you have Catholics, Protestants, etc). I work, I pay taxes, I haven’t served in the IDF, etc. Most black & white garbed Orthodox Jews don’t serve in the military (and are even against it), are disinterested in the military side of politics, and aren’t typically involved in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. They also have a few political parties, NOT one, and unfortunately those parties are often in disagreement. (Us Jews, go figure.) The more modern sections do serve in the military, pay taxes, etc. They also aren’t extremist regarding religious-political actions, although views do vary, but not to the extremest degree. Of all groups, there is a minority of minority (arguably around 1% of Israel’s population) that you are referring to as “fundamentalists” interested in war. In all reality, no Orthodox Jew views them as Orthodox Jews, any more than Jews for Jesus are seen as Orthodox Jews. If I may say, living here for 16 years, the Palestinian-Israeli conflict is made up of many elements and many groups, and religion is hardly the primary reason. If you need any sources, please feel free to pm, or check my facts. 👍🏻

[@noamkoren7390]

As an Israeli, I agree on most of what you said, accept Bibi, He doesn't love our country and October 7,in many ways is also his responsibility.

[@jjbeech]

Finally Callen.

[@slow88LX]

The noise floor is ROUGH in this. Not an easy listen.

[@fistsoffury9393]

This used to be a good podcast until Callen brought Rubin on. The amount of distasteful lies is amazing. Callen on his own used to be good. When he'd bring professionals in certain fields to discuss subjects, it was great. But don't do opinion pieces. It's a really cheap cop-out, especially with a "Cali bro" like Rubin.

[@michaelortiz1561]

I love how everyone keeps saying its an occupation when the jews were literally given much of the palestina area by Britain, who took it over from the ottomans , the land was rightfully controlled by.the British we keep forgetting that spoils of war exists and more often then not include land so when ppl say the Palestinians have a " right to return" ? No they dont they lost multible wars to isreal thats it you lost you dont get.to complain about it now

[@jamesc210]

11:34 - "There's no Christians left in Egypt" - has he never heard of Coptics? There are 10 million Christians in Egypt. Playing very loose and fast with the facts here

[@kevincleveland763]

Yasir Arafat said to the Prime Minister of Israel at the Camp David Accord, "I will sign this if you will swear to walk behind my casket." I would like to know who actually calls the shots in Palestine. Please note that walking behind his casket would mean walking down through Gaza right after the Door David Accords were signed so they would both be dead. It was simply to point out to the Prime Minister that he had no choice.

[@danielharris8144]

Son of the CIA and grifter who will say whatever for whoever pays him the most wants him to say talk about Israel vs Palestine. Let’s forge our opinions off of these two.

[@roverbett3858]

Notice noone brings up the fact that the Ottomans expelled the jews in 1915, Arabs then stole their homes & property in Palestine. Fyi- Palestine is named after the Phillistines who were greek, it was the name of the land, not the ppl.

[@adg8711]

Finally Callen gone solo Touch up room looks like interrogation room Put chess board in front of you guys

[@funkspinna]

Great conversation.

[@orenkassner2510]

16:47 there is no way netanyahu will step down respectfully.

[@AmethystEyes]

The Israeli people are fighting to remove him, it’s a struggle but before October 7th there were real efforts in Israel.

[@orenkassner2510]

Yes I know, I was there 😂

[@ronin_11b94]

A conversation between two gay middle aged freethinkers.

[@Anthony-ti2it]

I’m pro American… explain to me how intervening in the Middle East helps us at all? Use that money to build more oil infanstructure wear houses or even nuclear! Become energy independent and then work on becoming independent on computer chips and refine the matireals we have here and become a net exporter that’s how cost goes down for us the people… spending our money in foreign wars does nothing but help build inflation.

[@CowneloAlvaroid]

It doesn't. It only helps a few in.power stay in power and make more money

[@BlackHeartRC]

Its time to get the most 1-sided perspective humanly possible

[@IsthatIt4real]

Lol

[@Camil515]

This whole podcast is all about Israel is great and mighty! They never do no wrongs! They help Palestinians and the fact that Palestinians have any issue with them is just terrorist mindset!

[@AMax-j2n]

Good stuff, Bryan knows stuff! Rubin breaks it down plain and simple. Like the title says, "it's not that complicated."

[@capatheist]

I know this is going to make me violently angry… and yet I can’t help but click

[@shonerado]

Me to, cos they pick a side.

[@dennislindsay5842]

@@shoneradohave you picked a side??

[@synaestesia-bg3ew]

When I saw those two together, I already knew it's gonna be one-sided, it's the dark Web.

[@spencermorris5873]

God bless Israel 🇮🇱 and God save America 🇺🇸

[@atomiclambda]

How does Bryan know so many details about Israel? Super impressive!!!

[@billbill4040]

Bryan needed to go it alone, been saying it for year's, more informed then joe

[@rockead77]

Bryan is an intelligent guy. I hate when he debases himself on whatever show he's doing with Brendan Schaub.

[@livinglife1089]

Just because he speaks with confidence doesn’t mean it’s true. I’ve heard him state many things that were inaccurate. Rogan has called him out many times, Callen just goes silent then

[@TheRed02151]

Assuming you've never seen the Joe/Rubin episode where Dave pushes for less regulation on construction without knowing how and why construction remains a stable industry not littered with public health code violations and lawsuits.

