It's all about that sweet sweet Hollywood money, screw the viewers

[@zugi]

KZbin removing 'thumb down' number few years ago. Same shit.

[@Kridian01]

Gatekeeping the truth never sets well. The internet is unstoppable!

[@martinh8784]

There is a "Dislikes in KZbin" add-on for all mainstream browsers, and the "thumb downs" are back. I am using it - it works as described.

[@VADemon]

@@martinh8784 The more people use it the more accurate it is. I have it on mobile too with Revanced (locally patched youtube app to include all the good stuff).

[@PhantomFilmAustralia]

To see a low score, you know it's bad. To see the low score has been removed, you know it's worse than how bad you thought it was.

[@chriskelly509]

Exactly 💯

[@YarugumaSou]

Audience score you mean. And even that got botted by disney.

[@stub4488]

1984 =2024 ...censorship is alive an well.

[@tomas.zentrich]

If 'The Acolyte' was so good, why was it cancelled? 😄

[@MalefaxTheBlack]

Rotten Tomatoes is useless garbage anyways... I get my reviews from KZbinrs for the rare time I actually think about seeing a movie.

[@ozsteamer2755]

"Rotten Tomatoes is useless garbage anyways." *Now they have added a new trick: Rotting Tomatoes are useless **_woke garbage_* (Yeah, spelling intentional)

[@Thor-Orion]

@@ozsteamer2755what?

[@katarn848]

Its still one of sites with most data on films so far I get it . The scoring and reviews are waist of time for last decade releases.

[@jessejames8900]

​@@katarn848IMDB for me.

[@ozsteamer2755]

@@Thor-Orion *Look, people have been accusing Rotting Tomatoes of not adding anything new* They have: they added wokeness to the already bad stuff they are doing.

[@shaunpatrick8345]

I'm so disconnected from Hollywood by all the bad films they've made that I no longer consider new releases to be public events, or products in any sense. They're just new things for Critical Drinker to pull apart, and that's my entertainment.

[@albert-gf6qf]

The "drinker" is the man when it comes to movie reviews.

[@kni9ght]

He’s one of the greats

[@jefreahard9165]

Same. It really illustrates how unessential Hollywood (and really every entertainment business) is. If they can be replaced by a guy talking into a mic with no budget, they literally have no value.

[@pigpuke]

It's bigger than just Hollywoke, all American TV and movies are absolute trash the last 20 years. I got comic book movie fatigue in the '90's when they wouldn't stop with the absolute garbage Batman movies.

[@electrictroy2010]

@pigpuke 20 years of TV trash? Well I gotta disagree with that. I liked Farscape and Battlestar Galactica and Stargate and The Expanse. How I met your Mother was funny… so was Big Bang theory .

[@jeffjones7108]

It isn't even about money. It's about sending The Message.

[@rocket_scientist5353]

Lying is so common place now, it's destroying everything.

[@michelguevara151]

feminism normalized this crap "pay gap", "patriarchy" et c.

[@muhdiversity7409]

Have you noticed that all this dystopian garbage almost always stems from something that has women in it or women being the prime movers in the decision making. Is it any surprise?

[@Agent1W]

John 8:32 ought to be tattooed on our brain noodle. The truth shall indeed we know, and be freed thereby.

[@vincei4252]

@@michelguevara151 Pretty much.

[@garyfrancis6193]

What I have been thinking lately. Everything is fake: news, history, celebrities, politicians, food,consumer products, relationships even the names of celebrities you know. That’s not their real names. Everything is a lie. Yet if you say that the deluded sheep will shout you down. They want to believe the lies.

[@dantesinfernopurgatory7826]

If they don't allow reviews, don't watch the movie. Problem solved.

[@hyperteleXii]

Just like youtube removed dislike count. All part of the same "let's not shame anyone for anything they do", straight outta Satan's playbook.

[@Serahpin]

Stop being an anti-semite.

[@calvinhobbes6118]

Its not removed. Its hidden. You can download an extension that shows it again.

[@Serahpin]

Where'd my comment go? Is it hidden or actually gone gone.

