Israel Debate vs Communist Instantly Derails Into Wild Personal Insults

[@destiny]

Young Liberal EMBARRASSES Tim Pool And His Crew In Brutal 1v5 Debate ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGSYaamIZtego5I

[@c3swift]

As a Canadian, I'm sorry abo0t this.

[@c3swift]

Also Luke fucking smoked the timcast... karate kidded those bullies

[@GoAwaysnarT]

pffft yeah right. this person could not answer any questions. you losers showed your true ignorance in that one.

[@GoAwaysnarT]

Tim Pool made that child cry.

[@Black-White-BW1]

@@GoAwaysnarTSo the young liberal lost this one?

[@Lowtus4]

24:26 “You said you grew up in Lebanon, now you’ve said you’ve lived there for 2 years.” “2 years? I said a couple years.” Encapsulates this entire debate so perfect it’s insane.

[@canislupus3655]

What, Destiny not hearing what the guy said? I'm confused

[@TurtleChad1]

Lebanon has the right to defend itself

[@RV-vx9ek]

​@canislupus3655 "Couple" literally means 2. The guy is dumb, if he lived there for more than 2 years, you wouldn't say couple.

[@okotta915]

@@canislupus3655 2 years is a couple years. Couple = 2

[@ericsonofjohn9384]

@@okotta915 He said he spent most of his life there and grew up there. "spent most of my life there / I grew up there" does not equal "a couple / 2 years"

[@raeedmundow5330]

Hi druze here, me and probably 90% of druze world wide do not share his views. And yes most druze including myself support and want to live in Israel rather than muslim imperialists

[@pez-core]

I genuinely thought he lied about being druze. I'm Jewish and the moment he said that he thinks that there are like 3 million druzes in Lebanon and Syria alone I was just like buddy, I don't know about that one? lol.

[@raeedmundow5330]

@@pez-core yeh he doesn't really look druze, i'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say hes druze. then hes a spoiled brat living a westerner life not knowing how much his ancestors suffered under islam

[@reychechil43]

Druze are amazing people we love you in Israel❤ very respectful warm people 🙏

[@ravenmusic6392]

Most Druze in the Golan heights have refused Israeli citizenship. You don't have to support Iranian imperialism to understand this, and you being Druze has nothing to do with this fact

[@Tomer-oy1hj]

תבורך, אח שלנו

[@johnleoks7642]

Temu Hasan 1. Doesn't know what Palestine is. 2. Can't provide proof of mass starvation beyond Twitter pics. 3. Thinks hundreds of thousand of Palestinians have died without any evidence. 4. Doesn't know what "estimate" means. 5. Doesn't know what existed prior to the British mandate. 6. Doesn't think the kingdom of Israel existed. 7. Doesn't know the definition of "couple". 8. Lied about living in Lebanon for most of his life. 9. Can't answer direct questions and constantly pivoted to other points. 10. Can't admit that hijacking planes is terrorism and is bad. 11. Thinks countries having defined borders is a "white" concept. This is the best the Palestinian supporters have. Sad really.

[@tropicthunder84]

Best Palestinian supporters have? I bet most people would have no idea who this guy is

[@aliciamarquez251]

Cuck

[@aliciamarquez251]

Why these whites still talking about this issue 😅😅😅

[@Bansheeflyr]

I would agree with you, except for the last part. This is definitely not the best they have, your points 1-11 demonstrate that.

[@futon2345]

Mispronounced apartheid

[@Xalrider]

This guy blockades Gaza, takes all of their cooking grease supply and applies it to his hair

[@intermediate212]

You mean rUHZZa right?

[@JJ-qc6lh]

00:30 he calls hezbolla a secular leader group. bruh. hezbolla literally translates to 'the party of god'. what an absolute buffoon.

[@harshdeshpande9779]

2:17:12 It later turned out that he thought secular means elected.

[@JJ-qc6lh]

@harshdeshpande9779 hmm ok although that also doesnt make sense since they were never elected

[@winnerwatson1883]

How the year started: ‘What is an insurrection?’ How the year ended: ‘What is a Palestinian?’

[@kennyevans6197]

''what is a woman '' has that one been settled yet?

[@winnerwatson1883]

@@kennyevans6197 Why? Did you want to be one?

[@Goulash45]

IIRC, the guy with a stripper name couldn’t define “insurrection” in a way that didn’t also apply to the 2020 riots. Lmao.

[@kennyevans6197]

@@winnerwatson1883 Wow so much from so little. i definitely need to keep away from you..

[@younglightskin2685]

@@Goulash45 iirc one of the qualifiers for this definition was forcefully impeding/obstructing a federal preceding which didn't apply to the 2020 riots afaik

[@bitrod]

I feel like I'm watching Destiny debate with a Highschool student who just did a report on the Israel Palestine conflict.

[@puxtbuck6731]

Gen Z/Gen Alpha

[@matsab7930]

You don’t understand that for 99.9% of the population, the last report they ever researched for and wrote was in highschool. These people aren’t intellectually capable of having this debate. I don’t say that as some sort of arrogant person; it is objectively true. This person cannot (or will not) approach this topic with the type of impartiality required to do any quality research.

[@mathieusimoneau3358]

That is about it. The guy is so obtuse he don't even see Destiny is just showing he don't understand his own arguments. Temu : '' They are under siege for 75 years, dying of malnutrition, skin and bones! '' Destiny : '' With an increasing population and 20% obesity rate ? '' Temu : '' I said since Oct 7. '' Destiny : '' You said since 75 years . '' Temu : '' Are you a Nazi? ''

[@0therwisesleep522]

That's insulting. A high schooler would probably be able to talk about it at least a little without needing chatgpt

[@genericamerican7574]

I think a average high schooler could do better. This guy isn’t average.

