Forza Horizon 5 - Jaguar XJ220S TWR Is Almost a Pay 2 Win Car (S1-Class)

[@IsuckAtDriving]

The 2nd Jaguar being OP in FH5. What's with Jaguars being crazy good in FH5?

[@NatVirgo]

Like your mom

[@IsuckAtDriving]

Cringe.

[@BrakeCheckGaming]

@@NatVirgo YouSuckAtJoking... And you really are, without any sarcasm.. 👍

[@JarJarBinkz68]

@@NatVirgo yo mama's a cougar not a JAAAAAAAAAAAAGGG !!!!!

[@afaxmachine5045]

Well jaguars are the best big cat.

[@LRODGT_77]

10:46 I wish a had the same level of respect from the other drivers in my lobbies.

[@zjsz4954]

It’s crazy how consistently you absolutely nail the braking and power zones lap after lap

[@64fairlane305]

he`s on autobraking+steering

[@harrymitchell9519]

@@64fairlane305 no they're not, if they used auto braking they'd be braking in sync with the driving line but you can clearly see that's not what's happening. Same goes for the steering.

[@ideologicduck]

@@harrymitchell9519 definitely auto 🤣🤣

[@Peachy232]

@@ideologicduck you're just baiting for attention. Stop.

[@jouunoo9365]

Some of these snowflakes are definitely new to Isad's channel

[@BrakeCheckGaming]

Jesus! How good of a Jaguar?! I was not expected that at all. Incredible smooth with great cornering ability and huuuge acceleration power! Thank you for sharing this one with us and especially, congrats for this satisfying video! Great driving skills buddy💥👍

[@jouunoo9365]

I even prefer the xjr-15 on s2 than the sesto elemento fe

[@kotprohorov]

It's extremely balanced car for S1. Tbf it is 4 meter long monster it shouldn't have so much handling. I'm waiting for a video on a new fxx k evo for S2 curcuits and donkervoort for S1 curcuits.

[@64fairlane305]

4 meter long monster? Funny

[@Spherz]

The Donkervoort currently has world record on S1 horizon Mexico Circuit, it is better than the XJR15 there somehow

[@elongatedpikachu4029]

@@Spherz guessing quick launch and decent speed. Same thing with Caterham except Voort has way better handling.

[@ethanlenning]

@@64fairlane305 that was my nickname in high school

[@DasSchattentier]

Donkervoort is insane for s1 dirt, even outcorners that that thing of that shitty boneshaker 🤮

[@Mantebb]

It's nice to see a car that is not AWD is actually pretty good in online racing now

[@derrickdepalma4373]

check out the diablo gtr! its nutty in rwd in S1

[@andreis3416]

@@derrickdepalma4373 with dirt tyres and weight reduction, that shit just dives into corners like nothing

[@litreocola6447]

@@andreis3416 awesome to see such unorthodox builds being competitive lol

[@snowshoe3274]

Yeah they buffed FWD and RWD in FH5 big time. I don’t have any AWD swapped cars and I have no problem getting podiums in Horizon Open

[@masterwhopper414]

2005 Ford GT is very nice for S1

[@SumoPoweredAlanLi]

Won an unbeatable race days ago with handling focused customization. This thing is nuts.

[@vaulthunterfromterra4053]

The retro Jags have to be fast in order to make up for the rest of them being sh*t

[@Toxic2T]

LOL

[@en3myspott3d54]

Thank god you censored "shit" now this comment is family friendly

[@ifw_Kyle]

Everybody meet, the only Grandma to drive a supercar at 160 mph while still looking cool at it.

[@istvanlorinczi2817]

Imagine what would've happened if the FXX K Evo could get down to S1

[@joshbacon8241]

That would definitely be proper pay-to-win. But luckily, it can’t.

[@sharathvasudev]

@@joshbacon8241 fxxk e can be beaten in se using ccgt. I get them always

[@smaIec]

It dosent matter anymore if a car is op or not without ranked races.

[@Werkvuur]

Cry some more

[@joshbacon8241]

Why did they remove the ranked races for Horizon 5?

[@gumaboss1426]

@@joshbacon8241 Cuz of toxicity apparently..

[@rennworks-actual]

@@Werkvuur "cry some more" they said, tears streaming down their face as they try to block out the memories of their dad beating them

[@floofyasuka]

I had mine upgraded and even without a tune it's still pretty good

[@someguy8427]

I like how this thing was such a boat in fh2 and now it's not that.

