IT IS LIGHTER BUT IS IT BETTER

[@timlacy2284]

Blackie , Great Video I really like the way you tested products and give a Honest Opinions. Being 60 years old I still like some old school stuff, but do look at new stuff. You Are The Master Woodsman and Bushcrafter, thanks for passing on the knowledge and keeping it real. Tim L.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

thank you

[@rgober60]

I would still pick stainless. Easier to work with and depend on overall. Thanks for the lesson. Have a safe weekend and try to cool off. I'm right there with you. Humid and rainy here too. 👍👍👍👍👍

[@alf3553]

I have there set that is a large cup, small cup & lid. It fits the Nalgene canteen pretty good. I use most of my Titanium with a FireBox Nano stove & Trangia burner, great combo.

[@bobpadrick7718]

Excellent review. Love it when someone teaches me "the rest of the story."

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@victorbell1378]

Good video and thanks for the lesson...... I sure miss Paul Harvey on the air

[@wisenber]

You'll probably find the titanium to be as durable as the stainless steel. It might be more flexible and thin, but it won't dent like steel and it isn't brittle like steel. That being said, you'll be disappointed if you're trying to cook anything that requires much temperature control, and you won't like scraping out the remnants.

[@tennesseesmoky9012]

So looking forward to this series on canteen cooking. I’d be interested in learning more about titanium products. Right now the price point on titanium seems to expensive for me. But I’m open to learning more about the advantages and disadvantages. Thanks for taking us along Blackie -Tennessee Smoky

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

thats why i had stayed away as well if it is a good solid cooker.. then ok ..but if it will not hold up to real world use not just boil water can i cook in it bake ect if not then i will save you guys some money i will take the time to test

[@smd482000]

I bought a pot and cup on the A.T. sent s.s. home I found you got stri it more and I use a cozy for the pot it help. A lot save on gas

[@woodsinme]

@@BLACKIETHOMAS Thank you sir. Another good one. Appreciate you.

[@oldminer5387]

Great topic Blackie. I'm glad you are going to put a titanium set through the paces. I appreciate your real field use honest reviews of equipment.

[@boomshanka8743]

I find titanium challenging to do anything with other than boil water, which is why the ultralight folks like it (cooking to them means pouring boiling water into a packet and stirring). As far as canteen pouches go, I really like the USMC coyote tan one. It is bomb proof. Someone really needs to remake the old Heavy Cover lid, I have one and it is excellent.

[@jem6205]

Avocado oil is your friend when cooking in titanium.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

thanks i will give that a try

[@CastawayHikes]

JMO, titanium is great for an ultralight cook set for boiling water for dehydrated meals. I would still choose stainless steel for actual cooking

[@eturnerx]

That's my thinking too - and I've always had other priorities in terms of the weight savings so haven't gone for the Ti yet. Still, open to see what Blackie comes up with.

[@barrybri]

I would recommend using a titanium spoon for stirring food in the pot as stainless steel will scratch the titanium finish.I like the long handled titanium spoon with a polished bowl which is easier to keep clean.I prefer the Lixada brand that I paid ~$8 on the bay a few years ago.

[@TheScoundrel70]

I had a Canadian made titanium set a few years ago (maybe 17-18 now). Canada is #4 or #5 in the world for titanium production behind China, South Africa, Ukrane, etc. My set was thicker than what most seem to be now, but still very light. My experience was as a boiler or stew pot, it was fantastic. Heats very quickly given the heat source. Better than my Aluminum stuff at the time, and obviously quicker than stainless steel. My problems started when I would fry, bake, etc. EVERYTHING stuck. I swear Mobil 1 would behave like super glue in it. I tried various ways of seasoning it, but it all would quickly carbonize to the inside and you would regularly get flakes coming off in your food. It hot spots, in that if your heat isn't extremely even, your cooking surface will basically mirror the variations. Even fuel stoves (vs. wood) hot spotted in a nice circle where the flame touched the bottom. So there is a learning curve to be sure. I ended up tucking a piece of 3/16" mild steel in my kit to use as a heat distribution plate between the heat source and titanium. It actually worked reasonably well, and smoothed out the heat zones, but between the stickiness, and having to use the heat plate, it cooled my enthusiasm for titanium, so I traded the set for some tools, and I opted to go with Stainless Steel cookwear for outdoor cooking. I'll be really interested to see how you do with this set Blackie, times change so maybe some clever fella somewhere has found a way to reduce the problems I had.

