Israeli M1919 Brownings and the US Semiauto Market

[@RockIslandAuctionCompany]

Don't forget, they're also more reliable.

[@wierdalien1]

Savage

[@propyne6188]

I like how it's RIA's official account shitposting here.

[@brettmclaughlin338]

And doubly reliable undoubtedly...

[@atilliar]

The product page has it marked as a 30 06. Ian's video shows it as 7.62 NATO. Which is it?

[@SilentNight1647]

Could be both. Booster, barrel, and cartidge guides are all you need to swap between the two.

[@MrJob91]

I hope youtube will be more reliable and more reliable showing us your awesome content!!!

[@jamesjross]

Is it right for a straight man to Love another man? Am I allowed to love gun jesus or is that sacrilegious?

[@redfridge3610]

Jamie Ross It doesn’t matter because Gun Jesus is ammosexual.

[@jamesjross]

brilliant

[@RockIslandAuctionCompany]

@Job91 - Amen to that.

[@michagrill9432]

Job91 If they don't kill this channel at the first place...

[@maffioli14]

Ian “should I do a second take since I repeated myself?” Ian to himself “that wouldn’t be very reliable”

[@brendanbender6482]

maffioli14 I like stuff like that it lets u know the knowledge is genuine and not scripted shit he'll forget as he reads it

[@votekyle3000]

I want a gun that’s both more reliable and more reliable

[@thebutcherofbenghazi.libya3348]

Ian auto-loaded his words; he's semi-ful auto repeater, and they're going to ban him.

[@jonpayne4931]

That would be a knife. 🤣🤣🤣

[@oneandy2]

I was fortunate enough to get one of the Israeli 308 1919 kits when they were coming into the country in droves. 300 bucks for that kit. I wish I'd bought three. Was fortunate enough to live near Emory Jones (RIP) at the time and got a ton of help from him building mine. He even let me use his blasting cabinet and parkerizing tanks. Those were the days. When parts kits were plentiful and cheap and you could build awesome historic guns

[@dutchdenson8156]

Emory was a great asset to the 1919a4 community at that time and a great guy.

[@AldanFerrox]

The US Navy actually did a 7.62mm NATO conversion of the M1919. It was called Mk 21 Mod 0 and was extensively used on riverine boats in Vietnam.

[@akashmukherjee2405]

AldanFerrox and also in 7.62x54 mmR Russian to utilize the seized ammunition of Vietnam Army...

[@leonmotz1193]

Navy ground units in Vietnam (Seabees) used these conversions also. M-60 belts had to be used upside down because the M1919 pulls the cartridge from the rear.

[@PassiveDestroyer]

The US Army also had two 7.62mm conversions, the M73 and the M219, which were both used in tanks. However, they didn't work very well, which is why the first version of the FN MAG was adopted in 1980 as the M240, primarily to mount in the M1 Abrams as the coaxial MG, and as the loader's pintle MG.

[@leonmotz1193]

Navy version worked great. Never needed in combat but fired monthly to justify cleaning. Have pic of me firing one but this format does not allow pictures.

[@lavrentivs9891]

We also had them in 7.62x51 in Sweden as the m/39 and lasted into the first years of 2000 in some vehicles. One best mate had one is his vehicle and he always swore over it as it was so worn that it decided on its own what rate of fire it would have^^

[@herknorth8691]

"You said reliable twice." "I *like* reliable." "Charming; sign right here."

[@orisaig]

Hi Ian, As I'm Israeli, I can tell you this: The sign 13.5מ"מ that you see means 13.5 millimeters as the letter מ pronounced 'mem' is the eauivalent of the letter 'm' in English. The letter 'ח' that you see on the weapon is the israeli letter 'khet' is an abbreviation of חימוש pronounced 'khimoosh' means armament as the israeli armament corp supplies the weapons to the rest of the IDF - in hebrew called 'tsahal' or in hebrew צה"ל or the 'צ' that you see engraved.

[@kretinovalentino8054]

orisaig shalom

[@thebutcherofbenghazi.libya3348]

The mark at 6:40 means it's "kosher for pesach". I'm also Israeli.

