It is true: Ricoh GR IIIx will CHANGE the way you photograph!

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Peter Forsgård

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I bought Ricoh GR IIIx for my street photograph. Many say that it will change the way you photograph and it is true.
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@ruuddirks5565
@ruuddirks5565 10 ай бұрын
It looks like you, like Matti, are falling in love with the GR iii x.
@MrChannel28
@MrChannel28 10 ай бұрын
I’ve been using Olympus Pen E-Pl9 with a Lumix G 20/1.7, for me it’s the same as it for you and the Ricoh. I’ve been using it since 2019 and i don’t need anything else for my street!!!!
@stephenjones9246
@stephenjones9246 10 ай бұрын
Beautiful photographs Peter, thanks for sharing, I really like the images of the murals, we have some superb examples over in Glasgow which should make great subjects for my next trip.
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 10 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@remembershooting2064
@remembershooting2064 6 ай бұрын
This camera has completely changed my approach and interest in photography. I haven't taken my OM-1 out in a couple of months, never mind telephoto lenses. I don't think I take good photographs with it yet, it requires a totally different way of seeing compared to my familiar competence with wildlife and landscapes, but I find it so much more exciting. It feels 'true to myself' and how I see the world, where wildlife/BIF can feel more like a technical exercise. Maybe most significantly, I no longer care about the reaction to my photos. I share very few, I'm not looking for crowd pleasers, I just have fun capturing what is beautiful to me.
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I am glad that you found a new way to enjoy photography.
@gwarlow
@gwarlow 10 ай бұрын
Nice video. Looks like a great little camera for street photography, providing there is no rain/wet snow. A little pricey for a compact non-weather sealed, fixed lens camera but it will be a wonderful tool for those who photograph people candidly. Cheers.
@aerialfilm1
@aerialfilm1 10 ай бұрын
Those images are striking. The GR has been on my radar for some time as an option to traveling with just the iPhone as my only camera. A grip and a real shutter button, pocketable along with being inconspicuous looks unbeatable. A year or so ago I never imagined I’d be so tight for space that even a m4/3 camera and a couple lenses would be too much. Times change and I have too. Maybe it’s time to reevaluate.
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 10 ай бұрын
Thanks. I have found Ricoh GR IIIx to be quite ok what it comes to the size.
@jonastruemper637
@jonastruemper637 10 ай бұрын
I wonder why you wouldn't consider other weather-sealed pocket cameras then, like the Oly TG-6/TG-7. Would have been a good addition to the video to address alternatives without those flaws. :-)
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 10 ай бұрын
I managed quite well in the rainy conditions in Brussels. I think Ricoh GR IIIx is more suitable for street photography. At least for me. There are features that are there to make street photography slightly easier.
@geocaching7528
@geocaching7528 6 ай бұрын
Thank you Peter, your last remark about 28 is interesting. I have the 28mm version ( 18mm APS-C). It is a fantastic camera... But i am not such a good amateur photographer and I find such wide angle difficult to use. So, I am really considering this X version for its slightly norrower angle. But i guess i should first test this focal more thoroughly using my reflex...
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 6 ай бұрын
I like the 26,1mm (40mm) lens better. I am always struggling with wide angles.
@dwightjones3305
@dwightjones3305 10 ай бұрын
There’s risk of getting dust on the sensor if you keep the camera in your pocket. A new version has been hinted. I will wait and see if it is weather sealed to keep dust out.
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 10 ай бұрын
I have heard about that. I have to see if that happens.
@georgeinfallschurchva6565
@georgeinfallschurchva6565 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Peter for another excellent video! I have been using the GRIIIx as my light travel camera for the past year. I pair it with the Olympus TG-6 which is not nearly as fast or sharp but does compliment the GRIIIx by its weather sealing and modest zoom lens. What is really great is that both cameras use the same battery! That greatly simplifies carrying spare batteries and a charger on extended trips when you really have to travel light.
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 10 ай бұрын
Yes I noticed that when I ordered a charger for extra batteries. It is quite convinient.
