Israel's Untested Armor Thrown into Combat

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5 ай бұрын

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Dive deep into the heart of modern military innovation with our latest educational video! Join us as we unravel the remarkable features and capabilities of Israel's Eitan Armored Fighting Vehicle, a true marvel in the world of defense technology.
In this comprehensive breakdown, we explore every facet of the Eitan AFV, providing you with a thorough understanding of its design, firepower, mobility, and advanced technological features. Whether you're a military enthusiast, a technology buff, or just curious about cutting-edge defense systems, this video has something for everyone!
Written by : Chris Cappy & Justin Taylor
Edited by: Ian Fitzgerald
Produced by: August Dannehl
Explore the reasons behind the widespread adoption of the Eitan AFV by the Israel Defense Forces. From its versatility to its battlefield effectiveness, discover why this armored fighting vehicle has become a key player in modern military operations.
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@Taskandpurpose
@Taskandpurpose 5 ай бұрын
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@jessicalacasse6205
@jessicalacasse6205 5 ай бұрын
70% better than the trophy system mean the trophy system was crap ...
@peter486
@peter486 5 ай бұрын
im not sure how about of i feel about this. it feels America is absolutly brainwashed a when it comes to blind support. to Israel. its accially putting Nato at risk. Neocons whants a war with Iran for what world wide economic meltdown? and millions of lives lost.
@Dazdov
@Dazdov 5 ай бұрын
No because you will spend the kickback on drugs lol
@keksione7235
@keksione7235 5 ай бұрын
Why would you not make video how Israel was created by terrorist groups Irgun,Lehi and Haganah.
@benhuffington8482
@benhuffington8482 5 ай бұрын
DO USS LIBERTY NEXT!!!!!
@hollowsilver1739
@hollowsilver1739 5 ай бұрын
It says something when 6 officers die in the fight while protecting their recruits. That's certainly a type of selfless leadership that you don't always see.
@knowhere60
@knowhere60 5 ай бұрын
Two of the KIA were women officers. The defenders also included a Bedouin Sargent Major, all true selfless heroes 🫡. The Sargent Major (named Ashraf), who survived the attack and its repulsion, sent the green recruits to the clubhouse and told them not to unlock or open the door until they heard him shout "Ashraf" three times.
@tomhenry897
@tomhenry897 5 ай бұрын
Israel use female drill instructors to release men for combat
@tennisblood
@tennisblood 5 ай бұрын
In IDF the officers lead from the front; it's a very different army. If you look very closely at the IDF troop's ranks in Gaza you'll find many sgan-alufs (colonels) and rav-serens (majors) on the ground fighting in front of their soldiers....
@NoamTheGOAT50
@NoamTheGOAT50 5 ай бұрын
​@@tennisbloodyes indeed! As I am an Israeli born and raised and served in the military, that's exactly how it is, our officers fight along with the every soldier. Yes, I'm talking about the higher rank officers.
@Nemsis19
@Nemsis19 5 ай бұрын
the idf killed their own civilians and hostages so i highly doubt that .. i suppose they were KIA because they werent as good as they claimed
@og8263
@og8263 5 ай бұрын
Ive seen it in real life, each wheel larger than a person and yet it goes over 80 KMH its insane
@StunKickTot
@StunKickTot 5 ай бұрын
Have you seen the GTK Boxer?
@StefanBehrens-bp8fl
@StefanBehrens-bp8fl 5 ай бұрын
They are enormous… so is the German Fuchs.
@randomuser5443
@randomuser5443 5 ай бұрын
The fact its the side of a massive earth moving machine is mad
@RubyBandUSA
@RubyBandUSA 5 ай бұрын
faster than 80. I think he said 100 or 120
@pike100
@pike100 5 ай бұрын
​​@@randomuser5443*size, not side
@johnnycaps1
@johnnycaps1 5 ай бұрын
Interesting that critics would say that this vehicle was untested before being sent into "operations" - which might be true, however it's been said that an army has to go into battle with what's available to it when it's been attacked not what it needs or wants when it's been attacked. Great video. Nice that you look at this military vehicle from the perspective of someone who has some experience with a similar military vehicle.
@eden5260
@eden5260 5 ай бұрын
They have the Namer But chose to deploy this new platform as well
@eden5260
@eden5260 5 ай бұрын
@@AnonYmous-yu6hv baseless fiction, that's good as long as it id baseless
@Ianmundo
@Ianmundo 5 ай бұрын
EITAN, I was hearing “8-ton” 😂
@bobbuilder767
@bobbuilder767 5 ай бұрын
They are sending armour equipment against dudes which all they have is some rpgs and aks ... is not like they are really testing it
@sunshine6522
@sunshine6522 5 ай бұрын
@@eden5260 The Namer is much slower, they didn't have that extra time.
@Israel_will_prevail
@Israel_will_prevail 5 ай бұрын
hey, I am an Israeli soldier that served until 3 months ago in the bahad 4 base and I left a couple of weeks before the attack, your video is very much accurate it is impressive! besides the fact it is no longer called bahad 4 but batar zikim but still the facts you presented were very informed good job!
@City1Tiger
@City1Tiger 5 ай бұрын
Free Palestine from IOF
@johngillespie3409
@johngillespie3409 5 ай бұрын
​@@City1Tigerthey had a chance to leave the world's largest open air prison when hamas bulldozed the fence down but there wasn't any 2 million escapees roaming around, apparently they don't want to be free. 🇺🇲🇵🇱🇮🇱💪
@nonpartisangunowner4524
@nonpartisangunowner4524 5 ай бұрын
@@City1Tiger Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005. Ever since, the Gazans and the terrorists they raise have not gone a single year without giving them a reason to come back. Now, it’s happening.
@davidkreiselman6786
@davidkreiselman6786 4 ай бұрын
Can't free something that never actually existed in the first place.@@City1Tiger
@ahmedvawda1282
@ahmedvawda1282 Ай бұрын
@@nonpartisangunowner4524 inches to challenge that. Under international law Gaza is still considered occupied since 2005, and has been since 1967, since Israel still has not transferred sovereign powers, and instead maintains control over the Palestinian Authority's ability to function effectively. Examples: water and electricity, airspace, supply of civilian infrastructure, etc..