[@paulcalvert2099]

You and bow in the Jags was fantastic respectful racing.

[@heybro6302]

This is the best ive seen you drive any car in fh5 lol.

[@glub__blub]

Your ek9 tune is amazing I’ve gotten to 326 on the hilltop descent in rivals using it and I still feel like I have a lot of time I can scrub

[@Jakee2121]

love how he's always looking back, even though there is nothing to look back to

[@charlespanache7047]

Except the person he just passed, who is very likely to try and ram.

[@Shylo2017]

The good racers who are good at racing fair and are skilled in PGG & Eliminator ALWAYS look back, you should try it, rammer boy

[@Moonayyy]

@@charlespanache7047 If you are talking about the person he passed in the first race, then lol, they cut across ISAD nose and messed them self up that way

[@charlespanache7047]

@@Moonayyy I'm referring to "always looking back" as a defensive tactic (imo). Not any specific moment.

[@joshbacon8241]

Imagine how bad the ‘almost pay-to-win’ situation will be when the game reaches End of Life status in 2025, when the game and all the DLC is no longer available for purchase…

[@afilleduptaco]

I doubt people will be playing it by then. A new forza game will probably preoccupy people’s attention.

[@sethbringsdeath1790]

@@afilleduptaco nah he’s basically describing the current state of Horizon 3

[@afilleduptaco]

@@sethbringsdeath1790 who tf plays Horizon 3 multiplayer now?

[@Element0145]

More foggy races online ? Foggy Baja sprint races on the mountain or through jungle areas . But that race gave me midnight club vibes

[@teertaa]

08:00 just curious but, do you have any plan to try focus rs on s1 or a class? That focus seems fast

[@stevenrussell9501]

Great driving, nice to see a lobby that just wants to drive and not ram like most of the ones I get 🤣

[@xFollow117x]

I saw some them destroy S1 lobbies especially in street races, i confirm that this car is dope

[@Shockwave724]

Hi mom ! no seriously i didn't know he was in my game im so mad i try a shitty tune i made with this vulcan on s1 (drag weels) love you i was so surprise when i watched this video xD I said "lol this dumb try the vulcan in s1 like me .... wait the dumb is me with my mate xeelog ! xD

[@soyum7322]

The horn was the best 🤣

[@hilaireb795]

Damn Grandma, now the jig is up! 😭🤣

[@mecca6801]

That's a beast of a beauty

[@Caracatungas]

Me: * Pauses Forza Horizon 5 to take a break to watch KZbin * Also Me: * Watches people play Forza Horizon 5 on KZbin *

[@harrymitchell9519]

Yeah, that sounds like me too.

[@caiopaula298]

Nalak tune is Slick Grandma tune is semi slick? Ok?

[@moparornocar8715]

Your KZbin name is IsuckAtDriving but you have clean races. Like you're actually really good. my Forza driving is never that clean😂

[@TheRealChangeOfPace]

It's amazing to see when 1/3 of the lobby is the same OP car (though in this case seemingly driven by potatoes). It makes me think: When is PGG gonna ban the Boneshaker already? 😂

[@XxWarmancxX]

Banning a car from being used online is basically saying it doesn't exist anymore. Properly nerf it by making its perf rating for higher than it currently is for the meta breaking tunes, (as in A class tunes get pushed into S class etc)

[@alb.88]

No joke half the lobby was filled with boneshakers in my game while i was trying out a personal tune, i was best of the rest lmao

[@litreocola6447]

People argue that nerfing certain cars or banning them is pointless since you should just find a better one, like wtf? Some cars are just better in every way and by like 2 or 3 seconds. I get that strong cars are necessary, however cars being 2-3 seconds faster than the average build is not what the devs intended for

[@nightdrvavenger2087]

@@XxWarmancxX they simply cant nerf cars, the pi system is based on a ai running the car on the track in the background, so if they change the ai to change the pi of one car they change it for every car .. and even if it would brought balanced to the PI system they would have to change all the cars from the events and showcases in the game cars to match the perf of the cars .. its just to much work

[@MJTbreww]

@@nightdrvavenger2087 Is that really how it's calculated?? Surely not it sounds ridiculous lol, I thought it was an algorithm that adds up all a cars stats hence how it "works" with the tuning system.

