Forza Horizon 5 - Showing FWD Superiority with Racing Slicks in A-Class

[@IsuckAtDriving]

Remember these tunes are on racing slicks and only work on dry and not in wet! Timeline: 0:00 - Tune codes 0:18 - Reservorio Sprint w/ Fiesta ST 3:00 - Canon Run w/ Acura RSX 5:44 - Hilltop Descent w/ Acura Integra 8:07 - Ruta Norte w/ Fiesta ST

[@k_e_K_e___]

I wish there were slicks for wet races 😔

[@veimik388]

@@k_e_K_e___ that's literally what semi slicks are for

[@lazellfraizer8759]

whats your favourite out the three? The Acura's look more competitive

[@ctrtuga1]

i perfere when is wet 🥵

[@Modmaann]

Id love for you to make a focus svt or a 09 mini jcw tune or mini Cooper gp tune for A class

[@istvanlorinczi2817]

I really like the changes made to RWD compared to FH4, now it's actually possible to be competitive without AWD swapping everything

[@m_rod9562]

The difference is extremely obvious, glad they made those changes. They were much needed

[@Trussme96]

I just love that semi-slicks and slicks actually grip now and launches aren't total ass anymore

[@alexanderpeel5106]

Rwd still feels really underpowered though, at least it’s a step up

[@DewaKrishna_]

@@alexanderpeel5106 RWD just needs good throttle management. Hell i even RWD swapped my GTRs because AWD feels excruciatingly heavy / understeery this time around, and now they work waay better for online races

[@I-Akatsuki-I]

RWD was faster than AWD in FH4 too, was just a little harder to use. Some of the fastest leaderboard cars were RWD for stuff like powerbuilds and even for balanced builds RWD was faster sometimes. Really S2 was the only class RWD wasn’t very competitive in besides Monaco King Cobra. All that being said, RWD and no forza aero is stronger in this game than it was in FH4 and a lot of cars are faster without aero now other than like S2.

[@jordanprice9285]

I remember actually being able to smoke dudes in A class with a supercharged FWD EK Hatch B series Civic Type R and was beating dudes with Dom's charger and all that stuff back in FH2 when that was out. Haven't been able to compare in other games but FWD cars are hecka underrated especially on here.

[@JohnLucasPolak]

After learning a tracks and a car, beating overpowered guys while dodging all the rammers with my A class NA B16 FWD EK9 back in Horizon 3 was unbelievably satisfying. That little car's win ratio was so high, it really made the game hard to put off sometimes.

[@g.dfirestarta6474]

We do turn very good, We do accelerating ok.

[@sergioh2015]

@@g.dfirestarta6474 throttle control can help a bit I'm sure.

[@comet7676]

I’m sure god is very proud of you for saying hecka

[@almar456]

You can get 668HP out of an FWD VW Corrado in B-class. Gets smoked off the line, but makes it all up on the end of the straight and still corners pretty well. Would recommend!

[@christiantaylor1495]

Cornering faster lets you enter straights at a higher speed making you start accelerating from a higher starting speed making you faster on straights too

[@sub-machinegun]

@@christiantaylor1495 this why muscle cars exist, to compensate the slow turning on corners

[@christiantaylor1495]

@@sub-machinegun No, cornering faster means being faster on the straights. A muscle car cornering slower slower makes it slower on the straights because it comes out the corner at a lower speed. You can just put a big wing and splitter on a muscle car to make it corner fast anyway.

[@thestarlightalchemist7333]

@@christiantaylor1495 I can see what you mean, but with the way powerbuilds work, that logic goes out the window. Forza physics are dumb that way.

[@christiantaylor1495]

@@thestarlightalchemist7333 I'm just saying what race car engineering lessons say. I had top 1% rivals times on my account before it got banned. Actually, thank you for this comment. You have got my nostalgia flowing, and now I feel compelled to finally start a new on Horizon 5. I just miss my Trueno so much 🥲 Driving that thing around corners on the same track dozens of times learning how to speedrun the track like a tes bot into top 1% was the best 🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲 And I make money very slowly so it will take another 4 months to be able to afford 7 million. I just use PC2, ABS2, and ACC for competitive racing anyway. So in Forza I work based on real life engineering principles and not metabuilds.

