Iswaran pleads guilty: What happened? What next? | To The Point

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The Straits Times

The Straits Times

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@davidgoh681
@davidgoh681 Ай бұрын
So Malaysia’s case shows they are more strict than our AGC in the way they prosecute ministers under section 165 as the penalty advanced by Singapore’s AGC is rather low compared to Malaysia’s and yet we often pride ourselves for taking such things seriously
@megantan89
@megantan89 Ай бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@oop1944
@oop1944 Ай бұрын
Different strokes for different folks.
@JojoJoget
@JojoJoget Ай бұрын
We legalize corruption, that’s the difference
@segarjun
@segarjun Ай бұрын
Hi Straits Times, any particular reason why Ong Beng Seng and Lum are addressed as Mr (Mister) as a salutation? And Mr Iswaran, is addressed as Iswaran ? Is this legal lingo for someone who is charged in court?
@mr.g702
@mr.g702 Ай бұрын
This is a noteworthy observation. It appears evident that the influence of the PAP extends into SPH, with editors operating under political directives, thereby favoring associates of their superiors. Such bias has been a pervasive issue since the era of LKY.
@hengbin2974
@hengbin2974 Ай бұрын
Good observation
@Utube1024
@Utube1024 Ай бұрын
The difference is one party giving, the other takes.
@Utube1024
@Utube1024 Ай бұрын
Any thing less than 7 years jail term is a mockery of the Law.
@hengbin2974
@hengbin2974 Ай бұрын
What's YOUR basis.?.........that jail term is more appropriate in the case of PS. Dun suka suka rant.
@Utube1024
@Utube1024 Ай бұрын
@@hengbin2974 How about jail term equivalent to the numbers of years serving as ministers ? Since he knew is against the law yet he still did it.
@hengbin2974
@hengbin2974 Ай бұрын
@@Utube1024 Sorry lah, I dun think under the LAW - statuette or common law - there is such practice in the sentencing. Actually I hv more to say, but I think I'll leave the matter to Davinder & the Dy AG prosecuting the case & of course Vinvent Hoong.
@hengbin2974
@hengbin2974 Ай бұрын
@@Utube1024 By YOUR suggestion, PS should be sentenced, if found guilty, to jail of 13 yrs or so since PS became an MP since 2011!!!
@Utube1024
@Utube1024 Ай бұрын
@@hengbin2974 MP only take allowance not subject to tax. But cabinet minister enjoy high salary and bonuses so is fair to sentence them equivalent to their years of service.
@faisuherman
@faisuherman Ай бұрын
his gonna enjoy jail time short time n then leave the country n may retire in aus
@ExperienceSingapore
@ExperienceSingapore Ай бұрын
Spoil market
@manchu-qu9mw
@manchu-qu9mw Ай бұрын
That is mockery of justice. Probe deeper and there should be much more. Feel sore for an old man got fined for littering. Three dollars hundred flat summon, no warning, no chance. Hurting sore.
@huangzb8060
@huangzb8060 Ай бұрын
Sin-city has plenty of such greedy politicians who are drawing salaries hundreds times more than ordinary folks yet they are still not satisfied and desired more to gratifying themselves and families.
@mr.g702
@mr.g702 Ай бұрын
Sin City is also home to numerous business figures with close ties to politicians, such as OBS and the Lee family. This raises the question: has OBS ever given any gifts to the Lees? For instance, consider the significant discounts quietly offered on several high-floor units at Scotts 28 to LKY and his family. It is difficult not to question the integrity of politicians in such situations. They always have a reason or a convincing story to justify and cover-up.
@angelatakano6072
@angelatakano6072 Ай бұрын
Remember what the Bible says: “don’t make burning wood of the fallen tree”.
@hgyag5366
@hgyag5366 Ай бұрын
So creative. As a layman we know that it is not right to "offer" gifts , money, etc to public servant. Thinkers know.