@theprogressivecynic2407
@theprogressivecynic2407 5 ай бұрын
120km/hr is UNBELIEVABLY fast for an armored vehicle. That's a full 20% faster than an M1117 or a Stryker, and nobody drives those at full speed, because they will try to knock your tailbone through your throat with the handling. And the Eitan has far more armor than a Stryker, so the increased speed means that it has a much more powerful engine. Given how it has performed so far, I don't think that we can call these untested anymore. This is probably going to be a pretty common vehicle in the future, and may even be a good export product to nations like the Gulf States (maybe, if the Abraham Accords keep moving forward) and smaller European countries. As with most IDF systems, they put a heavy focus on protecting the crew, because they are a small nation with the largest danger being attrition of their most skilled troops. Vehicles can be repaired or replaced, but soldiers are a finite resource when your total population is just under 9.4 million.
@sdsdsd8888
@sdsdsd8888 5 ай бұрын
Yes you are right. Eithan - 750hp vs Stryker - 350hp
@davidty2006
@davidty2006 5 ай бұрын
Thats about 70mph. Aka able to keep up with regular cars on a highway. Still has a way before autobahn speed but makes the requirement of being able to keep up with logi trucks.
@scottfw7169
@scottfw7169 5 ай бұрын
Perhaps not the most data based analytical way to think of it, but science fiction isn't fiction any more: memories of playing sci-fi miniatures games in 1980s and 1990s such as Battletech, Ogre, Dirtside. All three of them, I think, had some pretty fast armored vehicles.
@GeorgeS-fe7eh
@GeorgeS-fe7eh 2 ай бұрын
These are diesel engines. Forced induction direct injected engines. They have no horsepower figures, it's software limited. A better measurement is the size of the turbo. American trucks ... by truck I mean semi ... have low horsepower figures but very reliable power ... million miles reliable. The Jews just took a truck engine and slapped a bigger turbine knowing they don't need a milion mile engine, they need power right now. The american diesel engine can definitely make power if it's needed. I play ATS, I'm a fan of american trucks, you can look at those tractor pull races to see how much they can squeeze out of a diesel. Power is there, it was decided stock power of the engine is enough
@Chonkems
@Chonkems 8 күн бұрын
It makes sense, though. They've had a good few years to perfect these things, and they're basically the sports cars of armored vehicles when it comes to performance.
@georgeau2523
@georgeau2523 5 ай бұрын
Unlike the Stryker the Eitan is used domestically for self defense, so they don't need to worry as much about weight and size limits for transporting/deploying it internationally
@Fulcrox
@Fulcrox 5 ай бұрын
Invading is not self defense lmao The Eitan has to worry about getting stranded in the middle of enemy territory like the APCs and Merkavas who got blow up this month by flanking guerillas using the rubble and alleways to plant mines and shot RPGs at point blank distance
@thekinginyellow1744
@thekinginyellow1744 5 ай бұрын
@@tomreid5002 if by "8" you mean "30+", then you are correct. Otherwise, FAIL!
@ionfreak83
@ionfreak83 5 ай бұрын
@@tomreid5002 I think you misheard since IFV is named Eitan which sounds like 8 ton. But in reality it weight about 30 to 35 tonnes
@georgeau2523
@georgeau2523 5 ай бұрын
@@Fulcrox They don't need to load it onto a railway, then a ship, cargo plane or sling it under a helicopter to get to the fight. They can drive from their barracks
@oleglovky
@oleglovky 5 ай бұрын
Israel doesn't need to project force to the entire world like the US does, so size and weight aren't a concern.
@Echowhiskeyone
@Echowhiskeyone 5 ай бұрын
A military needs tracked and wheeled armored vehicles. Tracked for off road heavy assault. Wheeled for high speed on road and urban warfare. Both have their uses and can overlap.
@arthas640
@arthas640 5 ай бұрын
Im honestly surpised with modern obsession with tacticals and modularity that some general hasnt demanded they get a tracked vehicle that can have its tread wheels wrapped in rubber and driven on like road wheels
@ZetaMoolah
@ZetaMoolah 5 ай бұрын
@@arthas640I think that was tested around 20 years ago, but it made maintenance almost twice as complicated
@arthas640
@arthas640 5 ай бұрын
@@ZetaMoolah doesn't surprise me.
@brianw3415
@brianw3415 5 ай бұрын
​@@arthas640Some light tanks had that in WWII. I think it was on a Russian tank.
@tomhenry897
@tomhenry897 5 ай бұрын
Some early tank designs had this Wheels for on the road Stop and put the tracks on when going off road
@guss77
@guss77 5 ай бұрын
Israel has experience fielding new and yet untested hardware into active conflicts - the Merkava was deployed in the first Lebanon war while still being in initial integration stages in the IDF armoured corps.
@qalba3016
@qalba3016 5 ай бұрын
The Merkava 4 got destroyed last few weeks , IDF is now using merkava 3 the 90’s models on the ground and they are getting burned, just watch different news outlets
@doodmonkey
@doodmonkey 5 ай бұрын
America
@wulver810
@wulver810 5 ай бұрын
@@doodmonkey USA! USA!!
@Fulcrox
@Fulcrox 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, and it ended not being that superior to the Siryan old T-72s
@idkanymore1298
@idkanymore1298 5 ай бұрын
​@@Fulcrox😂
@schlirf
@schlirf 5 ай бұрын
If we had today's testing procedures in WW2, the P-51 wouldn't have been ready for deployment until 1960.
@Jakezillagfw
@Jakezillagfw 5 ай бұрын
Yeah "rushes" tend to happen when a country is at war.
@oso1165
@oso1165 5 ай бұрын
1) The entire world was at war 2) Planes were literally made of wood. Guns were stamped sheet metal made for a few dollars, and fired rounds that were already decades if not almost centuries old and well understood. Shit today is ten thousand times more complicated. Stupid point
@dominuslogik484
@dominuslogik484 5 ай бұрын
lol if we had todays testing procedures we would have been stuck using the M3 Lee until the Vietnam war lmao.
@jrocks6969
@jrocks6969 5 ай бұрын
Did they send woman to war in ww2
@CharChar2121
@CharChar2121 5 ай бұрын
The P-51 didn't have millions of lines of code. The P-51 didn't have to integrate with every other C&C element. The P-51 didn't have to be agile, stealthy, and supersonic.
@zedeyejoe
@zedeyejoe 5 ай бұрын
Weapons always need to be tested in real combat. You can imagine every test you can think of and still not cover everything.
