Very satisfied reading through most of the comments here. Really appreciate the common sense singaporeans have. We must not forget how vulnerable we are and at what did our peace cost us.
@ManoK549 ай бұрын
The government puts nation’s peace and harmony as our cohesiveness is the main, which is appropriate.
@RaptureOnCloudNo.99 ай бұрын
Hats off to Fahima for being brave enough to voice up publicly for her own beliefs, especially as a female muslim. As safe as singapore is, I think we cannot rule out the possibility that Fahima is putting her own safety at risk by doing so.
@AbdulRahman-dx5ur9 ай бұрын
🤨 What are you implying exactly, about who may disagree with her and what they may do to her?
@n.hishamn.hazelinah69629 ай бұрын
Stupid is knowing the truth seeing the truth but beleiving the lies
@noproblematallmate9 ай бұрын
Thankfully Singaporeans are mostly educated so we use logic even when we are affected by emotions.
@godwynsubramaniam15039 ай бұрын
Kudos to Singapore & Singaporeans. This is a very matured & balanced discussion.
@v1ct0rx249 ай бұрын
As much as we are encouraged to pick a stand, i think we should not rush to be hostile to others and give ourselves some time to reflect and educate ourselves first
@johnlay30409 ай бұрын
Geeze, how much more you should see and hear before you acknowledge that a genocide is being committed in Gaza. You, Singaporeans should just stop sploshing ketchup all over.
@hopacotha9 ай бұрын
@@johnlay3040 Some Singaporeans only see this problem based on religion. I talked to one, and they didn't know where the West Bank is or why Israelis are called settlers. This happens because the government shares wrong information due to its connection with Israel and because some people don't care to learn about the main issue.
@user473629 ай бұрын
@@johnlay3040don't believe everything you see on the Internet, don't rush to react and call this or that.
@huaiwei9 ай бұрын
@@johnlay3040 and just how balanced is your opinion on this issue then? If Israel wants to conduct a genocide, Gaza will be completely flattened by now with over a million deaths. Why bother giving warnings to civilians there to get away from impending strikes, if Israel just wants to exterminate everyone? Maybe get the glue out of your eyes first before telling others not to splosh ketchup.
@lily198559 ай бұрын
"@johnlay3040, I'm sorry, but we are not binary robots like you. We can condemn terrorism while also condemning any country or organization that goes against humanitarian and international law. It's important to acknowledge that the concept of self-defense should not be used as a cover for genocide. Life is rarely as simple as right or wrong, this or that way. If there were a single solution or viewpoint that is appropriate for everything, there wouldn't be so much conflict in the world today. So, as much as you mentioned that "blood is on our hands," I believe that people who hold biased viewpoints as the only answer to everything won't help lessen the conflict in Gaza. Therefore, blood is also on your hands. The only difference is whether we are ready to be accountable and responsible for own actions. Someone giving biased judgments just because there are no consequences to themselves speaks volumes.
@simplythinking48059 ай бұрын
The Tunku decided to separate Singapore from Malaysia to preserve peace in 1965. He decided on a two-state solution which thankfully worked.
@muaykee29879 ай бұрын
This situation has brought to all in Singapore about the important role of Internal Security Act and the ISD.
@vibr03149 ай бұрын
why so hard to say brought here brought there la just tell SG " dont say anything sensitive topic or discussion" u end up there LOL
@mkang6669 ай бұрын
If nothing happened on 7th Oct, will you all be discussing this issue today?
@fokerfakerfuker9 ай бұрын
that's true. and I suspect that was the intend of Hamas all along. To bring global attention
@Michelle-nm3md9 ай бұрын
Many evidences are pointing to that. Many hamas fronted propaganda PR is every where. When you have a proper analysis of what’s going on. It could be even more sinister than what you thought.
@mrtransmogrify9 ай бұрын
I get what u mean. Sadly in human history, a horrible event somehow always has to be the catalyst for decisive action. Sadly.
@justinianliew67739 ай бұрын
This is really a well produced episode! More people should watch this. Appreciate how the hosts allowed the two guests to speak for most of the video/podcast.
@Michelle-nm3md9 ай бұрын
I deeply sympathise with both the Israelis and Palestinian people. But please don’t allow such rallies. It has nth to do with Singapore and it is hate and fear mongering. If we care so much about them. Donate money and pray for peace, safety or civilians and the release of hostages.
@blissbliss93479 ай бұрын
Is we care whichever party, donate to help and pray for them but please do not do not allow the rallies. Most of the angry is on humanity that we could help from donation but not to make a mess in country. It is no need at all to create discomfort to the civilian. Rallies may easily or could simply become violent or crime.
@lemonrand19 ай бұрын
Should not force people to take sides.. this issues is between Palestinians and Israelis , other than humanitarian efforts, all others seems laced with religious , political or other vested interest..
@jbrkjferkjbekjb9 ай бұрын
really appreciate ong's method of explanation at 10:33. He wasn't phrasing it in an imposing/draconian manner, but rather sought to explain and acknowledge that it is a conservative approach. It makes it much easier for Singaporeans to accept it that way.