@mr.g702
@mr.g702 Ай бұрын
It remains to be seen whether the criminal justice system is, in fact, administered under a two-tier structure influenced by the incumbent. OBS is buddies with the Lee family.
@ysngngys7753
@ysngngys7753 Ай бұрын
Sorry. Many do not. So let's not anyhow give or gift them...
@sgfuture7114
@sgfuture7114 Ай бұрын
Singapore Law is too lenient... He should be jailed at least 10 years... A Shame to our nation....
@yiaplengwee5909
@yiaplengwee5909 Ай бұрын
Yes, should be many years but guess what, maybe not even 10 weeks when sentence is out.....
@sgfuture7114
@sgfuture7114 Ай бұрын
@@yiaplengwee5909 Most probably just a stern warning and a fine...
@steventay5834
@steventay5834 Ай бұрын
sgfuture7114 Will go to jail lah
@mr.g702
@mr.g702 Ай бұрын
Many have asked a BIG question: Have the Lees ever received favour or gifts from OBS in one way or another? They are very close to OBS, with OBS accompanying LKY to some appts too. We can start from the Scotts 28 saga, but everyone believed the tale LKY told and got away looking innocent. 😅
@TerenceTHNg
@TerenceTHNg Ай бұрын
A deterrent sentence is appropriate to send a message to Public servants
@civilpse5458
@civilpse5458 Ай бұрын
Bargain between the defence and the prosecution is just a mockery of Justice. For the common man, it's never possible. Only the powerful and rich would benefit. Justice is not equal.
@elto888
@elto888 Ай бұрын
To simplify the gifting parameter, $50 (read somewhere for cs) just like back in banks it was $100 & below. What's more to prove that corruption charges be dropped since its so clear. Restitution will only be an alleviating factor but certainly not to dispel the crime(s) committed. The other charges, as mentioned will be taken into consideration. This being a high profile case involving a sizable amount over an extended tenure must and should be treated with the maximum punishable sentence to warrant a marker - 7yrs.
@Jwe5t74
@Jwe5t74 Ай бұрын
Will gahment claw back all the monies paid to him as law minister after being suspended....?
@farhanMuhammed-w3q
@farhanMuhammed-w3q Ай бұрын
I thought he say he's gonna fight hard to clear his name so fast plead guilty liao ah LMAO. Totally anti-climax sia
@koosmangat
@koosmangat Ай бұрын
How come no live telecast of interrogation like pritam singh? Corruption is bigger crime isn’t it?
@ongtayjoojames-ow1bs
@ongtayjoojames-ow1bs Ай бұрын
Was he the only minister corrupted...???!!!🙄😬🤔
@2bystander2
@2bystander2 Ай бұрын
wld jail time include all these time waiting for trial? if so, iswaran may not serve any time at all😢
@bruh4032
@bruh4032 Ай бұрын
They minus the time spent in remand
@parryyeo7766
@parryyeo7766 Ай бұрын
Since their salary is peg against the highest earners. Their jail sentence should be benchmark against their salary.. base on singapore ave salary.. a minister should serve a sentence benchmark against the ave salary. Assuming he makes 1mil..and the ave singaporean gets 50000. His sentence should be multipled by 20 times
@musarainbow396
@musarainbow396 Ай бұрын
Must go for life sentence because if this guy in china already go dead sentence.
@AlphaSorceror
@AlphaSorceror Ай бұрын
What he received is actually a pittance. It’s true that politicians in high positions can’t afford to have friends-or are better off without them-because having friends could lead to serious consequences, even imprisonment.
@hengbin2974
@hengbin2974 Ай бұрын
Iswaran does NOT deserve a jail term, even as his own counsel suggested 7 to 8 weeks. Instead he should be fined $35k as in the case of Raeesha Khan of the wayang party. I read report that Vincent Hoong mentioned the case of a chief minister in Malaysia...............to me it only shows how deficient in his thinking as he can't distinguish Iswaran case from that of the cm. Declaration: I do NOT know Iswaran nor communicated separately with him...............I'd included him in my email cc previously when he was still a Minister in line with emailing all other MPs, except those from the wayang party.