@BarkerVancity
@BarkerVancity 5 ай бұрын
yeah, but theyll most likely be testing it on civilians, lets get real.
@de_anubis
@de_anubis 5 ай бұрын
@@BarkerVancitycivilians? You mean terrorists.
@junhopak8839
@junhopak8839 5 ай бұрын
I mean Hamas tested their wee wee on civilians. Let's be real.@@BarkerVancity
@gags730
@gags730 5 ай бұрын
It's more like you can never make a vehicle that covers everything. There is always a trade-off somewhere. For some reason, One million parts sounds like an issue with an all-out war. How fast you can produce something goes a long way in a big war.
@zedeyejoe
@zedeyejoe 5 ай бұрын
@@BarkerVancity Well it got tested on Hamas, not civilians. Lets stick to reality.
@aritatarka5235
@aritatarka5235 5 ай бұрын
My friend was one of those recruits she was in a bunker for hours waiting for the idf reinforcements
@snakehunter2.072
@snakehunter2.072 5 ай бұрын
How can you say something like this? Even if you are Pro-Palestinian/Anti-Israel, you still - according to statements made by this group - have to value human life. This person probably went through a traumatizing experience at a very young age which she might or might never recover from. Now regardless of your position on the conflict, you have to be able to see the similarity in the lived experience of this young recruit and a young gazan. (Granted the circumstances are vastly different)
@snakehunter2.072
@snakehunter2.072 5 ай бұрын
To add to my previous comment: this person is most likely not seeing combat in gaza. She is a recruit, thus still in training…
@AaronRMG
@AaronRMG 5 ай бұрын
@@snakehunter2.072If your message was to someone else, it appears they deleted their comment.
@maryloudascoli
@maryloudascoli 5 ай бұрын
Why female soldiers?
@projectdesign4675
@projectdesign4675 5 ай бұрын
Yes, former"Gaza Security" posted on Twitter/Rumble that the lack of response time was shocking..they were aghast that the most secure border in the world was breached for up to 8 hours!
@elaadt
@elaadt 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Capy for a great video. The edge that the Israeli designers have over their counterparts in military industry in other countries is that they have direct access to soldiers and units with actual battle experience, when collecting the requirements for new systems. In fact, some of those engineers were these soldiers a few years earlier or they still are in active reserve duty for a few weeks every year. Also during testing you get quick feedback so you can fine tune and tweak the final product. Iron Dome itself was tested in live action in 2009 and received a few upgrades while the confrontation was still going on.
@user-sc7fk5ys6x
@user-sc7fk5ys6x 13 күн бұрын
Israeli weapons design engineers also work with a procurement chain of command whose first priority is national survival rather than economic stimuli.
@Chiller11
@Chiller11 5 ай бұрын
I thought you were saying 8-ton. I was thinking that vehicle must weigh 5 times that. The Eitan looks like the vehicle the Israelis need. Previously one would think a quick reaction force would deploy in helicopters but perhaps they are too vulnerable to MANPADs.
@ErnestZaslavsky
@ErnestZaslavsky 5 ай бұрын
lol, same here, is it 8-ton (long? short? metric?) or just Eitan? BTW, helis were first to engage the enemy on that morning
@FlinnGaidin
@FlinnGaidin 5 ай бұрын
​@@ErnestZaslavsky indeed, paratroopers were flown in via CH-53 Sea Stallions to respond at one location, and were hit with RPG fire, though managed to land and disembark the troops safely.
@zedeyejoe
@zedeyejoe 5 ай бұрын
Its 30 to 35 tonnes. More than a Pz 4 tank in WW2. More than a Stryker and more than double a BTR80.
@michaelhowell2326
@michaelhowell2326 5 ай бұрын
I kept asking myself how that thing only weighed 8 tons.
@ErnestZaslavsky
@ErnestZaslavsky 5 ай бұрын
@@FlinnGaidin no, I mean Apache, they were engaging enemy forces on the ground 30 minutes after the invasion started
@jacobnugent8159
@jacobnugent8159 5 ай бұрын
It’s insane that the iron fist can take out tank rounds
@aegystierone8505
@aegystierone8505 5 ай бұрын
Wow, didn't realize how significant the Eitan is, truly a new leap for the IDF.
@D4ll4s69
@D4ll4s69 5 ай бұрын
So. This is the first and last channel I joined as a supporter. This military journalism is one of a kind.
@Crimethoughtfull
@Crimethoughtfull 5 ай бұрын
The thing I notice most about this vehicle is how...smooooooth it is. Angled and smooth with minimal superstructure almost like a creation from one of those voxel-based building games like From the Depths or whatever...whereas something like the Stryker has a very busy exterior.
@Thenoobestgirl
@Thenoobestgirl 4 ай бұрын
Slick design
@sutulj
@sutulj 3 ай бұрын
rich corinthian leather😂
@judahross
@judahross 5 ай бұрын
These videos are so good Cappy. It's real nice to have such quality content on KZbin. First time I've ever paid for a youtube channel
@johnnymacaroni9738
@johnnymacaroni9738 5 ай бұрын
Integration in early stages is what allows the design to be further modified for real world conditions and NOT just look good in videos and training , thank you Chris for another great video you got fans here in Israel ❤
@hebagally8567
@hebagally8567 5 ай бұрын
Israel pursues a fait accompli policy, it takes proactive stances There is no evidence that there are tunnels under hospitals, that there are no ambulances transporting terrorists, and that people’s homes are targets for Hamas. It is all a lie and a justification for its fait accompli policy to evade the issue and continue its war and killing of innocents
@johnkelley9877
@johnkelley9877 5 ай бұрын
I had seen the photo of the Eitan in Gaza and wondered when this vehicle had entered service. After watching your video you answered all my questions. Thanks for sharing this and thank you for your service in Afghanistan.
@Am_Yisrael_Chai_7
@Am_Yisrael_Chai_7 5 ай бұрын
"The stryker is a peace of junk" It hurts. Its true but its still hurts😂😂
@user-ih4vy2xi7n
@user-ih4vy2xi7n 5 ай бұрын
For alll of us armored troopers, we appreciate your research (with permission) , of new tech, and armored strategies. Yes you need the "tools " that fit the task. Thanks Daniel
@hemaccabe4292
@hemaccabe4292 5 ай бұрын
You look at that Eitan and you can say the future is here!