@Charlie-fs5qk9 ай бұрын
Yes agreed it does make it much easier for the uneducated to accept that reasoning and swallow this narrative given by the government that aligns with their interests
@fw_youtube9 ай бұрын
As a city-state and just a little dot on the world map Singapore govt & PAP always know how to behave geopolitically - Respect from Indonesia 🇮🇩
@Ianlee19779 ай бұрын
Sigh..this war is going to get far far worse before it gets better. If it ever does. This is not a simple case of black and white and siding with one side or the other like in WW2. This is complicated and complex. For people who are wanting to rant and be pro-one country or another, please don't. I implore you. We have no skin in the game. It is very easy to look at this war on the surface but look deeper into it and it's history and what has led to this. We have no right to judge.
@McPAIKIA9 ай бұрын
100%, as much as i want to care, i really can't put my side in either position. i think for us singaporeans our main goal should be to maintain stability within our country, that is us doing our part.
@johnwig2859 ай бұрын
I think the real issue that wasn't addressed is the COMMUNICATION aspect. How come it is only "respect international law" for one side but when it comes to the other side, suddenly go into specific details of their actions? Why not go into specific details for both?
@BeachBoi10009 ай бұрын
Don’t be over confident that we are a matured society. Overseas players may slip in.
@mamamememoo9 ай бұрын
Also I’m noticing locals posting pictures and contents on Facebook that are alarming. May they remember our local harmony is crucial. We walk along a fine line and we need to be sensible and exercise commonsense and compassion for our safety & our family and community’s safety
@MiaReduce9 ай бұрын
People talk about isreal having the right to defend themselves but what about the attacks on Palestine since 75 years ago? Why condemn Hamas only and never addressed the 75 years of violence made by isreal? The world is enraged because of the blatant biasness against humanity.
@angiemf90339 ай бұрын
Let’s live in harmony. Don’t allow foreign matters influence us. I empathise with their plight. Dismissing the rally was a good move by our Govt.
@mossad14389 ай бұрын
Just had a sudden realisation. Would a normal working class singaporean working long hours just to pay the bill really care or be bothered by this issue ? 😢
@elysa11499 ай бұрын
Ms Faheema is really well spoken!
@fiddlefoddle9 ай бұрын
This video made me realised how fast I jumped into the immediate news, i think they brought up good perspectives and I feel more collected from this convo! Good choice of guests :)
@vanderbeekaisha9 ай бұрын
we stand united as a family . no matter what race religion or statues.. and i thank our government for their multiracial harmony policy and law ..
Didn't a Malaysian politician just recently said that Singapore belonged to Malaysia and should be returned? Soooo according to him Singaporeans are living on occupied land now? same same but different?
@anchored5559 ай бұрын
Conveniently ignoring the fact that the Sultan and Temenggong of Johore ceded Singapore to the British East India Company in exchange for a lump sum of money, raised allowances and permission to live on land set aside for them in SG. So can I sell you my car, receive payment for it, and then demand the car back?
@sitiaishahabdulrahim94239 ай бұрын
That depends on how far u go back in history.....israel claims the land is theirs based on 2000 yrs of history and the whole world just lapped it all up.
@sitiaishahabdulrahim94239 ай бұрын
100 yrs ago , there was no Israel..... 2000 yrs ago , sg was part of the malay kingdom....see? Our view will be affected by our internal biases.....except the one who is able to put aside personal interests and put the truth in the forefront . He who fears loss of worldly materials will see the israel - palestin issue differently from he who fears God ie Seekers of truth.
@anchored5559 ай бұрын
If you go back far enough in history, the Malays apparently came from the Yunnan region in SW China and the Orang Asli arrived in the Malay peninsula before they did. Who are the rightful owners of the land then? If you go far back enough in time, we were all migrants. As for who the land of Israel belongs to, Islam, Judaism and Christianity may have different answers. Yet each believes they are right.
@dancingspeed9 ай бұрын
@@sitiaishahabdulrahim9423 There was Israel though. It's called the Kingdom of Israel and Kingdom of Juddah. c. 1047 BCE-930 BCE. Jews have always been in that piece of land even before Islam began. This piece of land went through a series of different rulers that brought many different religions and culture to that area. "Palestinians" (Possibly a mix of Jews/Christians/Muslims) during that time would have been very different from the Palestinians (Muslim majority) today. People in that region became Muslim when kingdoms like the Ottoman Empire/Arab Empires carried out Islamic invasions to expand their kingdom. On the other hand, Palestine has never been an independent state/ kingdom. Even if British didn't designate that land as Israel, it would have been an area under Egypt/Jordan etc. The state of Palestine would not have existed either way.
@mind_in_repose_now12569 ай бұрын
This is what I love about Singapore and most Singaporeans - rational.
@sitiaishahabdulrahim94239 ай бұрын
So those millions of people rallying for palestinians are not rational ?
@sitiaishahabdulrahim94239 ай бұрын
Empathy is the more appropriate word
@rosalindrajaratnam18369 ай бұрын
In my opinion, it is up to individuals who they want to support not for others to tell who we must support
@googooboyy9 ай бұрын
The Palestine-Israel issue will never be solved, as long as injustice, greed and zealotry exists in that part of the world. Peace exist only when children are taught love and compassion.
