It's Alive!!! Electrify your Chinese Sewing Machine Part 2

Adding a motor to the ol' hand-crank sewing machine part 2 "The Final Stitch."
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[@dc85337]

One tip that you can do - but not so easy to explain. Put a roller guide on an arm. It will hook over the top of the roller, then down to the sewing arm then a thumb screw holds it in place. It is set in a slot so that it can be moved in and out. Gives a side guide to keep stitches straight.

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

Thanks for that helpful tip!!

[@nickpolykandriotis8279]

That’s Amazing! Love it, I’ve used your videos to pretty much help me with everything related to theses machines and always thought it would be cool if they could be electric. I guess you were reading my mind. Anyhow, keep up the good work and I’ll stay tooned. Thanks

[@joesinakandid528]

When testing it remove the bobin and shuttle - Check. Remove the thread - Check. Both of those to stop a tangly mess - Check. REMOVE the needle to stop a bloody mess - OOPS. Also - that hand crank going roundy-round will eventually tangle you up in the flywheel - OOPS. Other than that --- great work and planning there. - Joe -

[@JohnCarter-eg4ws]

A lot of great information,I have one coming this week can’t wait use it,thank you !!

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

Thank you for the comment!! If you ever need any help getting your machine up and running send me a message.

[@JohnCarter-eg4ws]

Mainely Acres thanks,I got mine delivered today but I’m a hundred miles away at my moms till Christmas.I can’t wait till I get home to try it out.I’m new to leather working, your videos are by far the best on utube that I have found.I like the fact you’ve pointed out the problems I may run into and have a solution for the fix.I will definitely get in touch if I have any problems.I’m a retired tool and die maker/machinist so I have a little mechanical ability but no since reinventing the wheel when you have been there and done that,The first thing I’m going to do is go through it and smooth thing out that need it,thanks again i really enjoy your videos!

[@nilsperry7736]

AWESOME!!!

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

Thanks

[@hansmeier5536]

txs for your video, now I am ready to get one of my own

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

Any time!

[@kennethstansbury1129]

Looking to buy one of these Chinese Sewing Machines for leather work. Love the electric idea, and that will definitely be an added benefit... I have been in touch with Bantom Saddle and Tack for the machine... great idea... Great tutorials ...

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

Thank you for your comment and support

[@dirtmcgirt44]

Thank got my sewing machine today now I need to upgrade it

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

Right on!! 👍👊

[@NGinuity]

Think I'm going to do the same thing except I'm going to use a toothed belt and mill teeth into that wheel instead. I have a Sailrite Worker B package I upgraded to so I have the old AC motor and pedal I took off of it. Should be fairly easy with my small mill and indexing head. Worst case scenario is that I'd have to turn down the OD of the wheel a little to make sure the tooth spacing is even.

[@dajoker515]

That's a good idea good work, nice editing, the beginning was funny

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

LOL, Thanks for the comment!! Now you need to add some power to your machine!!

[@dajoker515]

Mainely Acres Yea I was thinking the same. How much would you charge to build one for someone ?

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

If I had my own machine shop I would charge about 50-60 $ to machine the flywheel, but I am not really set up to do these. It took my Dad and me about a week to complete the machining required to get the flywheel balanced and to cut the groove out. If you can find a local machine shop in your area, that would be your best bet. I wouldn't imagine that it would cost more than 80 dollars to machine your flywheel. Then the only cost left is the motor, everything else you could make yourself. I think it would be cool to design a motor mount that would be able to attach to the tripod, but that would require welding and some mounting trickery. LOL If you decide to do that let me know and I will look up some affordable motor options for you and I can even send you a belt to run the whole set up.

[@livwyr1967]

Hey There!... I think These ate really concise informative vids My friend...I am just unboxing mine and I just want to say all these tips are going to help alot .Surely is appreciated. Great Videos .

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

Awesome thank you!

[@billywinford4850]

Love it you can come to Oklahoma and fix mine up😃

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

If I ever go to Oklahoma I will make sure to stop by. 👍

[@yoheff988]

I have an idea for the nasty marking; coat the bottom of presser foot with silicon, I think it might work since the silicon has a rubbery feel to it, and it will probably grab well.

[@charlesreeves9577]

You can get better peddle control and comfort if you mount the peddle to use knee pressure also the belt tension should have an eighth inch of travel.that allows for torque flex at start up.

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

Thanks, I will give that a try.