[@m1sch13f8]

The way he pronounces Arab and Gaza as a Canadian is high octane cringe

[@Joe45-91]

He lived there for two years. Show him some respect

[@weeeek1933]

@@Joe45-91 lmaooo

[@flotots]

​@Joe45-91 Not 2. A couple.

[@joalampela8612]

@@flotots A couple is two. I am done pretending it's not. If you are a couple, you are a pair; two people. To have two couples is to have 4 people. It is two.

[@flotots]

@joalampela8612 I was being sarcastic, I can't tell if you are being sarcastic 😅 but yeah totally

[@MylesMoore]

You can tell this guy practices saying Gaza in the mirror in his off time. It's like ordering spaghetti at a restaurant and acting like fucking Mario to the waitress

[@ded4evrr]

Squiggly little boy hair, Anime poster, che guevara poster, messy ass room. I'm sure this guy is super intelligent and informed.

[@compound118]

This is the sanest twitter communist.

[@lolwhatidk]

"apartheid is when unfair" true man of genius

[@spikeypineapple552]

@@droptableaccount1820 No? And he pretty explicitly says it's bad after the debate.

[@spikeypineapple552]

@@droptableaccount1820 Because he's in a debate, not a conversation. If he were having an informal chat with his friends over a beer, he'd probably preface it with "I think this is a really shitty way to behave, but it doesn't conform to the definition of aphartheid". But he's in a debate, and there's basically no advantage to doing so. Have you ever watched a debate before? And have you ever seen what it looks like when a rookie debater thinks they're going to win favour by giving ground for free thinking it will allow the other side to more easily empathise?

[@fishy_on_me]

​@@droptableaccount1820He literally did though

[@falconeshield]

They just discovered that the north/south Korra border is a form of actual apartheid. So it confuses them.

[@chupapi-o5u]

​@@droptableaccount1820 him not acknowledging fallacies and false claims doesn't mean he's defending their unfair treatment. It's actually worse. Imagine those people having real issues and here we have Internet warriors just making stuff up that don't exist or never happened to earn sympathy points

[@Redninja.]

I love love LOVE how this guy has a problem with destiny "not treating the situation with the seriousness it deserves" and then having a shit eating grin at the Oct 7. question.

[@falconeshield]

These guys would've cheered for Imperical Japan before the war started. Specifically Nanjing and the comfort women crap.

[@dudebro91-fn7rz]

​@@falconeshield i prefer anecdotal japan over empirical japan tbh

[@AthrunWilshire]

The absolute irony of this man being so against Jews and having an Eren Jaeger poster when AoT is an allegory for the Jews being persecuted.

[@tomomihisaya]

I know right? Or when they spout genocidal rhetoric against Jews with a Luffy profile picture. Zero media literacy or any research into the background of what they watch. This is why I just can’t deal with anime fans.

[@DanielCollins419]

@@tomomihisaya Leftist/Communist one piece fans love to talk about politics in one piece until I bring up big mom and her land of "equality". Or the fact Garp and Coby are two of the biggest heroes in the story and are both marines.

[@trevon444]

Not to be that guy, but garp really is a lot of flash over substance. Stands by while the corruption spreads and gets clout for being rogers rival 25 years ago

[@chinchillatwitch7234]

​@@DanielCollins419 or the fact that Luffy overthrown like all these regimes but 9 out of 10 times he just put like a benevolent monarch in its place.

[@DanielCollins419]

@@chinchillatwitch7234 real

[@rEALLYn00B]

In 1:01:27 and 1:01:31, he uses two different pronunciations for Gaza, with the latter being the default english pronunciation. What a damn performative fraud

[@jogadorjnc]

It's kinda crazy how the breadtube side of the internet has gaslit itself so hard into believing Destiny hasn't spent any effort trying to understand the situation in Palestine Between his interviews and debates with Benny Morris, his vyvanse-powered study of every available information source online, and his trip to Israel where he interviewed active/former members of the Israeli government from Shlomo Ben-Ami to Ahmad Tibi, Destiny is probably one of the most informed journalists/pundits in the world on this specific topic Not many people get to sink as much time and money into learning a specific topic as he did Edit: I wonder when he's gonna publish the interviews he filmed in Israel on his channel

[@MNBLUE1]

Unimaginable lack of shame from this kid

[@TurtleChad1]

Destiny's mods have blacklisted certain word and I can't comment them.

[@spellman2250]

@@TurtleChad1chill bruh you comment on every vid 😂

[@CuZtuga]

​@@TurtleChad1who asked?

[@chupapi-o5u]

​@@TurtleChad1 that's probably just KZbin

[@youtubian2500]

​@@TurtleChad1 hi NPC

[@JoelavaJoe]

"What is palestine" "What is this guy saying bruh, I don't even know what you're talking about Destiny, what a stupid question"

[@nashihm925]

"you're so bad faith brah." "chat this guy is crazy brah."

[@xDDufiosy]

he applied Schrodinger's Palestinian. Arabs in Isreal are Palestinian, but are also not Palestinian because then it would mess up his interpretation of the definition of apartheid.

[@davidlovesyeshua]

It's crazy how sometimes people waste so much time not engaging in conversation while simultaneously accusing their interlocutor of being deliberately obtuse or bad faith.

[@TheSwegBucket]

Imagine being so dumbfounded by the topic of your debate. Bro had no idea the depth this debate was going into lmao

[@amp4105]

Hed struggle with the "if you didnt eat breakfast this morning what would you have had?" Question

[@blackburnpl866]

I love how he literally had to pause and always say "GHazaH" in the way to earn those brownie points, I thought I might be an asshole but then I saw him slip up a few time and just normally spell "Gaza"

[@ndartehkewl1282]

Same lmao genuinely made me cringe hearing that bro wants to be arab so bad. I can speak french but I’m not gonna go pronounce champagne “shaumpaugnye” like some kinda knobhead

[@ZzzzJesse24]

@@ndartehkewl1282when I was 14 I had a phase to always pronounce “Afghanistan” with “aughn” at the end thinking it made me cool 😅

[@ndartehkewl1282]

@ lol yeah fortunately you grew up unlike this guy clearly lmao

[@blackburnpl866]

@@ZzzzJesse24 Yeah but you were 14 and in this case it's especially cringe cause guy is larping in middle of debate

[@Jett-King]

It makes me nauseous every time he says it

[@Kansas2SaltLake]

The way this kid says “Gaza” is like nails on a chalkboard to me. You’re from Canada bro stop acting like you grew up there.