@eye08078 ай бұрын
I feel minister Ong is sincere and genuine and he speaks well.
@ravikasinathan22369 ай бұрын
Saya sebagai rakyat Malaysia sangat kagum dgn sikap matang dan pemikiran rasional speaker podcast ini. Kita rakyat malaysia masih jauh ketinggalan dlm hal sebegini. Maklum lah MP kita yg kelulusan PhD pun tak tau beza hubungan lim kit siang & "lim" kuan yew 😂😂
@veracdy9 ай бұрын
Thanks for covering this very difficult topic. Nazhath Faheema was also such a great interviewee for this. Her views at 37:00 is perfectly phrased.
@la37149 ай бұрын
Thank you TDK for having this important podcast amidst this period ❤ it’s very much needed
@sitiaishahabdulrahim94239 ай бұрын
Idf carpet bombing thousands of civilians is not an act of terrorism ?
@eye08078 ай бұрын
Israel is never serious with the 2 states solution. Its real intention is to establish a greater Israel. Netanyahu has the audacity to tell Africa that Israel can liberate Africa when he was in Uganda.
@Andy-ik9ti9 ай бұрын
Always love Minister Ong way's of explanation.
@hannah52459 ай бұрын
If a question is asked in this way (is Sg a supporter of Israel?), they are projecting a political outcome to the response! Better not to answer someone who poses a question based on politics, whatever nation you support you will be either be loved or hated! I am a supporter of everyone , no matter what their background, hi or low, religious or not, or whatever social/ethnic/education/ etc, who loves everyone equally, who support ideas of peace amongst ALL! And no violence at all for whatever reasons!
@gasolina44329 ай бұрын
List of Offshore Platform in Palestine 1. NOA Gas Field 2. Mari Conventional Gas Field 3. Tamar Gas Field 4. Leviathan Gas Field 5. Dalit Gas Field 6. Sara and Myra Gas Field 7. Tanin Conventional Gas Field 8. Dolphin Oil & Gas Field (2011) These are some of the oil and gas fields in the Palestine, which hold significant reserves and play a crucial role in the energy resources of the region. Yet, the operators are Israel, US and UK. None of the profit goes to the Palestinian people.
@gweejiahan93369 ай бұрын
Double standard la Wanna say follow International law and order sibo... then where sanctions for Israel? We sanctioned Russia for illegal occupation of Donbass and invasion of Ukraine. So where sanctions for Israel after 2016? In 2016 Singapore was in the UNSC which signed the UN resolution 2334 where Israel occupation of Palestinian land is deemed illegal. Is UN not the international Law and Order we follow? whose international law and order we follow then? What Israel is doing now is totally disproportionate killing, Just ask yourself... if Hamas was hiding amongst the Israelis in Israeli settlements and not in Gaza would Israel still adopt the same tactics and bomb the living shit out of the Israeli settlements like they are doing now in Gaza? They would not.
@victorkan85309 ай бұрын
You do realise that Hamas is a terrorist organisation that attacked and are still holding on to hostages. If you were held hostage by a terrorist and could be killed by their wimps, would you hope that you country come to save you or just leave you?
@Elle523739 ай бұрын
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@JesusChrist-nc1qg9 ай бұрын
Stop anti semitism free Israel!
@quhroki9 ай бұрын
@@victorkan8530 oh so ur saying because they want to kill hamas israel can bomb schools hospitals and buildings?
@Michelle-nm3md9 ай бұрын
It is not an apple to apple comparison. If hamas is so good why didn’t they allow their people to leave after countless warnings.
@mohamedaidrus38869 ай бұрын
WWI and WWII begins in Europe far away from us but the whole world are affected, so even though this happen far away from us we still to be aware and educate ourselves and cannot afford to say since it does not affect us we just ignore it.
@jwlZck8 ай бұрын
first of all its not a conflict..its clearly an oppression by israel and a genocide
@samkwok70579 ай бұрын
You all singaporean must forgot is was isreal who help our military when nobody wanna help us when we became independent 58 years ago. And this kindness is rooted deep within the country.
@jefri41769 ай бұрын
As much as Singapore want to thank Israel and support them,Singapore have muslim citizen who empathize with Palestine. And Singapore also have 2 big neighbours who are crazy about Palestine. So for the sake of Singapore safety,they have no choice to be neutral. Singapore have lots investment in Indonesia,and at the moment Indonesian are fanatics hypocrites who boycott those who supports Israel, namely McD and Starbucks and etc but these hypocrites still use Google,apple ,Facebook and KZbin even though they know google and apple support Israel 🤣🤣🤣
@MrTakoyaki19929 ай бұрын
But that should also not be a free-pass to say "Oh, Isreal is good friend, help us Bulid Army, Therefore please continue with your Genocide spree"
@samkwok70579 ай бұрын
I didn’t say continue genocide. This is xwar. What do you expect? Tell enemy we are coming? And I think isreal is the only nation to notify civilians to move as they are coming in hot. Which nation do this as of today? And imagine some enemy came to our country and, do what they did on Oct 7 Would us just sit back and use diplomacy or fight back?