[@hoppinggnomethe4154]

mem mem

[@siloseeairenicus5889]

When Ian debugs himself. :P

[@jonathangreer5001]

I really appreciate the attention to detail on the caliber distinctions. I recently bought one of these at a gun show from an owner who's father had owned the firearm and recently passed away. I was confused in seeing all of the "7.62" markings over the gun, yet the son who sold it to me remembered his father claiming that it was a 30-06 firearm before he passed, despite being very unsure himself. After inspecting the feed area you discuss at 10:30, its apparent that mine has been converted to 30-06 as it lacks the spacer for the alignment of the shorter catridges and appears to have an American barrel on it when compared to the Israeli barrel in your video. I'm thrilled to have that question answered, and im not surprised as to who was able to answer it. Thanks for what you do for the 2A community!

[@milsurpmarine8628]

As a US Marine in Beirut in 1982 with the Multinational Peacekeeping Force I found an ammo box with the markings all in Hebrew. A few years ago I tried to translate it using a camera translator. Much of it I could figure out from already knowing what the boxes should say, but there was one word that confused the hell out of me and I assumed the translation was wrong. The top line of the box said (reading right to left): 230 BALL 7.62mm / BROWNING The word browning completely perplexed me as I had no idea anyone, especially the IDF, was still using Browning machine guns. But even more confusing was that the caliber was 7.62 NATO. I assumed the IDF was using M60’s, same as us, but I just recently learned that they used MAG 58’s, but that still didn’t solve the mystery. Then I posted a photo on the IAA forum and learned that the Israelis did indeed use M1919A4’s which were converted to 7.62 NATO, mystery solved! Apparently, for the most part they were mounted on armored vehicles and the infantry used the MAG 58. Then I saw this video which really clarified things for me. Thanks for the great video.

[@kodiakkeith]

Huffing cosmoline will make you repeat words.

[@brettmclaughlin338]

kodiakkeith ,,, Cosmoline is Military surplus aftershave! LOL

[@Ty-jw6up]

Brett McLaughlin I'll make sure to shave with that someday 😄

[@feraligatorade99]

+TY. Using cosmoline to shave has the opposite effect, you end up growing a long majestic Russian beard.

[@Ty-jw6up]

SWITS Feral Well I do have Slav in me 😄😄

[@RyTrapp0]

Hey, whoa, we don't say that word!!!

[@junkers38]

The “U” means the gun is now Kosher

[@command_unit7792]

כשר(Kosher)

[@Govrin.]

ח*

[@NotoriusMaximus]

Its ח for חימוש Armament

[@arsenalrepublic2107]

@@NotoriusMaximus 'Our best friend in the Middle East', they've murdered everyone else!

[@NotoriusMaximus]

@@arsenalrepublic2107 huh?

[@Hirosjimma]

About the difficulty adjusting the headspace: You mentioned the Israeli version had a bolt-hold-open, so you could use that and have a hand free to push down the barrel detent spring.

[@oldfarthacks]

The other thing you can do is to use the manual bolt hold open system that is on all the guns. That system uses an empty cartridge case. You pull the bolt back to the proper place and stick the case through the right side receiver into the hole in the side of the bolt.

[@leshen7256]

Yup, looks like a reliable gun alright

[@DEFBONEZZ]

This video is reliable.

[@JB-xb3of]

dont forget that it is also more reliable

[@ilovequake833]

Ian too.

[@AsbestosMuffins]

probably one of the most complete and thorough conversions ian has ever covered

[@03bullseye]

I own one of these in full auto and just learned a bunch from you. I’m gonna go crack my safe now to inspect it closer. I bought mine 24 years ago and remember it being a DLO conversion if that means anything. Great video!!!!

[@skyefire3385]

Ian, you are by far the most knowledgeable and imformed person we have on the internet when it comes to giving information on guns. Matt Carriker of Demolition Ranch is good, but you get much deeper into presenting the kind of knowledge that most gun enthusiasts would never take the time to research.