[@Nailbunny2702]

Notice how he pronounces 'palestine' as 'filistine', yet manages to pronounce Gaza and Arab. There's no 'p' sound in Arabic, yet somehow these Arabs have always been there and just converted to Islam. It's almost as if the 'palestinian' identity was invented by the USSR-backed Egyptian of the Muslim Brotherhood in western Jordan in 1964. 🤔

[@TheBossBros73]

this is a dumb talking point.

[@54amzaK]

Destiny: *Goes on an impassioned speech about how people just demonize one side of people to make them sound evil and don't actually produce any good solutions to this conflict to close out the debate* This dude: "Nah, Israel are the bad guys"

[@TurtleChad1]

Apartheid bad

[@TurtleChad1]

Breaking human right laws is bad

[@MrShanester117]

Brah

[@pazoned]

​@@MrShanester117omg brah, see this guy destiny, he doesn't even realize destiny is a girls name brah

[@Slickjitz]

I literally laughed out loud. It was like the guy was doing a bit and wanted to say the funniest thing he could but he actually means it lmao

[@zklpr4661]

>Can't define a Palestinian >Can't define Palestine >Can't define apartheid >"Destiny has no idea what he's talking about he just supports Israel for no reason!" omegalul

[@Reconder]

i mean Destiny cant find the volume button so how would he know anything 😂

[@vishg5148]

@@Reconder bait used to be good

[@Human-dr7kr]

⁠@@vishg5148not even bait, truest thing in the whole comment section

[@RelloMelloGarden]

If you support Israel you definitely would've supported chattel slavery and apartheid south africa

[@TrippyPepe]

@@RelloMelloGarden You think 20% Isreali citizens are in 'chattel slavery'? Or under apartheid?

[@ackanomics3615]

As someone who supports the Palestinian people and thinks what is happening to them is disgusting, this guy doesn't care. These people only care about arguing that its a genocide and/or an apartheid state, not the real human rights violations they are suffering. They do not care about the Palestinian people, and them using them to gain social media status is disgusting. I'm fed up of this from people on my side.

[@dominicormiston2755]

I am curious to know what israel could have done better in response to such a persistent threat in gaza. However, i agree that the situation in the west bank is terrible. It has been awhile since I have done any research on the gazan War so I know nothing of what has been happening recently.

[@gt1r]

@@dominicormiston2755sign a peace treaty, go back to 49-67 borders … if peace treaty isn’t respected, then your case is that much more defensible re: occupying West Bank / Gaza Strip. Since Israel holds all the power however .. it’s kinda up to them to bring a cease fire & peace treaty to the table

[@Sujhavana]

That’s what Destiny talked about today on stream. There are good pro Palestinian arguments that are worth engaging with and that we should be having arguments about but instead nearly all of these conversations are about some bs

[@vger9186]

Fun fact: Israel cares more about Palestinian lives being saved then Palestinians do.

[@daniel280699]

@@vger9186do you referer to hamas group to not Care?

[@PeaceInMidEastPlease]

Bruh the most heartbreaking part of this was discovering he's Druze. 😭

[@nicolemalachi7996]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I'll speak for the Israeli druze, we disown him. Totally brainwashed and ignorant

[@SerenityUwU]

“It’s not an estimate, it’s a specific medical study…that estimated that”

[@zacharyjones2273]

Cant believe Destiny beat up a Lebanese Canadian dual citizen white kid on stream.

[@vishg5148]

Who lived in Lebanon for a couple (2) years

[@RanEncounter]

​@@vishg5148 Which means he grew up there.

[@TobiStarGaming]

Well you have to understand 😅​@RanEncounter

[@JonySmith-bb4gx]

@@zacharyjones2273 that's easy 1. Someone from the region of Palestine and DNA 2. Original land pre WW2 3. Israel conduct . Verified by ICC 4. DESTINY lost to Finkelstein. An actual holocaust survivor

[@speedevil22]

​@@vishg5148 bruh wtf do you mean two, he said a couple!

[@01man01truck]

Destiny, you have to understand that you have to understand to understand what's being understood

[@roymarshall_]

I don't understand

[@Grimpen0]

What you have to understand is that my source is trust me bro. I saw it!

[@Daxank]

you forgot at least 3 "breh" in there

[@LoopyDreamz775]

I think I understand

[@keys5595]

Destiny is such a nice guy for giving us an accurate summation of the debate before it even happened.

[@ryanhall5360]

The people parroting the "Destiny only reads wikipedia" meme really do themselves a disservice because it gives idiots like this an absurd amount of overconfidence going into a debate where he's very clearly outclassed in terms of depth of knowledge

[@dudebro91-fn7rz]

Destiny has gotten absolutely recked on some issues tho, so the meme isn't completely wrong

[@A94-c5z]

"Palestinians can't become Jewish"? Literally anyone could convert if they are genuinely interested and committed. How many Palestinians ever even tried to convert?

[@TgarMask]

Aww it's baby Hassan. He copied the name, the talking points and even the racial slurs. Truly embodying left wing values

[@ghosthunter0950]

As someone from the region, you guys thinking these people are leftists by western standards is just hilarious. They talk and behave like a significantly more extreme version of the far right, but they do a I love communism so you guys label them as left lol. None of these guys has ever argued for things like minority rights in Arab countries nor ever will unless they get called out for it and then they pretend like they care.