@kohakuarai9 ай бұрын
I also agree, if we see our friend doing wrong is it not the right thing to call him out so that he does not stray further from the right path? @@MrTakoyaki1992
@HelloHello-qf3ui9 ай бұрын
@samkwok7057 Totally agreed with you bro. I'm so thankful for Israel for helping us back in the days. All our neighboring countries bullied us cos we are small without defence. Without them, Singapore cant achieved independence and reached where we are today!
@edwinwee2679 ай бұрын
WILL RESPONDING TO EVIL BY DOING MORE EVIL LEAD TO A TWO STATE SOLUTUON?
@AbdulHalim-uv1cr9 ай бұрын
While we want to be polically correct, we don't have to be an Arab or a Muslim to understand what is actually happening in Gaza now. We just need to be human.
@huaiwei9 ай бұрын
And one needs to be reminded also that the other Abrahamic faiths have equal rights to stick to their believes, and hence influence their stances on this issue. This is the real and unspoken reason why we officially choose to be neutral.
@pikk25259 ай бұрын
So Hamas is inhumane .. thanks
@razalihusain9 ай бұрын
Definitely, it is wrong to support Apartheid.
@anchored5559 ай бұрын
Apartheid? Arab Israelis serve in the Israeli parliament, judiciary etc. Any Jews serving in legislatures/judiciary in Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and other Arab countries?
@emaho55409 ай бұрын
Singapore do not support any war against civillian or terrorism regardless. We have always uphold peace, support in our small ways we are able to as a small nation. We are also struggling ourselves. Instead, look at what more powerful countries can do better to help.
@huaiwei9 ай бұрын
We don't support a war against terrorism? Eh?
@razzahling89519 ай бұрын
literally not our problem, but various groups (including foreign actors) want to drag Singapore into the political conflict which may end up with serious consequences for all Singaporeans absolutely nonsensical that the government have to make a statement on this, and continue to make statements on the international stage concerning other countries they should stfu, and only advocate international guidelines and law
@yut5769 ай бұрын
The Palestinian-Israel conflict is not just a political one, but it has a religious dimension. One of Islam's holy sites, Al-Aqsa Mosque and many Palestinians are Muslims, making this conflict a very raw and passionate one. Already, the PAP government is viewed as practising a double standard toward Malay Muslims. Hence, the banning of rallies and prayers at SG mosque for Palestinians - makes the swing voters not happy. PAP need to tread carefully if they want to stay in power.
@raydontan13019 ай бұрын
yasiaa and a lot of locals kept blaming tharman for sending israel a condolence letter… so many of them are looking at the current war in a micro perspective which can backfire into a big issue 🗿🗿
@anchored5559 ай бұрын
It is very wise of our government not to allow rallies of any kind supporting either side of the conflict because this is a very emotional and controversial matter that can easily inflame ethnic/religious sentiments, as we have seen happening elsewhere around the world, resulting in social unrest and ethnic/religious strife which can damage the peace and social harmony we enjoy here.
@oliviaruths8 ай бұрын
Israelis are attacking their own countrymen, the Palestinians ethic group that is part of Israel. The point of self defense doesn’t quite apply.
@HareKrishna-iz4ks9 ай бұрын
SYABAS. Singapore and for not being racist wonderful talk I love Singapore u AL r great citizens of Singapore may god bles Singapore n ta citizens TQ. PARVATHI. MALAYSIA
@ongkimchoon73839 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video. We keep hearing about the "two state solution" as the best, but since 1947 it has yet to happen. When it does, for how long? Why do we think the UN has a solution? Remember Korea? That's an example of a two-state solution but with the same people on different ideology. It was the same for Vietnam until 1975. Fast forward to current situation, one side calls for driving J from the rivers to the seas, the other, we can live together but we don't really trust you, hence we need securities. We did hear from the 22 Big Brothers around the region that started war in 1948 and several later wars but have never together say - "enough of war, we made a grave mistake back than and we need to start new for the children and their children future, the people of P for lasting peace". That's a 23-state solution, but do they want it?
@fubar2458 ай бұрын
It is not a religious conflict. Its the right for the natives to defend their rights. Most people start the history on 7th October, and it is a simpler but erronous story. If you understood the many years of brutalization of the Palestinians by the Israelis on a daily basis and ongoing now, then its a different story. For this reason there is a lot of misinformation and omission of vital facts. It is a settler colonisation as is USA where the natives have been subject to a genocide. This is your opportunity to learn more about the injustice of the world, and how it is carried out. Its easy to point to terrorist groups, but then you would be suppressing the real truth and reality. Its a short term action, brushing the serious details under the carpet. A society can mature and be more cohesive if they had an opportunity to develop their understanding and to be in public to rally the injustice. In USA we have whites, blacks, jews and palestinians protesting against the war crimes. Killing more then 5000 children is a war crime.