@gha9543
@gha9543 Ай бұрын
Guilty of violating parliamentary code of conduct and ethics. The law applies when there is a loss of trust and confidence in political authority to respect the rules and code of conduct.
@hengbin2974
@hengbin2974 Ай бұрын
@@gha9543 But Iswaran is NOT charged with his alleged breach of parliamentary code of conduct and ethics.
@gha9543
@gha9543 Ай бұрын
@@hengbin2974 He is charged with accepting gifts and receiving favours from his clients while in public service and while he was appointed as Minister for Transport. A civil suit against a ex minister of parliament.
@hengbin2974
@hengbin2974 Ай бұрын
@@gha9543 From media reports, the corruption charges under the PCA were amended to the s65 PC offences ...........plus 30 charges taken into consideration................so he is NOT guilty of being corrupt........@ least that's my understanding.
@hengbin2974
@hengbin2974 Ай бұрын
@@gha9543 From what I understand Iswaran is being charged under s65 of the PC..........I dun hv the time to peruse the PC on this matter.........however I feel that Vincent Hoong FAILED to distinguish the alleged corruption of a M'sian CM. As I've said & which U can read my response to another commenter, U might like to ponder the PREVENTABLE DEATHS of thousands Plus other -ve consequences PLUS tens if not hundreds of BILLIONs of losses. I'm more than keen on presenting my views to an Independent Commission of Inquiry into our justice system or whatever faults currently in place.
@anghockseng5686
@anghockseng5686 Ай бұрын
I think he has go To 4 to 5 mth jail He lucky he has a good Lawyer mr singh Who can ask the prosecuter to drop The corruption May be legal fee Will be at least $250,000
@yamhweeyeo3089
@yamhweeyeo3089 Ай бұрын
Let us get this clear: this is Singapore where the majority of the people still believe the court is incorruptible. As far as individual wrongdoers are concerned, you are OUT once you have made a crooked decision. We are no longer interested in you. Period.
@ysngngys7753
@ysngngys7753 Ай бұрын
Erm...we dun drag us in with your "we". Period.
@mikesiow1279
@mikesiow1279 Ай бұрын
If the sentence is too short, it does not reflect the severity of the crime, a Minister of Singapore, receiving the highest pay in the world, which the government claimed would deter corruption, but in actual fact this case has shown us, this approach obviously does not work! Minister while receiving the most ridiculously high pay is still subjectable to corruption! We have also another Minister that keep talking about him making more in the private sector, does it mean he crave for more money, will he end up being corrupt as well?
@CalvinK-the_old_fogey
@CalvinK-the_old_fogey Ай бұрын
What’s next for Iswaran? Time passes quickly and soon he will be a free man to enjoy life’s pleasure and family time. I think he will be happier and black hair will reappear. Just be careful of weight gain 😂
@mr.g702
@mr.g702 Ай бұрын
Many have asked a BIG question: Have the Lees ever received favour or gifts from OBS in one way or another? We can start from the Scotts 28 saga, but everyone believed the tale LKY told and got away looking innocent. 😅
@CalvinK-the_old_fogey
@CalvinK-the_old_fogey Ай бұрын
@@mr.g702 you can retell the HPL saga. The younger generations will not know. Faster book a spot at Hong Lim Park’s Speakers Corner 😂
@gungho9
@gungho9 Ай бұрын
I think after all died down Iswaran will migrate to India and assist PM Modi and advise Modi how to make money on the side.
@oop1944
@oop1944 Ай бұрын
Weight gain might be his worst enemy.
@CalvinK-the_old_fogey
@CalvinK-the_old_fogey Ай бұрын
@@gungho9 please lah… you are saying Indian politicians want to learn from Iswaran about taking bribes? They are Premier League, you are HDB void deck footballers leh… 😂
@hannah5245
@hannah5245 Ай бұрын
How long jail time will be considered a deterrent sentence?