@DrRichardRoberts
@DrRichardRoberts 5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@neilwilliams5173
@neilwilliams5173 5 ай бұрын
The IDF can develope and use these awesome vehicles for their defense as they do not have to worry about using them for expeditionary forces.A great advantage for sure as they can be uparmored and add more defensive capabilities without worrying about having to fly or ship them to a battle front.
@Fulcrox
@Fulcrox 5 ай бұрын
They are literally using them to invade Gaza lmao, they have to worry about them getting stranded like any other vehicle. And as seen on the videos uploaded by the Quds, the APCs and Tanks getting stranded without infantry support in the middle of the ruins are not few
@Geroskop
@Geroskop 5 ай бұрын
​@@Fulcroxingaging in combat 20-100km from your base is not the same as doing it 3000km from your base ... Get a grip😂
@blacklight4720
@blacklight4720 5 ай бұрын
@@Fulcrox I've seen the videos you're talking about. They don't give you the full picture. They don't give you anything really beside shooting a rocket and loud shouting "backbar, backbar". I think that IDF dismounts the infantry further away from Merkava, so they minimize the chance of being in range of those rockets. Using Merkava as bait for rockets, while still having infantry in the area.
@sunshadow1483
@sunshadow1483 5 ай бұрын
​@@blacklight4720 Lol get a life. Diaper army is stuck in Gaza and get huge loss on daily basis. We'll see how it ends.
@sergiontothetop
@sergiontothetop 5 ай бұрын
​@@sunshadow1483huge loss of 3, in urban warfare 😂
@gideonvanniekerk4252
@gideonvanniekerk4252 5 ай бұрын
It’s awesome that you explained the sequence of events of the battles. I really appreciate that context. Thank you.
@XxxXxx-dc3ud
@XxxXxx-dc3ud 5 ай бұрын
Greetings from North of Ireland fantastic content thanks for the obvious hard work to research and produce epic stuff cappy ❤good man yourself
@BroodingPsycho
@BroodingPsycho 5 ай бұрын
Getting Mass Effect vibes from this. What a beautiful piece of machinery
@davidpalmer4184
@davidpalmer4184 5 ай бұрын
Another great video cappy. Israel has a history of trying out new equipment by simply using it's conflicts as a testing ground. I would think that they would learn a lot more, a lot faster this way rather than spending the zillions of dollar's the rest of the world spends.
@awnage
@awnage 5 ай бұрын
But you skipped the most important question: Is it US street legal?
@truongchau56
@truongchau56 5 ай бұрын
Except for California, I think it's street legal in most states…
@daxtertalon4
@daxtertalon4 5 ай бұрын
XD
@davidty2006
@davidty2006 5 ай бұрын
By british standards it is.
@madebybelle6965
@madebybelle6965 5 ай бұрын
I saw a video of Israeli soldiers rescuing a team from inside a hit apc. They typed in some code in the back of the vehicle to open the door and save the crew that locked themselves inside the apc. That was very interesting to me. Is this like a safety measure the apc crew can use so they won't get taken as prisoners and can wait for rescue? I've never seen any other army have this thing in their heavy armored vehicles.
@devon5154
@devon5154 5 ай бұрын
Probably just a door lock
@willyvereb
@willyvereb 5 ай бұрын
@@devon5154 Most military vehicles, believe it or not, have no such thing. Locking the door is kinda pointless when you have to station GIs to guard the equipment anyways. And during combat it can be even detrimental at times as it may prevent crew from escaping. So yeah, the idea may be indeed to avoid taken hostage. A conventional army may only call artillery or any other ordinance but in assymetric warfare where the other side is eager to take hostages this function may not be bad.
@madebybelle6965
@madebybelle6965 5 ай бұрын
@@devon5154 Yeah it was a door lock. And the crew that came and rescued them also knew the code to get the door unlocked. That made me wonder if the purpose is just for situations to prevent the crew from being taken hostage.
@FlinnGaidin
@FlinnGaidin 5 ай бұрын
I know the video you're talking of, it's a special police unit coming to their rescue...I don't recall them entering a code to open the door, though. As I recall, they used the intercom on the back of the APC to talk with the wounded soldiers inside and inform them that they were the police coming to get them out.
@Matt-yg8ub
@Matt-yg8ub 5 ай бұрын
@@FlinnGaidin that makes considerably more sense, there’s no point in putting locks on the car If you key them all the same, and the enemy gets a hold of it. Locking doors, make sense in urban combat…. Especially combat where the enemy is trying to take hostages.
@BigStickCombat
@BigStickCombat 5 ай бұрын
If you look at Ukraine's success with drones versus armored vehicles, an anti-drone capability is vital.
@paladinpariah325
@paladinpariah325 5 ай бұрын
I very much appreciate the perspective of a veteran who can speak to the practicalities of this system based on their experiences.
@philipdestito4781
@philipdestito4781 5 ай бұрын
Always like the videos on new weapons and vehicles. Good one Cappy
@49Roadmaster
@49Roadmaster 5 ай бұрын
What happened to this video before? I was half way through it then YT shut it down.... Was enjoying this.
@johnny1893
@johnny1893 5 ай бұрын
Probably copyright strike.
@MAndM-jk4zx
@MAndM-jk4zx 5 ай бұрын
Good ol jew tube
@johnnycaps1
@johnnycaps1 5 ай бұрын
Probably used the word "terrorists" rather than "not nice people" or "militants". Unknown.
@49Roadmaster
@49Roadmaster 5 ай бұрын
@@johnnycaps1 I think KZbin is getting a "bit" too to big on their censorship. Even a comment I had asked on another channel had been blocked by YT because I asked in the comments about something that I had basically quoted from a mainstream (CBC) media source.
@googlehomeboi9975
@googlehomeboi9975 5 ай бұрын
120km/h in an AFV ain't no joke
@keiranpierre5188
@keiranpierre5188 5 ай бұрын
And to be able to sustain it as well is incredible
@yaa40
@yaa40 5 ай бұрын
100%, just keep in mind the distance is probably under 200km. Israel is small...
@StefanBehrens-bp8fl
@StefanBehrens-bp8fl 5 ай бұрын
Dude, its 90 km/h maximum speed… with 750 hp and more then 30 tons you wil never be faster than that.