[@owenjackson4755]

Driving cars like the Acura Integra and similar bring about such nostalgia from older racing games. I believe it was Juiced if I am not mistaken.

[@xboxbenny]

The integra is insanely fast, one I use from GReddy295 is like 2300 lbs and corners like a God

[@V.XXII_Monolith]

NFS Underground too ⚡

[@deserte099]

Woah that name brought back so many memories. I never thought I'd hear it again. I remember all the hours I put in juiced 2: hin

[@alalal123421]

the rsx 🔥

[@cranberryegg1236]

I actually made mine like an opponents integra from prostreet (the one with camouflage), haven't got the tuning down though :/

[@CrazyDude269]

5:26 You can feel the rage hahahah

[@dominiksery748]

well credit for that guy to take it like a man and not ramm him of the fkin map.

[@michaelmunson6809]

@@dominiksery748 facts. even though at that speed idk if you can ram.

[@stam1ska]

I lmao of it

[@Mighty_Marty]

Haha that 2nd race I was like... Uuugh, got slow ass Brian in front with his blown manifold. 🤣

[@palpatinethesenatehog7086]

Lmao I noticed that too, why can't he never learn.

[@glitch_finder69]

Fwd is finally somewhat competitive in road racing as well? Wow, I never thought I would say that, thanks forza for giving us the slicks for the fwd cars

[@Trussme96]

The RSX and Integra Type-R were still pretty good in A-Class in FH4 as well. The RSX was my most successful car by a large margin.

[@iwasapirateonce1639]

Fwd was beastly on FH4 circuits the issue was races were too short to always catch up

[@mh13mini]

irl Honda's are great in autocross

[@AthenaAutocross]

@@iwasapirateonce1639 There was also the issue that most circuits started on a fucking stand still uphill. That's 15 seconds behind every race at the start. Didn't matter if your lap times were insanely fast since you'd lose at the start anyways.

[@Mantebb]

Was not expecting to see Elise GT1 and Ford GT in an A-class race

[@blease6657]

A class Elise gt1 is nearly unbeatable in A class if its driven by someone competent

[@nerdnec]

The Ferrari 360 sc is a great A class

[@rye4236]

I always wondered why the elise gt1 wasn't seen much in A class, you barely need to brake with that thing

[@ToyotaCorolla-qs7ml]

It got the formula one handling treatment

[@kylem7917]

If you're a maniac like me you can use the Aventador in A class too. On drag tires 😆

[@thiagodutrassantos8965]

I've been playing old gran turismo for a long time and i have some tips to help the community (let's make it clear that i don't know if they apply to this game) To improve the fwd car start you should increase the rear height (to go with less weight to the rear and stay where it matters at the front) Front-wheel drive cars need to have a looser rear end to help the front get around corners (up to a limit because you don't get unsteered (and just watch a race of front-wheel drive cars with little aerodynamics to see how the cars go sideways) This is visible in the difference of driving the Acura Integra for the ford fiesta (It seems that the ford is heavy and slow) to make the back looser you should increase the back stiffness and height (which consequently improves the start) I think this game even has convergence that should be left tighter in stronger fwd cars (Up to a clear limit) And lastly, if the differential lock is too strong, the car drives forward under heavy acceleration (this is visibly clear on high and long corners, and again and more visible in the case of the ford fiesta) And if possible use aerodynamics in front and back Because it allows a loose rear adjustment for low corners and is stable on high corners (if it's too forward, you should lower the rear aerodynamics first to send the aerodynamic center of gravity further back, if it's too rearward you should increase the aerodynamics at the front to send the aerodynamic center forward) All that's been said here are general tips, because this hitting issue is big enough to fill a dam with knowledge and is highly addictive, being able to spend days hitting a car up to the maximum limit the chassis can handle Well I've stretched too much, so success in the videos!!!

[@itano07]

Thx for explaining in detail.

[@IsuckAtDriving]

Thanks for the write up. Regarding aero, the aero parts in this game are very ugly on hatchbacks especially. So I avoid it personally.