[@rushedandlost]

Good info on over seas products . Some reasons for made in "another country" are not apparent on the surface. Please see Dave Canterbury's video on a closely related subject. He has products made in "another country" on his store. His video explains some of the reasons that is. I try to buy American whenever possible , but sometimes , because of cost ,or product quality, made in "another country " something we must consider. Good video , Thank You.

[@caseysr.sectionhiker8372]

The knock against Titanium I've heard (aside from cost) is it's poor heat distribution & tendency for hot spots. I've got some of it but never used it much. Steel & aluminium work good enough cooking over coals or adjustable flame stoves, along with keeping the food moving while it's cooking. My favorite way is pouring boiling water over dehydrated food & that doesn't care what material I use or how I do it.

[@IAMGWH1]

True! But I prefer anodized aluminum. Light weight, even heat areas, generally non stick, uses less fuel, heats fast yet cools slowly, can be used over multi heat sources, low priced & strong! Why not give that a try? I like the bowl design 8-10oz,16-32oz (round aluminum bake pan $1 cut out bottom for a lid w/vent holes) vs “cup” shaped (any material) with REI lidded cups (light weight) 16oz drink or eat 32oz the same insulated & East to clean & store items. But to each their own!?

[@christopherrowley7506]

stainless steel, and steel in general isn't good at distributing heat. I definitely get hotspots in my stainless steel pot. The reason cast iron works is because it's so thick. Aluminum, tin, and copper all distribute heat well.

[@EspenFrafalne]

Being a big fan of ultralight gear, one would think i preferred titanium, but as aluminum is way better for spreading the heat evenly, i feel like the cooking pot is one of those things that is ok to bring a medium weight option.

[@thomasmusso1147]

Thanks for the Info 👍. Looks like a nice lightweight Set. Right now, my pocket is the decider .. and my existing SS Canteen Cup from the 70's is long paid for.

[@virginiacopeland108]

Stainless steel for me! Thumbs up!!! Clark

[@davidgraemesmith1980]

SR71 BLACKBIRD? I got a few funny looks from folks when I pulled out stainless steel wood gasifier camp stove and zebra head lunch pail at a bushcraft meet just before "the virus" hit the news, the others were mostly using titanium cooking gear and either butane/propane or alcohol stoves, after hiking and cycle camping as a teenager in the late 90's I go by the thing of "lightweight is great but I want tough and reliable". I have a couple bits of titanium gear, a 400ml mug and a 750ml coffee/cook pot and a spork, they bundle together in a modified bottle pouch with the cup covering the top of a polycarbonate waterbottle, with a small BCB firedragon alcohol gel/hexamine stove for quick getaways/fishing.

[@cephasmcpher67peteroutdoorspip]

Like you Blackie I swore up and down that I would not buy a titanium cookset because I couldn't in my mind justify the advantage of it to the price but now as of a year ago I broke down and bought a Keith Titanium set which is the set that Heavy Cover also sells just without the HC logo. It is a great canteen and cup combo for the warmer months here in the north but in the winter I carry the Pathfinder SS canteen and cup because of it's durability even though I have to say I've been pretty rough with the titanium set and haven't managed to dent it or warp it but for comfort sake it's never going to fully replace Stainless Steel. Great video.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

thanks for the info

[@bobbyfurr8780]

Been using the Military stainless steel ones for years now. I have 5 of them. They simply work. I'll wait and see how your use of the Ti works out. Excellent video and explanation. Thank you.