@BenyKarachun
@BenyKarachun 5 ай бұрын
@@StefanBehrens-bp8fl Israeli highways allow such speed, the route they were driving (from Northen to Southern Israel) had a slight downward slope as well. 90kmph is probably goverened speed. If needed, it could be ungoverned.
@WildReefer
@WildReefer 5 ай бұрын
I'm guessing it is pretty top-heavy and bounces like a mattress. 90 kp/h in any such vehicle would be very difficult to control at such a speed with that suspension.
@moshehim1000
@moshehim1000 5 ай бұрын
Rafael is actually Israel 3rd largest military industry conglomerate. Recently Elbit Systems (previously at #3) merged with IMI (previously at #4) to take the 1st place from IAI, which has now been relegated to 2nd place, and dropping Rafael to 3rd.
@RKTGX95
@RKTGX95 5 ай бұрын
thanks for the video. you bring more perspective and additional knowledge than a lot of local israeli news currently in your videos.
@ordinarydavid8468
@ordinarydavid8468 5 ай бұрын
That was my thought too.
@banto1
@banto1 5 ай бұрын
Not sure if Iron Fist is better than Trophy. Each has their own pros and cons. The pro for Iron Fist is it's a lot lighter than trophy and was designed for light infantry vehicles (jeeps, hummers etc...) - meaning that if you can support the weight (e.g. Merkava) the Trophy is probably the better system.
@theprogressivecynic2407
@theprogressivecynic2407 5 ай бұрын
Trophy is more effective and has more ammo, while Iron Fist is more flexible on where it can be put.
@ahsuser
@ahsuser 5 ай бұрын
Hooked on your videos. As a true bonus, these clear my kitchen of family while I"m prepping dinner, as they don't understand why I NEED to know all this information. Fools!
@mrcomenttoe2009
@mrcomenttoe2009 5 ай бұрын
Dude outstanding video thank you so much thumbs up to the video👍👍
@davew8841
@davew8841 5 ай бұрын
Cheers! That was another outstandingly informative article👍.
@robayojiak5938
@robayojiak5938 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! Keep it up bro. like the channel a lot...
@wiredvibe1678
@wiredvibe1678 5 ай бұрын
Man this ifv looks mean as hell
@Jreg1992
@Jreg1992 5 ай бұрын
Trophy system = claymore vs rpg Ironfist system = rpg vs rpg Nuf' said.
@BenyKarachun
@BenyKarachun 5 ай бұрын
The (kind of irrelevant to Israel) benefit of the Iron Fist is that it can also intercept APFSDS rounds, changing the angle of impacting and making it shatter on impact. You could see it at a showcase video.
@Fulcrox
@Fulcrox 5 ай бұрын
Their actual problem now are drones and mines, fighting at point blank distance without infantry support has been letting the Hamas guerillas to directly plant mines on the vehicle hulls or shot RPGs barrages at very close distances without response
@thekinginyellow1744
@thekinginyellow1744 5 ай бұрын
@@BenyKarachun I'll believe it when I see it occur outside of a test range.
@Jreg1992
@Jreg1992 5 ай бұрын
@BenyKarachun yo, that explosive countermeasure was traveling nowhere near 2 kilometers a second - i doubt it is able to deploy in time unless the target fires from several kilometers away. This means it only stops some apfsds that travel slow/fired from far away + detected, but stops all man-portable rpg's. I'd sell it as an rpg stopper so no customers ask for money back 😉.
@Jreg1992
@Jreg1992 5 ай бұрын
@fulcrox yeah but isreali repair hubs (who would be burdened with repairing busted tank's/ifv's/apc's) are not in the news. If the media shined a spotlight on the money and scarefactor of washing the blood out of tanks and welding them back together. Welders are paid bank and seeing blood increases viewer retention, the fact they aint in the news means they aint fixing/washing much. Sounds like the only problem isreal faces is buying the right auto-turrets for their wall. Samsung makes the best, kept North Korea in their own borders for generations now.
@mr_beezlebub3985
@mr_beezlebub3985 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Task & Purpose, very cool!
@StartVisit
@StartVisit 5 ай бұрын
great overview ❤ looking forward for more technical vids like this one
@waitwhat4566
@waitwhat4566 5 ай бұрын
Bravo Zulu. I know you like to keep things light and less than morbid, but, really your presentations are very informative and I like them a lot. Keep up the good work.
@GalacticKerbal
@GalacticKerbal 5 ай бұрын
thank you for the insight. I love your explanations
@mwhite1474
@mwhite1474 5 ай бұрын
Great Presentation! Finally an APC transport/ fighting vehicle that will not double as a death trap. One little correction that you might have caught already… expedited is pronounced like Ex-puh-die-tid. Keep up the good work!
@isagive
@isagive 5 ай бұрын
Thanks man, another great review 👍👍
@earlharvey7659
@earlharvey7659 Ай бұрын
I've got to say, your videos are by far the best at describing to a great degree the function, pros and cons of each piece of equipment you're going over, whether it's an F 18/A Super Hornet, or a new, untested and unproven Israeli armored personnel carrier. Kudos to you for your knowledge, your research, and your presentation! Love it!
@jacktmyt378
@jacktmyt378 5 ай бұрын
That’s a pretty cool Israel military vehicle.
@ahmedvawda1282
@ahmedvawda1282 Ай бұрын
Based on stolen technology from South Africa. Google ratel infantry vehicle. Separate note: Israel was caught red handed steaming anti tank missile technology from South Africa’s Denel company
@simondan3828
@simondan3828 5 ай бұрын
12:28 Rafael is our Skunkworks. They are typically tasked with the impossible and can get it done.
@kenrobinson8060
@kenrobinson8060 5 ай бұрын
Great commentary, its a change to get someone who knows what they are talking about and this old Aussie Viet Vet is a fan of your works, looking forward to more from you
@Abelard4567
@Abelard4567 5 ай бұрын
Great video. Really appreciate your perspective.