[@jonhunter8725]

Mount your motor using a weighted hinged motor mount so the belt tensions itself

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

I have since done that, I took one of my wife's 5 LBS dumbbell and attached it with a rope. Your right it make this sett up a bit easier to work with. I plan on ordering a servo motor with better speed control, so I don't have to worry about over heating.

[@ireland66613]

Great series awsome thank you one question how do uou wire the foot pedal to the moter and the outlet thank you

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

The motor I was given came with the foot pedal and power cord attached. It came off a old singer sewing machine.

[@hansmeier5536]

also as somebody already suggested, put the motor on a swing arm that is adjusted by a threaded rod connected to the swing arm with a mowing joint. this is how the alternator etc. on old Jaguars is adjusted, basically one handed with a wrench!!

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

I am going to be updating my motor set up to a servo system.

[@overbuiltautomotive1299]

i think will use the new 29.00 harbor freight drill as it is geared down n a laptop is a good power supply if one not want to use batteries..good job man be blessed

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

That's a good idea, thanks for sharing.

[@jasonb4350]

You could still hand crank it for the back stitch for more accuracy and you can install a pedal stop in order to keep it running at a lower speed

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

That's what I have been doing with the motor I am currently running, but I am still thinking about upgrading to a servo motor. Thanks for the tip

[@jashton8710]

A worm drive system would give you scads of torque and control.

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

I agree!!

[@larryschmidt3594]

Add a spring under pedal to add some resistance.

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

I am going to try that, thank you so much for the tip.

[@chaosmagusgod]

Ok first.. thank you for all the work you are putting into this series. Great videos and are very helpful. That being said.. part one of this one.. completely not needed.. not to sound like an ass but by this point we dont need to see you grease the machine and if we dont know how to put the flywheel on by now, we need to just quit.. Sorry, I really liked part two although more info on where you got the motor etc may have been more useful.. just a thought.. Good work man keep it up.

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

I left the motor info in the description box below the video because I forgot to add it. I am still pretty green to KZbin and I do thank you for your comment

[@shirleymalar2773]

It must be nice to know everything about everything, but since I don't, I really appreciate all the detailed information I can get on this subject. I'm learning step by step from wonderful people who are willing to share their knowledge for free. Learning how to grease the machine and what to use to do it, as well as putting the flywheel on correctly was valuable information to me, as well as every other little detail that I'm sure you felt was useless information. And, for your information, just because I don't know something now, doesn't mean I'm going to quit. I've learned an amazing number of things from generous KZbinr's who have shared their skills and knowledge with people they will never know. And, for you chaosmagusgod, you DO sound like an ass!

[@buddyhutchins3782]

I am setting mine up with an old 1/2 hp ac electric drill motor using the existing finger speed control but indirectly through rods and a homemade hinge type foot pedal.. Wha'cha think? Anaco, Anz.

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

That's a good idea!! Whatever it takes to make sewing-life easier. LOL

[@SemperBarton]

How would you overcome the presser foot marks ?

[@marfealsantiago]

Hello, thanks for the video. I am planning of attaching a motor to my Chinese patcher, too, and so I came across your video. Can you give some specs of your motor? At least in terms of wattage? I have ordered a 100w motor and I’m not sure it could propel the machine. If not, I will have another for it and will then have to find something more powerful.

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

I made a video addressing your question, thank you for the video idea!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2bFfXt9qNFnpdk

[@sergioreynoso3058]

at start help with your hand is need it,,then the motor will do slow start,,is great anyway!!

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

Thanks for the tip

[@stewartvanmaarseveen6244]

How did you get the crank flywheel to hold the belt , mine is flat edged, did you take to a machine shop for this ?

[@ControlledWrinkles]

Swiss Army Knife scissors are so convenient aren’t they.

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

Heck yeah they are!! My dad bought me that knife when I was 13 and it's still going strong.

[@coburnlowman]

I was just looking and a clutch type sewing motor is $100.00 and up. That would be a much better motor than the little house wife machine motor. I have a Sailrite machine with the little motor that gets so hot that it locks up. I plan to get a clutch motor for it soon. Or after watching the videos on this little machine I might retire the Sailrite and get and put a clutch motor on of these slave labor made machines.

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

I have not had any issues with the small motor I am using freezing up, but your right a clutch motor would be ideal. I have a large clutch motor that a buddy of mine sent me, but it's for my Juki bar tack sewing machine that I need to get up and running.