[@TheNightowl001]

I'll look forward to hearing your ultimate opinion of this titanium set, but for me, I worry less about the weight and more about the cost and durability. I'd much rather have a stainless steel set. (I bought one I THOUGHT was stainless steel, it said in the listing it was stainless steel, and it turned out to be aluminum; so I'm still on the hunt for a stainless steel canteen and cup set by mail order that doesn't cost $80.) Usually you have to buy the newer-style cup lid separately. Everything else nests together, but the lid has to be carried separately. I'm okay with that. I'm okay with it being heavier. I want indestructible.

[@shastaham7630]

I'm waiting for delivery of a heavy stainless steel canteen cup and lid. Although not an exact match, I hope to use them with my recently acquired Stanley canteen. I have used titanium in the past, but have found it to be no more "campfire friendly" than aluminum. Thanks for the history lesson.

[@walkerone9833]

I believe that aircraft was the SR-71 Blackbird. Don't the bail handle attachment points get in the way if you want to drink out of your "cup"? I love love love Canterbury's stainless canteen cup stove. Built in grill, heat can flow around the bottom of the cup and hot handles on cup are not a problem. And you can actually drink from the cup. That stove w/this Ti cup would be great if they nested and you could drink from the cup.......I wonder?.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

so far the bail has not been a problem when drinking but the jury is still out

[@D5quared91]

You are MY FAVORITE channel on KZbin sir! THANK YOU for all that you do and for sharing your knowledge!!

[@curtispollay9939]

Man you are something . I just can,t get enough. Love your vidios. Keepum coming.

[@briarsmoke6046]

Titanium if you need to go ultralight, but be prepared to mainly use it as a boiling mechanism. If you can deal with the added weight stainless is the way to go. It all depends on what you need it to do and are you able to haul it around. I do have some titanium in some of my packs but it’s there to be used as a minimalist boiling system and that’s it. As soon as I want to do something else it gets swapped out for stainless.

[@jelkel25]

I bought a 700ml pot with one of the lids that look like a tiny frying pan about 3 years ago to replace the canteen cup. It's very good and has stood up to a good bit of use. I've heard elsewhere if you put the titanium in the fire on one side for a good while it can warp it and your lid won't fit anymore. Hasn't happened to me so I can't confirm that.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

i wll be testing mine to see how well it holds up

[@kennethwilson8633]

Wish I was rich guess I watch you and pretend. Happy camping keep the videos coming.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Will do!

[@waynehendrix4806]

Looking forward to seeing your field tests. Thanks Blackie.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Thanks 👍

[@IAMGWH1]

I had a thin light weight stainless steel small pot & pan set with a copper bottom like the home kitchen version but for camping on a bid sight, they probably fell for the Titanium craze. No one else was really bidding just me lol now there’s nothing left after people junked them. Quality SS don’t rust & mine didn’t but I’d the same then like small bowls to cook with I’ll buy more. My thin SS with ceramic coating (oven Dutch pots?) yard sale find is above SS & below anodized aluminum. Light weight, heats fast, easy clean up & it just works!

[@gedeon2696]

A good compromise between stainless steel and titainium kit is "Hard Anodised Aluminum". The suff is almost as light weight as ti and as tough as stainless but much less costly tham ti and far better heat conductive. See the Trangia HA (hard anodised) kits.

[@heartoflions7138]

Good video.... I looked hard at the keith titanium canteen kits but will stick with the good old GI canteen cup kit.

[@jem6205]

Great video! I was looking at that set to replace my steel one because it's getting a little hard to keep clean with all of the mileage. I ended up going with the Boundless Voyage Titanium Canteen Mess Kit and I am using a foldable wood stove that I can slide in with the kit. Almost completed half a full season with it and the only issues that I ran into is a common titanium complaint with discoloration. I am going to try hitting the base with some grill rustoleum high heat or high heat paint that matches the color to see if it helps. I think the discoloration doesn't harm anything, but it does make it look funky.