[@KnightofAges]

​@@calvinhobbes6118 that's not exactly how the extension works. Not sure about the exact procedure, but it doesn't have access to the real numbers - it extrapolates the dislikes using other means.

[@mitchd949]

@@calvinhobbes6118 the extension only shows dislikes at the vid level. It doesn't show dislikes at the comment level.

[@middle_digit]

RT lost any credibility years ago.

[@Raptor-y9f]

If it's a new release, assume it's hot woke garbage until proven otherwise by a trusted source. The Critical Drinker being one of them.

[@Thor-Orion]

Critical Drinker is great for reviews because he’ll tell you when he was expecting a woke pile of garbage and the movie ended up being okay.

[@peerpede-p.]

I use to check "The Critical Drinker", he just nails it...

[@JohnS-il1dr]

CEO of RT was a an exec at Disney. Kinda suspicious.

[@michelguevara151]

there seems to be a 'pass the communist CEO' game being played

[@starguy2718]

There are no coincidences.

[@Livitt351]

Doctor Disaster also a great channel for honest and entertaining reviews

[@youdodat2]

F Hollywood.

[@Jedda73]

Good movies are a bygone era. I dont care what they do with the review sites, because I wont be going to see the vast majority of the garbage being pumped out now.

[@ibubezi7685]

I have about 1.000 movies lined up - 98% pre-2010 (more or less). Many will disappoint, yet, I'm willing to give them a try - unlike the 'modern' stuff, as they are guaranteed to suck (and I'm not into super-hero nonsense anyway).

[@dan_pal]

When the acolyte received 80% I completely stopped trusting them

[@KnightofAges]

What took you so long?

[@80sNewWaveGeek]

I stopped trusting them after the high critics reviews of 'TLJ'

[@dan_pal]

@@KnightofAges it was still useful for old movies

[@BReal23-qm8hs]

IMDB got rid of the message boards years ago because user were criticizing the studios, films, and celebrities.

[@calvinhobbes6118]

Yeah that sucked, but at least it has one composite rating and not two.

[@PainReaverX2]

I haven’t went to ‘Rotten Tomatoes’ for years because of things like this. That’s why I go to Google reviews or KZbin.

[@Thor-Orion]

I wouldn’t use google reviews either, frankly. Alphabet is a nefarious actor in our culture, they’re shady and manipulative propagandists.

[@Scylithen]

And nothing of value was lost

[@Shadow31ex]

Alien, Tomb Raider.

[@leandrolaporta2196]

Rotten tomatoes is done after this, nobody will trust them anymore

[@ForDemoPurposesOnly]

The first major change I noticed on RT was when Captain Marvel came out in 2019. It also didn’t help when YT hid the dislikes because of Kathleen Kennedy and Star Wars. We are onto them and they know it, but they’re in too deep to change back.

[@muhdiversity7409]

Have you noticed that all this dystopian garbage almost always stems from something that has women in it or women being the prime movers in the decision making.

[@UltimaterializerX]

They removed the dislike button because the White House channel was getting slammed after Biden was installed.

[@floycewhite6991]

@@muhdiversity7409 It started long ago when the tiny hats used their money from porn flicker shows to buy up one studio after another.

[@buckybuck1820]

It started way before then. The online censorship really began when Amazon bought IMBD right around the election of Trump. They promptly deleted the user forums. Their reasoning was it was “too toxic”. Soon other companies quickly followed suit, and removed user review and discussion forums themselves. They also changed their rating formula, and came out with their own special one. Netflix got rid of their rating system and changed to a thumbs up and down. Reddit began banning comments and users. The other Holllywood review sites took note, and copied IMDB. Twitter, KZbin, and Facebook began censoring soon after. They all colluded to silence Alex Jones, who was the canary in the coal mine. Their reasoning was because he bullied another reporter. This all happened shortly after Trump was elected. The true reason they did all this had nothing to do with bottom lines or any other reason they claimed. It was about protecting and expanding their power. It’s why they strategically eliminated all the most effective, well spoken anti-establishment voices first by applying the new rules (ism’s) to them. They then propped up more extreme voices and painted them as on the side of the anti-establishment, therefore turning off regular people to the movement altogether. Now the same thing the anti-establishment voices were warning about pre 2016 is coming to pass. They have taken out their biggest enemies, and now they are coming for the normals and their own. That’s why so many people are just now waking up. They should have defended Alex Jones when they had the opportunity. First they come for them, and then they come for you. That’s what corruption does. It has no allegiance to any group or anyone but themselves.