[@caiopaula298]

Grandma tune is Slick tires?

[@racingagent]

It's okay, neither so good like EP9 nor so bad like zenvo TS1, as the streets in FH5 have more curve and edges in very short distance! Good race!

[@vedantkothari215]

What happened in the last race? It ended in just 2 laps😦

[@rnorgz]

I noticed that too

[@lycosa1531]

I'm sure he did 3 laps, but since he got the lead halfway through the 2nd there wasn't anything more to show as far as competition. Edited out the 3rd lap so it'd skip to the finish

[@caiopaula298]

Your tune is Slick tires?

[@themightiestofbooshes9443]

did you try out the FXXK Evo? it's not particularly quick for being S2 998 or if you upgrade it with AWD into X 999 and that's just compared to a fully upgraded M-B CLK GTR

[@Chris_Allen199]

Can you turn the tyre wear on, I'm interested in how much the wear is.

[@mendozerms]

What an absolute beauty of a car!!!

[@kylecope4412]

That thing is insane. It's as if you had traction control on but you don't... It just had that much traction...

[@KTPsama]

13:38 said 2/3 round. or did he just cut?

[@airylide4538]

how the last race ends after 2 laps xD 13:35

[@anthonypovoa3257]

the car that came in second looked like a ship in star wars coming out of light speed at the finish line

[@elduende9510]

man i sure love driving against the GT' 05, fxx and this too :D. Or the boneshaker, ferarri challenger stradale and daytona

[@AvgPlayaHata]

That Ford GT spam is nauseating

[@Liu60330]

13:38 Why the hell this race finish with only 2 laps?

[@weeyum99]

he cut out the last lap since nothing interesting happened I suppose

[@julenesmith8824]

One fact I would like to point out to the driver of the Ford gt if you mange to hold the line instead of drifting around the corners you actually go around the corners faster

[@KJCurtis6595]

Or if he decided to drift not only does he corner slower but he also gets to enjoy doing what he wants

[@rennworks-actual]

@@KJCurtis6595 he's obviously not enjoying doing whatever he wants because if he was he wouldn't be a meta slave in a ford gt

[@virys96]

I've been slaying bone shakers in A class with a rwd XJ13, so I think the XJ220S is the 3rd OP one.

[@froilanaguilar7202]

literally got this car off a wheel spin yesterday and immediately fell in love , such a good car

[@istvanlorinczi2817]

This is the Car Pass version, I doubt it's in the wheelspins

[@froilanaguilar7202]

@@istvanlorinczi2817 wow, they really hate when they have different versions of the same car

[@MsMisha]

I mean they're different cars.

[@enhancedpotato4150]

You should try the Zenvo TS1 in rally, its really fast for me and my tune isn’t even the best.

[@gothappearance]

I'd like to suggest you play Honda NSX in A class on RWD. I play on keyboard too and if you lower the differential setting to around 13-15% on accel and 18-20% on decel, it will drive really good and stable like it's AWD car (besides tracks with only sharp corners ofc).

[@DeadPool_StaS]

would be cool to change setups for each track. 1 for handling and 1 for top speed.

[@sharathvasudev]

would be cool just to change cars for each track. horses for courses

[@jacmarc90]

Dumb question, why are you censored what type of tire, suspention ecc. the tunes have? I mean, you post the share code for tunes, so in like what, 5 seconds, we can se the censored specs, so i simply don't understand why censore it.

[@satriobeekrazy949]

For a competition reason

[@alvaz]

Steering wheel ? Pedals ? Shifter ?

[@xrafa.113]

What are your driving settings?

[@delroynathan7794]

I have to try this! Ty

[@Zeronightmarefox]

Seriously, every race you're 2nd and the 1st drops the ball. And it happens way too often too.

[@MElmesy]

Those are the just the ones he decides to upload. Most of his races he probably just takes the lead from the start and aren't very entertaining.

[@dontworry7986]

A lot of people can’t handle the pressure lol

[@KasumiFox]

Well, everyone makes mistakes. But this guy is so consistent that he can capitalize in almost any mistakes ppl make.

[@Amalia19]

If you play online regularly you'll eventually bump into him, he doesnt just upload his good races, all his races are good because he's very consistent. I can say this because i bumped into him several times and he claimed 1st place from 3 out of 5 races, while the rest are podiums. He might be not the fastest, but he makes the least mistake because his strategy is to be safe and put as much pressure to the racer in front of him until they make a blunder, then pull away from the rest of the pack.