[@jem6205]

That's paint on the outside... the inside doesn't matter much to me.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

i painted my pathfinder bushpot and have done canteen cups with high temp paint before helps with clean up

[@trynsurviven2440]

I like the bale on the new one but prefer the durability of stainless steel.

[@richavery5431]

Can't wait to see all of your reviews on this stuff. I've also been using the old faithful GI issue for years. That looks like a different vehicle. Where is the ole blue pickup I'm so accustomed to seeing?

[@randomsurvival5004]

finally bought a us cup and stove I’m excited to get it in I’m not to worried about weight but In the future this might be the way to go. Love the videos

[@lessage760]

thank you sir for sharing this info with use it was great blackie looking forward to more on it

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

More to come!

[@MichaelR58]

Good video , thanks for sharing , God bless !

[@misolgit69]

I think the plane you are talking about is probably the SR-71 mach 3.5 spy plane, a magnificent beast

[@pelewads]

I am really looking forward to seeing your testing, of this titanium product. Any lightweight metal is going to suffer from the same disadvantages. They are going to cool down really fast. And they are going to heat up real fast. Causing scorching. Given the cost of titanium, I would really love to see a comparison, between titanium and aluminum. And, aluminum is actually lighter. Although, aluminum is not a strong. So I wonder if it would have to be made thicker. If it is at all possible, I would love for you to do that comparison. Love your channel. And your knowledge

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

thats the whole issue..once you make aluminum thicker its close to weight of thin stainless the trade off becomes less of a big deal

[@grampawterry6104]

For me Blackie I'll keep using my US Army kit .

[@instantsiv]

I think the recent explosion in popularity is due to ultralighters... funny thing is they figured out to get rid of all of it... the cups/pots/pans/stoves to get even lighter. Just eat ready to eat foods/meals straight out of the packaging.

[@MrRourk]

Yup re hydrating food. I do it sometimes.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

when you travel a lot in warm times of the year with everything on your back you will go to that i did i would just carry cans of soup/ stew /what ever open eat from can burn can in fire smash flat let cool put in pack walk out

[@MrRourk]

The shelf life is very good. It is all dehydrated and pre cooked. Just add water. You need a plastic Gelato container. In between break fill with food and add the correct water amount. Place back in pack and go hiking. Next break 2 or 3 hrs later eat up. But sometimes you want to cook up a real meal out there. All methods to eat are viable.

[@tomritter493]

Thanks blackie. Everything titanium I've had I warped . Ppl singing praise . I hate the stuff last thing I had I dropped my pack bent it lid never fit again

[@badhat3051]

I didn't know about where Titanium came from, and considering its cost, I think I'll stick with Stainless Steel

[@EspenFrafalne]

Aluminum is farily cheap, and also lighter than steel - and most importantly; its much better at spreading the heat evenly than both steel and titanium, meaning you dont get [as much] hotspots which fry your steak unevenly, or make it difficult to simmer your foods without burning it. Steel may be stronger, but i really cant see why anyone would need anything stronger than the "HA UL" (hard anodized ultralight) Trangia pots... Thinner aluminum pots can still give pretty bad hotspots though, and can also be a kinda "fragile".

[@badhat3051]

@@EspenFrafalne Stainless Steel is without a doubt stronger heaver but more durable than Aluminum... that being said have you ever noticed the cookware in a commercial fast food kitchen? Its primarily stainless steel. Now my morning coffee is generally served in a waffle house restaurant.This chain serves up 100's of thousand of eggs every day across its primary demographic and the egg cookware is Aluminum why? well it heats up faster and cooks the egg faster but they go through a bunch of egg skillets every year too. The very best cookware is probably cast iron, lasts longer holds its heat better is healthier ...

