The best badges ever placed on cars - The Carmudgeon Show - Ep. 17

[@artsohc]

Jason when carmudgeon started: *no one wants to watch us ramble for an hour* Videos 58:30 Me: *keep going*

[@richardmahoney9415]

artsohc actually I rather enjoy listening to Jason ramble

[@artsohc]

@@richardmahoney9415 My comment is in response to the earlier carmudgeon episodes when they had a 20 minute timer to keep the episodes shorter and to keep them on-topic. The general response was "throw the timer out and go longer". I am happy they did so.

[@josephwalter6672]

35:20 my favorite "Easter egg" badge is the Honda Accord v6's where the "v6" badge lettering was normally black for the automatic cars but were red if the car had a manual.

[@charleshu5752]

I love the Kompressor badge in early 00 Mercedes

[@asterioslytsioulis4226]

Ikr?😂

[@Arthagnou]

total chick car

[@kirbyswarp]

@Sideways G yes 180hp out of a supercharged 2.3L is cool. Honda made more out of a 1.6

[@kirbyswarp]

@Sideways G 194hp out of a 2.3 S/C is also complete garbage, and that's given that it's the most powerful version of the 2.3.

[@alexmartinez280]

@@kirbyswarp Pretty sure the SC was to improve torque bc those cars are driven slow from stop and go cruising around town. Would help to know what type of compressor was used; positive displacement vs centrifugal. I def hear what your saying though, it’s Lmost like what’s the point to add the extra hardware for such a messily addition of power. The Lancia Beta VX was another that had such tiny, on paper, gain over the NA variants. They used Volumex compressors which in itself is a very rare brand to use for anyone let alone a manufacturer. Volumex was also used for the 037 cars so there was a legit reason. Maybe for homologation?

[@bonkle_boi]

oh and speaking of letters, i don’t think i heard you guys mention Nissan’s AWD system on the Skyline GTRs. It started out as ATTESA, but the addition of a variable front/rear torque split feature made the name change to ATTESA E-TS, which then evolved to ATTESA E-TS Pro. Advanced Total Traction Engineering System for All-Terrain w/ Electronic Torque Split. gotta love the japanese

[@b0kb0k]

I *LOVE* this channel and especially this show. Keep it up gents. I'll keep watching and telling my (admittedly limited number of) friends about it. Much appreciated.

[@surrealtom]

I just reply to my phone screen 😂😂

[@HimTortons]

It's the 1.9 TDI badge for me. Tells the other drivers that this engine isnt gonna break down anytime soon. The Transmission might die, so might the driver, the universe may end, but that 1.9l TDI will keep running

[@thesoutherncross100]

"What other technology would you like to discuss other than douching technology" "Water injection" I laughed...

[@Shakshuka69]

"Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara Altitude Diesel" is an actual model name.

[@KiraYamato209]

Porsche Panamera 4S E-Hybrid Sport Turismo

[@johndc2998]

You're forgetting the EcoDiesel which was longer

[@prettynormalme27]

"Sir Isaac Newton said you'd go whichever way the tree is" BAHAHAHAHAHA

[@Kalepsis]

Regarding the carburetor badging: how could you forget 440 SIX PACK

[@rhatala27]

Best badge is an ///M on a 320d.

[@campkira]

poser.....

[@autohut3720]

Imagine on a 316i and the guy can say it’s fine because it’s an M sport

[@kienphongquach9807]

Ferrari badge on an MR2

[@davevan9150]

My first car in high school was a 1985 Chrysler daytona turbo, with a huge "TURBO" decal down the side. It became my nickname.

[@OpiceSF]

The US used to MANDATE red turn signals! All my old Alfas had red turn signal lenses, where the rest of the world had amber. First thing I did with each was get Euro lenses and swap them out!

[@nirfz]

35:00 VW did something like this long ago with the TDI badge: all letters silver: lowest hp, red "I" low medium hp, red DI medium high hp, all 3 letters red highest hp variant. (i think it was 90, 110, 140, 180 hp) The need for 4wd or awd badges: it might not be the reason, but there are parts in the alps where it is possible that an awd/4wd car is excempt from having to put snow chains on certain roads under certain conditions, while 2wd cars have to or won't be allowed to drive on. And if police checks, the badge makes it easier for them. Also, i'm 40 years old and i still wait for Mr. Camisa to sing something i know/recognize too.