@hopacotha9 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, many Singaporeans are uninformed about the Palestine/Israel issue and only became aware of it after the event on October 7th. Some may claim to understand the historical background of Palestine and Israel, but I believe these individuals could be considered pseudo-experts. Some might solely believe and unquestionably follow the government's position. I think it is crucial to conduct thorough research before making statements such as advocating for neutrality. There are numerous Jewish historians and scholars, including Noam Chomsky, Ilan Pappe, Norman Finkelstein, and many others, who oppose Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. For a better understanding of why people are protesting and the significance of taking a side, documentaries by Jewish/Israeli directors such as 'Tantura' and 'Life in Occupied Palestine' by Anna Baltzer will help you understand better. Hope this helps! Cheers!
@Johnstone4159 ай бұрын
Educate me about the one day war. I heard that when Israel was formed, as in declared independent and given the land by the British or UN after ww2, within one day 5 other neighbouring states attacked them. And that led to Israel winning and also gaining more land. were those countries correct and what reasons?
@hihi22ify9 ай бұрын
Think you should be one who should be educated
@pal-a9 ай бұрын
Good that singapore is against Hamas millitants.
@Maris_S289 ай бұрын
You mean terrorists
@aniketdighe9 ай бұрын
This is a very mature discussion. Balanced and informative. Giving each other space. Most important build trust when there is peace so that you can deal with issue when things go bad. Much respect.
@emperioszyrandios76679 ай бұрын
I feel that this is quite balanced and a very singaporean ways of viewing world events. I think it's only right for singaporeans and to view this issue not as a religious or race issue but as a Human to human issue.
@fearghalbarry78669 ай бұрын
What does this even mean? Israel is waging a war of ethnic cleansing on the people of Gaza, collectively sticking your head in the sand helps no one.
@bigbirdturkey9 ай бұрын
I disagree. It's a religious war, it has always been, one. "Kill the Jews" the Hzebolah said.
@superbiggulpz9 ай бұрын
haha salute John and Denise for threading ON FINE GLASS for this episode!
@omarshamri71399 ай бұрын
A sensible conversation on a very complicated subject kudos.............🤔
@sathiyaperkash5 ай бұрын
I admire Singaporeans' absolute clarity and cohesive and logically organised thoughts. Allowing for space for intellectual discourse.
@gohal74859 ай бұрын
Thank you Ms Faheema for your views. My understanding that you express so well as a Singaporean and all the more as a Muslim. One have the right to defend one country (not pointing on Hamas but on the humanities kind) The Israeli want all the Palestinian to move to the south-as a Singaporean mindset I'll stay put to where I am because this is my country and I've the liberty to move around the country as I wish
@huaiwei9 ай бұрын
"The Israeli want all the Palestinian to move to the south". Eh? Where did that come from?
@tanimaju54469 ай бұрын
QS 9 : 29 Fight against those ( jews and non muslim) who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth [i.e., Islām] from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah1 willingly while they are humbled.
@creatrotera9 ай бұрын
As I read through the comments, I'm starting to get worried about how high emotions and tensions are rising. Both parties are getting very heated. Please remember to stay civil people!!!! I must say, I thank Daily Ketchup for hosting this talk. I think it gives much clarification on the government stance.
@jasonsoh799 ай бұрын
I like how the guests are able to have a proper peaceful talk. This is very different from the heated arguments overseas.
@Cookingggggg9 ай бұрын
A lot of misinformation and lack of understanding on the situation.
@wshyangify9 ай бұрын
Supporting HAMAs is like saying the bumiputras have free reign to terrorize Singaporeans justifiably
@jiana58088 ай бұрын
i would like them comeback again and do this kind of discussion again.. let's see if they'll change some opinions
@Choonzord9 ай бұрын
Great Convo and ty for hosting it TDK
@cadalman9 ай бұрын
Thank you Nazath Faheema for mentioning the Baha'i Faith at 29:49. The Holy Land is important to Jews, Muslims, Christians, but also the Baha'i Faith, which has its spiritual and administrative centre in Haifa. When I lived in Singapore, the Baha'is there were (and still are) very active in the Interfaith movement there.
@vanderbeekaisha9 ай бұрын
before 1 wants to give opinion to not be bias is by going both sides and look at the situation .. or even research.. we thank LKY for ensuring law is uphold for citizens no matter what race or religion .. we are treated humanly basic rights,housing,healthcare and security ..
@chiakum9 ай бұрын
As you mentioned LKY 1960s onwards we have been facing threats from our neighbours - Konfrontasi, water issue, Pedra Branca dispute, airspace dispute etc
@yunsuhada22679 ай бұрын
Keep mentioning about International law but never acknowledge about Israelis that has been breaking this law for so many time
@huaiwei9 ай бұрын
While you ignore who has started a string of conflicts there since 1948, and who rejected the UN partition plans which would have led to a two-state solution from the onset in 1947.
9 ай бұрын
@@huaiwei And you seem to be ignorant of what the people had actually gone through in Palestine, the arguments you present are those that Zionist extremists use to justify the ethnic cleansing and genocide of people in Palestine. You are blaming the Palestinians for reacting to the injustice they have gone through under the hands of zionist Israelis, such as the Nakba of 1948 and many more atrocities. Israel with the backing of US and Britain, had started this issue. Do not be ignorant and research the UN Partition Plans and what led to these conflicts and the ethnic cleansing of Palestine. To become more educated on this, you can read The Hundred Years of War on Palestine to fully understand the issue. As always, FREE PALESTINE!!!!