[@CalculatedRiskAK]

@@Amalia19 This is exactly how races are won. Most people can't withstand pressure of someone so they'll crack quite easily. As long as you don't make mistakes, you can win.

[@nero1995]

Nalak28's been making justice for purist drivers ngl. But i got a question, why hide the suspension, tyres and transmission when showing the tunes?

[@christmas_doggo5537]

I've always wondered why he does that

[@peterpan1813]

Na

[@sebastianm7451]

Do you have esp and tracking on or off?

[@tristanblikman]

1:36 rip mirror

[@abilflorida]

boi that fog is thicc

[@zjsz4954]

First race: how did that guy even get out front of he doesn’t know how to brake?

[@IoniksFR]

What’s with the old ford gt being everywhere, is it that good?

[@IsuckAtDriving]

It is meta.

[@damm1t_b0bby]

buttery racing lines

[@doniyoryusupov5450]

anyone tell me pls, are servers of FH5 in steam and Microsoft same or they are diverse? i wanna buy FH5 from steam

[@pistolenbob9876]

how do you throttle control on keyboard?

[@CosmorphicHero]

the gran turismo ford GT :o

[@North_Of_Nowhere]

I'm yet to see another person use it online, i find im the only one, maybe because the best builds for it keep it RWD and all the "AWD only" racers are put off by it?

[@harrymitchell9519]

I mostly use RWD cars now, the Lexus LFA and Ferrari 488 GTB are also really good rwd cars for s1, the LFA Can have 800+ horsepower when it's RWD and it still corners decently.

[@techstuff6551]

Y’all need to rally the f50 Ferrari for s1. It sounds cursed but the mf literally does not slide off into the abyss it’s not just goofy hp with 0 handling and it’s quick I like it. The 2014 911 turbo s too rally super cars are amazing this year

[@daz-ph8wv]

Could you do a tutorial on tuning? I’d like to see your methods of tuning, I started to tinker with it some but I’m still unsure if whether or not my tunes are making me quicker

[@akshayy_xd]

There's some really good ones on KZbin already, I don't think this guy focuses on his own tunes much

[@onboardskater]

its not the car bro, you are good af!!!

[@icebox9939]

Can u show ur video settings? Thanks

[@IsuckAtDriving]

All max graphic settings.

[@wasiligorbacov7784]

Why do you even hide suspension, tire and drivetrain? Are those top secret I don't understand😄

[@kijekuyo9494]

Hmmm. I have my upgraded Nissan GTR Black Edition at S: 7.9, H: 8.0, A: 10, L: 10, B: 9.4 at S1, all of which are higher than the Jag in this video, except for Speed. Are the stats so meaningless? Can the Jag be tuned to overcome that gap--assuming the Nissan is also optimally tuned? I have a Jaguar XK220, which I picked up a auction for 300,000 CR. I've been thinking about giving it a try, and that's why I watched this video. It'd be great if it's superior to the GTR. I haven't tinkered with it yet. I'll see what I can do with it this evening.

[@harrymitchell9519]

If you're talking about the regular xj220 I wouldn't bother, the barn find jag is OP though.

[@IsuckAtDriving]

Stats are absolutely meaningless in this game. Example, changing into a 7 speed transmission magically gives the car tons of handling stats (when in reality, it doesn't change the handling). Sadly no, the Nissan GT-R is still very heavy after weight reduction and the game favors lightweight cars like this Jag.

[@kijekuyo9494]

@@IsuckAtDriving The problem is, then, how can I know if I'm improving my car as I'm upgrading it? If the stats aren't giving me accurate feedback, what can I use for a guide?

[@kijekuyo9494]

@@harrymitchell9519 I thought the barn find (from FH4) was the regular XJ220.

[@IsuckAtDriving]

@@kijekuyo9494 Horsepower and weight is a good indicator. Try get as much HP and as light as possible.

[@youpi403]

one full lap of you first is not boring you know?