[@Shadow_Hawk_Streaming]

I like how they made most of the changes relatively reversible, great for ammunition shortages, just swap a few parts and the barrel and away you go

[@davidhall6565]

Please don't take such awesome informative content away from us, KZbin.

[@nutz4gunz457]

But is it fully semi auto?

[@connorwald2016]

Yep, and it's reliable.

[@wingracer1614]

No, semi full auto.

[@JakeAnthony98]

The US Navy used the Mk 21 Mod 0 which was a 7.62x51 M1919 during Vietnam. These conversions happened between 1966 and 1967. Most Mk 21 Mod 0s ended up on “Brown Water” Navy boats conducted riverine combat in the Mekong Delta.

[@anthonyhayes1267]

KZbin commenters will always poke fun at any linguistic slip up. They're very reliable in that regard

[@rimsdad]

As did Canada convert to 7.62 called the C5 Never fired as good as the 30 cal though! Fired both in the 70's

[@linksbro1]

Saying "they're more reliable" twice in a row isn't exactly incorrect considering just how reliable these guns are.

[@bad74maverick1]

Just built my 1919A4 a little over a year ago. I have yet to shoot it. Ravenna Armory did mine. Fantastic work!

[@TheDLVProject]

Omg, we're never going to let this more reliable thing go

[@hoodyk7342]

Very interesting indeed, awesome video, hope KZbin isn't being to bad, been loving watching uploads an learning on this channel, really informative, keep up the great work.

[@Peterbilt359]

I've got one of these I bought at gun auction last year for 2500 has nice tall tripod. I don't know nothing about it. It just looked cool. Video helped a lot thanks

[@PorchPotatoMike]

Hmmm... The RIA listing still shows this as .30-06. I think they need to update.

[@RockIslandAuctionCompany]

Good catch! Let me double check.

[@MrDgwphotos]

The RIA listing isn't reliable... :D

[@casinbound5894]

A semi-auto belt fed gun has to be the single biggest tease in the firearms industry.

[@gumbomudderx7503]

I almost bought one of these for $1900 bucks, about 7-8 years ago at a gun show in Missouri. I kick myself now for not buying it

[@jamesdean4836]

You can still get em for about that price, with some assembly required. www.eparmory.com/1919-A4-308-BUILD-KIT_p_844.html

[@umvhu]

Rhodesian Armoured Car Regt used a British made (Usually BSA) M1919 originally chambered 303, modified to 7.62 nato. The barrel head space adjustment could alter the rate of fire but set at 600 rpm got the least stoppages, set at 600, stoppages were very rare. Fitted in an Eland 90 you could hit a man size target within 5 rounds at 2000 yards, very small spread pattern. Fitted to the Ferret armoured scout car it shot all over the place because everything in the turret was excessively worn and the gun jumped around a lot.

[@moosemaimer]

Needing a 3rd hand to work on something isn't such a big deal, when you're using what would have been a crew-served weapon. Still better than that naval gun that required a block and tackle to cycle the action.

[@petercrabtree6243]

Pretty sure the Israeli's wouldn't have had an issue with it. Their guns had the bolt hold open, allowing them to use both hands normally to set the headspace

[@doughesson]

Just when WERE you in the Navy? Plankowner in USS Constitution?

[@tig3r_lily]

Is it more reliable or more reliable

[@michaelbolton6529]

more reliable

[@100GTAGUY]

Yes

[@billjones5196]

Bryan Maynard is the guy that invented the S/A trigger and sear that we all use now

[@Skusioh]

A gun made in 1919.. produced in the millions even 20 years later in ww2.. simply outstanding.

[@BrettTrail]

The only thing that sucked about the 1919a4 parts kits was that when they first started being available for doing semi auto conversions was that the tripods cost more than the parts kits and were kind of hard to find. Other than that, it was a real fun experience to build one. Wished Ian had shown what was done to make it semi auto.

[@tedkier3264]

for all the young cubs watching; dont let ian's talk go unlearned! algebra is important to producing arms.it's important to life!

[@handsomerob1223]

Good to see that this model of Ian is more reliable and more reliable. The last model of Ian was only reliable.