@Michelle-nm3md9 ай бұрын
You need to have evidence to prove that Israel breaks international law. As far as I know. Hamas has and is breaking international law like no other. 1. They attacked civilians with the most atrocious way on Oct 7. 2. They built tunnels under hospitals and schools with money from NGOs 3. They stop civilians from leaving the north to the south. They put barricades to stop civilians from leaving.
@Lyoko1049 ай бұрын
@@huaiweiyour whataboutism is showing
@huaiwei9 ай бұрын
@@Lyoko104 whataboutism refers to fallacies in argument. I am literally stating historical events. If the Arabs accepted the UN Partition plan of 1947, will we still have these conflicts today? If the 6 Arabic states did not conquer Israel and try to whip them off the map in 1948, will Israel be in control of the West Bank or the Gaza Strip? Maybe if everyone agreed to and adhered to international attempts to broker peace since the 1940s, we won't need be debating about broken international laws today?
@Joo-vw9kb9 ай бұрын
How are we able to discuss such matters when KZbin restricts our freedom of speech?
@anchored5559 ай бұрын
Yes, it’s very annoying
@user-ik1wz2nt3w9 ай бұрын
A lot of the comments seem ignorant on what is actually happening between Israel and Palestine (or Hamas, for those who try to dodge the actual issue here). We can all feel patriotic in defending Singapore if we were invaded…but note that the true anger people have against Israel is how much they’ve grown over the years from its original size as a reflection of the genocide they carry. Y’all can be so hyper-focused on Hamas, but whose land is actually shrinking this whole time (look at the map throughout history in case you aren’t aware)? I think when we speak about Singapore, there’s a difference because our land has always been limited to the small island we’re on. This has partly helped to maintain the peace in Southeast Asia, while our politicians are also careful not to provoke neighbours. If Singapore were to continue grabbing land from modern-day Malaysia/Indonesia while crying out our need to defend ourselves if these countries retaliate, then that’s a double standard that is happening with Israel and the nations that support it.
@MyG-kc2id9 ай бұрын
No.
@Michelle-nm3md9 ай бұрын
Many lands were taken away from Israel also because of the many wars the Arab countries were fighting against Israel and Israel won them.
@shabranigdu19 ай бұрын
fun facts: do you know why aid can't get into gaza? the answer is simple. the entire border is walled up with only a few crossing. now, how can the land be shrinking when there's a wall there that hasn't moved in the last almost 20 years?
@tonz55669 ай бұрын
exactly ...and you can see most of the comments seem to side the so called victim who killed more than what the aggressor had killed. it's kind of irony here
@tinkerbell666669 ай бұрын
True. A lot think this started on oct 7, didnt know that hamas was once funded by israel, that this could be the second nakba or even start ww3. I wonder how many know that initially the jews went to argentina, uganda & few other countries & were rejected. That is how they ended up in palestine. Palestine were not even on the list but that is the only country that accepted them.
@ernestbailey66179 ай бұрын
Pity most media is false and that makes it difficult to judge.
@wanganbryan_official9 ай бұрын
*Regardless of race, language or religion. To build a democratic and society. Based on justice and equality. So we as to achieve. Happiness, prosperity, and progress for our nation*
@kingsufi61649 ай бұрын
We all can hold to our own opinion but one thing matter, human lives matter. Also the question you didn't ask.... if we sanction russia, and block junta myanmar with rules from joining ASEAN table, why there is no sanction against Israel? Why diff eh?
@NotesfromtheFuturesPast9 ай бұрын
23:29 Hamas is not designated as a terrorist entity by the UN, and in 2018, the UN General Assembly rejected a US proposal condemning Hamas activities in Gaza.
@anchored5559 ай бұрын
Hamas has been designated a terrorist organisation by the U.S. and the EU.
@Johnstone4159 ай бұрын
After Oct 7 attack, when ordinary civilians were killed, even those Thai workers and Arab workers, is that a terrorist act? Please don't bring innocent people into war.
@verycursedplane65579 ай бұрын
Agree that every country has the right of self defence. But not disproportionately
@Kalimatullah_Yoh1-1.149 ай бұрын
disproportionate due to hamas being too embedded with the society such as buiding tunnels below public buildings and on the ground, within public compounds mainly hospitals.
@lecherhao869 ай бұрын
How do you measure disproportionately then? If my parents and family get killed, would I care whether my shooting kill more than the number on my side is killed? I think this issue is like arguing in a philosophy class. There might not even be a morally right answer at all? I feel that as Singaporean, we can agree to disagree and shouldn't let this matter affect our stability and harmony.