[@RustCole01]

What's interesting is, these same people who cry about review bombing use even more sinister methods to try and manipulate the algorithm. There are a lot of creators that have posted analytics that show an increase in subscribers when they haven't put out a recent video. Then when they post a new video, a bunch of those new subscribers suddenly downvote and unsubscribe, which can tank a video on the algorithm. It seems to be targeted at smaller channels that have recently gone viral or grown in popularity. It's pretty wild that they will devote that level of commitment to silence people they find offensive.

[@Ed19859]

Its like in 2007 when the credit agencies were giving out triple a ratings on the mortgage bonds before everything crashed 😂

[@limitlesspotential9599]

We need to move away from these terrible platforms. They die or change with lack of attention

[@ab62051]

@@NicholasPeters1 Key Word WAS (past tense)

[@williamoneil9787]

I had gotten used to going to RT, but I never ever read the critics reviews, I always went to the audience reviews when they added that feature. That's when they cared about balance. They knew that lot of people didn't trust the "professional reviewers", and for good reason. The "professional" reviews were waaaaaay off. You wondered if they saw the same movie as you did.

[@kpsk8031]

Of course, they won't do anything against critics who give high scores for access, a giftbag or fifty bucks. That would harm the industry.

Wokellywood is sinking like the Titanic, slowly but surely. Soon enough, they will close as most of their movies, like the coming D.O.A. Snow White, will be massive financial losses. Good riddance.

[@autoproblematic5800]

“A giftbag or 50 bucks”; that’s not true. They also bribe them with cocaine and underage girls and boys.

[@shannoncraig509]

"No dissent will be allowed"- NPC machine

[@Speed.Racer.5]

Rotten Tomatoes has been useless for years. The critic score has always been useless, but they continue to push that like it means something.

[@Winterascent]

Corruption is how these corporations stay alive, today.

[@scottmcloughlin4371]

USA movie attendance peaked in 1933 and declined to flat line in the 1960's. The most popular hours of TV aired in the 1950', 60's and early 70's. Hollywood will never "recover." No chance. Paramount just shut down their Paramount TV studio operations. There is no "pop culture" in the USA. Broadcast mass media novelties were never "culture" anyways.

[@SnoopyReads]

Tell that to people whose identity is based around a movie or TV series you dolt. Everyone is watching something on their phone, that's the culture

[@saleth9]

Did everyone forget what they did for Captain Marvel on RT and metacritic?

[@sunso1991]

This will be a seld inflicted headahot The review also drives engagement and site visit. Now they are just walling it off turning it into propaganda broadcast. Significantly fewer people would go to rotten tomato. Cratering the site

[@qatestbrian1]

Welcome to the propaganda machine.

[@Bullitt3401]

RT just rendered itself 100% pointless now. That's amazing. lol.

[@jerryc5743]

6:38 - the terminator movies.

[@xenxu26]

Farewell 1st amendment. Censorship is rampant.

[@John_Caravella]

Rotten Tomatoes is that kid who's losing the game bigly, so he gets mad, cries, then takes his ball home with him so that nobody can play.

[@starguy2718]

KK complains to Bob Iger about review bombing, Bob Iger picks up the phone, tells RT to cut it out, RT takes a knee. "Connect the dots".

[@dansemacabre6515]

Any RT-rated movie loved by fans & hated by critics was always great. Forbidding the fanbase from criticising proves ALL their films will be garbage now

[@bullmoose5574]

I stopped looking at RT after 2016

[@BlahBlah-l4c]

It's amazing that they keep producing entertainment that the majority can't stand. Bankruptcy is the only path forward.

[@catfacepoetry3211]

Someone can make rotten cheese to replace rotten tomato XD

[@raketensven3127]

Mouldy cheese?

[@ralpha.2023]

Because they would review bomb, they presume that people that see things differently than them would also do it.