[@34powers]

on the M2 we have that same hole on the side, it's to allow the barrel retaining spring to have enough space to move out of the barrel locking groves. And it's a visual aid to know you are in the right spot to remove the barrel without causing undo wear and tear on the parts

[@billyw.1291]

Mucho Gracias senior!

[@benec5816]

Thanks for another great post I am learning more love seeing seeing the stuff I fired have you done the SLR7.62 rifle that we Australia used stay safe

[@rediius]

I'm not sure that's a Forgotten Weapon quite yet, but if you stick around long enough I'm sure Ian will get to it!

[@caimin15221522]

That's basically just an FAL as far as I'm aware. I think he's done a video on one

[@MichiCree]

rediius "...but if you stick around long enough..." You dog! Haha

[@benec5816]

caimin15221522 not just a FAL they were great

[@caimin15221522]

rediius looks like you can read the future😂

[@colbeausabre8842]

In addition, the Canadians converted their M1919s to the C1/C5 (which I got to fire when my unit hosted a Canadian unit at Ft Lewis in the late Seventies) and these are just some of what is out thereMG4 is a South African upgrade of the M1919 in current use with the South African National Defence Force. The MG4 upgrade was done by Lyttleton Engineering Works, Pretoria.[38]MG m/52-1 and MG m/52-11 were Danish designations for the M1919A4 and M1919A5 respectively.[38]The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) used vehicle-mounted M1919A4 guns converted to 7.62mm NATO on many of their armored vehicles.[38]Ksp m/22 is the Swedish designation for license-built M1919s chambered for 8×63mm patron m/22 cartridges, for aircraft use.Ksp m/39 is the Swedish designation for M1919A4 license-built by Carl Gustafs Stads Gevärsfaktori chambered in 6.5×55mm and 8×63mm patron m/32, and from about 1975 rebarreled in 7.62×51mm NATO. Intended for use in tanks and armoured vehicles, it's available with both left- and right hand feeding, the former is used in CV 90.Ksp m/42 was the Swedish designation for license-built M1919A6 used for infantry support, normally chambered in 6.5×55mm but occasionally in 8×63mm patron m/32, and from about 1975, mostly fitted with barrels in 7.62×51mm NATO. The Ksp m/42B was a lighter version with bipod and shoulder stock (used in a similar way as the M1919A6), chambered in 6.5×55mm and later in 7.62×51mm. Even the ksp m/42B proved too heavy, and was replaced by the ksp m/58 (FN MAG). In the late 1980s, most remaining ksp m/42 was rebuilt into ksp m/39 to be installed into the CV 90s.The Poles developed a copy of the Browning M1919 chambered for 7.92×57mm Mauser, designated Ckm wz.32, similar to the earlier Ckm wz.30.

[@bruceinoz8002]

There are also other 7.62 NATO conversions in the "real" MG role. Australia, Canada and South Africa all seem to have "done their own thing" in this field. Some of them were also re-jigged to fire from an open bolt. The primary role of these converted guns was for vehicle-mounted deployment. From what I can find out, only South Africa persisted and carried out quantity conversions.

[@jimyoung440]

"more reliable and more reliable" HUH? So glad you caught that yourself but still a good chuckle. Even Gun Jesus isn't perfect! JimY

[@aldoraine3364]

Ran into one at a re-enactment, it was in .308 instead of the classic 30-06

[@professorjester5378]

I've got an open bolt Winchester 22 it was my Great grandfather's squirrel gun needless to say it's all original

[@JenniferinIllinois]

But are they more reliable? Hehehe...

[@Khanclansith]

That u shaped mark... Is this gun kosher?

[@Khanclansith]

joe jitsu your Rabbi is a very wise man.

[@unclestone8406]

*"Respect this weapon as the Levites in the Temple of the Almighty, else you're one dead meshuggener."*

[@Govrin.]

ח*

[@bami2]

This is a very reliable video.

[@thedoctorwillseeunow2233]

This plus a trigger crank sounds epic

[@user-oi8sq6ci8j]

"reliable and also more reliable" "let's take a muh-nite to take a closer look" honestly for the hours and hours of forgotten videos I've watched I'm impressed with the lacks of flubs in the dialogue. Maybe he was fatigued while shooting this day.