[@CurmudgeonExtraordinaire]

The maximum speed seems a bit high and it seems to have a bit of difficulty overcoming the resistance of the leather when first starting off at a slow speed. You might want to consider adding a larger pulley to the flywheel (double the diameter of the pulley and you'll half the speed and double the torque). That might require a bit of a redesign of your table mounting for the sewing machine though since the pulley would have to go through your desktop, or mount it closer to the edge so that the pulley cleared the desktop, or go with another set of pulleys in combination with your existing one. The latter solution would allow you to get quite a bit more reduction in speed / increase in torque. It depends upon what you are comfortable with though. Personally, I like a sewing machine to go pretty slow when I'm sewing very thick materials since I'm less likely to break needles that way.

[@albertbranca4644]

Grumpy OldMan mood

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

I agree 100% That would defiantly make back stitching a breeze. Just need to find sometime to go to the local junk yard. Thank you for commenting!!

[@jerryhetland2682]

Did you cut a groove in your crank wheel for the belt?

[@joesinakandid528]

Yes he did - couldn't you see it???

[@MuskratOutdoors]

I just found out about these machines. Over all, do you like yours? I think I will buy one. I like your motor modification.

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

I love my machine!! Dang thing is tougher than nails and I have completed many projects with this machine. It will pay itself off in no time flat!!

[@MuskratOutdoors]

@@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks Good to know! You have sold me on it! I have a Singer 111W that doesn't sew right. I don't do a lot of light leather or canvas, so this looks perfect. Heavy leather, I have one of those hand crank Tippman's.

[@emmanuelgheusneaud9530]

What size belt is that. Where can I find the belt. Any modification to the cylinder. Thanks

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

No mods to the cylinder and the belt came off an old printer. The best belt to use would be a leather belt made to size

[@juanperales3351]

Could you tell me please the capacity of the motor ! And the diameter of the small pulley thanks!

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

The name is "Quality Sewing Machine Motor" and it came from an old Singer sewing machine. The motor is 115 Volts, AC/DC, 105 watts and the model number is 174667 E-RP. The pulley is a inch and a half

[@shirleymalar2773]

I'm thinking I might be able to buy this machine (my only chance to ever have a machine that sews leather) and adapt it to my old Singer treadle machine cabinet. When Singer made these machines the pulleys were on the end, rather than the flywheel on the front and it appears that if that were still the case it would be fairly straight forward to simply lengthen the belt to make the machine run. Speed and control would be manual thru the foot pedal. Awesome! I'm not familiar with the mechanics of pulleys so maybe you can offer some suggestions as to how to set up a pulley configuration that can use the existing pulley location on the front and drive the machine by the manual foot pedal plate. Are there pulley set-ups that make a 90 degree angle? Or, with the very slow speed of the manual pedal sewing, is there any option of a creative belt configuration? Thank you for any suggestions you may be able to share. I have loved this series of videos, and they have given me hope that one of these days I might actually be able to sew leather on a machine! :o)

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

I would suggest running a servo motor set up. That way you don't have to mess around with pulleys.

[@frododavis9082]

to get a 3 to 1 gear reduction, buy a 2'' pulley and a 5'' pulley, and 2 pillow block bearings

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

Thanks for the tip!!

[@mingo5435]

Too much belt tension causes the motor to work nard to overcome that and when it does start, there it goes with too much power. Just lighten the belt tension and you should be good to go.

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

Thank you so much for letting me know I was a bit worried I over tightened the belt.

[@FossilCleric]

mine just came and there are no tension springs on my bobbin carrier. any solution? It sews, but there's a ton of slack in the stitching

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

You will need to buy a replacement spring or you can make one from the safety on a Bic lighter. Here is a link if you want to buy one: www.bantamsaddletack.com/Spare-tension-clip-screw-for-Patcher-Sewing-Machine-shuttle-hook_p_52.html

[@uncledolchannel3223]

the thread always breaking while sewing. is there any solution

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

The top thread or bottom?

[@stevenhatfield1961]

Couple questions. You gave specs on the motor but going back I cant find the spot. Is it 100 watt or 150 watt? If no watts listed how about amps? And do you feel it works fine on very thick leather as in does it have enough power? Are you still using the set up with the motor? Thanks...

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

Hey Steven, the motor is 115 Volts, ACDC, 105 watts and the model number is 174667 E-RP.) What leather weight/thickness do you consider very thick? I have used my set up to sew two layers of medium weight (5-6 ounces) leather. I think the motor is sturdy enough to handle thicker leather, but you would want to get your hands on a good v belt. I use old belts from printers and they don't last too long. Yes, I still us the same set up. I am going to be hemming some rain suit bottoms tonight.