[@EspenFrafalne]

​@@badhat3051 The "HA UL" Trangia aluminum pots are pretty sturdy, and will last a LONG time. Just make sure to use wood or plastic utensils with aluminum pans, as steel can scrape tiny particles of aluminum into the food, which can give parkinsons or alzheimers like symptoms (according to my cooking school teacher when i went to college). Having heard people say one should not carry more weight than 15% of the body weight, and reading an article where doctors said just 10% (to avoid strain injuries to the knees and back), i try to stick to ultralight equipment, unless i have a good reason for it, like using aluminum cook pots instead of titanium. Im only 120 pounds or something, so i should ideally not carry more than 12-18 pounds, which is pretty limiting, even with ultralight gear. Especially if i want to pack food for 3 days...

[@therightisright8276]

Great outdoor info! Somebody should make a Blackie action figure complete with hat, tent, mess kit, Kukri knife, Haversack and his revolver Stormborn on his hip. I'd buy one and sit it on my truck's dash!

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

lol

[@waynewatters9283]

Blackie, I have learned a lot from watching your videos and have put much of the knowledge to work teaching my grandson the importance of self reliance and breaking his need for video games and getting him to enjoy getting outside in the great outdoors. He likes your hat! You promised to tell us more about the manufacturer as I recall. I have found one similar at the Scout Shop and purchased it for him but, well, to put it bluntly, he hates it. Please, tell me the name of the manufacturer and I will attempt to get him one like yours. Thanks, keep the knowledge coming.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

mine was sold thru the scout shop in the early 1990's maker was BROMER

[@waynewatters9283]

@@BLACKIETHOMAS Thank you. The one I bought my grandson from the Scout Shop is a no-name and more than likely imported. Quality has a lot to be desired. Again, thank you and keep at it!

[@Hoonozit]

Thanks for the video.

[@bighatstephens]

I lost so much weight I needed to replace my wedding ring. It was a silver ring, and my husband wanted to get me a more expensive ring. We looked at gold and it was too far out of the ballpark for the karat quality. So we found a company that would make the ring out of titanium. I swear the ring is 1/3 the weight of the silver ring. Before you say why didn't you have it resized, well it's simple. A circle is round and has no end, that is how long I want to be married to my best friend.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

very nice

[@jamesflener6889]

Looking forward to your series. Been half nearly looking at a other set for my canteen, will wait for your opinion first!

[@jeffechols5302]

Thanks for the information 👍

[@garrypitts4155]

Oh yeah I also have a stainless steel pie tin that's my plate and or frying pan and I got that at Goodwill for like 50 cents or something yeah definitely cost efficient

[@TerryC69]

Blackie, thank you for a very informative video. I came into this knowing nearly nothing about Titanium. My take away, from the video, is that titanium's principle advantage over steel is weight. Otherwise, it is more expensive, less durable and more likely to burn food than steel. I can see the appeal for backpackers and folks who do a lot of "just add hot water" type cooking. As an aside, I wish we could rank videos with stars or something. If I could, this one would be a five.

[@jem6205]

It heats up fast with less of a flame and therefore takes practice and time to fully enjoy cooking on titanium. Yes, it is stronger than tin or aluminum, but it is weaker than steel because of the thickness of it. You can get a thicker version but they cost 5x as much as the set that Blackie is testing out.

[@TerryC69]

@@jem6205 Thanks for the information

[@The_Channel_Of_Chad]

I'm not sure it's that much cheaper; a SS canteen cookset on eBay is going anywhere between $20-$80 depending on options like lid, SS canteen, plastic canteen, etc.

[@dalevodden1359]

The better canteen cup is the one with the grab handle it folds under the cup not those wire handles my opinion on the wire handle is that that are junk. God Bless

[@stevenladrig9592]

I'm staying with my stainless steel Blackie

[@victorsaglimbeni4599]

Hey Blackie, where would be the best place to fined usgi stainless steel cup and lid? Or is it impossible to get. Thank you. The video was great, Keep em coming.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

kaufmans military surplus samson alabama 334-898-1770 tell them blackie sent ya and they will hand select it for ya

[@victorsaglimbeni4599]

@@BLACKIETHOMAS Thank you sir, take care

[@michaelbrunner6654]

Yep I'd love to buy that lid,lol.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

lol yep quite a few want that lid

[@jeffrichards5106]