@petegleeson1
@petegleeson1 9 ай бұрын
I know English isn’t your first language Peter so forgive me if this is just a translation issue. I wouldn’t call the things “flaws” they are the consequences of design choices which are about having a perfect snap camera that makes excellent images, is a small quick to use package and has no frills that distract from the simplicity of the “tool”. There are some excellent videos where the design team talk about the philosophy. If I want a viewfinder, an articulating screen and weatherproof I take my OM5 and 20mm f1.4 pro, it is a fab camera and better in many situations than the GR which in its turn is a fab camera and better in certain situations and for certain style of shooting. As much as I like my OM5 my GRiii feels like an extension of me and you are in my opinion correct to say it leads to you shooting differently.
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 9 ай бұрын
You are right that flaws is a wrong word, too strong. I am quite happy with the camera. The only thing that should be improved is weather sealing. If a camera is meant for street photography it should be weather proof. On the other hand I managed to photograph what I wanted in pouring rain. The camnera ca be handled with one hand so I could have an umbrella in my other hand. That also made be blend in.
@petegleeson1
@petegleeson1 9 ай бұрын
@@ForsgardPeter I don't think the camera can be made as good as it is and as small as it is and be weathersealed, but on a recent video kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooOsmnxnqZyte80si=XWUTgfatn-tQ7Y0Y Imo San hints there may be a new snap camera coming along so I guess we can all dream. I would Panasonic to update the GX9 as weather proof as well :)
@antonykyriacou8300
@antonykyriacou8300 9 ай бұрын
I’ve got one….it’s an excellent product….enjoy it.
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 9 ай бұрын
I have enjoyed my Ricoh GR IIIx. It is in my pocket where ever I go.
@martinsmyth5580
@martinsmyth5580 10 ай бұрын
I had that camera for 3 weeks. God, I hated it.
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 10 ай бұрын
Why didn' t you like it?
@jonbarnard7186
@jonbarnard7186 10 ай бұрын
I would be more than happy to give up 1/4 inch of thinness for the benefit of a tilting screen. That would be a very good improvement.
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 10 ай бұрын
I agree that a tilting screen would make it even better.
@petegleeson1
@petegleeson1 9 ай бұрын
I understand what you are saying, but the philosophy of the camera is to keep it small and free of things that could catch getting it out of a pocket. I find it very odd when people view such a unique camera and then say, it would be better if it was like other cameras? It is so small and works so well because of the design decisions. If it is not for you, fair enough. Weather sealing would also be challenging with the lens /shutter design. If it gets too wet put it in a pocket, it is not an OM5 with the 20mm f1.4 pro, even though that is a compact kit, it is huge compared to my Ricoh. Horses for courses
@jonbarnard7186
@jonbarnard7186 9 ай бұрын
I have owned 4 versions of this camera, from the small sensor days up to the GRIII. I understand the philosophy of the camera, but a camera is a tool, not an ideology or a religion. As such, some users will see room for improvement. It's a great camera now in my opinion, which could be better, but it is getting a little cultish. @@petegleeson1
@stevepage2369
@stevepage2369 10 ай бұрын
Yes Peter Agree 100% with you small cameras are amazing for street . .. . .The best camera you will ever own is the one you can take everywhere because you will use all the time and being invisible while taking your shot opens up so much more great opportunities . . . what a bonus
@marioplus321
@marioplus321 10 ай бұрын
History repeats itself. Does it mean the return of compact cameras ?
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 10 ай бұрын
Not sure if that is going to happen in a bigger scale.
@missti9012
@missti9012 10 ай бұрын
I also bought one about a month ago, still love my EM1 but this has been fun to use
@willgreig8912
@willgreig8912 4 ай бұрын
Another good video, I had the GR111 sent it back, normal AF and snap weren’t great. 2m, f8 shutter 500 but not great. How do you find this version.
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 4 ай бұрын
I find it very good. It is the same camera as GR3. The only difference is the lens. This one has a 26,1mm lens.