[@jeffgojail]

These are not left wing values. These are online tankie communist values. These people represent about 5% of the party. Most registered Democrats don't even know who the fuck Hasan Piker is, much less his mini-me's.

[@markallen6433]

But he innovated by putting the SS logo on his forehead with hair

[@JonySmith-bb4gx]

Didn't destiny lose to Finkelstein

[@mathieusimoneau3358]

@@JonySmith-bb4gx Nobody ever lost to Finkelstein. You just have to read the notes contradicting himself he wrote in his books.

[@SpaceGravy]

Bro pronounced “Gaza” differently every time.

[@Grimpen0]

What you have to understand is that his fans like that.

[@Raptor810Blue]

@@Grimpen0how does a guy who only exists on twitter have fans 😭

[@zmo1ndone502]

I hate when ppl do that

[@hartyewh1]

Huzzah, Ghazzah, Gazzah, Ghussah🙈

[@booz394]

Gahhhhzahh

[@itaytal6628]

He is weaponizing a technical word, defends it to his last breath, then mumbles about technicalities. Good job pronouncing Gaza though.

[@Jensen8918]

Arht-Za

[@douglashyslop2209]

That is annoying. I don’t know why people do that it just sounds so fake.

[@dudebro91-fn7rz]

​​@@douglashyslop2209 lmao facts, i hear pro pali wahmen on here with the most valley girl accent ever who say it like that its so cringe lol

[@LoudestHoward]

"Apartheid is when unfair?" lmao

[@Wisoo]

"Destiny used debate bro tactics and cut me off every chance he got, bad faith arguments blablabla" holy shit talk about having zero self awareness.

[@blackrosed8068]

Why does he say Palestinian in english, Gaza in arabic and West Bank in english?

[@douglashyslop2209]

I know, that is annoying as hell. It’s little Western kids trying to sound super cool by sounding like they are about to spit on you when they say certain words. Ben Shapiro does that as well. It’s weird.

[@ShamriCayia]

Its called manipulation

[@Lawh]

Because there is a more than 0% chance to get laid doing that.

[@gat2asp919]

For the same reason white bread Hispanics pronounce every Spanish name city or country like they grew up in the mountains of the Yucatan peninsula

[@fluffythedragonslayer]

Every time this guy says "Gaza" i recoil in disgust at his phony Arab-larping pronunciation

[@vger9186]

I mean technically Gaza is Egypt so that means Palestinians are occupying Egypt.

[@noamlifshitz1648]

And it’s not even how the natives pronounce the name..

[@falconeshield]

Egypt doesn't want the land back they want the Palestinians to stay in one place. What does that mean about Palestine?

[@Daxank]

@@noamlifshitz1648 Well duh, they obviously don't pronounce it differently everytime they say it 🤣 bro couldn't stick to one pronounciation

[@Wingster]

This guy is the most shameless ChatGPT warrior i've ever seen😭😭

[@Symphony10618]

The irony of someone demanding an unlimited right of return for Palestinians then saying that the Jewish history in the area is too long ago……

[@thebruh9547]

Him saying Gaza like that feels like being in an italian restaurant in America and whenever you order a dish like spaghetti, you use an italian accent

[@MarthaMacArthur]

Cwoissant 🥐

[@Jensen8918]

Art-hza

[@edihayat]

EXACTLY ❤

[@JUST_RELAX703]

they say it on purpose in order that it will sound like arab word but in fact the origin of the word "Gaza" is "Aza" and it comes from the jewish bibel that discribed a caninate kingdom

[@JonArgos]

The anti genocide duder glorifying one of the biggest genociders in anime lol

[@railroadforest30]

Also glorifying Che Guevara who committed atrocities and said that nuclear war was a reasonable way to bring about political change

[@LoudWaffle]

One of the biggest genociders who was also part of a race that was an allegory for Jews in WWII lol… you can’t make this shit up😅

[@oltimos8888]

This guy is just a clown

[@Dark-uk4oz]

Are you unable to make the distinction between the actions of a fictional character and deaths that occur in real life? What a stupid comment.

[@dkoda840]

@@Dark-uk4oz While true the original comment is stupid this guy would actually side with Eren. If terrorism is a valid form of resistance, then why isnt the rumbling?

[@jayl3366]

when a non arabic speaker says huzzza yk they dont know shit lmaooooo

[@crueI]

When a wannabe Spaniard says Barthelona (🥵) instead of Barcelona.

[@indicted_ham_sandwich]

These were the LatinX superheroes sent to solve racism back in the day and they're on their apartheid/genocide arc right now

[@muzzle_4717]

​@@crueIwhen they say "Nicaragua" you know they can't speak Spanish.

[@IoIocaust]

​@@crueI BAR :P ELONA

[@Eric-qc6bb]

@@muzzle_4717wait im confused on this one wdym gang

[@nicbrown1304]

Legend has it that this guy is still screaming "You have to understand" over and over to this day.

[@JonySmith-bb4gx]

@@nicbrown1304 Destiny : Israel is not committing crimes against Palestine . (Ignoring ICC verdict) Also destiny : ChInA iS kIlLiNg uyghurs (debunked in UN)

[@jdjenk04]

@@JonySmith-bb4gx Lefties: misquote ICC so much so that one of the people who was part of the ruling said they never claimed it was a genocide and that people are grossly misquoting their ruling. Lefties: huh? What? Bonus meme: the UN’s OHCHR concluded that China might be committing human rights violations and is definitely violating international law as it pertains to the detention, imprisonment, and removal of Uyghurs in China. “…restrictions and deprivation more generally of fundamental rights, enjoyed individually and collectively, may constitute international crimes, in particular crimes against humanity.” Lefties: huh? What? Who knew lefties were just as misinformed and spreading propaganda as MAGA?? Birds of a feather flock together I guess!