[@stevenhatfield1961]

@@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks thanks for the information. I've not seen any stitcher videos using the motor after you produced one where you finished adding the motor. I did decorative leather work as a teenager. I am now retired and going to dive back in. I also sew so I feel the sticher you are demonstrating will be perfect for me. Based on your answer I think I am going with the 150 watt sewer motor motor with a foot pedal. Add a simple rpm restrictor to limit the speed. Use an automotive serpentine type belt. Keep up the good work. Love the videos.

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

Yeah, I have been slacking on getting out new sewing videos. I have been pretty busy with my industrial hemp processing. I plan on getting some more sewing videos up this summer. Do you have a Facebook account? If so there's a group of people that run and modify these Chinese machine to run on foot pedal and motor set up's (facebook.com/groups/1646031288779869/). They would be super helpful when it comes time for you to modify your machine. You sound like your on the right track with that 150 watt motor with foot pedal. Thank you for your comment and best of luck to you in returning to leather crafting.

[@anthonyrosa5006]

That setup requires a certain amount of torque to overcome the drag in the machine. You have to start fast to get enough torque, Get a high torque low speed motor.

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

I agree!! I am playing around with a clutch motor and some pulley's currently and if I can't get that to work I am going with a servo motor set up.

[@Traderhood]

Hi. What’s the length of the belt you are using? Thanks.

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

I am using a belt that came off a junk printer, I will measure it and get back to ya.

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

The belt measures 15 inches folded in half and 3/16 wide. You could get away with using a belt that is shorter, but you will need to mount the motor closer to the machine. I had these belts laying around, so I made my mount work with the size belts I had.

[@frododavis9082]

add a jack shaft and 2 pulleys ,,to slow that critter down.

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

I agree!! It's hard to control this little motor. I am thinking about upgrading to a servo motor.

[@dasfluxmusic]

Very cool. Except god damit man. I work in furniture, did you have to screw that in from the top. That table dont look destroyed. lol

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

The table was a side of the road find, so I was not too worried. LOL

[@frododavis9082]

what is the shaft size on the sewing machine hand crank?

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

I am not sure, but next time I take my machine apart I will measure it and get back to you.

[@frododavis9082]

@@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks Dont bother, I just received the Enduro 550 watt servo. I removed the 3'' pulley and put a 1 1/2'' on. While i wait for the patcher to arrive

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

Good deal!! Those servo motors are the way to go!!

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

Here is the size on that shaft: The original (CLSP) drive shaft is based on a 12mm shaft just a little over 4.6 inches long.

[@frododavis9082]

Had a new shaft machined, 4'' longer, added a 12'' pulley and a motor ''It's ALIVE!!" Marry Christmas Harrison From my Family To yours

[@haylspa]

think your going to have to upgrade your motor if you want more control.. problem is that it don't have enough power at low speed operation so it forces you to get heavy on the foot peddle, by the time it has enough power to punch through it is going to fly through it!! in large you have the wrong motor here these older motors did not have a lot of torque at low speed operations

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

You are absolutely correct. The motor I mounted works if you baby it, but a servo motor is the way to go. Plus that dang peddle gets way to hot when I trying to baby it.

[@mattivirta]

pedal not can adjust good speed, you bush pedal motor run too fast alltime, need better speed controller, maybe DC motor and PWM controller, or adjust flyfeel ig to bigger or motor shaft to smallen wheel.or better if have gear, one or 2 wheel more can change speed lot down, motor can run fast but flywheel run slowen lot. AC or DC motor have problem run good slow speed. gear have best think make drop speed little more. variator ,same than automatic scooter gear have best,

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

I agree, this is not an optimal set up. Just how I did things with the stuff I had kicking around. If I was going to buy a set up I would go with a servo motor and mount it differently.

[@deankay4434]

Just use the motor out of the wifes dryer. Then give her a clothes line to hang the clothes on to dry. Tell her someone broke into the house and the only thing they stole, was the dryers motor. Then sew a cover for the motor so she can't see it, just larger so it has room for get cool air. It get it, but DC requires a battery as the amperage required is to large for an A/C transformer with a rectifier, smoothing caps, while the PWM board can be purchased line, a dumpster dive will get you and old sewing machine motor for free. Plus the dryer will still work...in the winter! :)

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

I do not condone the re-purposing of the wife's dryer motor. (Yes, my wife made me write that!!) LOL