@buyaport
@buyaport 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Would I buy a GR IIIx? I have already got the GR III, and it is really unique because of its size, which is the same of the GR IIIx. But when I bought the Fuji X-T10 in 2015 I also got the 27mm Fuji lens, which I am still using on the Fuji X-T30 II. Ok, it is a larger and heavier camera. But with this "pancake" lens it is still pocketable. Plus it is you can get a similar sized 18mm lens for it, so you don't need to carry 2 cameras to cover these focal lengths -- not to mention dozens of other Fuji and non-Fuji lenses (some of them manual and very cheap). It also got an EVF and a tilting screen. All in all a much more versatile solution to consider before investing in a GR IIIx.
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 5 ай бұрын
I have prefered the 40mm lens for street photography. I would first use the Fuji combo and if that is too big for you then I might get the Ricoh GR3x.
@liciniooliveira-becas3618
@liciniooliveira-becas3618 10 ай бұрын
Yes... Many small things that should be better on the GR3 but it is a great camera. It is considerable sharper than both my Fujifilm X-T5 and X-T2. Battery and video are something the GR3 should be better.
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 10 ай бұрын
Yes, I agree that the battery life is not the best. Video I do not really need for what I got the camera for.
@martingreenberg870
@martingreenberg870 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. I just purchased a Ricoh GRiiiX. I’m trying to overcome the shortcomings you mentioned. For me the lack of VF is a problem. I opted for the X as the iii focal length of 28mm is too wide. 40mm is a more comfortable focal length for me. I like the quick start up time. I like the high contrast B&W jpegs. Of course a major draw is the size and weight. The lens is very sharp. Snap focus takes some getting used to. Glad the body has a touch screen so I have it set up for touch to focus and then take the picture. It is hard to believe Ricoh has squeezed in an IBIS into the body. Kudos. I don’t know if I like the GRiiiX. I’m giving it a try and hoping to like it. One good thing about the GRiii & X is the price hasn’t gone crazy like the X100V. There is a lot to like about this little guy. More will be revealed. A problem I have with this video is you haven’t spent a lot of time with this body yet. I’d be curious to hear how you are using and enjoying your GRiiiX after more use. I’m also curious to hear if you purchase a GRiii. Happy shooting with your new camera and have a happy & healthy New Year. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 9 ай бұрын
I thought that the lack of EVF would be really bad. It has changed my way of photographing. I have managed to use it slight different way than other cameras. I was thinking of getting an external evf for it. I have not yet, those are really expensive for they are. I know that I have only used it for a short time. I will make more content after I have more experience with the camera.
@j-marie4006
@j-marie4006 10 ай бұрын
1. I didn't even know that Ricoh was still in business. 2. Just yesterday I bought a point-and-shoot to be able to take everywhere anytime but was having doubts thinking it was like going backwards from the DSLR so I am very excited to see a professional using one.
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 10 ай бұрын
Ricoh is well and kicking. The only thing that matters is that you are satisfied with the camera you are using. If the results are pleasing then the camera is ok, no matter what others think.
@johnyutzey6504
@johnyutzey6504 10 ай бұрын
I'm a failure most of the time at street shooting involving human subjects -- too shy. But I do note that I can shoot my little Canon G5X ii in street and nobody pays much attention. Certainly much less than if I were shooting with a DSLR, even M43. So yes, I think these small cameras probably work quite well for street shooters, even if I am not particularly good at it.
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 10 ай бұрын
A small camera makes it easier.
@FierceSleepingDog
@FierceSleepingDog 10 ай бұрын
Nice little camera. I just bought the TG-7 as an everyday carry. The IQ is not in the same league as the Ricoh, but I like its compact size, ruggedness, and macro capabilities. I'd buy the Ricoh if it was more rugged. I love the idea of small cameras that you can put in your pocket and can take anything the environment throws at them.
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 10 ай бұрын
Ricoh GR IIIx is nice, but as you said it could be rugged.
@Jonahc-u6h
@Jonahc-u6h 8 ай бұрын
How would you compare the Olympus Pen E7 with the GRiii? Both have no ETF but in terms of user friendliness, ergonomics, bw images? Both fairly easy to use one-handed, right. I hv several GR’s but curious on your thoughts about the two… thanks Jim
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 8 ай бұрын
That is an interesting question. I think both are quite good for street photography. I did like Pen E-P7, when I tested it. It has some good feature like the flip screen which GR3 cameras do not have. E-P7 paired with a Panasonic 20mm pancake lens could make a good competition for Ricoh GR3x. GR3 cameras have some good features for street photographers like snap focus etc. I can also fit Ricoh GR3x in my front pocket of my jeans. So it is small and "invisible". Which one is better comes down to the needs and the type of photography one is doing.
