It Could Be The End For This Tractor! The 5020 Story

#johndeere #bigtractorpower #surgery #farming #agricultura #repair #whatswrong

[@edwardboone9403]

I hope that you can put the right parts in it!!

[@lounar482]

I feel your pain...to be continued...I hope?

[@garygrandadam7849]

Happy Independence Day !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LGB We know you will do what is best for the old work horse!

[@brittblanton8342]

Wow Brandon so glad you passed that kidney stone, I can’t imagine having to suffer with one for 3 weeks. Sorry about your problem with the engine, hope you guys have a great 4th of July 🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@scrotiemcboogerballs1981]

Hope you can rebuild it and keep the original block glad you ain’t gonna scrap it thanks for sharing buddy have a great 4th weekend

[@TomA6788]

I agree 💯 👍

[@raeofsunshinebell3602]

Quite common to spin a #4 main bearing on a 531 engine. It is the one that the oil pump goes up through. The saddle is weaker on #4, and allows for accelerated bearing wear. I have had to replace at least 2 short blocks on 7520 tractors, and at least 1 on a 5010 industrial scraper engine. The big block 531 and 619 engines didn’t work very well to line bore. Most of the time they were too far gone before they were shut down. Sorry for your trouble! I overhauled a 619 irrigation pump engine last winter, and we put it in a 6030 down in Florida. The customer still uses it on the field down there.

[@raymondhenderson1516]

Hope your able to restore it. When I lived on the farm the 5020 was our biggest tractor until my dad had a 6030 demo in 1975. Good luck and have a Happy 4th.

[@canvids1]

Fantastic tear down and showing us the big problem, great that you are going to try and save the old girl.

[@Ham68229]

You need to just go ahead and pull the engine. All that metal is going to be all throughout the entire engine block. Think of all the oil passages that feeds everything internally. Don't do a cheap job on this. That 5020 IS totally worth an engine overhaul. I know many would disagree but, go to your local salvage yard, many can get you NOS rebuild/overhaul kits for that engine. Like I said, do this job right, take your time. Cheers :)

[@MrJneesy]

would love to see her keep the original engine should be buildable long as that crank is machinable

[@martymclamb5750]

Great video, hope u get it back running

[@royscarbrough3589]

Hate that! Praying it works out.

[@billyuhlir3783]

Maximum oil pressure hot on a 5020 is 35 psi at 1900 rpm's. South sask farmer went through the same thing.

[@artillerest43rdva7]

it is always bad to have spun bearings! especially having to turn the main due to grooves in the surface. hope the other bearings are ok w/o any further damage. it is always a great thing to keep any tractor all original.

[@kevinwiggins9475]

I overhauled my 5020. Had to put a different head on it. I made my own turbo with a custom header and a Borg Warner s362sxe turbo. Works well

[@PaulHigginbothamSr]

I have been to the hospital 3 times for removal of kidney stones. I am 75 and I now drink lots of fluid hoping for no return because with age you will learn pain is much more intense. Ya'll kinna take it when older. Good that you passed it. The urethra narrows down to a tiny size into the bladder. The reason is to protect the kidneys from bacteria. If it were the same size all way down we probably wouldn't even be here. Pain is pain.

[@DonWelter]

Not an easy decision. Just have to weigh all the alternatives and move forward. These were main heavy horses in their day, so needless to say accumulated a lot of stressful hours.

[@daveholman7677]

Well that sucks, hope you can find all the parts you need,

[@danielelliott1570]

Great video I love the 5020's hope you can save it

[@dannyscott1159]

Its good to see these old tractors still running old school cool . It would nice to see a refresh of this 5020 . seeing as you worked so hard to get it ready for plow day . Are any new updates planned for the 5020 during the winter months ? rebuild or new motor and paint

[@johnkoury1116]

Congrats!!!! Damn kidney stones!! painful sons of.... I hope you had a great weekend and 4th of July!!!

[@robertpayne2717]

I have a friend who just sold several John Deere power units for irrigation well power these engines are either 4 or 6 cylinder engines with a heck of alot of hours on them im sure he sold them for roughly $10,500.00 apiece.... New engines will cost him roughly $25000.00 apiece. They have been gradually changing their units out for aircooled Deutsch engines. It takes roughly 130 horse power engine to drive a well in our area...most wells are 16 inch with 14 inch discharge and some are 14 inch with 12 inch discharge depth of most wells are 100 to 120 feet in depth.

[@hoskinsfarm4378]

I read somewhere that Kinze made an 855 Cummins re- power kit for those tractors, might be worth a look.

[@jeremyswindell2330]

glad u passed that stone! I heard they hurt , guy i work with has had quite a few over the years

[@TomA6788]

Great to hear kidney stones passed, been there done that!! Hopefully you can find a way to rebuild, I like to keep original if can. But if not, maybe a repower upgrade?? Have a great 4th !!👍🍻

[@DunbarLandFarms]

What a bummer

[@AndrewHCann]

Excellent video Brandon :) also sorry see this motor need rebuilt totally also hope crank and crankshaft okay plus be interesting how pistons plus bells even rings too are too even cylinder walls are ! Also gears for timing are too and why say that remember the 1968 624 A tractor 60 hp Desiel motor ran super but on low idle jumping on oil pressure but high idle did not! Also on oil pressure gear had some teeth gone and missing so had do overall rebuilt to whole engine totally that back 1990 plus new gears installed too for timing too! Hopefully tractor be action soon and live on to! Happy July 4 2022 for USA 🇺🇸 Impendence Day to everyone to and be safe to from me in Ontario Canada 🇨🇦!