[@nathanwabre]

@25:00 me French speaker laughing so much! 🇫🇷😂

[@teddyhaseltine6288]

I’m so glad you guys are making this show. Finally! A show for real enthusiasts and not just to market the latest cars to us. Keep the content coming!

[@nathanwabre]

Maserati dug very deep for their names: 4 doors sedan: Quattroporte | SUV: Levante meaning lifted 😂

[@tjones002]

Hi Jason, @unusualtomjones here, i.e. the internet, helping you understand what chassis to call an 1800TI/SA (Touring International Sonderausführung). Those pre 2002 four doors are generally referred to as Neue Klasse sedans, though the 1500-1800 chassis was referred to as a Type 118 internally by BMW. While they had a long last name, BMW didn’t badge them any differently than the already existing 1800TI. This geek is just happy that you mentioned the super unknown 1800 TI/SA homologation special at all. They’re near and dear to my heart as my dad has owned one since ‘89 that was raced in NorCal from ‘66-69. On the note of long sporting sedan names, the Alfa Romeo Giulia TI Super was a very similar car to the 1800TI/SA in execution and long name. I'm sure Bill Arnold could tell you just as much too. ;)

[@Trendyflute]

Haha, back when Dodge was doing the "that thing got a Hemi in it?" ad campaign, my friends and I would joke anytime we saw a Ford F-150: "Hey, that thing got a Lariat in it?"

[@campkira]

You mean the Ram? yeah Hemi but drink up fuel like hell.... only fool own it...most powerful track in the world don't mean much...

[@chikenbagdotcom9305]

@@campkira wut

[@Kalepsis]

I desperately want to see more of that dark green 488 Pista in the background. What a perfect color for that car.

[@driftaw]

Your french is so good. Where does that come from? Not that it matters, but "déesse" has an "accent aigu", rather than "accent grave" (which is on the other side, like "è") Amazing stuff! Love your show.

[@shanavlakaram4919]

I honestly do not get this excited for any other video from any other automotive channel. Thank you for these awesome videos. The Maserati trident badge is probably the coolest looking badge in the business.

[@gkky_]

Cammisa, I just started German in college, you're saving me years with that zeug thing

[@romaingallard8385]

The « System Porsche » badge on the little Seat Ibiza 1.2 and 1.5 from the 90’s is quite funny too!

[@lhgdcz]

To nitpick a little bit, King Ranch is actually a ranch in Texas, its a licensed name like Lincoln Town Car Cartier. The original King Ranch actually used Saddle leather (I think King Ranch is famous for selling saddles).

[@sridhark9973]

Before watching video: Damn who talks about badges for an hour??? After watching: Why did you end it so soon?😍😍

[@spenzalii]

My favorite time of Wednesday! My two favorite car nerds talking intelligently about nerdy car things. Don't change

[@DidierFort]

Badges could be important in certain situation, like AWD, so that a tow truck does not damage your car. Or that a hybrid or EV has a large battery in case of an accident, important for first responders.

[@philippvonweitershausen3076]

It’s amazing how good Jason’s German is. Near native speaker level pronunciation. Also my favorite badge is the “Lambda Sons” grille badge on Volvo 240s.

[@philippvonweitershausen3076]

Haha of course DTS brings up the Lambda Sond badge haha

[@bwill357]

Volvo badged all their turbo cars "Intercooler" in the 80's....iconic.

[@bonkle_boi]

i absolutely love! that these are getting longer and longer, i enjoy them entirely too much. keep it up!

[@tuononno92]

About stability control badges: as I'm sure you know, when Mercedes launched the original A Class in the 90s they had roll over issues. one of the countermeasures they took to solve the problem was to install stability control on all A Classes. Those are recognizable by the ESP badge at the back. Also: Fahrzeug (driving thing) is another example of weird german words.

[@shinners8965]

Two that come to mind. Buick Grand national having the intercooler badge in later models. Euro mkiv R32 having a dsg badge I believe since it was one of the firsts with the dual clutch.

[@Vonstroke]

When can we see a tour of the collection?

[@markcowland5384]

The RTS badge was used on Holden's in the 1970's, not sure if it was also used on GM cars elsewhere. And my favorite badging of all time is the early 1990's Subaru Liberty RS where the text takes up almost the whole length of the rear door with something like 'symmetrical all wheel drive 16 valve fuel injected intercoolded turbo

[@mattd.8775]

Man, I think my favorite badge has to be the 22B badge. It is all just in one uncharacteristically neat rectangle. This is opposed to the incredibly 90's JDM era pink and lime green WRX stickers that were slapped on the center of the trunk. Honorable mention to the pink Impreza logo as well.