[@thiagodutrassantos8965]

@@IsuckAtDriving Well, as I said, these are just tips and I don't know this game well, and you don't need them (you have too much skill to get around this) But with the right aerodynamic parts (this also includes a close ratio transmission scaled to the car's power, so you don't get a tractor) you could have passed that Ford GT in the sequence of turns from the 9:54 minute of the video (I would have done all of 6 gear because the chassis has ) and stay side by side on that straight before the finish line (all speculation based on the little experience I have) It's good to discuss with those who like to race and like cars Since we are few today Thanks for listening

[@Derramtark]

Hey, I've been tuning my Megane RS thanks to your advice and I'm still tweaking things here and there. I really like the feel I got from my car thanks to your advices. Would you be incline to share the same for RWD and AWD cars aswell ? It's always a pleasure to read passionate people talking about their hobbies !

[@thiagodutrassantos8965]

@@Derramtark Well I can give you some tips for rwd and awd cars Now I don't know if it will help as in the case of fwd cars Then tell what has improved in Renault =) Well, for starters, I'll put it in numbered topics 1. The first thing I hit on an rwd car is the camber, because it's no use having a car that doesn't go sideways, but it doesn't turn and is licking the wall or measuring the outside of the track, usually these cars are very forward when entering the curve after braking (especially after you take off weight, big engine on the front and only empty rear can) 2.height Lower at the front and higher at the back, the amount of adjustment depends on how much the car understeer out of the curve (lower front, lowers the front center of gravity making the steering faster, up to a limit of course, and lifting the rear you make it come out first, balancing with the heavy front, again up to a limit and of course) 3. the stabilizer bars I usually leave it softer at the front and more rigidly at the back so the car points right at the beginning and in the middle of the curve (again it depends on the car and the person's driving, like if the driver is already sideways in the curve, the car setting changes for example : less front bar and less front camber 4.damper bound and rebound make the front damper harder, to speed up the steering response and correct the rear exit in the middle of the turn and at the end of the turn (from the outside it will look like drift) but don't mind because if you see any racing car race rear without aerodynamics, you will see a ball of controlled skidding (I recommend the old Brazilian stock, and preferably an onboard video of the racing Opala) the rear dampers, make it softer for the rear to be more predictable and well behaved in the curve when you're accelerating (up to a limit of not pushing the front, softer but not too much) 5.differential this guy's fit here is the difference between a good car and an uncontrollable one the throttle setting shouldn't be too much, if it doesn't push the front out of the corner when you're accelerating in medium and high corners, and in low speed corners it won't turn the car (seriously the car will go straight as if you weren't squeezing to turn), so this adjustment can't be too much (if it's too little it also pushes the car out of the curve) I usually make the deceleration higher, because I hold the front of the car in the middle of the curve when you're controlling the accelerator (press and release) The deceleration has a maximum value limit to put (you see sudden movements in the middle of the curve) and the initial blocking force must be set with care (not because the car has 1000hp that you will leave the blocking with 100%, then it becomes a cloud machine) the perfect set-up and a balanced car in the middle of the corner (not too much to the side, not too front of the type measuring the corner of the track) 6.springs I rarely change the spring loads (except if it's too hard), or when the car is fast and it's sinking too much with the high downforce 7. aerodynamics Here it is more complicated, because there are a car that has a very heavy front, then you put a giant aerofolio in the rear and the car stops turning when adjusting this part, put more downforce at the rear than at the front, if the car is too front, pass the downforce further forward and if it still doesn't work, reduce the rear donwforce or change the aerofolio for a smaller one or don't use one at the back ( although it helps the car to brake) until the car is stable and turning properly (this includes flatout turns) These tips are for most rwd cars(2007 mustang type,bmw series 3,nissan silvia),however you will find cars that strangely don't work(like a 427 mustang, which has a very heavy engine in the front, or a jaguar f-type that has a very light rear) It's already been extremly long only the rwd part (they're kind of boring to get it right) If you don't understand the translation or have any questions, just call the comments. Ps: mid-engined and rear-engined cars (Porsche type) are a completely different beast than a front-engined rwd

[@RatAvenue]

I respect the guy that was driving the F-150 in the last race lmao.