[@josueveguilla9069]

Who else doesn't trust or take Rotten Tomatoes seriously? Raise your hand 🙋

[@DJ-Krimson-Steele]

🙋

[@brandongray1059]

The correct response is to just not go to that website again. I stopped going there after they edited the Captain Marvel score back in 2019 - once they did that you knew you could no longer trust the scores.

[@sgtb3691]

I don't know anyone who went to that site for the critic reviews. Another trash business is done.

[@1OnlyGot7]

Funny they had no problem giving Kevin James under 20% practically half the movies he was in

[@VidyaBros1]

To be fair, some of his movies are okay and others are not very good. Btw I saw him in person last night at a Mike DelGuidice concert. He got him to sing on stage with him because they're friends, so that was cool.

[@ARC1701A]

But...how will we know what we are supposed to like without the Party telling us!?

[@alexandersims1613]

Interesting...a change a couple weeks before "am I racist?" comes out...

[@Chu6um]

I've used those 'official ratings' to show: If critics rated high = trash; If critics trashed it = worth seeing. Then again, the way 'entertainment' that's been shoved out these past years made me quit going, mostly being worthless and expensive. If I want to see it, I'll wait until it's streaming.

[@pigpuke]

I've hated "critics" ever since those two dullards, Siskel and Ebert in the 80's. Everything they said was good was crap and everything they said was crap was brilliant.

[@pehclark7256]

Clownfish tv is pretty good at spotting those woke Disney movies.

[@malcomyoung2240]

It's like what an UE politician said: "The only problem in democraty is the people who vote, we should decide among us for them". Yeah, consume the product, even if its shit, get excited, gorge yourself with it, and get hyped for the next product.

[@Arthirias]

Solution is to stop giving movie company your money. Do it before they adapt.

[@vovin8132]

IMDB did the same thing a decade ago by eliminating its messageboard.

[@calvinhobbes6118]

Yeah, but everyone gets an equal rating vote. Not one for critics and one for us, the unwashed masses.

[@fritzrue]

People still go to movies?

[@spot_of_tea53]

Truth, Justice, and the American way. -Frog Brothers

[@GoingMyOwnWay917]

Hollywood has become a bad joke.

[@stefanvanraemdonck6116]

So in short, completely unreliable. And people will go to imdb etc for reviews and rotten tomatoes will go bankrupt. And then what? The fault of toxic fans? People go to a site like that to view everyday honest reviews (no journalists) They got a good thing going and selfdestruct over politics 🤷‍♂️

[@prototype9904]

Rotten Tomatoes: The Name Checks Out ✅

[@jefreahard9165]

Oh no, anyway. Back to trusted youtubers.

[@OmariusHLD]

anything in US Media about the newest knif attack s in germany ?

[@ozsteamer2755]

*Nothing in Australia, haven't seen anything about it on US news feeds (the few I pay attention to)*

[@dermagnus8482]

​​@@ozsteamer2755here in germany it is already sugar coated again.

[@ozsteamer2755]

@@dermagnus8482 *That was quick*

[@ErazerPT]

Sigh... I hate getting old... I was youg when RT came up. You know what made RT valuable vs say IMDB? It was honest. THAT was the value proposition. By taking this route, they dig their own grave, because while it can make for a short term profit, it ruins their long term value. And if they don't have value, then the "grease money" stops coming. And then it ends. Talk about shooting your own feet. Anyway, it's not like they can't be replaced, after all their "good model" was an easy model. Put the movie in, let people vote on it. Done. "Curating", aka doctoring, results is the hard part that costs money thus, anyone with a lill spare $$$ to invest can setup up something like they used to be and expedite their demise. You don't need "critics" anyway, they're mostly pandering dim bulbs so who cares...

[@gatovillano7009]

at 6:32, ghost in a shell, the 5th element, resident evil, blood, the grudge, the ring, silent hill, the 1st terminator, run lola run

[@TheMaleRei]

The list of films that is "Verified Hot" is pretty wild... Lots of duds thrown in...

[@namegoeshere2903]

😂 Movie rating website removes rating system....no purpose now. 🤪

[@alejandropacheco7832]

We're supposed to forget that critics were caught red-handed receiving kickbacks from studios...