[@Jonesyyy12]

⁠@@JonySmith-bb4gxsmooth brain replied with ICC verdict when he didn’t read it cause it doesn’t say that and never said that about China wonderful lying here on both ends😂

[@HeartlessRival]

This exchange hit me the worst "Tons of people are starving" "How many?" "We can't know there's no infrastructure" "How do we know there are 40 000 deaths then?" "No no there's 500 000 are you saying that's not true?!"

[@caseypdx503]

He says the death numbers haven’t been updated past 40k, and a 2 min google search debunks this using numerous sources. The amount of bad faith and misinformation taken at face value by this guy is simply astounding

[@MateoMPM]

To me it's sad that people consider Hzbollah a resistance force after they Kllled thousands of innocent Syrians and played an important role in Lebanons downfall.

[@falconeshield]

You use the term resistance to an Islamic terrorist group shows that you have no idea what that word means. Or you like the R&R meaning of it. Hez was also on ASSAD'S side so nice try.

[@oltimos8888]

Yeah like how can you consider a terror group that does terrorism a resistance group? Its just so idiotic

[@MeNameDark]

I mentioned in a previous clip, but... He isn't evil, immoral or a grifter, he just lacks the ability to analyze subtextual narratives out of fear of being ostracized. He's simply a victim to a very intimidating appeal to morality among his peers and assumes it MUST be correct when thousands of people cry out in harmony over what's occurring in Palestine. They are not looking for rational, because they've been coached to understand that anybody who thinks otherwise MUST be a bad actor, because it's a, seemingly, night and day issue. He can't even come to terms with the fact that Destiny disagrees with almost all of Israel's negative behavior and even in this discussion, you can see his surprise when he says as much, but still returns to preprogrammed responses when Destiny tries to dial him into something he has been misled on.

[@jameslopez9661]

He does it purposely though

[@MeNameDark]

@@jameslopez9661 How can you say something like that with such confidence? When he very clearly believes what he's saying.

[@Marmot_with_a_Branch_of_Plums2]

I was trying to understand this guys thought process and after reading your comment I can kind of see that. Shit is actually sad as hell to see, tbh. Makes me feel bad for the rational Palestinians out there that just want to legitimately share the land peacefully and coexist knowing that these are the kind of people that "champion their cause." Leads me to feel like there is no near term hope for this region unfortunately.

[@Kingslayer1572]

I still think he's immoral to a degree, anyone who supports October 7th is.

[@MeNameDark]

​@@Kingslayer1572 I'm not saying I disagree with you, but when you frame your whole worldview as starwars good vs. evil plot, it's very easy to fall victim to these beliefs.

[@lordhq1449]

drink everytime he says haza

[@Epicurus48]

gaqhaza

[@ryleyt3752]

I died of alcohol poisoning, thanks

[@fluffythedragonslayer]

I hate it, it's like a larp or an act of pretending to know more by pronouncing it more correctly

[@noamcohen7124]

​@@fluffythedragonslayer And you can see it's an act when he stumbles over say Gaza and rafah I'm the same sentence

[@tomomihisaya]

@@fluffythedragonslayerthat’s exactly what it is.

[@annaweisberg8020]

Thanks!

[@ThePuooa]

The guy said he spent most of his life in Lebanon Minutes later says 2 years! Didn’t know Destiny debated 4 year olds!

[@RiceShouldBeFluffy]

Man, this one humanised tiny a lot. You could tell how frustrated and ready to burst he was the whole time but he REALLY wanted to give this kid the benefit of a doubt. He actually tried to treat him like he was just simple a person who has been misled.

[@Tim-Eh]

I'm Canadian. And white. I know more than a handful of people named Hasan. Most were born here. The moment he said that, I knew this was gonna be a good one.

[@noceboaffect3187]

Yes but destiny called him white. Probably not many white people in Canada named Hasan.

[@chupapi-o5u]

Yea but since when do we call arab immigrants white the moment they achieve citizenship from a white country? Not that it matters too much but the kid isnt white. Hes arab. Probably adds on the bias he has

[@Daxank]

Yeah really don't get why he thinks people should just racially profile him based on his firstname.

[@Skratch63]

That shit made my roll out of the back of my head like a bowling alley trip video. Like come on dude

[@LoopyDreamz775]

I’m sorry you have to share the same country as this “Man”

[@Mattropolis97]

I’m almost an hour and a half in. Buddy has clearly NEVER heard the phrase “substantiate your claim” 🤦🏻‍♂️ He couldn’t prove the starvation thing, he couldn’t prove the Hamas long term peace thing, and all he does when called out on it is obfuscate to something else. Disgusting and dishonest.

[@intermediate212]

It's because he lives on Twitter and has no grasp on reality.

[@juan91617]

If I ever got schooled this hard infront of thousands of people I would never use the internet again

[@friendly-nemesis4754]

The subtext/essential summation of all the arguments on the side of the Gazans seems to be "Weak people who feel aggrieved by the machinations of strong people are entitled to get their licks in, and the strong people are obliged not to retaliate".

[@godisgood201]

Destiny: Provides a complex analysis of an issue and asks a question to his opponent Opponent: WELLL here’s another quote Where have I seen this before?

[@rikki15000]

You have to understand.

[@RiceShouldBeFluffy]

It's all just viral quotes on instagram from books they didn't read by partisan hacks and factoids from infographics with these people.

[@austinhadley6086]

Oh this guy has 100% seen clips of finkledink and claims to have read his books

[@Kelvasisthebest]

Literally every pro-Hamas debater ever. They have to live in quotes, because reality doesn't match their arguments.

[@totorosdad7965]

The lack of knowledge combined with total arrogance and undeserved confidence is what bothers me the most. Haza

[@pierre.wallstroem]

His master HamasAbi taught him well.

[@AjaxDGonzo]

@@droptableaccount1820so then that would make him a hypocrite. I don’t think citizens and non citizens have the same rights, that’s not my opinion, it’s a matter of fact. Im pretty sure destiny would be able to understand the difference and the nuance, it’s not as black and white as you’re making it out to be.