@mahmoodangullia4235
@mahmoodangullia4235 Ай бұрын
Shame on you if the PAP do a double standard. The book of law in PAP No corruption is involved in government
@W-Sfire7000
@W-Sfire7000 Ай бұрын
But why last-minute corruption charge amended? On everyone's lips. And could his corruption charges be revisited if OBS actually confessors that these Favours & gifts were for special consideration by Iswaran to forward tycoons business interest
@niu745
@niu745 Ай бұрын
So sad😢😢😢
@ssvegeto1610
@ssvegeto1610 Ай бұрын
who is the reporter? her voice very cute =)
@mr.g702
@mr.g702 Ай бұрын
OBS likes young girls. You never know the reason for the special salutation toward this fella!
@lilycool2601
@lilycool2601 Ай бұрын
Reporter do speaks clearly. But she should be mindful to put a humble n a bit of smile would do her good.
@tanpengjoo7205
@tanpengjoo7205 Ай бұрын
LKY said must pay high salary then their ministers will not take bribe.But then.......is their salary not enough to buy cars and condo or g c b .
@HG-kn3hb
@HG-kn3hb Ай бұрын
High salary to buy gifts received from others. Haha.
@ongtayjoojames-ow1bs
@ongtayjoojames-ow1bs Ай бұрын
​@@HG-kn3hb😅
@bohsengchua7122
@bohsengchua7122 Ай бұрын
Selina Lum, can you next time wear a pair of collar shirt? Collarless T is not suitable to face global viewers
@oop1944
@oop1944 Ай бұрын
The viewers deserve more decorum.
@DemocraticInternetBrigade
@DemocraticInternetBrigade Ай бұрын
Hmmm..go to jail 👨🏿‍⚖️
@abdulkarimyusoff2530
@abdulkarimyusoff2530 Ай бұрын
Plea bargaining or horse trading is still a practice here....a gift from the colonial practice....
@JojoJoget
@JojoJoget Ай бұрын
Not like he has a choice even if all the PAP ministers are doing the same
@VictorThang-b5p
@VictorThang-b5p Ай бұрын
He is not from this planet.Guess what planet?
@mengtan8347
@mengtan8347 Ай бұрын
Save the others.
@chuak.c7349
@chuak.c7349 Ай бұрын
Wash backside clean clean and go to jail. 15 years.
@mahmoodangullia4235
@mahmoodangullia4235 Ай бұрын
Sentence to JAIL STRAIGHT. IF MR LEE KWAN YU IS AROUND FOR SURE HE WILL GO JAIL OR JUMP OR TAKE MEDICINE TO GO TO SLEEP PERMANENTLY
@ExperienceSingapore
@ExperienceSingapore Ай бұрын
1 little 2 little 3 little Subramaniam
@benalosious
@benalosious Ай бұрын
What a cute voice lol
@berzmenta8447
@berzmenta8447 Ай бұрын
Goos news
@tonykwok9763
@tonykwok9763 Ай бұрын
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 HUAT AH🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@kelloggole5458
@kelloggole5458 Ай бұрын
👍👍
@fairuzdin3012
@fairuzdin3012 Ай бұрын
Most probably got a fine only
@ysngngys7753
@ysngngys7753 Ай бұрын
Definitely no. Cuz this need to send a strong message down to all public service officers.
@tonykiang9052
@tonykiang9052 Ай бұрын
Going forward, Its Black Dot on Spore story, Iswaran carries this on his back, prob leave country, his 2 culprits face music, as No one above the Law.. Absolutely. Majullah Spura onwards.
@Tiara-i6y
@Tiara-i6y Ай бұрын
Hahaha ha 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@AleksiIvanov-kz5yb
@AleksiIvanov-kz5yb Ай бұрын
professional tua pek kong
@farrahkong1998
@farrahkong1998 Ай бұрын
???
@cheonglam3786
@cheonglam3786 Ай бұрын
Congratulations to you enjoy hotel changi 😅
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