[@Sm-rq9ll]

Struggling for views huh Bryan. I think people have really forgotten you exist

[@trevaudio]

Please discuss your “history” of the land Rubin 😂😂😂😂

[@alexmyboy]

The mics have to much feedback

[@Noodlepunk]

Wish this was a longer discussion.

[@Peter_of_the_North]

The Wrinks droppin knowledge.

[@immasurvivor]

my two favorite gay guys!

[@dustinhessel9605]

Most ppl are against collective punishments.

[@olbapoli4074]

Does callen and co include christians a Palestinian? Cos i know there are many. How are christians treated?

[@FlowerlyF.]

Sad.. Did not expect this from Bryan.

[@CowneloAlvaroid]

Ikr I'm completely shocked Bryan can't see the obvious war crimes carried out by Israel

[@darthnihilus511]

Has Dave ever done Rogan ?

[@BlackHeartRC]

Yea but never came back because he has no principles

[@zvileshetz3685]

Much respect. Good to see some real facts for a change.

[@OmnipotentSpirit]

beautiful insights thank you I fully agree

[@PatrickMHoey]

Anyone who spends so much time with Brendan Schlub can’t be much of a ‘thought leader’…

[@מתןהרמן]

Brian as an israeli and a long time fan im so happy to see you understanding the situation and speaking the truth with your platform you defenetly need balls for that in this crazy times. Also i was really impressed with your knowledge about the political situation in israel to. Always enjoy your work love from israel 🇮🇱🇺🇸🇮🇱🇺🇸🇮🇱

[@jarrettfinney4882]

Anyone who backs Palestine right now just believes whatever nonsense they read, or what's more likely, is that they hated Jews and Christians to begin with and this is just another excuse to go against us. There's 100% no justification for what those people do. They just hate us. End of story. But then again, we always knew this is how it would go. It sucks and we must stand strong and lean heavily on the father. And for what it's worth, idk if you're Jewish or what, but only speaking of my own experience, I have been in Jesus actual precense. I'm not talking about a metaphor or some stupid form of speech, the man has been by my side. He is our only way. In fact, the moment Israel calls on Jesus, it will be over. Israel will reign victorious forever. The further you go, the even more it makes sense. In fact, if you can read Hebrew, I highly recommend you read the Hebrew stuff because it makes even more sense. I mean every last word is perfect. He's in all of us already. We just have to allow him to take control. Love you brother. We'll be alright. Were God's own people.

[@מתןהרמן]

@@jarrettfinney4882 god bless you and god bless america 🙏🇮🇱🇺🇸

[@madgenius731]

💩

[@CowneloAlvaroid]

What truth? Israel is committing genocide and has been illegal occupation of Palestine. It's very clear unless you're biased towards Zionist/Israel

[@masonmercer8792]

These guys are saying that human rights protests are actually pro-terrorism protests. Scary times.

[@SixOneNiner23]

These idiots are gonna support Trumps internment camps.

[@Teal_Seal]

Say a ceasefire is called. What next?

[@SixOneNiner23]

@@Teal_Seal they want to build a canal and found 400 billion + worth of oil, it’s not happening.

[@Teal_Seal]

@@SixOneNiner23 What I mean is, what’s the next step towards lasting peace in the region? How is that achieved?

[@wefunkedup5877]

I couldnt think of anyone less qualified to make sense of anything than Dave Rubin. Be like Rogan and drop this grifter.

[@mysterious48]

you glance over many key points. how the Israelis practiced terrorism in 1948, how Palestine was 97% Arab , how Baruch Goldstein killed 30 people in a mosque in Hebron and that preceded the first suicide bomb . the Israelis concern of being demographically outnumbered and how it shapes there policies. you can easily cherry back from a chain of events to make it convenient to a narrative and both sides do that. one thing I notice is people like to assume all Arabs are the same and all jews are the same and that Arabs aren't discriminated against in Israel itself. ironically for the people who say Israel has a right to exist, the idea of a one state for all sounds extremely threatening.

[@materialform]

Bryan is as great as ever, but while I agree with much of what Dave says, for whatever reason, he unfortunately comes across as a shill.

[@Chris-rl9on]

Well the serial killer metaphor falls apart straight away because if the police said we’re gonna indiscriminately kill your whole village because you’re a killer, then that wouldn’t be okay. It’s the collective punishment of Palestinian people are protesting over. When Isreal say from the river to the sea, which they have been for decades, it’s not a call for genocide apparently but when Palestinians or their supporters say it it all of a sudden is. Isreal are the occupying force here and committing genocide as we speak. And why is it pro Israel supporters say I’ve been to Israel and there is no occupation but they never say they’ve been to Gaza?

[@Chris-rl9on]

I watched zone of interest earlier and it’d be like saying there is no holocaust I was at Rudolph Höss’ house earlier and it’s pretty nice

[@TheRed02151]

Ya'll remembered that episode of Rogan where Dave argued for less regulation in construction and Joe nearly smacked him in the face. That was the last time we saw Dave. See the thing with Dave is that he's a regurgitate-tor, he doesn't have his own points, at least points he's concluded on. Hence why he will just assume ZERO regulation as the way to go if less regulation is a good thing.

[@Edward-jg1ds]

This is basically a circle jurk. They should have someone in with countering opinions

[@Antwon.B.Jameson.the17th]

How anyone is still pro abortions after any substantial amount of time like beyond 15 weeks is fucked.