[@steveaw5895]

That paper looks like a tag off of something. It might of plugged up the pickup. Hoping for the best for the old girl.

[@BIBSTERSrepairshop]

Bummer of a deal for sure I know you guys already have bigger plans for it

[@jarvislarson6864]

Man like your shtick about the hideous canopy ...mine is the red duals,I'd hafta rattle can spray paint it

[@donbenson5292]

It is good to see these brutes of farm tractors still going and being revitalized.

[@thebonafidemechanic3516]

Are y'all's going to Illiana Power Show in Rainsville Indiana???

[@rgfarmsrepair503]

look on the sunny side you don't need to run ur trommel you found gold already lol. That sucks man old tractors are like boats you just bust out another thousand. Have a happy 4th

[@claytoncoolidge992]

Roll a set of mains in and take it to show it'll last long enough for that run super thick oil and if you want to try to prevent from spinning right away touch the caps with a file on the mating surface to make it slightly smaller and hold the bearing from spinning a bit longer

[@stevedibiase728]

Such a shame she needs surgery for you, could tell by your voice how down it made you feel . But now a guy with your skills nice shop to work in all help you have ,all your friends and connections plus internet you will get it going and maybe cheaper than you think. they always say big boys toys are more expensive than little boys....

[@gijoecowboy]

I thought I had lost oil pressure too. New gauges from Evergreen Restoration Inc. and I still have oil pressure. Just bad gauge. But now I have float problem. Flooding the engine. 46 JD A Slant Dash.

[@HighGearAutomotive]

Can totally see that paper which is odd, getting pulled up on the pick up or filter & blocking oil flow. Not very knowledgeable of tractors "why I'm here" but do see plugged pick ups in the auto world cause bearing issue quite often

[@arthurrodesiler3109]

You can fix anything really. The problem is is it worth it.

[@ianwille5780]

There is a company that does Cummins repower engine swaps for the 40 series tractors

[@stephenbrown571]

Line bore the block and have the crank turn if possible.

[@danw6014]

Well the good news is there doesn't seem to be any knock knock knocks in it. Hell I'd rebuild that engine.

[@felixgrave1746]

Maybe south sask farmer can help you with that. Look at his 5020 vids.

[@olegrumpy4519]

I'm only at 4 minutes in the video but with those engines that have the tach drive there on the right side of the engine, you can take that drive off and see the gear on the cam that drives the oil pump, always keep an eye on that gear

[@dirtgrainsteel]

I'm going to check this thank you!

[@olegrumpy4519]

YW@@dirtgrainsteel

[@PaulHigginbothamSr]

I think if only that one I would put that bearing back in if the crank looks OK. If the crank is damaged probably not.

[@t.c.bowling1934]

I'm no expert but there might be 1 in 100 tractors that were parked because nothing was wrong with them. My guess is they knew the motor went bad and they left it to rot. Fix this one right a complete out of frame.

[@peteschiavoni]

Man that stinks she needs heart surgery. I’d check on rebuild first. If it’s not feasible then do a swap of some engine. However I’m glad the 5020 will one day be in the field again.

[@Mark_Tschetter]

Try keeping it as original as possible. Especially cause it already has that m&w kit that makes it really unique.

[@steenfuglsangjespersen8620]

😢😢😢🇩🇰Denmark🇩🇰

[@roberthocking9138]

Obviously lack of lubrication would cause the bearing failure, but what caused that. Did the oil drive gear spin on the shaft, the suction filter block up, The oil pump itself fail, will be interested to see.

[@dcw1540]

Don’t suppose got over oil pickup and starved it of oil? Thanks

[@whiteeagletrans9850]

i was not think of that but you found your problem

[@markgreen9763]

Happy 4th of July

[@ronaldellingwood2211]

What did you estimate the weight of the oil pan off the 5020? I never seen one that big.

[@Floreypottery]

Knew it was bad when I seen the thin oil

[@gilreynolds9282]

I think sleeves and turn the crank and she will run again.

[@kb80909kbbbbb]

Keep it original!

[@markward6076]

Wonderful morning? I don't know what world you're living in.

[@fredspindor1624]

Sad Day

[@garyjohnson4458]

My dad was a mechanic he always told me when you buy one that's been setting for year be ready to put money into it

[@whiteeagletrans9850]

i know this is after the vidoe but does this tractor have an oil cooler on it and have you checked the bypass relief vale it maybe stuck open particle

[@roberthocking9138]

I can’t smell or feel that oil but I bet pounds to peanuts you have excessive fuel dilution in that oil.