Hi Blackie, I have that same canteen cook set that I got off of Amazon also. I was having a hard time getting it to fit in the Molle canteen pouch because of the bail handle, it was really bumming me out. So I haven't even used it yet. I guess I'll try again to stuff it in there. Do you usually put the cup lid on the bottom and cup on top of it in your canteen pouch? or do you put the lid vertically behind the cup? Really looking forward to more of your canteen cup cooking videos.👍

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

i bent the bail a little to curve more around the cup and I put the lid on the bottom

[@jeffrichards5106]

@@BLACKIETHOMAS Thanks Blackie, appreciate it. I'll give that a try. 👍

[@shadowstalker130666]

I've got pretty much the same set up. US cup, stove and a heavy cover lid. I swear the lid weighs more than the cup! But i got the nalgene canteen, doesnt give the water that us canteen aftertaste. Ive considered titanium, im just worried about scorching food with how fast it heats up.

[@70TheProfessor]

I thought about the Titanium canteen kit, but then I had this idea: a quart of water weighs a little over 2 pounds. That is a lot of weight compared to either a stainless steel or a Titanium canteen. So, can you tell a lot of difference between the two kits when both are full of water?

[@hiramhaji7813]

Great video

[@oxxnarrdflame8865]

It looks like a good kit and the price seems ok to me. Not that far off from other titanium cook ware

[@mr.fisher3973]

Looking forward to see how the titanium performs.

[@1ronKnuckles]

quick side not, pans don't burn food, chefs do.

[@caseysr.sectionhiker8372]

Mostly chefs cooking over bonfires in my experience. Cooking over coals would save many a camp meal that gets thrown out.

[@skovbo65]

Just so you know, titanium is clicking when it is heating up and cooling down.

[@57WillysCJ]

I will be interested in seeing how this works for you. We must watch some of the same programs. It was the SR-71 Blackbird that needed so much titanium.

[@gregsmall5939]

..and all those "companies" were fronted by the CIA (through a labyrinth of shell companies).

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

thats correct the SR-71 AND LIGHT COOK POTS ..the ""companies " made a lot of hype so they could buy the sheets they needed thats one reason you dont find titanium in thicker cups ect if its soo light why not make it a bit thicker so its toucher for field use..also spoiler alert if it was such a great canteen cup why didnt the u.s army go to it?

[@57WillysCJ]

@@BLACKIETHOMAS GI's were mostly teenage boys. They could destroy the most heavy duty made item much less thin titanium or as I like to call it tiny tin.

[@alanjhornung7077]

Great Review

[@i_am_a_freespirit]

Yes, stainless steel is good to have for pots and pans, but I don't like it for skillets. There I rather have my cast iron skillets.

[@PabloP169]

China is the biggest producer of Titanium, South Africa 2nd, and Australia 3rd. Russia doesn't appear to a significant producer at all.

[@IAMGWH1]

Probably the middle man 👨

[@simonh6371]

Canada is 4th. Hence RTI International of Pittsburgh is one of the largest and most reputable suppliers of Ti alloy components. Aerospace - I worked for them in the UK and we were supplying Airbus with Ti alloy landing gear - defence (breech blocks for mountain artillery pieces where low weight was a a requirement - and medical implants are their biggest markets. In 2015 Canadian aluminium giant Alcoa bought them out.

[@MAXCOBRALAZERFACE]

It’s expensive but I like titanium.

[@michalurbanful]

Nice review, thanks! PS: What hat is that pls?

[@ScorpionRegent]

Blackie - Titanium costs, if you are going to use it every day it's a bargain. For a go bag that never gets used it's a waste of money. For a lighter load at a reasonable price, get a aluminum cup and use aluminum foil as a lid.

[@michael200927]

Titanium is alsof found in Scandinavië, South africa, australia and Malaysia.

[@jelicoe]

Maybe titanium canteen, lid and stove with a SS cup?