[@silentsniper441]

I coded the taillights on my mk7 so that during simultaneous braking and signaling, the quarter panel portion flashes for signaling and the hatch portion stays fully illuminated to show that i'm braking.

[@enigmaPL]

Best badge on a car?? Supra badge on a BMW Z4. /sarcasm lol

[@fafalala7069]

look forward to this so bloody much

[@jackh5489]

All the British Fords in the early ABS days wore ALB badges...and the longest name on the back of a 80's car in Europe was; Citroen CX 25 Prestige Turbo 2 Automatic ABS, those frenchies...

[@jsquared1013]

The transition from "douche" to "water injection" was rather amusing 😂

[@6rimR3ap3r]

My 91 Supra came with a sticker, either dealer or shipping yard applied, which says "Mit A.B.S." right below the rear number plate :-D What I kinda liked was the red elephant on my Lancia Y 1.2 16V, cause it was the elefantino rosso trim.

[@mr22guy]

I was hoping for some discussion on emblems. Car companies have made some beautiful (and some bad) logos. VW has an iconic logo that looks good on the front, back, or wheels of a car, while I've never liked the new Mazda logo.

[@verdict1163]

Love the podcast.

[@andrewhigdon8346]

On the topic of multiple carbs and badging. Tri-power was GM, but mostly used on Pontiacs, and Six-Pack was the Chrysler nomenclature. Ford had the three deuces also but the nomenclature was not an official “company” moniker, and although an option on some engine combos such as the FE 406, it was very rare. And for the record Jason, the three carbs were usually the same casting, with the center carb having the choke plate and the outer ones having none, and the outer cabs were actuated either by vacuum or progressive linkage.

[@ryanspear9229]

What about the “foxx hunt” badge on the Ford F-150 back in the 70’s? It was in Smokey and the bandit I think.

[@FREEDOM-FIGHTER-ONE]

Min 3:00: Jason, please correct me but do you mean 730i, because on E32 there wasn´t a 728i available?!

[@stevenmaterio2972]

Forgot about the "6 pack" 340 and 440 Mopars. Best name for 3 2 barrel crabs.

[@alexmartinez280]

Check out the 3C badge for Lancia Flaminia that represented 3 double barrel carbs.

[@auroralazar5891]

In Europe, Renault did put stickers on the rear window glass "ESP - Correcteur électronique de trajectoire de serie " and when they put a fuel injection system for the first time on Dacia ( one fuel injector system ) they wrote on them as well, in Romanian, and it would translate as "Dacia with a Fuel Injected Engine". This was around 2000-2002..

[@abbyjo75]

I finally found my people. Car geeks I can listen to all day. BTW, I own a 2006 Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer edition with both RSC (Roll Stability Control) and a V8 badge (has the 292hp 4.6l 3v from the Mustang GT). The latter differentiates between the standard 4.0l V6 and the modular v8. Great show. Maybe a show about auto manufacturers rebadging other manufacturers' models? Like Saab/Subaru 9-2x/Impreza, Saab/Chevy Cavalier {Opal Vectra}, Saab/Chevy 9-7x/Trailblazer, Mazda Tribute/Ford Escape, and many more. Probably some really good ones to make fun of, lol. Might be entertaining. Love you guys!

[@neutrondamus5655]

I wonder if I'm the only french who've watched this show, I am actually dying under laughs, the academy is even hated in the foreign Countries Love it to see people portraying frenchs👏

[@simontallboy209]

An episode of Proper care and feeding about MDS tech and the best way to maintain such systems would be good, especially with all the contradictory info on the web.

[@rickmassey1272]

@37:00... cars should have a knight rider sweeping scanner light ,like K.I.T.T., to indicate to others when self drive was engaged. 😊..Red in front, amber in the lower rear valance

[@LouT1501]

Hey there over a year later, J. Camissa. I like that my e46 330i has few badges, which I changed to black to match the shadowline trim. I de-badged my other car, a VW sportwagon diesel, just because it was easier to wash without them. Interesting conversations that I found a ways down the road.