[@matthewdavis4081]

It's to bad that the big brute is going to need major surgery. It's a he'll of a tractor

[@perryspradlin31]

yiu might find a engine at anderson tractor parts in bluffton ohio they have bein in business for a long time they are a salvage yard hope this helps Happy 4th OF JULY.

[@apollorobb]

Engine Glitter is always a bad thing to find .

[@dwaynemoore1575]

It was parked for a reason now you know why

[@AndrewHCann]

Glad Kidney Stones cure to Brandon :) also one thing should try get help out to on Kidney Stones get filter blaster run from well cold water line before hit hot and water combination tank ! Filter is size paper roll of paper towels and but changed it when cold also hot water get cloudy color or taste funny like garbage or rusty brown or calcium white and easy change filter to yourself too! The water taste like crystal clear and no problem ever but check in to also be amazing to have one for life! I know up Ontario Canada were I live call company to check it was free test , guy work for company told what happened besides I told him match both findings on and he said pay machine was need plumber do set up also pay for machine $2500.00 and 10 year warranty to if broken down ! In 2 weeks had set up also shown how work it plus filter used by plumber did he install also tap hook in when changing filter and get new filters from to buy there $11.00 for one but buy more get cheaper in like having 6 or more ! Change filter in 6 months first then 90 days after like 3 months unless water terrible again but company water filter company phone ask how plumbing and plumber did plus tester to how taste to after plus if need check more so far have not do that ! But perfect on well water Best in years to and I close Lake Ontario in Ontario Canada and lots farm at my home to around too! But if want check it out and plus do the Machine is Sulphur and Mineral blaster Zapper! Worth it and glad did to because water had to much Orange Sulphur Mineral and Calcium in well come in plug up taps plus toilet and much even had boil water from tap for cooking to drink no more only near water filter change in one week worth ! But tell you be impressed even on wash clothes smell like new again and dry faster after washing plus dishes like never had happen to them like bought new too!

[@williamspates1015]

Time to find a 619 to put in it. I usually use a transmission jack just because of a wider plate to drop the oil pan.

[@Bill-xc8le]

Rebuild the original

[@williamspates1015]

@@Bill-xc8le if you can save that crank or find a good used one 531 parts are getting harder to come by

[@williamspates1015]

Another choice would be to build a kinze repower with a 6-71 Detroit

[@cumminspoweredab7441]

I wonder if that piece of paper/ sticker was getting sucked up to the oil pick up and starving pump for oil.

[@dwaynemoore1575]

619

[@mikemccloney5640]

A 3406 CAT swap would be cool !

[@Bill-xc8le]

Not!!

[@mikemccloney5640]

Ha Ha ya That would be a tuff job to take on I just thought it would be better then a old oil leaking Detroit , but a 619 sounds like a good idea .Or maybe you can keep the 531 . Have a safe day !

[@bradrutland5081]

Drank more beer no stones

[@farmer12664]

It says no stream when try to play video

[@garybingen9722]

767

[@qualityweldingandrepair1424]

Well..a cat will fit real nice 👌

[@dirtgrainsteel]

That would be cool!

[@BigJay2475]

There no sound

[@jameskelley8839]

what year is the D adj to the 5020 in the shop?

[@dirtgrainsteel]

Thats a 1929 John Deere GP kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHqxaqd8rt6lgpo

[@niterider5327]

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[@gagebunkowfst779]

Did that tractor have a loader at one point in its life

[@zendoargos4988]

It would be a shame for an old piece of classic green iron to be put out to pasture permanently, but there is a reason those tractors are the same color as $$$$. I would love to see it fixed and back in the field, but don't throw money at a tractor that you don't actually need.

[@nickolasburger3769]

Couldn't u put a Detroit diesel engine or a cat engine into the 5020?

[@farmer12664]

It says no stream when trying to play video

[@dirtgrainsteel]

It's a KZbin issue probably have to wait alittle bit then try to watch it

[@roaringred]

What about a kinze repower? Or m&w repower! Like a cat, cummins or detroit v8?

[@nickallen9428]

Is a 466 a viable option?

[@williamspates1015]

466 is a smaller block than 5020 has

[@mikestarcher]

U working on the 5020? If u wanna sell it...

[@dirtgrainsteel]

I'm going to be fixing it sometime this winter

[@mikestarcher]

@@dirtgrainsteel sweet, ill be looking forward to seeing those videos on here

[@warrenpost1502]

How fast were you going when you past it

[@koreymartinson7238]

That just stinks!

[@miniaturefarmer464]

See who has an overhaul kit and get the crank redone. I would put it back to original.

[@miniaturefarmer464]

Lots of overhaul kits out there. They seem to start at $2600 for everything needed.

[@brandonwood1397]

8.3 Cummins or bust

[@billbinder5223]

They don’t have overhaul kits for the 5020 anymore .

[@Bill-xc8le]

Bullshit they do too!!

[@ashleythompson5550]

Dill kill the 8640 to save life of a 5020 86 hell of alot better tractor then those turds

[@georgedavidson1221]

“. South Saskatchewan Farmer. ,””””. Has one he has rebuilt Check his channel and you can e mail Nick and see where got parts good luck He seems to be able to get parts for a lot of older tractors