@fokerfakerfuker9 ай бұрын
@@Kalimatullah_Yoh1-1.14 Gaza is the size of Taipei with over 2 million population. I don't see how Hamas could actually build around the civilian structures, even if they had intended to
@musico34159 ай бұрын
Hamas do not love their own civilians yet expect their enemies to love Gaza civilians. Hamas baked babies in oven, raped mothers, humiliated their captives even in death. To them, they are not interested in have two-states peace but the death of all Jews in the world, not just in Israel. Watch what the son of Hamas disclosed at kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZ2YgIKmeKuIedUsi=Qw6iJyhQXJqPaFH8
@octville9 ай бұрын
Disproportionality is a figment of subjective imagination. It transcends beyond body counts. No justification can be made when terror against civilians are involved. International laws allow countries the right to defend themselves as long as the aim is to bring peace in the end. Hamas has no goals in mind except to terrorise and cause fear and mayhem. Israel’s intention is to get rid of Hamas an actor in this equation
@clarityomoregie89349 ай бұрын
I love Singapore stance; it means they are resealable and stand for justice. Let's condemn what is bad irrespective of religion and make the World a better place to live.
@hom3r9 ай бұрын
Seriously I don’t really like to touch and talk about such topics mainly because we aren’t the real victims of the war or conflict. Picking a stand means either side’s victim lives don’t matter? It’s all about politics and dragged the innocent lives at stake which Im very opposed about. Media wants us pick a side but can’t we don’t?
@supriadiramlan55459 ай бұрын
its funny to says do Singapore pro Israel or Palestina :) Singapore should pro themselves why need to pro other countries?
@marialandkroon61849 ай бұрын
. BUT...GOD IS CLEAR!!! read The Bible, how and where this conflict will end EZEKIËL 38:18 JOËL 3:2-3 GENESIS12:3 and for anyone who doesn"t understand people who are pro hamas and their way of thinking read EPHESIANS 4:18 maybe you'll get an idea and some understanding🙏 I stand with Israël💯
@Maris_S289 ай бұрын
I stand with God and Israel.
@Singapre9 ай бұрын
No Malaysian and Indonesian comments here plz how Singapore should run and who we should take stand with...we don’t go around n say how Malaysian and Indonesian should stand with...i have seen enough videos mocking Singaporen not standing with Palestinian
@bomberkenny9 ай бұрын
I hope they won't, but I really admire how Singaporean government and the citizens dealt with this. Ok, I'm flying away now.
@gbterase9 ай бұрын
Cant you see the irony ? Your principles are parallel with the Palestinian people. You dont want to get bullied and controlled.. just like those Palestinians.
@Freepalestin9919 ай бұрын
brothers and sisters ...please read Al Quran..you all will find answers for all problem in the world including Singapore..so please read Al Quran once in you life ..😊
@kiongboonwee45919 ай бұрын
We stand together as one no matter what
@Missburrataprosciutto9 ай бұрын
Great respect for the guests! So articulate, neutral and well put
@HaHa-oy9kv9 ай бұрын
My heart goes to the people of oppressed and occupied , give their home back… 🤍🕊️🍉
@franklee6639 ай бұрын
Sorry I don't really understand the entire context of this conversation. What we should be talking about is upholding international law. Hamas attacking Israel is because of US brokerage of peace between SA and Israel for a purpose, and their holding of hostages is not right, BUT remember Hamas is not Palestine. Today the law against Israel is "Collective Punishment" and "Genocide", and any attempts to call for cease fire has been vetoed by US. Just imagine Gaza has been a open air prison for 46 years, almost as old as Singapore. Besides our own defences, we need the wider International community to protect us.
@anchored5559 ай бұрын
“Genocide” and “open air prison” are some favourite propaganda buzzwords used by the anti-Israel group. Are they correct? Fact: the Palestinian population has actually grown 8x since 1948 whilst supposedly getting genocided. Strange kind of genocide. Fact: There were at least 7,000 foreigners living in Gaza before Oct 7, who were presumably free to come and go as they pleased. Many Gazans also crossed the border into Israel daily to work. What kind of prison (open air or otherwise) offers such arrangements?
@KaiEmblem9 ай бұрын
Singapore should pick a stance with the innocents who fell victim in this conflict..both israeli and palestinians. The politics that caused this war is truly beyond inhuman.
@TIY5559 ай бұрын
i’m glad that normal people watch this with sane comments.
@kayg.vegan.singapore9 ай бұрын
That's why me a Singaporean. Me loving All Nations❤
@vegarden889 ай бұрын
Really appreciate the discussion here, no posturing and all the guests were sensitive and sincere. Wanted to show my appreciation to Ms Faheema for what she does, she sounds really sincerein promoting interfaith harmony. I get the feeling that she's really trying to work towards a more cohesive and understanding multicultural and multifaith society, which is precisely what Singapore needs.i sure hope that the two state solution can be realised in this generation's lifetime, and the constant cycle of hate and distrus will somehow be broken.
@jasminearika92199 ай бұрын
Two state solution is a tough one as long as people in Gaza cannot visit family in West Bank and vice versa. Tough if Jerusalem will always be a contending factor. Peace is inevitable if we keep drawing on the past. Both countries share the same land now and they need to co-exist without one infringing on the other especially forcefully. Clear boundaries were drawn before and they must be respected. In fact, both sides have strengths which they can draw on and work together much like we work together with our neighbours. Many Palestinians in fact, work in Israel through officially issued work visas. Peace would be hard to achieve as long as the leaders of both countries don’t want it. So whatever has been written in charters or strategies must be changed. Whoever is leading both countries has to be held accountable and responsible.