[@rumgum8935]

Yay a video I can relate to lol. Fwd A class is all I'm racing basically.. Honda for the win.

[@christiantaylor1495]

You can't decide

[@hiibuddiie]

It’s so awesome to see cars and tunes that aren’t all literal copy and paste of each other. FH4 had so many all too familiar cars in B, A and S1. It’s just satisfying to be able compete with anything and have a little fun. Been loving the Jaguar XJR-15 running a slightly less powerful RWD tune made by myself.

[@silaidey]

ive been absolutely loving running an A class KA-T 240sx. used semi slicks and it turns nicely while still having good power!

[@xNosVids]

hell yeah snagging the win the the type s making us rsx owners proud. i used the integra in b class today and smacked everyone

[@ChrisKim-eo9ku]

They honestly have to make a quick chat called "VTEC kicks in!"

[@DrMcMoist]

Maybe it is in the game already and I just haven't unlocked it but I feel they should add; "MONICA!!" Perfect for being pipped at the post.

[@martinpro4967]

Great driving, the big difference are your racing lines! Love it!

[@ronnenfelt5438]

There's something really satisfying about that

[@pfunkle]

Can tell you are playing on a nice rig because your checkpoints actually look like smoke and not pixel dust 👍😁

[@North_Of_Nowhere]

End of last race... Ford GT: 👀 Ford Fiesta: 🚙💨

[@XxidiotXxBosses]

I love using my CRX on B Class races. Slow on straights but barely have to brake on corners, so it makes up for it😄

[@rtyomkv]

5:26 I laughed so hard for some reason

[@poobrain3932]

About time FWD gets some redemption

[@joogonetime9328]

You’re savage with the keyboard skills

[@Zinul]

love the lil drifts at the end

[@christiantaylor1495]

They are powerslides

[@enjoythelegend]

Sadly it loses a lot of positions because of bad launch, so you have to fight through all the people ahead of you, with the amount of rammers in the game currently, it's very bad.

[@OmegaEGGY]

I guess that’s part of the fun and challenge with FWD cars. Infuriating, but rewarding nonetheless.

[@gymusen]

Using FWD cars in Online Races is fun, and challenging too!

[@CycDestined]

I miss my integra irl im glad it was in this game, immediately bought it.

[@SpeedDemonPowerage98]

That S2K at 5:26 was like REEEEEEEEE!!!!

[@Spacejoker404]

I really wish they would bring a possible launch control to the race starts. I hate swapping everything AWD, but the distance you're gonna lose at the start ist often annoying and hard to catch up

[@christiantaylor1495]

That's why I just play Forza Motorsport 7 I instead, or NFS Heat where RWD launches as good as awd.

[@gr4mas144]

I used FWD INTEGRA tooo I love this car

[@GianniAdduci]

Awesome driving man

[@epaminontas6972]

Still doesn't make sense that these cars spin through 3rd off the line like that. I'd get it if they only spun 1st and 2nd, but the fact that they tried to nerf fwd cars by doing that is annoying

[@Peachy232]

I think it's fun how other people hold onto their horn when they're about to lose too.

[@faustian.]

with the amount of rotation i like, i run rally tires on a class fwd. They end up as rally builds with some street optimization most of the time

[@whytho4358]

When you're drafting a rwd swing to the inside if they aren't going for a L style hard brake turn You'll stick to the curb and they'll be on the outside and you'll fly by them.

[@Guigui_06]

1:23 when you tell to your Mom you forgot your bag at home

[@REDLINEROADS]

The DC5 looks sick 😎

[@stevebuscemi3622]

Based front driver single handedly takes down the META awd cheese cars

[@NJDJ1986]

awesome compilation race

[@Crylhound]

Thanks for sharing (:

[@lagartopunkarra]

FWD in low classes are actually pretty good, they're easy to control and grippy.