[@AjaxDGonzo]

@ again, gross mischaracterization of what’s going on. It’s like you see the world like it’s chalk-full of Disney villains.

[@picklerick8971]

Correct, he was just trying to explain that it was unrelated to race therefore it wasn't an apartheid, that was his whole argument and people are somehow thinking he supports the treatment lol

[@picklerick8971]

No, he told this guy to give his own definition. The guy stated that it was an apartheid because of "racial inequality" and Destiny is just countering by saying that it is not racial whatsoever but it might be because of nationality, very simple.

[@camelloy]

I love how he completely gives the game away up front about Israeli people being equivalent to a racial group and later referring to them as zionists lmao

[@camelloy]

@ I want you to read your own statement and tell me what about that necessitates or even implicates a racial dynamic

[@camelloy]

@@droptableaccount1820 Im not even going to humor this unless you can recognize how insanely you just moved the goal post here. Do you recognize that your original comment in no way implicates a racial motive or not because if you don’t then I am forced to assume you’re on par with every single democrat that would see a racial motivation in such a hypothetical.

[@cooper5602]

​@droptableaccount1820 its literally baseless, but it's don't think that would happen. Now, if it was enforced in an obviously racist way then yes people would call it a racist policy, even if race isn't mentioned in the policy itself.

[@scarecrowbar3375]

PLO was formed in the West Bank while it was under Jordanian rule, so telling people they were fighting against occupation is a lie.

[@MG-pj2oo]

I honestly don't know what things would look like without you, Destiny. Really grateful for your normalcy, intelligence and immaculate ability to articulate the insanity in people like the Hasan's. How people that ridiculously void of their own opinions and half a clue what they're talking about can assert such intense bs on giant platforms is beyond frightening and sad. Thank you for being the beacon of reasonability in a sea of absolute degenerates. You give me hope.

[@Sujhavana]

1:01:25 so he says “Gaza” with an accent but “Gaza strip” normally? 💀 This is so cringe

[@anonymooseplays3905]

Fun fact: The Ccchhazza Strip is the most densely populated open apartheid air state prison camp genocide in the world.

[@tonybankse]

Nah dude was 100 percent using chat gpt 😂😂😂😂😂

[@tomomihisaya]

Al Jazeera GPT

[@Daxank]

To be fair it's not impossible that he was citing sources that DID use chatgpt

[@anonymooseplays3905]

No, he used Claude.

[@JonySmith-bb4gx]

@@tonybankse you described Steven

[@Samuel-tq9jx]

@@JonySmith-bb4gxrage bait or retardation 🧐

[@austinhadley6086]

He's got to be lying about being Druze too... Druze is an ethno-religion that predates Islam as a form of levantine monotheism unique to a specific tribe of people. No practicing druze would say they were Lebanese, they would say they were druze, because they're druze and not Lebanese. The druze identity, as an ethno-religion, is insanely important to Druze people.

[@franklingoodwin]

So are the Jews an ethno-religious group. They still identify as Israeli if they live in Israel. I'm not sure you're entirely correct there, especially since a 2008 census in Israel said 94% percent of Druze in Israel identify as Israeli-Druze. So it would surely translate to Druze in Lebanon identifying as Lebanese-Druze since Lebanese is a nationality. Or are you saying the Druze have no nationality?

[@tiggerbane4325]

@@franklingoodwinthis does not follow the Lebanese-Druze community could very well not see themselves as Lebanese whilst the Israeli ones do due to a variety of factors from oppression by local terrorists groups to how the state was set up.

[@franklingoodwin]

@tiggerbane4325 that wasn't the argument being made by OP though. His argument that was on ethno-religious grounds Druze object to being considered as Lebanese. So, yes it does figure that those in Israel would object to being called Israeli if that was indeed the case. I don't know why you went to Israel treats it's Druze population better and that's why the Druze in Israel consider themselves Israeli-Druze if you actually understand the points the OP was making.

[@austinhadley6086]

@franklingoodwin why would a practicing Druze outright identify as Lebanese, instead of saying "Lebanese-Druze" or "Druze from Lebanon?" What I'm saying is that the ethnic and religious identity are *really* important to religious Druze people and he claimed to be a practitioner of that specific ethno-religion.

[@itaye666]

@@tiggerbane4325 What got me what that he's a Druze who supports Hezbullah... I mean FFS

[@godursolamehahaxd9909]

The worst part about this was the closing statement where destiny genuinely tries to level with the kid. I really thought lil bro was listening to him, but nope. This debate was another dose of the "college aged kids should be banned from political discourse" blackpill. And yes, that goes for the ones in DGG chat too.

[@SHADOWCLOUDGAMING]

4:30 A white western dude from Canada saying Gaza like this is immediately discredited in my opinion. Saying Gaza with an Arabic affectation as someone who grew up in Canada and doesn't have an accent at all is the most cringe virtue signal ever.

[@picklerick8971]

This guy shit pronunciation is the reason why I stopped listening

[@nealhuffman7684]

It was genuinely sad and frustrating at the end when destiny was talking about the problem with narrativizing from both sides and this guy is nodding along or shaking his head at the stories while completely missing the point of the statement as a whole

[@topaz2821]

Love classic destiny content like this

[@TheFadedSpade35]

Even though we disagree on a good chunk of stuff, Destiny easily has some of the best content of anyone. Only wish I found him years earlier

[@goodtimeenthusiast7213]

@@TheFadedSpade35 its better you found it now so you won't be disappointed with how its been lately

[@TheFadedSpade35]

@goodtimeenthusiast7213 what do you mean by that? I've been watching for a while, haven't noticed anything off

[@ogbmt]

​@@goodtimeenthusiast7213 When was it best? What would be a good range of years to look at for his best content?