[@brencrun5068]

The right rear cartridge stop (which is riveted into the right side plate) also has to change. The one here has the Israeli stop, but it is possible to modify the original 30-06 stop so it will handle both.

[@ericcook7622]

When are we gonna get a 1919a4-a6 video?

[@CzechSixTv]

On the issue of adjusting the headspace, if it was in the original Israeli configuration, why would you need 3 hands? They added a bolt hold-open. Couldn't you simply lock the bolt back and use one hand on the barrel and the other to depress the spring? I'm referring to its military service configuration, not the semi-auto conversion.

[@jhouser12]

"It's not uncommon to find semi-auto machine guns well north of $5,000. The Browning 1919 is a cool exception to that..." Final sale price for this exact 1919 was $4,888. I don't know that I'd consider that much of an exception, unless that price takes the extra reliability into account.

[@nickperryjackkson284]

This maintenance dude I work with bought a m1919 with tripod and a few hundred belted rounds for 6000 from an auction house in state. Not sure if it's this type or not

[@exportedafrican]

I made a video about 10 years ago on how to headspace one of these. It's actually very easy!

[@hp9mm]

Where has the updated video gone? It has dissapeared???????

[@rebelcat420]

Damn, I want one of these!

[@2326TX]

Nice I learned a few things about mine.. I do have the Crankfire Systems installed on mine though.

[@MakeMeThinkAgain]

The main feature is that you get the chance to own the work of John Moses Browning.

[@CptMuttonchops]

I love you Ian.

[@eljayess]

I just saw one of these parts kits for sale in 30-06 . Are the parts the make it a working semi- auto still available? . It would be a great project.

[@moonpatrol9717]

I remember training with the Browning machine gun during my time in the South African Defence Force. I assume they also used the 1919 model. I also remember how a Corporal almost losing an eye when the gun jammed and a round exploded in his face when he tried to clear it.

[@harrychung433]

At least you caught yourself there, Ian. Imagine all the slings and arrows, you would have endured. Now, all we have to do is just wait for the Blooper Reels.

[@ChaplainPhantasm]

Imagine mounting a Springfield M1903 scope on that thing, if it would be possible. Just imagine.. o.O

[@jerrell1169]

Alpha Mihai With some duct tape anything’s possible

[@jerrell1169]

J J Put a grenade launcher and red dot on that baby!

[@aserta]

Why stop at red dot, put a red cross on that thing. I want my targets sanctified before they cross over.

[@ChaplainPhantasm]

Why not a .50 BMG ACOG then? (And yes, it exists)

[@DarknessViper99]

It can actually be used as a sniper with the addition of a scope, believe it or not. I mean it’s .50 cal and has a decent barrel length by default, so why not?

[@chriscary4074]

13:15 to 14:00 in the original Israeli design it would have the bolt hold open so you could make adjustments with only 2 hands

[@Carlos-e9y5p]

I'll look up this guns specifics later but the ak47 just has a cone that traps gasses at the end of the barrel to boost them. It sounds like it works. If you even believe an oblong projectile magically goes on target because we believe it spins because of cuts in a barrel.

[@lolroflpmsl]

Ian Mccullon - Reliable and Reliable!

[@Subgunman]

Have seen some interesting fire control groups made for these in the day, one even utilized a trigger pack modified from an AR 15. I am sure this was intentional since the assembly could be upgraded with most of the FA parts.

[@echoschnupowitz6250]

For the head spacing issue, maybe Israelis did use the hold open lever to get rid of 3.rd hand necessity.

[@mrteacher1315]

Ian, can you do a comparison of M60 with M1919? Thanks.

[@matthewtscott1]

So was it just the headspace they modified to make it semi auto? Or the oil buffer and sear assembly as well? Would have loved to see a full strip down. I remember we would up the firing rate on the AS model by adjusting the headspace. Also the barrel bearing plug was used for use in the aircraft role, while a flash suppressor was fitted in the ground / vehicle mount. This is my second favourite weapon of choice, being mounted in tandem with the 50 cal on the M113 A1. 12 O'CLOCK INFANTRY IN TRANCHES DUAL ACTION , FIRE!! 😂 😂 🤣

[@michaeltubbs4606]

Did the Israelis design their own links specifically for this weapon and ammunition combination or are the links used in another weapon?