[@jman642]

The Germans in WWII made a toilet on submarine U-1026 so complicated that using it incorrectly flooded the batteries and ultimatum led to it sinking. That said, I love the 'Stratification Wheel' fine temperature adjustment on my older BMW.

[@nirfz]

Am i correct in guessing you have either seen the video by "The History guy" or "today i found out"?

[@GenaroLabrin2711]

Here in Argentina we've got Chevrolet "400 Super Sport" or "400 Rally Sport"... all in the trunk, side front and side back. And also the famous Torino "380W", 380 for the displacement and the W standing for the three Weber carburetors

[@alexmartinez280]

Lancia had the awesome 3C badge on the Flamina cars for 3 double barrel carbs on their V6 engines. Also the French DS drop head was called the Decapatable. Decapitate the car or drop it’s head… much more aggressive than the American convertible. That DS Decap is still one of the best looking drop tops of all time. Especially the Series 1 cars before the futuristic headlights the later cars came with.

[@FREEDOM-FIGHTER-ONE]

Min 42:30: GOTCHA...!! Good work, Derek! haha

[@crisgokid]

42:31 He said it....

[@benzinapaul7416]

In Italy we had the Alfa Romeo 33S 16V Permanent 4 QV which when spoken was the 'Alfa Romeo Trentatre Esse Seidicivalvole Permanent Quattro Quadrifoglio Verde'. Fiat had 'Antiskid' on the Uno Turbo ie which was a shit version of ABS.

[@mydsmber05]

The Radial Tuned Suspension was actually Pontiacs name for the F41 sport suspension option that was available on most GM products in the 70’s. Buick called it “Rallye tuned”, Cadillac called it “Touring Suspension. Also the King Ranch pickups are a tie-in with the actual King Ranch in South Texas.

[@cvandenhaute]

Mercedes did put the ESP badge on some cars in the late 90’s, after the elan test issue with the A-Class

[@trewebster5884]

These are golden👌🏾

[@donaldfeiner9708]

hey, speaking of transmissions and odd poop, I think it was the C5 vet, had a auto overdrive behind their 5 sp manual transmissions. you selected the lower of the gears and it would blast around the track... (yeah, right) then it used what was essentially a converter-less powedrglide trans to up the final ratio out of the transmission before the differential. check that one out !!

[@tomasz899]

Discussing badges must be the most surprising topic do touch on podcast... After first 3 minutes I thought 'did they really run out of topics?!' and after next 3 minutes I was like 'wow, that's interesting'... You two could probably make show about airbag shapes in different cars and it still would be great. content

[@Kirty_e30]

25:33 "tu parles français aussi ?" ça fait bizarre d'entendre Jason parler français ^^ mais il se débrouille super bien !!

[@FREEDOM-FIGHTER-ONE]

So I rebadged all my preowned cars which had no badges. And there were many of them: 1999 Seat Toledo 1999 Audi A6 2.5 TDI quattro 2001 Audi A8 3.3 TDI quattro 2000 Audi S8 4.2 quattro 2004 Mercedes-Benz E 400 CDI Avantgarde 2007 Audi A8 3.0 TDI quattro 1994 BMW 520i 1992 Mercedes-Benz 190 E 1.8 Avantgarde Rosso 1998 Mercedes-Benz C 43 AMG 1995 BMW 518i 2002 Audi A8 3.3 TDI quattro I LOVE BADGES!!

[@EnhancedNightmare]

My scirocco has full badge delete from factory. Previous owner even went the length of removing special edition decals on the sides. He was a German, ofcourse.

[@manbowv8]

I think another interesting badging thing GM did with Cadillac was on the first gen CTS and STS model with 4wd, the crests on the center caps were in color while the rwd cars did not have the crest in color. I would always confirm that theory when looking for the small 4 under the model badge on the trunk.

[@kristisrb]

By the way, in Europe, some first gen A class Mercedes, w168, actually had ESP badge on them.

[@ferrsche25]

'Internet Inside' is a hilarious one for me. As if the name Hector wasn't gangsta enough. But then it does talk about MG being a connected car 'leader'

[@romaingallard8385]

Yes, Few french cars with 4wd. I remember the Peugeot 405 T16 but that didn't have a special name or badge for awd. Renault was calling their 4wd Quadra! I'm surpised you didn't mention Integrale for the italians and Lancia, that sounded really cool! A funny one was Audi putting V6T badges on the S4/S5/Q5 with the 3.0l Supercharged!