[@stratisclouds]

Yeah he’s really strong and effectual in this topic and it’s very entertaining when he is this strong in a topic

[@PirateFoxBox]

this guy was like an ai caricature of every debate on this subject

[@reddillon8425]

well he is reading directly off of chatgpt

[@marketads1]

Palestinians don’t equal terrorists.

[@IssAHeYY]

"Mom can we have Destiny v Hasan debate?" "No, we have Destiny v Hasan debate at home" *Destiny v Hasan debate at home*:

[@BrianDeCosta]

Bro really just got on the stream to read 💀 also literally said "I spent the majority of my life in Lebanon" then 10 minutes later "I said I lived there for 2 years"

[@VestinVestin]

There is no logical contradiction here... as long as we assume he's less than 4 years old.

[@hadalabyss]

this point is a bit too masturbatory it is obviously the case that "couple" isn't exclusively used to mean 2, the reason he still doesn't quite cut it is because "couple" still signifies a relatively small amount of things even when used informally like that

[@tzurielmeir4729]

@@VestinVestin Mentally, that is.

[@disbsam333]

“i didn't say only two, I said a couple." What a bright individual...

[@מעייןחברון-ט9י]

Less than 70 seconds into it and he's already being homophobic. Damn that's a speedrun.

[@Kloutkulture]

How is he being homophobic

[@ReddFoxx1562]

​@@Kloutkulturehe brought up those types of activities as a negative

[@Goulash45]

You can take the boy out of the oppressively anti gay theocracy, but can you take the oppressively anti gay theocracy out of the boy? Lol

[@burnbird16]

​@ReddFoxx1562 I think it was the Nazi part he objected to, not the giving head. Then again this kid thinks he's black so yeah, he prolly hates gays.

[@andreas0101]

Everytime he says "Gaza" Im pretty sure he is not straight neither.

[@sidoh47]

Settle down guy, I didn't say I was there for two years, I said a couple

[@sidoh47]

It's not an estimate, it's a specific medical study that estimated that

[@jaiden3473]

Genuine question, how many years have you lived in Lebanon?

[@Daxank]

@@jaiden3473 personally, enough to know that a couple means 2

[@Jimmertt]

Dude literally has a che guevara poster in his room, should tell you enough

[@Paul-fritz.]

He reads several quotes from human rights organizations, most of which turned out to be organizations for the Palestinians, and not for "human rights." He changes terminology if it doesn't fit what he's written. And these are the people "who understand the subject." It's sad how ignorant the younger generation is today.

[@NoOperator]

Knew it was over once I saw the Lelouch Discord PFP with the Eren Yeager panel in the background.

[@pickledokra2963]

Aot fan yet hates jews lol

[@abdimalikelmi729]

Yo wild seeing you here bro, your hakari vs waffle guy video was awesome

[@g.holmes9930]

No way LOL

[@dddssuyfht1970]

No operator here?

[@TheSwegBucket]

100% thinks Eren was justified lmao

[@Tripster234]

Am I the only one that finds it super cringe when someone that doesn't have an accent pronounces everything normally except a few words?

[@roymarshall_]

It's textbook virtue signaling

[@reddillon8425]

If someone actually speaks the language it's not cringe for them to pronounce the names of things in that language properly. If we take his claims that he lived in Lebanon at face value then it would make sense for him to speak Arabic, and thus it would make sense to pronounce the names in an Arabic way. (It would be weirder for someone who speaks Arabic to NOT pronounce Arabic words in an Arabic way, THAT would be forced) that being said, I'm 90% sure he's either never lived in Lebanon or MAYBE he was born there and moved away when he was like 2 years old or MAYBE he vacationed there with his family on and off when he was a kid, he's obviously a rich kid, literally every communist is.

[@sinatra222]

Yep, AOC does this too. Cringe to the max.

[@nicholasg.5441]

If there truly was apartheid, how does a one state solution help palestinians? One sentence in and i already have questions

[@gabraham9509]

He's saying a one state under *hummus*. And yeah he's completely lost in the sauce. All he knows is his propagandised narrative. It's insane to me that he doesn't have crazy cognitive dissonance from how obviously little he understands this issue... Some Palestinians definitely would prefer a one state under *hummus, but to pretend that wouldn't be cataclysmic for Israelis is nuts. Also, hummus is at least 50% responsible for all the suffering their people have been going through, so even assuming things would be good under their victorious rule is delusional imo. It is interesting to hear a perspective that's so confidently misinformed though. I always find it hard to understand how these people think.

[@falconeshield]

Because places like Ireland, Spain (irony of ironies) and Norway are salivating at the false idea that all Israeli lines are Palestinian. With that logic though every land conquered through war by anyone else outside of Israel is apartheid and illegal. If we are gonna change the rules of war and winning battles for Israel it should could for everyone. Whoops.

[@oltimos8888]

​@@gabraham9509100%*

[@jamesburgess2k]

I'm always astounded by the pure arrogance they have when they NEVER seem to realize when destiny is playing dumb by asking "simple questions", and instead genuinely thinks he's legit dumb without understanding they're just walking directly into a trap destiny is laying out.

[@nadavshaa5230]

I'm israeli and I agree so so much about this double narrative problem... I'm trying to explain it for years to everyone I know on both sides but its like they are programmed to accept only the version they grew with... so frustrating

[@MrzPicklez]

He’s talking about colonization… while being a colonizer on First Nations lands. The fvcking irony. lol.

[@falconeshield]

The baizous never get it. Israel is one of the few stories where conquered land got won back by the natives. Greece, Spain, Malta are the same. If you're a white American or Canadian, chances are the GRT benefitted you. Aka, you want to oppressors to leave Israel so bad? Lead by example. See your ancestors and move back to either Britain or TNs.

[@Soggy__302]

He can't take a shower until he wins an argument. Who knows how long it's been.

[@falconeshield]

A decade

[@Weernfn]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Operation_C4]

You can see he is GLUED to whatever AI tool or script he's using. It's like a kindergartener trying to cheat on his english quiz in full view of the teacher.