@uristmcary
@uristmcary 5 ай бұрын
One of the coolest parts of technology in combat, is that technology will always be ahead of what is practically possible. Every single platform, weapon and strategy is already potentially obsolete because by the time the tool is being used, a minority of people (hopefully helping you out) have already observed, tested and identified the weaknesses of the new thing. They have the time between designing the thing, and sending it to combat, to design a better version and therefore "obsolete" the old version. (never-mind practical experience) Some parts of the military have this issue worse than others, not really sure which are relevant. But here are some examples. Navies often have this issue because it can take decades to make a single ship, so as long as you want to stick with the original plan (ad-lib at your own risk). It takes so long to move a ship from the blueprints to the sea that entire wars can begin and conclude before the ship is ever tested. By the time the ship touches water there have been 10 years of engineering, experience and changes in priority. On the opposite end of the spectrum guns are so numerous that massive amounts of industry would have to retool and find funding before new ones became common. Practically you can make a new individual weapon very quickly, but replacing a 50 year old gun completely may take 50 years. By the time a gun becomes common in a military there have already been new guns made and the people may see the old gun as an old reliable despite flaws that have been on record for entire generations. Rushing your new vehicle to combat and skipping the evaluation minimizes the time people can reconsider/observe and practically increases the time the vehicle has before becoming obsolete. There are risks though, it isn't all gravy.
@lintonball5390
@lintonball5390 5 ай бұрын
Thanks
@ilana
@ilana 5 ай бұрын
A very informative video, thanq so much!
@datapro007
@datapro007 5 ай бұрын
Informative video, thank you!
@christianjunghanel6724
@christianjunghanel6724 5 ай бұрын
I find it refreshing the way he handles a opinion(Striker issue ) differnt from his own ! Seems to have gotte rare these days!
@THEBESTG00N
@THEBESTG00N 5 ай бұрын
Love your coverage
@NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek
@NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek 5 ай бұрын
Excellent and Outstanding Video!!!
@wompa70
@wompa70 5 ай бұрын
"It was pretty ghetto." The true soldier's creed.
@EagleTwo758
@EagleTwo758 5 ай бұрын
The Israeli's took our F-15 Eagle and made it better, many don't know that. That's why we got the Strike Eagle and better radar
@Soothing432
@Soothing432 5 ай бұрын
in israel a lot of males are also called eitan, we dont usually use it in its meaning of strong, its not a "street" word.
@rizkyadiyanto7922
@rizkyadiyanto7922 5 ай бұрын
seitan
@sheltr9735
@sheltr9735 5 ай бұрын
@@rizkyadiyanto7922 sinsane
@knowhere60
@knowhere60 5 ай бұрын
It's an archaic word, but a great first name for a boy.
@asafun
@asafun 5 ай бұрын
@@rizkyadiyanto7922 your mom
@Soothing432
@Soothing432 5 ай бұрын
indeed@@knowhere60
@DoronL73
@DoronL73 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for a great video , the Iron Fist have also not seen real battles yet... the version used is called Iron Fist Light Decoupled, this version was made to address needs of the US army after testing few years ago with the original version were only partially successful and it was too heavy... I don't know the ETA of the testing but this system looks more suitable for APCs ... it was chosen also for the Australian Redback, Trophy is still the dominant for MBTs
@Matt-yg8ub
@Matt-yg8ub 5 ай бұрын
Iron fist is an improvement to an existing system
@theprogressivecynic2407
@theprogressivecynic2407 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, the only reason to pick the Iron Fist over Trophy is weight/energy issues. Trophy is far better, but it's too heavy for most vehicles and takes up an ungodly amount of energy. Trophy is more effective, but it can be fit on smaller vehicles, and even helicopters.
@Matt-yg8ub
@Matt-yg8ub 5 ай бұрын
@@theprogressivecynic2407 I think you meant to say the trophy was more effective
@theprogressivecynic2407
@theprogressivecynic2407 5 ай бұрын
@@Matt-yg8ub Yes, thanks.
@TheDgdimick
@TheDgdimick 5 ай бұрын
120KPH is 74MPH, they can travel that fast. I could be wrong, since I wasn't there. Wikipedia say it will do 90KPH/56MPH still that DAMN fast. The weight is also reported to be 30 to 35 TONS, not the 8 tons Caps stating. - After contacting Cap, sorted me out here. He said "Eitans" and it sure sounds like 8tons to me. As for the speed, Cap said "Eitan can definitely go above the official open source numbers speed, that's the numbers for recommended routine driving. The Stryker for example is listed with a top speed of 60 mph but I know for a fact we drove it at 80 mph (not advisable it really starts to wobble at that point and its dangerous)" Moving 30 to 35 tons at 74/75MPH is quite a feat.
@theprogressivecynic2407
@theprogressivecynic2407 5 ай бұрын
Wikipedia isn't a great source for cutting edge military tech. It's pretty good for older tech, as those are known quantities with a lot of observed use. Newer tech often has purposely inaccurate info shared by the manufacturer--in the west, this typically is to under-sell the system so that enemies underestimate its true capabilities, while Russia and China are notorious for over-selling their systems to make them appear more impressive. This is why the Patriot systems taking down the Russian Kinzals in Ukraine was such a surprise to some. On paper, that could never happen, as the Patriot capabilities are above what was reported, while the Kinzal "hypersonics" were slower and less maneuverable than reported.
@danielsmith3265
@danielsmith3265 5 ай бұрын
Cap didn't say 8 tons. He said Ei--tan, which is the name of the vechicle
@TheDgdimick
@TheDgdimick 5 ай бұрын
@@danielsmith3265 I emailed Cap and he cleared up the speed issue, I also re watched the video, and you're 100% correct, I'm and old Marine and going to claim senility.
@davidty2006
@davidty2006 5 ай бұрын
Can safely say it can keep up with logistical vehicles.
@petesjk
@petesjk 5 ай бұрын
The Stryker is designed to be transported in a C-130, so there’s a reason it has half the mass of the Eitan. I don’t think the Stryker was meant for urban warfare, either.
@ulforcemegamon3094
@ulforcemegamon3094 5 ай бұрын
Yeah , since the Eitan is meant for self-defense , you don't need to transport it around like a Stryker
@bigfoot9049
@bigfoot9049 5 ай бұрын
"Back to you Chris" made me laugh way more than it should've.
@Protector64
@Protector64 5 ай бұрын
Top Information, tnx.
@gagamba9198
@gagamba9198 5 ай бұрын
No better test than reality.
@shleaumeau7740
@shleaumeau7740 5 ай бұрын
A glowing review, especially contrasted with the Chinese VN-20.