[@KevinGre]

amber turn signals! How do we start the movement to fix this?

[@arthrmr]

Such a good episode!

[@igorluiz1561]

One badge that I find funny is "catalisador" in some 80's brazilian Volkswagens. It means, literally, "catalytic converter"

[@McBeamer94]

They also had this badge here in Europe! "Katalysator" is the word! ;-P

[@culjonez22]

Last Month I de-badge my Tundra and it looks so much cleaner.

[@catlee8064]

I removed my RS Q3 badges...unless you know Audis, it looks like a Q3 with large wheels....surprises alot of ppl!

[@nirfz]

I think it's because people can't look it up. My good old E63 has the original 6.3 badges on the side and AMG on the brake calipers as well as on the exhausts. (but they are so dirty that people can't read it) And still only very few enthusiasts are aware what it is.

[@iscrubsoapmctavish9311]

Talking about the amber turn signals; the VW MK7 Jetta has amber rear turn signals except for the 2021 model, which has red. no idea why

[@zoz10101]

748/996 still the most beautiful bike..

[@bluetoes591]

I've seen four wheel brake warnings on cars from other countries from that era. The Mitsubishi Starion is another vehicle with only rear ABS.

[@flyingphoenix113]

The Ti/SA was the BMW new class sedan series (specifically the 1600). Another car that you guys failed to discuss in your sports sedan episode.

[@jamesonpace726]

Leftie? SOME DAY WE'LL RULE THE WORLD! (Shouted, left fist clenched & raised to the sky...!)

[@MAtogable]

Alfa's "Twin Spark" ...

[@sanjaymehta6948]

Rear wheel ABS actually worked well for what it was, and BTW it was around almost 20 years before the '87 F150 got it....check out Sure Track on the Lincoln Mark III.

[@justinturner4850]

I’m not a Merc nut, but I think the “V8 Bi Turbo” badge is cool. Then again, the AMG GTR is pretty cool in general...

[@petrolsixty9167]

As a german, I just love your german and the german accent 😁👌

[@kentvonseverin1257]

I admire how all reflections to motorsport look back to water-cooled Volkswagen, where many of us got our bump start into gearheadism

[@JamesArmagost]

42:31 - Douche?? LOL Enjoyed this episode. I de-badge all of my rides with exception to a couple of vehicles I take to shows. My Saturn Sky Turbo Redline (yes, still have one...why?? I don't know!) - BADGE GONE! I hate badges!

[@Iamthestig42069]

We actually did win the war with throttle body injection. The Allison v12 was equipped with mechanical throttle body injection and made its way onto the p38,p39 and p40. They weren’t faster than Merlin powered aircraft but the Soviets had a ton of success with the p39 and the p38 was very successful in the Pacific while the p40 was a workhorse all over.

[@kcspeed9980]

do the hazards come on when abs is activated on most cars?

[@curtislovrak5390]

‘GLE 320 CDI 4-Matic’. Now that’s a lot of mumbo jumbo.

[@subarnosinha8042]

SOx stands for oxides of sulphur (Sulfur).

[@IanMcCloghrie]

"ROTARY POWER" In the early 2000s, CARB had a required percentage of ZEVs that manufacturers were supposed to sell. That was essentially impossible to meet (the tech really didn't exist yet), so they introduced a new standard of emissions that was low enough that selling a certain number of them counted as a single ZEV, thus "partial ZEV".

[@doormat8346]

39:30 i drove past a guy in a fatal crash and all that identified the car was the light up benz badge

[@mbanck]

About coupe badges - BMW used to add "c" to coupes/cabriolets back in the days, like 330ci

[@Budiwoyz1]

this show makes me so happy

[@TTMR1986]

Rented a C class from Turo to drive a friend away from her wedding. Had the window sticker conspicuously placed on the passenger seat. It had one option selected and only one. Illuminated Badges...

[@michaelharrison1093]

I used to own JDM subaru impreza wrx sti type ra v limited. Since it was JDM it had all of these designation letters on it. Note that this was the rare V limited not just the more common RA limited. From what I could work out about the designation letters the more it had was in a direct coloration to the more trim details that were removed from the car to make it light weight. I.E. you paid a higher price to have more of the standard trim items removed from the car.

[@drcoolio93]

Olds 442. 4 barrel carb, 4 on the floor, and dual exhaust

[@anon5500]

Best car show available, on tv or online!