[@rkade2005]

2:40 anxiety in its purest form

[@ernestochang1744]

Fwd cars with ABS off in this game is a nightmare

[@Andrew9565-AD]

Racing slicks are the most Ideal thing for fwd

[@rs3unos]

I always stick with the stock drive. I never swapped drives unless if I wanted to build a fun random car for non-competitive reasons.

[@danta3177]

My man playing with WASD? Madlad

[@kyonbrace5487]

Funny thing I just used the Acura in the C Class Reasonably Priced Cars Seasonal Championship Off-road suspension and transmission upgrades were enough to make a more heavier tuned car ragequit

[@CagierStorm]

I am honoured to be present in your video

[@lamarroyal8120]

What if I told you I suck using fwd,rwd and awd :D

[@P1L0T_]

that pretty much describes the majority of forza players lmao

[@lamarroyal8120]

@@P1L0T_ true but I have a category all to myself

[@tydshiin5783]

@@P1L0T_ burn lmao

[@P1L0T_]

@@tydshiin5783 lmao yeah

[@derricgreene]

You've changed my opinion about fwd entirely. I don't know if this is a blessing or a curse

[@Luna-Starfrost]

Slicks. :3

[@henriks5008]

I would like to see the Chaparral 2j as a DLC car for FH5. That would be awesome!

[@GarageHaruo]

Man now fwd cars are fun again like they were in fh3

[@oliverkromann1902]

getting second place to car that is almost 20 years newer seems fair to me

[@gr4mas144]

In "FWD" , F means Fast, don't be surprised

[@ChaserX90]

I have a fun build for the fk8 civic, fwd at A class. But it's on rally tyres so off the line I'm always dead last. It handles pretty well though so the positions are generally easy to make back

[@Jokero_YT]

Silly question, what video card do you use? I have the Nvidia RTX 2070 and I still get those memory leak issues, especially if I try to record using Nvidia Experience. 10:40 hilarious to see a Fiesta chasing down a GT40.

[@IsuckAtDriving]

RTX 3080. I used to have memory leak as well before the patch.

[@LeoSengerRyanCooper]

5:23 MONICAAAAAAAA

[@xXxtroublebehindxXx]

You should try no hud i want to see what it looks like when a good racer is doing it

[@a-lexanderluthor1334]

I'm a brand new forza player and the class X cars are way too much for me I love the class A and common cars some drive deceptively smooth I'm just learning to drive at a steady pace and not accelerate into tight corners 🤣

[@cataldinho]

I never thought of the Focus being a good performance car, was I deceiving myself

[@beterbarker]

That's a Fiesta ST

[@pogtuber5146]

Love the race but god damn does that Integra sound awful like a bunch of little pissed off bees

[@SaveGeneralsLCD]

Oh your driving skill are amazing !! Show me your Race S1-Class with your FWD Car please.

[@CarlosRoberto-on7vk]

Honda POWAAARRR 🤣

[@rokachuuni5250]

as long there are no one psh u out.. they tend to play with a bad brakes after all.. ;->

[@OofedOofer]

Everytime I see that outro it hurts me mentally and physically

[@Spherz]

Ok so I’ve been getting a lot of conflicting information, racing slicks have the same lateral Gs as semi slick tires, but do they actually help cornering?

[@KikuraKun]

It helps, even if it is a small improvement

[@Deadsphere]

I think it's more on the launches that they help

[@Spherz]

@@KikuraKun problem is with RWD cars it costs 15 PI and you could do so much more to help cornering and make it good for all seasons rather than just one

[@IsuckAtDriving]

It's a bug. If you do a quick freeroam drive it is quite clear they have better handling. It is also widely used by the drift community because slick tires drift better than drift tires in the game.

[@christiantaylor1495]

@@IsuckAtDriving "they" what has better handling? "it's" used by the drift community?

[@thesis4349]

We need the DC5 Type R.

[@Zeronightmarefox]

Deploy smoke screen! Deploy! Deploy! Deploy!

[@genericexcuse4737]

They should add fwd swaps to some cars where it would fit.

[@kexcz8276]

Nice one, but how do you know, when it will be dry or wet during each race? Its impossible to guess, right?