[@ritterbruder212]

I was wondering what a “fully semi-auto” gun was. Thanks for clarifying :D

[@titaniummechanism3214]

Must be really dang reliable if he puts so much emphasis on it!

[@7sins-]

So how reliable is the reliability?

[@XtreeM_FaiL]

SinfulLad More reliable.

[@kenhelmers2603]

Thanks Ian!

[@TheKingOfHeartsIV]

Israeli M1919: ✅ Reliable ✅ Reliable

[@omartorres5688]

What is also cool is like the MG42 the browning M1919 can also be hip fired in a pinch

[@akashmukherjee2405]

Try AEK 971 / AK 107 please

[@akashmukherjee2405]

Nøderak 😋 AK 630!!!! 6 barrel 30 mm Gun!!!! That's a big challenge for Mr. McCallum....

[@akashmukherjee2405]

Hagen I agree....

[@nc_classics_9610]

Akash Mukherjee He needs to head to Russia!

[@Thes4LT]

He has already had a look at the AN-94, which uses the same operating system as the AEK and AK 107. Watch that one.

[@KhabarovVictor]

No, AN-94 is almost completely different from AEK, it has unique and stupid system, unsuitable for mass used gun.

[@rubencarvajalcrusader2195]

I own two 1919A4’s they are both fun to shoot just make sure the headspace is correct or else you can bend the top cover when the cartridge ruptures, I know that from “experience “😂😂

[@jmitchell6094]

Ultra reliable Ian

[@skoopsro7656]

Buy this, get yourself a crank handle, and your GOLDEN

[@asteroidrules]

Was there a particular reason for cutting that slot in the bolt handle? My best guess would be for mounting something else onto the bolt handle, maybe a rearward bolt handle akin to what the US added on the M37 version of the 1919.

[@ABCantonese]

What kind of belt did it use? The M1?

[@Zajuts149]

Those weeks up that RIA sure can get long:)

[@robdonnelly1015]

Great show thank you. Have you ever heard of the Canadian Armies version of the 1919A4 aka C5A1 GPMG ? Perhaps you could do a show on this version someday. Thank you

[@thegunnut1944]

So I live in the uk and own a deactivated m1919a4 and a m1919a6. Both are original US made but Israeli modified but don't have all of the modifications you have stated in this video. Is it possible they are early Israel modified m1919s?

[@CrowBag]

Christ. That thing is a monster.

[@freilichwurscht]

Ghost Nappa that's what she said

[@CrowBag]

grantig So i’ve been told......

[@calholli]

Look up the M2 ... The ma deuce

[@polygondwanaland8390]

Ghost Nappa it's also more reliable

[@davidgrover5996]

Ghost Nappa fun to lug around the shop two but good for the strength training.

[@VinceValenti]

"More reliable and more reliable. So... Did I just say more reliable and more reliable?" Literally ROFL .

[@chuckk458]

It’s almost like JMB went.. “Open bolt? Hmm.. No, that would make it more complex if someone wanted to do a semi auto conversion later. Best leave it closed bolt.”

[@comderbob]

Quick correction the US Army never did a caliber conversion of the M1919. The US Navy did a caliber conversion to 7.62 NATO and redesignated those as Mk 21 Mod 0.

[@ForgottenWeapons]

So what you are saying it that the Army never converted them to 7.62 NATO? :)

[@admiralpercy]

Could you talk about the physics involved in booster cones? My reading says they increase the recoil to the action of the gun, but does not increase felt recoil. How does that work?

[@b00ce]

"More reliable aaand... more reliable." works

[@NZMASTEROFGAME]

I think that's your new t-shirt slogan "it's more reliable and it's more reliable"

[@erzherzogalbrecht8504]

Whats the point in a Semiauto formaly heavy MG?