@RubyBandUSA
@RubyBandUSA 5 ай бұрын
you have a very good narrator voice. Much better than most others reporting on the war
@WritingFighter
@WritingFighter 4 ай бұрын
So... the Chinese VN-20 done right; a multi-purpose troop transport vehicle that actually functions with reasonable protection and improves and restructures existing designs with specific purposes in mind. Only in Israel will you get a commander calling something American a piece of junk and asking for something better. Good to know that they've developed newer systems to Trophy, and they've innovated it to additional threats. God I love this country and part of my heritage.
@ShaulRosenzweig
@ShaulRosenzweig 5 ай бұрын
Today on TV they intervied an IAI exec after Arrow again shot down Yemeni ballistic missile. He said, we should thank Houthis, they are saving us money on dummy missiles for testing. Germany recently purchased Arrow to counter Russian ballistic missile threat. Germans will also be happy it was finally battle tested in a real war.
@christolouw7336
@christolouw7336 5 ай бұрын
In the SADF we had the same concep way back in the 80's. The RATEL troop carrier/fighting mashine ended up to be our most sucsesfull machine. Still in use by the new SA army. Google it.
@chuckbittner8704
@chuckbittner8704 5 ай бұрын
I've given away at least 10 guns for the holidays so far thank you for showing them to me :-) they are a great gift. I've made many people happy. I gave one to my nine-year-old niece and she sent a picture to her mom and her mom wasn't thrilled… It was only the Thompson submachine gun… Little did she know that I just had given her also, an airsoft MP five :-) I'm going for uncle of the year
@therealboofighter
@therealboofighter 5 ай бұрын
I really like your videos. If I could give a bit of feedback back about the presentation, a bit longer of a pause between paragraphs or the next topic would be helpful. Some times it sounds like you are reading a very long run on sentence.
@Taskandpurpose
@Taskandpurpose 5 ай бұрын
thank you for the feedback I completely agree! sometimes I have too much coffee I'm going to practice slowing down, thank you : )
@therealboofighter
@therealboofighter 5 ай бұрын
@@Taskandpurpose thank you for taking the comment in the spirit it was intended. I was hoping it would not come across as a hater or a KZbin expert. lol.
@Chiller11
@Chiller11 5 ай бұрын
@@Taskandpurpose T h a n k Y o u !
@IsraelMilitaryChannel
@IsraelMilitaryChannel 5 ай бұрын
Eitan armored vehicle is very capable. It is equipped with Iron Fists active protection system
@divvie
@divvie 5 ай бұрын
It took me WAY too long to figure out the name of this APC because I though you kept saying 8 ton AFV
@scoopidywhoop7484
@scoopidywhoop7484 5 ай бұрын
Same here lmao. I was wondering how they pulled that off😂
@tonybennett3904
@tonybennett3904 5 ай бұрын
Fascinating
@pkt1213
@pkt1213 5 ай бұрын
Can you imagine being one of those dismounts when the Iron Fist does an intercept? ☠️
@Matt-yg8ub
@Matt-yg8ub 5 ай бұрын
The system was designed with dismounted infantry in mind
@pkt1213
@pkt1213 5 ай бұрын
@@Matt-yg8ub I know. I am wondering how the computer makes decisions on saving a $3m vehicle and crew but fraging a fireteam.
@Matt-yg8ub
@Matt-yg8ub 5 ай бұрын
@@pkt1213 the system is designed with tolerances where the fire teams are supposed to be located at they have to stay on their zone.
@BenyKarachun
@BenyKarachun 5 ай бұрын
Look at Israeli doctrine. Israeli soldiers are mounted, and when dismounted they aren't anywhere near the APCs. It makes the APCs more vulnurable to attacks, however, those APCs are designed to handle them using APS, ERA and passive armor. This made Israeli casualty rate in Gaza exceptionally low (
@Thor_Asgard_
@Thor_Asgard_ 5 ай бұрын
The German boxer ist the most armored and advanced IPC in the world atm, not this one, but it still looks very unique and interresting, i bet its an amazing vehicle.
@dominuslogik484
@dominuslogik484 5 ай бұрын
have you seen the absolute gargantuan size of the Boxer though? try fitting that through any street without getting stuck, it makes the Stryker look rather petite by comparison and it feels weird seeing the Europeans make an AFV so large it couldn't operate in a European city.
@antasosam8486
@antasosam8486 5 ай бұрын
@@dominuslogik484 That's not right. Boxer is bigger but comparable with Stryker and app the same as this Eitan.
@UncleFester84
@UncleFester84 5 ай бұрын
Centauro 2: laughs in 120mm main cannon
@dominuslogik484
@dominuslogik484 5 ай бұрын
@@antasosam8486 the boxer is 13 inches wider than the Stryker which is already not considered a particularly thin vehicle. also the boxer is nearly 3 feet longer than the stryker as well.
@DCTriv
@DCTriv 5 ай бұрын
​@@dominuslogik484The boxer is the same size as the Eitan.
@clivebroadhead4857
@clivebroadhead4857 5 ай бұрын
This is a new definition of combat.
@lincolnlu9869
@lincolnlu9869 5 ай бұрын
Love the Morbing time reference
@luckystriker7489
@luckystriker7489 5 ай бұрын
Israeli armour is the most beautiful in the world. So sleek and sexy. From the Merkava to the Eitan, if you remove the weapons you've got the coolest sci-fi exploration vehicles.
@stevent8314
@stevent8314 5 ай бұрын
Great video. Very informative. Looks like a Stryker. I would have initially called it an Armored Car. (It has tires). I really like the Israeli emphasis on Troop Protection. I guess that when you have a nation of 9 million people that is surrounded by several hundred million potential adversaries, you don’t want to get into a war of attrition with them.
@fortusvictus8297
@fortusvictus8297 5 ай бұрын
There is also a cultural component. Contrary to popular belief, Judaism doesn't really have set belief in heaven or hell but rather life and legacy is the thing. Ecclesiastes is one of the corner stone philosophical texts for Judaism. For reference to your specific point, I'd recommend reviewing Ecclesiastes 9 to be precise.