@chrisbrown6432
@chrisbrown6432 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Peter. Very interesting. I look forward to more content from you using this camera. You have some excellent photographs you have shown us.
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 9 ай бұрын
Thanks.
@NeilCampbellRCM
@NeilCampbellRCM 9 ай бұрын
I love this camera mainly due to the form factor. I had the old version first and upgraded it last year to the 28/35mm version (yes there is a button you can switch between) WHY? I run most days and can easily carry this with me to combine my two hobbies.
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 9 ай бұрын
This model has ability to shoot 50mm or 71mm. Have not really used it, but I have assigned it to button. It will crop the image and if I understand correctly it is jpg only images.
@Milan-cf1xe
@Milan-cf1xe 9 ай бұрын
​@@ForsgardPeter With my Ricoh GR III it also saves the Raw Images cropped.
@Michael-fw5ef
@Michael-fw5ef 8 ай бұрын
The colours are amazing in that camera. Are those edited photos or unedited ones?
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 8 ай бұрын
I always edit my images.
@xmeda
@xmeda 9 ай бұрын
The sad part is, that GR cameras do like to inhale all the dust around and most users have dust on sensor. So I'm staying with XZ-2 for such "small camera in hand" purposes :) Or my EPL-6 with 25/1.7.
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 9 ай бұрын
I have heard that there is a problem with that. I have not had that problem. Interesting to see how long it takes to get dust on the sensor and if that will affect the image.
@michaellong9526
@michaellong9526 5 ай бұрын
Hi Peter got my GR3X about 6 months ago ,5000 pics later I love it. I use it mostly for my edc and best when out walking my dog and needing one handed use. I’m amazed at the sharpness of this lens and the variety of features in such a small package, ibis ND filter multi exposure snap focus touch screen etc. I did get a big dust spot within a month so added on the metal lens barrel thingy with a filter attached so no more issues.Wished I had done that first thing. Keep up with the good content👍😀
@bamsemh1
@bamsemh1 9 ай бұрын
Wouldn't you say you become the same photographer with this, than with the phone? Just better quality of course.
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 9 ай бұрын
No I do not think so. Phones are not ergonomically designed for photography. Maybe if I had an extra grip it could work. That is something I have thought about and might try someday. There is the battery issue. Phone is quite crucial in many other things too, especially when travelling.
@petegleeson1
@petegleeson1 9 ай бұрын
As a GRiii user I would say yes and no, I use a phone with two hands otherwise it flies out of my hand and that need to hold it like that, changes the way you experience photographing. The GRiii fits in my right hand starts extremely quickly at the touch of on button and then shutter button, my front finger is controlling aperture, thumb, exposure compensation all the time the camera is held securely. So I can reach it over a wall or round a corner hold it inches from the ground or over my head. Their is a fluidity in using it and of course the control of the image is more intuitively yours than with a phone. So you could get a grip for your phone and it would perhaps also work one handed and be more discrete, I know one person who never uses his lovely cameras now just his phone. Also personally I like that it is a camera and I am not distracted by notifications when on a photo walk I am in the zone, camera in my hand (in my pocket if the area looks a but dodgy) concentrating on seeing. If I want to make an image the camera is there intuitively and discretely. I think a phone shares the being more in the world aspect (rather than squinting in a viewfinder you are more looking at the world around you and the screen), and it has the discretion of a GR as lots of people walk around holding a phone so people ignore it.
@philmtx3fr
@philmtx3fr 10 ай бұрын
Hum… add an evf to it, add some water sealing, draw the price to less than 1k€ , call it GR4 and I will look at it :). At this stage I don’t t see a lot of advantage vs a good iPhone,
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 10 ай бұрын
I find it a lot better than using my phone. Ergonomics is much better. Adding those features would propably make it non-pockatable. With that the camera would loose something.