[@henry3376]

Damn I still suck at tuning, my version is a lot harder to control :/

[@Rem_NL]

he makes it look easier than it is though

[@devilxkizr1593]

Hey man it's ok we all had our times when we sucked at tuning. anyways to solve your controlling issue u might need to check your dif or suspension and then tired pressure and maybe alignment if all else fails

[@devilxkizr1593]

Oh and aero

[@rennworks-actual]

yay another high power to weight ratio car being op isn't online racing so fun, so many cars but only 5% are viable

[@sharathvasudev]

exactly I only need 11 cars for all. which includes 1 skill points. 1 for drift.

[@timothyschumock2272]

YUUUUUUUUPPPP

[@Kaylos29]

My initial impressions are favorable, but right now I would still put the Diablo GTR and Elise GT1 drift tire builds ahead of it for RWD allrounders. I have an aero Jag XJR (non power build) build that is better too.

[@DerRusher]

if the merceded in the first race didnt fail every 2nd cornerm he would have been faster...

[@RCGangstaZ]

I don't race other ppl(bcz I like driving with "stock" spec, no awd swap or ugly aero kit) so p2w or nope I don't care 😂, I only see a cool car with enjoyable handling 👀

[@Reslivo]

Did you leave out a lap in the last race? It ended on 2/3.

[@ToyotaCorolla-qs7ml]

Not sure, good spot. Just guessing it was either uneventful lap or just an editing mistake

[@bricjap]

You should teach us how to play drive like that

[@kamilares8189]

true.

[@txybrxw]

forza noob here: at the start of the race why does he redline for a bit before shifting up?

[@onyxium1]

Get the most out of 1st gear so 2nd starts at higher rpms (in turn, better acceleration)

[@masterwhopper414]

With RWD cars, you'll be fighting for traction before actually accelerating. You need to get grip first before shifting

[@txybrxw]

@@onyxium1 that makes sense thanks:) but how do you keep control when the car starts sliding

[@onyxium1]

@@txybrxw let off the throttle

[@onyxium1]

once the car comes back under control you can throttle

[@michigantoga]

That other Jag is OP too

[@JumanjiG]

FXXK Evo vid pls :)

[@KasumiFox]

Wtf happened hahah your last race ended in 2 laps or it was an edition trick? awesome content as always. really inspiring

[@Rassul_Kurmanov]

what your pc specs?

[@IsuckAtDriving]

Windows 10, Intel i5-11400, RTX 3080 , 32gb Ram.

[@Rassul_Kurmanov]

@@IsuckAtDriving OMG, THANK YOU

[@caiopaula298]

Is RWD?

[@masterwhopper414]

Yes

[@caiopaula298]

@@masterwhopper414 thanks, bro

[@ryanharrison400]

Not sure if it's good enough to make up for the 2/3 seconds you lose at the start of the race

[@masterwhopper414]

The more corners and curves, the less you have to worry about a bad start

[@ryanharrison400]

@@masterwhopper414 I hear that but let me make this simple is it two to three seconds faster than the FXX

[@masterwhopper414]

@@ryanharrison400 likely not. You're banking on driver skills at that point

[@MaskofPoesy]

Nah, the Jag is just that good fam. Trust me.

[@gr4mas144]

There's a many many meta slaves .

[@ReVDeatH]

They are fast like a jaguar Get it? Haha...ha, why you guys aren't laughing?

[@amosagapao6347]

this is why i love my XJ220S.

[@christk1847]

With your driving, every car is almost a pay 2 win car

[@crazycjk]

ISAD, do you play with any driver assists? I just got FH5 (my first forza title) and I enjoy racing games so turned all the driver aids off, but some cars with ABS turned off feel impossible to brake in?

[@IsuckAtDriving]

I turned most assist off except ABS. ABS off in this game requires some getting used to.

[@satriobeekrazy949]

I can't afford DLC cars, but I enjoyed watching this

[@HerpilOG]

How do you get it

[@satriobeekrazy949]

It's DLC cars, that's why he said *pay-to-win* car

[@HerpilOG]

@@satriobeekrazy949 oh sweet I got the pass let’s go

[@boduke9428]

I think a better channel name would be "I'll out brake the sh*t out of you going in and drive the f*ck away going out". I always feel like I'm finna drive this smooth starting out, 2 sharp turns later I'm bouncing off a wall sliding back across completely outta control...

[@sotlymn]

2:17 - Brian O'Conner - Huh, too wide !!

[@ticreut2913]

I use the Lotus Elise GT1 with your tune in online race and in race with a lot of turn I overtake everyone. There where bad as well, because they ram everyone so they lose for that.