[@vestrahorn]

If you suck at driving, then I vacuum at driving

[@krzysiekskadanek1340]

I wait for Locked Tune option for Online Racing. When we can race with standard cars only .

[@DanielMartinez-qu3qj]

are the best bro

[@comet7676]

Swing the ass end out more. Gassing it straightens it out, that’s what makes it superior bruh. RWD + AWD = Corner entry, FWD = Corner *exit*

[@bahubali-]

I am very surprised not to see a single bone shaker, also i have decided to spam bone shaker in A class road and dirt until it gets banned

[@TyronStDenis]

That's the Sound of the Microsoft Windows Startup Sound from the 1990's That's the Sound that i Here it's the Ones that you Had a Microsoft Windows Desk -Top Computer or a Lab-Top that's the Sound that we Here.

[@MCPunk55]

Well at least two decent cars won the first and last races.

[@illuzn_XCL]

Good racing 😅

[@fafnirymd]

question, can mustang hoonicorn used in any race or its just a car to use for drifting..if yes can share the tune?

[@richardendresz161]

Everybody gangsta until they get taken over by a dude driving an overpriced Honda Accord on the final straight

[@MRboss11]

My g lost to a car older than time itself

[@gsacelm7753]

Was that Integra paint scheme the one in Wangan Midnight? (R Killer)

[@J-STX5469]

Hey Grandma, would it still be recommended to use semi-slick tires if you want to use FWD in A-Class for all racing conditions (except for snow of course)?

[@IsuckAtDriving]

Depends on the car. Most FWD don't have enough handling using semi-slicks, thats why they need slicks. Some FWDs have way too much handling that having semi-slicks/rallies is the sweet spot.

[@J-STX5469]

@@IsuckAtDriving Got it, thanks.

[@StressfulMusicOfficial]

They need to stop being cowards and give us the bug eye WRX (2003 i think was the last year in the states for it). I'm on that AWD but I might mess with FWD. I just like tricking out the cheap cars. Anything I try to trick out I don't care for on looks or top speed/acceleration I just gift to new players to give them an easy start in case they need it. Soon as I had my car tuned to s1 it was easy as cake to compete up to expert level, then... ai like 'rammmmm fessssstt' lol. Now I'm happily losing on multiplayer races wondering how tf they use to going THAT fast through the track. Nice to have a solid racing platform on PC like that, but so many glitches and lack of customizations (visually speaking) have me still searching. I want that NFS Underground energy on visuals with this platform of tuning and layout.

[@ryamole]

Is the tire smoke that is constantly obscuring view a bug? I noticed the other day on my screen I wasn't letting any tire smoke off, but on my friends screen, they were getting dusted by my tire smoke..

[@IsuckAtDriving]

Its a bug yeah.

[@ytaky]

i keep getting dirt/jungle races in online, where can i find these asphat only sprints/ circuits against other players? Thx

[@nicermx7391]

yes someone shows fwd is epic for once

[@miikatenkula6356]

Can you make a video for the seasonal speed zone?

[@magnum7068]

RIP Integra

[@cagancesim2153]

shingo is a developer at Playground Games I guess :)))

[@Litassa]

Nah, otherwise there will be EG hatch in the game

[@cyanprince00]

Coool vibrations..

[@borninpennsylvania3908]

how come you get to race in whichever classes you want whenever i try playing online i only ever get cross county

[@vladimirm251]

Checkout Megane R.S 2018 Using in A since FH4, very underrated car with big EU 1.8 balls

[@konradoo10]

Can you share the code?

[@ZiiT3k]

ecoboost powerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[@BrunoHenrique-gi1wd]

clio r26r is fun too

[@lucaguida4286]

Was that a bone shaker? Is the bone shaker in this game? Is it still as boring and op as in fh4?

[@Litassa]

Sadly, there's no ranked races in Horizon 5 yet :/

[@kwoknimyi1480]

Actually i think rwd cars in fh5 better than awd cars on handling now

[@sonic_exe2312]

4:39 you look back and see demon 1st time: 👀 2nd time: 👀💦

[@acceleratefx5966]

Horizon open is so much better than team racing in fh4