@philmtx3fr
@philmtx3fr 10 ай бұрын
@@ForsgardPeter As you tried it and Îdid’not, I believe you. I still find the price a little excessive for the specs as you can have an apsc reflex for that price with a good lens. But I agree the format is inbeatable :).
@_krakra_
@_krakra_ 10 ай бұрын
How did you decide between 28mm vs 40mm?
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 10 ай бұрын
40mm is the focal length I am used to in street photography.
@thetuskers1
@thetuskers1 10 ай бұрын
Great video Peter! I have the GR3, bought it few weeks back.. I still haven't got a complete hold of the settings or getting the right image feel out..in the future.. it will be great if you could do a settings or setup video.. for best output mainly for everyday carry... Many thanks!
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 10 ай бұрын
I will do a video about the settings as soon as I have time. Which one did you get, the28mm or the 40mm?
@thetuskers1
@thetuskers1 10 ай бұрын
@@ForsgardPeter I got the 28mm one Peter.. I was also thinking about the flexibility to crop later if needed rather having a closer focal length. But sometimes it's too wide 😀
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 9 ай бұрын
That is good point about the 28mm version. Cropping is one way of making the lens "longer".
@whipsnadepoacher
@whipsnadepoacher 9 ай бұрын
No weather sealing kills it for me. Love the idea, but it will die in rain.
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 9 ай бұрын
That was my main concern too. I managed to get aroukd with it in a heavy rain. It can be handled with one hand so the other hand was free to hold the umbrella. Yes, I agree that a weather sealed GR would be nice.
@whipsnadepoacher
@whipsnadepoacher 9 ай бұрын
@@ForsgardPeter Thanks for the reply Peter, I love your channel. I am still using 2 E M1 MkII cameras. As a photojournalist I find them tough as a tank. I may move to the MkIII in '24. Happy New Year. Be well. Keep Snapping.
@formermpc10
@formermpc10 10 ай бұрын
If spending money to buy additional gear changes your photography then you're not much of a photographer. As Peter said previously, you're just a consumer.
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 10 ай бұрын
I am not sure if you have actually watched the video or my other videos. This camera gives me new opportunities, like shooting with one hand from the hip. I am also less visible with this camera in my hand. People care a lot less about me photographing. I do get more candid shots where my presence is not interfering with what is happening. Does it automatically mean that I am good in shooting from the hip? No, of course not. My hit rate was not very high even though I got some nice images that I had not been able to get before. I have always said that try first a new style or genre with the existing gear. That is what I have done for a long time. If that is something you like to photograph, then see if there is equipment that might help in that style. That is exactly what I have done. I did shoot this style way back with a small compact film camera. If someone has never done street photography, the right way is to start with the existing gear. After a while and if that new genre is something one likes then it is maybe a time to look for gear that might suit that new genre better.
@petegleeson1
@petegleeson1 9 ай бұрын
Its not the spending the money, its using the camera, it will not make you better necessarily but it will give you a very different approach or it does for me. I use my GRiii one handed quite a bit, I take it places I might not shoot otherwise because it is discrete and can be put in a pocket. Because there is no flip up screen or viewfinder I shoot instinctively with it. It is not better than my M43 gear it is different. It is the camera I own that most “fits me”.
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 9 ай бұрын
I totally agree @petegeeson1.
@formermpc10
@formermpc10 9 ай бұрын
​​@ForsgardPeter I don't think spending money solves any problem. Peter, you acknowledged that talking about gear vs technique attracts more viewers, so I can see why you're promoting new gear. But spending a grand to make it easier to shoot from the hip? That's wasteful spending. It's your choice to work hard so you can buy new shiny things. It's not my money that's being wasted.
@Milan-cf1xe
@Milan-cf1xe 9 ай бұрын
Cameras are tools. Different tools give you different possibilities. Sometimes for a specific job you need a specific tool.
@duncanrae7504
@duncanrae7504 9 ай бұрын
I wish Ricoh would make a more inspirational shaped camera , they just don't say " pick me up & go shoot " like say Olympus / Fujifilm etc .