@stevent8314
@stevent8314 5 ай бұрын
@@fortusvictus8297 - Very valid points. Thank you for them as well as the suggestions for study. Even tho you are correct in what you say, I find that aspect of many modern Jews’ religious practice to be sad. The view of no afterlife is not new. It has a long tradition dating back to at least the 2nd Temple era. There were numerous Jewish Groups that claimed to practice “true” Judaism back then. The 3 most prominent were Pharisees (Chasidim), Sadducees & Essenes. Most modern Rabbinical Judaism has a direct historic & theological link to The Pharisees. They revered the traditions of the Elders just like they revered the Tanach (Hebrew Bible for those who don’t know). Out of those traditions rose the Talmud. They actually did believe in a Resurrection, Judgement & afterlife. It was a point of contention with the Sadducees. The Sadducees were a religious/ political group that had a love/hate relationship with the Pharisees. They only acknowledged the 5 Books of Torah as being Divinely inspired. They did not believe in angels, unclean spirits or an afterlife. All your rewards & punishments accrued in this life. Some suggest that modern Kararite Jews are their spiritual descendants. I think that that view is wrong. Kararites revere the entire Tanach. Their only commonality with the Sadducees is that neither consider the Traditions (Talmud) to be Divinely authoritative. Although in truth, many Kararites go along with many extra-Biblical traditions from a cultural standpoint. I don’t know of any modern stream of Judaism that is quiet like the Sadducees. And I suspect that there have always been Kararite leaning Jews. (They are kinda like Protestants in Christianity). The Essenes are a third group that were quite large & well respected by the people. Their origins & demise have been shrouded in mystery to some degree. Many think that they were a small sect of Monastic Jews. Qumran being their HQ. In truth the community at Qumran was a monastic style community with very precise rituals. But only properly descended priests went there. And they stayed for short periods of time. (I think the very idea of a large celibate priesthood would go against every inclination of real Jews). (And Baptists, too). The Essene Movement was much larger than most of us realize. They believed in the entire Tanach just like the Pharisees. They also believed in the Testimony of the Patriarchs as being Divinely inspired. They rejected the Traditions of the Elders/The Oral Torah as being Authoritative. They didn’t particularly get along with either the Pharisees or the Sadducees. What happened to them? They became the early Church. They laid the groundwork for Christianity among Jews with an understanding that the eventual outreach would expand to Gentiles. They were the proto-Messianic Jews. Both John the Baptist & Jesus quoted Essene writing. Paul incorporated their insights & doctrines in what could be called Pauline Doctrine. One of the Elders who “laid hands” on Paul in Antioch was a noted Essene who had been a leader of the Sanhedrin before fleeing Jerusalem. Dr Ken Johnson is working diligently to translate the Dead Sea Scrolls into English for us all to study. He has several fascinating books already published. And more in the works. I have read about a dozen of his books. They aren’t all about the DSS. He has a good KZbin channel, too.
@balecalduin1993
@balecalduin1993 5 ай бұрын
Man I love this side channel by Zach Star Himself. For a funny KZbin comedian he sure knows his stuff when it comes to the military
@walterpleyer261
@walterpleyer261 4 ай бұрын
Another advantage of wheeled veicles is, that a mine usually blows off only onw wheel, so the vehicle can limp out of the danger zone on the remaining 5 or 7 wheels
@rattlehead1003
@rattlehead1003 5 ай бұрын
Can you please go over EFP's Explosively formed penetrator. We had a lot of classes on them. They would make them look like rocks.
@GeorgeJoubert-id2cv
@GeorgeJoubert-id2cv 5 ай бұрын
Also Iran perfected these and are supplying H-m-s with them
@nicelydunwell5681
@nicelydunwell5681 5 ай бұрын
IDK, looks like pretty thin armour. I think it could stop most rocks thrown at it though
@Homoprimatesapiens
@Homoprimatesapiens 5 ай бұрын
Tracked vehicles is obviously meant for muddy rainy, snowy conditions. Dry areas is fit for faster more zippy fighting vehicles.
@hard_toaster8558
@hard_toaster8558 5 ай бұрын
For the first few minutes I kept hearing Eight-Ton. And I keep thinking: no way, this thing weighs only eight tons. 🤪😅 Keep it up, Cappy!!
@SmokesKwazukii
@SmokesKwazukii 5 ай бұрын
such a fucking cool vehicle. looks like a near future scifi vehicle
@thebioray
@thebioray 5 ай бұрын
this basically T-14 Armata rushed into ukraine if the T-14 is exist
@kaleoariola
@kaleoariola 5 ай бұрын
So its the Bradley to the Merkava but in Stryker form. Very cool.
@gavriel2005
@gavriel2005 3 ай бұрын
Can the Eitan and similar vehicles drive on a highway that's full of civilian cars in say, 60 mph? I know it has the speed, but would the driver be able to control it well enough (like when driving a car)?
@chpet1655
@chpet1655 5 ай бұрын
What got to me was how they were able to use boats to the beach. I would have assumed there would be at least a couple of patrol boats watching the shoreline for infiltration. Seems Israel failed on all fronts to protect against infiltration. I’m still not sure how this happens when you have a hostile group right next to you.
@Luvmyhorse207
@Luvmyhorse207 5 ай бұрын
America and Japan had the sea at the point that they decided to try the sea.
@vinibruh1397
@vinibruh1397 5 ай бұрын
M8 what I believe happened was that Israel let the attack happen to justify the war , they needed a reason to invade Gaza after decades of missile bombardments and attempted assaults launched by hamas , no side here is a saint and none should be supported for war is a plain tragedy, but the truth here is that no defense should be needed because no one should be attacking at the first place
@Walem_B
@Walem_B 5 ай бұрын
​@@vinibruh1397 they were fed up. you can hear netanyahu alluding to it, talking about easing surveillance on them regarding weapons and funds. if you think abt it its like a military sting operation. But there's a couple of argument out there, all public, in favour of this theory
@megaloth1955
@megaloth1955 5 ай бұрын
You're right, it was failure, but mainly a political one. Netanyahu downplayed Hamas for years and thought he had them contained by giving them amenities, money and a free reign. To his credit, Hamas played him (and Israel) quite well, not participating in previous battles, feigning incompetence in videoed military drills, and appearing to prefer the pleasantries of rulership over anything else. As a result, Netanyahu, and the Israeli intelligence, got complacent and moved whole brigades out of the Gaza border, thinking they're being wasted on a relatively peaceful front since Israel thought the main adversary would be Hizbollah and prepared for an invasion from the north, leaving the south relatively open for a full-scale attack.
@rupertbe
@rupertbe 5 ай бұрын
There was a patrol ship and it destroyed 3 of the boats. Think the main issue was that the drones ran out of missiles very quickly.
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