[@HereWashThis]

This is peak “everybody gets a trophy.” I guess we shouldn’t be surprised.

[@CollegeDroputPowerpoints]

We can all rejoice because we never have to visit that place ever again

[@johnqpublic9074]

Man like youtube removing the thumbs down, watching a video get ratioed was entertainment in its self.

[@michelguevara151]

rotten tomatoes is just rotten now people will ignore their paid reviews I foresee many hollyweird films tanking entirely because of this "oh look, no one who isn't a paid shill is reviewing this, it must be woke trash"

[@martinkunz7155]

"When you cut out a man's tongue, you don't prove he's wrong - you only prove that you're afraid of what he has to say"

[@chowfun3243]

What dud don't they want people to negatively review this time.

[@leadmagnet5309]

I think the traffic on rotten tomatoes will decrease, but not stop entirely. Oftentimes I look on critics score and if the critics give the movie/series a high score, than I know, that it will be a stinking pile of s*it.

[@FD2003Abc]

When people and (especially) bots give show undeserved 10s, it is called "reverse review bombing."

[@stub4488]

The UK clowns are coming to our town! Bit by bit.

[@DraxxDarlok]

It's not like anyone goes there to see reviews anyway, you can't trust a word they say.

[@HectorDiabolucus]

Amazon removed ratings too

[@DrownedBat]

It won't matter.

[@JosephOlson-ld2td]

"Fly Me to the Moon" more accurate than myth > "Perplexing Apollo Questions for NASA" at principia-scientific

[@johnnyphesto1247]

I remember they used to have the “will you see this movie in theatres?” And because Captain Marvel had like 30% yes, they said the movie was being review bombed. Then Rotten Tomatoes just removed the question.

[@gmanlive5764]

Everything that Disney touches turns to shit

[@emdo.unlimited555]

The KZbin algo is really working hard when it thinks Kamala Harris and Tim Walz ads will be effective on Joker's channel

[@buckybuck1820]

The headline should read, “Rotten Tomatoes removes user reviews to protect Hollywood Elite bottom lines”.

[@dantheman9135]

Crush on

[@impudentdomain]

So what I want to know is there another user-review site out there for movies ?

[@olyviermonteau4300]

if you only care about the money and not the hand, then, hollywood, you shouldn't care that the hand disappears, right? just find another way to make money. should be simple, no?

[@fmills1583]

The only way to beat the system is to avoid movies, all movies. Avoid streaming services, all steaming services.

[@GabrielBoorom]

So basically, they became Netflix.

[@greglee1174]

Other than old movies, I don’t watch movies anymore. They don’t make movies for people like me. I discovered this years ago and I’m happy with it.

[@ullopincrate]

So there is zero point in going to RT. There really wasn’t before this, but, now there no point at all

[@CashKingMarcus]

That’s insane. A movie review website that doesn’t show you the score and the reviews until everybody has seen the movie and left the review. It means it’s completely worthless now.

[@ibnkhaldoun4319]

they're super butthurt the acolyte failed, huh?

[@TorontoJon]

Funnily enough, I've NEVER had any respect for or any use for Rotten Tomatoes or referred to its critics' or audiences' scoring of movies or TV series to decide what to watch. :)

[@cirescythe]

Reviewbombing is a non issue. Both sides can do that and both sides do. If one side does tip the scale that much its still a good way to see that there are issues with a product.

[@raketensven3127]

Site is irrelevant since authentic reviews are on yt. It's much better to get a review from someone, you know has the same taste. RT, or at least their rating system has been irrelevant for a while already. Nobody cares about this stuff, I wouldn't even know, if YTer's wouldn't make videos about it.

[@markadler8968]

I haven't been on that site for at least 10 years. If I want a review there are endless channels that review any movie I might consider watching.

[@associatealpha1166]

Take screen shots of all scores on woke movies…. then check how much higher all the scores will be after they implement this

[@BrainstormJr2nd]

Rotten Tomatoes was never a reliable source anyway, they give good scores to bad movies/TV shows and crap on good movies/TV shows.