[@muncher222]

I love how the pro pally crew have a infinite amount of contextual laden unyielding understanding for the foibles of the Palestinians but have the clearest, most perfectly super villan characterisation on hand for Israel, which is expanded to anyone who has Jewish DNA in their ancestry for the last 3000 years.

[@belle-sd6uv]

I love how he calls Hezbollah a “resistance group” from his cozy home in Canada.

[@theelephantintheroom1055]

I can't stand people that "correctly" pronounce things when they don't have that accent at all. It's performative and insulting. It's like TV cooks that add Italian accents whenever they pronounce spaghetti. It's really f'ing annoying.

[@gdmango783]

It's like he had to look more impressive cause he doesn't know shit otherwise

[@Giblets0000]

Overconfident-check Retarded-check Chat GPT-of course

[@piccoloatburgerking]

October 7th was the last time that guy showered lmao just look at how musty he looks.

[@silverstorm1000]

I can smell this video. Bleh.

[@lil_pan46]

I’m ngl he’s probably just going for that greasy revolutionist eboy tik tok look

[@greendalf123]

Our shower

[@TurtleChad1]

It's called resistance sweetie

[@rc7625]

​@@TurtleChad1Resisting what? Soap and deodorant?

[@Darklordiban7]

"Do you think toothpaste is effective at preventing tooth decay?" "It has fluoride in it!"

[@lookatmepleasesir]

with that complexion he would be called a white coloniser if he were israeli

[@mikeyg9958]

My conspiracy theory is that Hasan sent this guy to debate for him.

[@rapaore]

How does Destiny have the patience to discuss with someone so obtuse for over two hours? I would end the conversation with an upturned table and a headache after 15 minutes.

[@MrSenserus]

It’s good content, occupies a number of hours, keeps the chat happy and gives him KZbin and clip channel content. It’s good business. Plus, Destiny doesn’t agree with the pro Hamas narrative, of course, so showing how weak their arguments are serves to strengthen his own side. Seems fairly clear to me.

[@rapaore]

@@MrSenserus I didn't ask why, I asked how... you need nerves of steel not to explode in this conversation

[@MrSenserus]

@@rapaore Yeah I guess I was saying that it’s easier to explain ‘how’ one can contain their nerves if there’s some superior motive that supersedes the annoyance experienced

[@PairyKurta]

16:08 im CRYINGGG the way he goes straight to reading after saying its a good question (he can read his chatgpt summary he prepared)

[@TheHypno123]

The way not even a minute after, he gets called out to scroll back up on his chatgpt prompt to re-read his summary on an Apartheid. WHICH HE DID UNPHASED. This dude is so fucking lost. There is still an hour left as well, marvelous.

[@tomomihisaya]

@@TheHypno123he fell for it that was so hilarious

[@friedporchetta]

Thank god someone else pointed this out. I had to rewind and play it over, I thought “no way this dude just reread his script, with no emotion or change” lol

[@Kelvasisthebest]

"FINALLY A GOOD QUESTION!" = "Finally, a question that was covered by the thing I'm reading from..."

[@trashdoge1217]

The ending is so poetic destiny goes on about how this conflict is do misconstrued and dummed down to fit narratives from both sides just for mr lukewarm 70 ig himself to go "this conflict isnt complex my side is good their side is evil" fucking perfect

[@mathieusimoneau3358]

This sums up pretty well the average pro P. Temu : '' They are under siege for 75 years, dying of malnutrition, skin and bones! '' Destiny : '' With an increasing population and 20% obesity rate ? '' Temu : '' I said since Oct 7. '' Destiny : '' You said since 75 years . '' Temu : '' Are you a Nazi? ''

[@ZoRoaStErR2299za]

"Two years?! I said a couple years!" lmao

[@ephraimherer9406]

A couple can also mean a few

[@alexalford7874]

@@ephraimherer9406 He said "most of his life" though. If he's 22 then there's no way "most of his life" can ever be described as "a couple years"

[@Daxank]

@@ephraimherer9406 actually, a couple means 2. A few means a few.

[@IborAio]

​@@ephraimherer9406If he meant a few he'd say a few

[@matsab7930]

@@ephraimherer9406I mean yes people use the terms equivalently. They’re doing so improperly; it’s people being bad at English lol. Regardless, as others have said, in no universe would ‘most of my life’ be described as ‘a couple years’.

[@TheGabrielPT]

Bud doesnt know what secular means lmfao

[@end_managed_democracy]

I sure do love my radical Islamist secular groups!

[@gabraham9509]

​@@end_managed_democracyIt really confuses me that people either don't care about ideology, or are so absurdly ill-informed about their ideologies. Like, how are we at a point where terror * ism is no big deal to these people. They either forgot what that means or they don't believe it happens there and it's all just an American psyop. It's really strange. Or even beyond that, they have no problem accurately pointing out the problems of religious fundamentalism when talking about Republican Christians or extremist zio**sts, but for Islam they brain malfunctions. It's like they're so afraid of being Isla*ophobic they can't even compute that there are extreme elements of the religion that are very problematic to say the least.

[@anonymooseplays3905]

@@end_managed_democracy New JREG ideology just dropped.

[@fastmotionforme]

Hezbollah literally means Party of God in Arabic. This guy did so much damage to Palestinians 😂

[@tooitchy]

this dude talking about the water in Gaza, talking about israel destroying the desalination plant.....Israel built them that desalination plant, Hamas dug up the pipes and made the desalination plant unusable lmao

[@tarfielarchelone2674]

They de piped it while active that's wild.

[@tooitchy]

@@tarfielarchelone2674 They literally filmed it themselves dude

[@friendlyanders]

this guy trying to roleplay by saying ruzzah, uzzah, guhzuh, rezza over and over and then forgetting a couple of times and just saying Gaza was peak comedy