@ibrahimseth86469 ай бұрын
No, they just choose sides,which sides will gives them most of advantages.
@damienlim67129 ай бұрын
We Singapore were mentioned by many journalists covering the wars in Israel, that the world can be a much much better place if people can live like us..peacefully when there are tolerant towards each other.
@rajeshrevindran88239 ай бұрын
Question for minister Ong: How does the Singapore goverment define Zionism? I asked this because I come across different definitions of zionism out there and it is an element in this conflict. The outcome I want is peace for all goups through understanding zionism in Singapore.
@adamchan8819 ай бұрын
I support Palestinian people but condemn Hamas.
@Shineon839 ай бұрын
I really like the dude in the green t-shirt. He asked GREAT questions (that no one could answer ) : “What is Israel supposed to do when it’s fighting terrorists who imbed themselves in civilian infrastructure ( hospitals, schools, etc. ) ?
@MiaReduce9 ай бұрын
Totally agree. His questions are spot on but non of the guests could answer. Very little was talked about the oppressed and more to wellbeing of Singapore. It shows where the gov stand in this situation. We are privileged enough to sit back and tell fellow Singaporeans to be ‘grateful’ but being grateful doesn’t mean you need to stand back and just watch. Why would i be grateful if its in the expense of others?
@madamcuriouss9 ай бұрын
if you asked propalestinians theyll say do nothing :x
@whyh9 ай бұрын
@@MiaReduce expense of who? Singapore is not built by Palestinians.
@kamarulabdulkarim81669 ай бұрын
And the answer is to kill thousand of innocent civilian including children, woman, sick and elderly ? how pathetic...
@wshyangify9 ай бұрын
@@MiaReduceWhat are you gonna do about it? If you feel so strongly about it flights to Gaza are still available on Singapore Airlines.
@Nah-kh9 ай бұрын
No lah Singapore is pro money ! Anyone with money is friend …. 😂😂😂😂
@mazlyyy9 ай бұрын
The concept of self-defence is something not to be loosely-used. Palestinians do have the right to self-defence. But everything have to be done to according to the international law. What we see nowadays are definitely not self-defense but they are actually committing war crimes. Also, the issue actually comes from the zionist, and not the Jews.
@trumpilogy4699 ай бұрын
Islam should learn from christian value.
@cocaineminor44209 ай бұрын
We aren't Pro Israel We are neutral and don't forget we are a small island
@Will.i.am555559 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 Peace no come easily 😮😮 Treasures our harmony ❤❤❤
@keemarotichai9 ай бұрын
its an open air prison, with extreme conditions and limits,pushing the ones living within that prison with what choices? also more importantly, how sure are we that the 7th October incident was not a reaction to an action before it? they cant leave , nor can they live. and they have lived there multiple generations , who is to leave and who is to stay? if anything , there should be a solution to this urgently by the international community. otherwise this has the potential to go down very wrong where innocent lives are lost as is happening now.
@MyG-kc2id9 ай бұрын
The real question is that why are some people on here like yourself so eager that Singapore have to take a firm support for one side over the other? It feels like you are so interested to be some moral judge to have 1 party win over the other, just to make yourself feel good. One should be a mediator than a supporter.
@gbterase9 ай бұрын
@@MyG-kc2id you are judging the commentor right now.
@Lyoko1049 ай бұрын
@@MyG-kc2idyou have any idea how tone deaf your argument sounds? there are some situations where neutrality cannot be afforded - especially a genocide. How the fuck is being silent helping anyone? All it takes for evil to triumph is for people to do nothing
@anchored5559 ай бұрын
Open air prison? Is this correct? I read that, up till 7 0ct, there were thousands of foreigners living in Gaza, who presumably were free to come or go as they pleased. Many Gazans also entered Israel daily to work. Most prisons don’t allow such arrangements.
@sapphire5299 ай бұрын
❤Singaporean are one people and one nation in singapore❤👍we are one as one united people in singapore👍👍So as to achieve prosperity and progress in our nation.👍❤❤❤
@hiroyukishinichi98739 ай бұрын
Dun import foreign battles into Singapore. You can sympathise. But it is ultimately nothing to do with us.
@ln65939 ай бұрын
Most of the comments imply not to get involved. I wonder if Singapore was in a similar situation would they be ok if the rest of the world to be apathetic to their plight.
@gohkianhui39979 ай бұрын
It's beyond obvious where the moral obligation lies. But we also need to keep our cool head and consider the consequences rather than jumping into mass hysteria. War has always been the same and claiming many innocent lives in the past. Look at rape of nanking for instance, if we want to hold all power to account it will be never-ending. The difference this time is mass media, Internet and iphone has make the news spread very fast. Also why US win WW2? They win not because they are the strongest or righteous, its because they join the war last when everyone else has exhausted their troops and resources😂 so be cool bro
@huaiwei9 ай бұрын
History has shown repeatedly when other countries have to intervene to resolve an internal issue, the outcome is usually undesirable. Please tell me did the outside world try to solve our racial tension issues just a few decades ago? Would it be better if they did?
@Johnstone4159 ай бұрын
Peaceful means of involvement is not illegal at all. By all means, please.