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 9 ай бұрын
I see this differently. I like to pick up Ricoh GR IIIx and go out photograph.
@r423sdex
@r423sdex 2 ай бұрын
No thanks ! Maybe weather sealing and 40 megapixel so that I can crop. That’s about it. We could also have a mono one, now then Ricoh.
@AbkenariFarang
@AbkenariFarang 10 ай бұрын
I have watched this video and the one before this right after each other and read many comments and your replies. I am sorry to say you are saying something but doing something totally opposite to what you just have said. That is probably not what you really want to do but that is how it feels after watching your videos and listening to your thoughts
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 9 ай бұрын
You mean that video about too many photography gear channels on KZbin? My point is that no gear will compensate the lack of skills in photography. But then gear can give us opportunities is another thing I have said many times. I got this becouse I want to carry a camera with me more. This fits in even in my jeans front pocket. Thjis camera also gives me the possibility to photograph people candid without need to hide. I can be invisible out in the open. If someone has never photographed street this camera won't help. One needs skills in street photography. Some of those skills has less to do with photography and some a bit more. I have also said that if you want to test a new genre try it with your excisting gear. After a whikle if taht genre seems something one likes then consider getting gear that suits that particular genre better. I am sorry if I have not made myself clear enough. I hope this explanation clears my views a bit.
@AbkenariFarang
@AbkenariFarang 9 ай бұрын
@ForsgardPeter hi Peter, thank you so much for taking the time to reply to my comments. I am no one to tell anyone including you to say what to do or not to do. But somehow your previous video about gear review and great acquisition and this video contradict each other. Probably I am wrong, but this is how I felt when I watched these two videos right after each other. But, I wish you lots of joy with your new camera. All the best from Denmark
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 9 ай бұрын
Yes I see what you feel. It is totally ok. If I had gotten a long lens for bird photography which I do not really photograph. That would be GAS. Stret photography is something I do a lot and Ricoh GR IIIx gives new opportunities to a craft I know. I knew what I was looking for.
@catrionathomson8981
@catrionathomson8981 10 ай бұрын
Are you a student of irony? It’s only three days since you produced a video asking why so much gear talk…
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 10 ай бұрын
Not really. I did say that I will be making those videos too, but less than usual. This was also more about haw a camera can change the way I photograph rather than the specs.
@catrionathomson8981
@catrionathomson8981 10 ай бұрын
On the positive side I do agree that an unobtrusive point and shoot can change one’s photography. I’ve changed mine by carrying the tg-6.
@RichardsModellingAdventures
@RichardsModellingAdventures 9 ай бұрын
Way over priced for what it is, a fragile dust monster
@ForsgardPeter
@ForsgardPeter 9 ай бұрын
I do not think it is that much over-priced. There is a high demand for this camera. If something has high demand it is not over-price. I agree that it is a lot money, but it has a lot of good features for street photographers. Those features actually help a lot. Have not really has any issues with the dust problem yet. I have had in my pocket all the time since I got it. Time will tell how much that will be an issue.
@r423sdex
@r423sdex 2 ай бұрын
What dust. I have had mine years. What dust.
@they-shoot-film-dont-they
@they-shoot-film-dont-they 9 ай бұрын
I have a GR11 &111 (28mm) ...pure street photography with 'sleuth'.... as you say, no one knows you have a camera , more a touristy-approach. The GR gets me into a different frame of mind when shooting . Part of it is due to no EVF, more iPhone-ish,...part of it comes from the Sleuth factor so your opportunity for different type of photo's is increases. Hip shoots, in and out shooting on the sly, one handed snaps with easy to manipulate exposure, live screen etc. Not good nor bad, just different sets of Fun Factors then my OM-D 5 Mark 111 & film OM1 and 2. .. Yet it lacks other fun factors that are unique individually, than my OM-D or Film cameras provide. So a trade-off and I don't use any of the cameras exclusively as it depends on the project I am working on, what I want to shoot, how etc.. Honestly though, it is hard to take a bad shot with a GR? A bit too easy; I find myself being a bit less creative in the process, but the images themselves are creative... if that makes sense. Yes, have that second battery.
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