[@rogibaer]

Cooling down fast a negative too: Your food/ hot drink is cold before you've finished it (especially in winter).

[@trident88596]

Hey Blackie how long did it take you to get the Titanium cup set? I ordered one yesterday. Thanks

[@tinsoldier5621]

Jmho but the bail thimbles should placed lower

[@MrMarkar1959]

i like that lid,,bought two rothco lids👎🏼junk, does not fit USGI canteen cup. they only get heavy when you get too old to carry them,,

[@Gadsdentreadlightly]

Titanium has always seemed like over hyped garbage to me. It's an amazing metal when it's not thin as a coke bottle. I'll be looking forward to seeing how this comes out.

[@jerrydonnelly6134]

I cannot even find the heavy cover on ebay. :(

[@lj2026]

Hers a good idea on the handles got u sum heat shrink and put on handles

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

i was thinking of them silicone drinking straws silicone goes to 500 F before melts we shall see

[@wordwalker3]

Have you used the Ti US GI style canteen cup from Keith titanium, also carried by Heavy Cover?

[@brandonwebb5256]

I honestly thing if your just heating water for those back packing type meals or things like that and weight is a consideration, Ti would be a great option, but actual cooking I feel stainless is a much better option. The durability of a quality stainless cooker wins hands down. But, like you, I would give it an honest try.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

I totally agree! thats why i am gonna see how well this holds up ..

[@garrypitts4155]

I don't have the lid and I don't have the stove but I'll take the stainless steel cup over anything I don't care about the weight cuz I carry a minimal amount of stuff anyhow I'm in a canteens or I have are all plastic anyway

[@Very_Angry_Citizen]

I've never cooked in titanium, however I've used stainless steel and copper. There is definitely a different taste to food when comparing stainless to cooper. I'm wondering if titanium has the same effect.

[@jem6205]

There is a taste difference but it can be masked by rich flavors

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Great point!

[@1ronKnuckles]

I paid $10 for my canteen cup, lid, stove, canteen, and pouch. Unless titanium out performs by a factor of 5 Ill carry the weight.

[@jem6205]

It doesn't

[@1ronKnuckles]

@@jem6205 then titanium seems best for ultra light long distance deals. Not for old guys like me just farting around in the bush.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

i agree i aint getting rid of my stainless i have had 40 yrs.. just trying new stuff

[@jem6205]

@@1ronKnuckles very true, I try to take my cast iron before my steel, but sometimes it's nice to just sit down after walking for a few hours and make a snack before heading back to camp or home for a meal. I used and still have my steel sets that have made their way into car kits. I switched to aluminum to only destroy them from what I would call normal use. Plastic is a waste. I moved on to titanium only 7 years ago, because I wanted to carry something during those day hikes that could offer up a way to make a snack on the trail. Making a meal is possible, but a big old guy like me wants a meal. I believe I even thought of a way to make carbonara on the trail using my current titanum mess kit and haversack. But haven't tried it yet because I want to try it at home before trying it in the middle of a trail. The idea of having two pots instead of just one for my canteen kit has opened the door to more recipes on the trail for me. I dont like rehydrating meals as much as others mainly because of taste and cost.

[@jobydixon]

First!

[@kennethhamby9811]

Staying with old school. Won’t spend on China junk

[@smd482000]

btw I like that kit but the stove

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

thanks

[@smd482000]

@@BLACKIETHOMAS to bad you did n At put link to it

[@duybear4023]

Wonder what canteen bottles it's compatible with.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

so far i have tried the nalgene and it fits a bit snug at the end the u.s army is the same fit

[@johnfortwengler4496]

I'd stick with the old set even though it is heavy

[@smd482000]

got stri more

[@MrErik038]

its not as hot on the lips like steel ..

[@Макс_из_Новосибирска]

Это так тупо. В России для самолётов используется "авиационный титан" - специальный сплав повышенной прочности. Титан для пищевой промышленности слишком мягкий для использования в самолётостроении. Хотя, может, для Америки сгодился и такой хлам.