IT'S BROKEN... SURPRISE!!! - LOSAT in War Thunder

The LOSAT in War Thunder is the top reward for the Tokushu Heiki event. The LOSAT is a US Tank Destroyer that uses a kinetic energy missile to overcome the enemies armour making it one of the most unique vehicles in the game.
Unfortunately, it's VERY buggy right now. So, today... we're going to test it in the live servers! Is it any good? Debatable! Could it be better if it was fixed? Definitely!
As far as missile tanks go this is definitely not the worst in the game. The only thing letting it down is its poor elevation and of course the wobbly missiles. If this gets fixed, it could definitely be pretty decent on some longer range maps!
Is the LOSAT worth it? We're going to find out! :)
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[@jayp.8360]

The biggest upside of this vehicle is the sheer hilarity of the killcam when an APFSDS round the size of a telephone pole just sheers through the tank

[@TheTeehee11111]

And the very little shrapnel that accompanies it compared to its size...

[@jameshopkins5702]

Doesn’t work in the game. Everything that was on the test track that made you want this vehicle is absolutely the opposite when you get it into real battle. It doesn’t penetrate armor anything like it does on the test track another trick by gaijin.

[@pikantoz7146]

​@@jameshopkins5702how are the vehicles in the testing track in any way different from the vehicles in an actual match..?

[@jameshopkins5702]

@@pikantoz7146 well, you would know that if you would’ve tested it before you unlocked it, the missiles flew completely straight. They had no curvature in the vehicle fired on the move and it also didn’t roll back-and-forth like a boat.

[@ZzVinniezZ]

Dont forget it should obliberate any tanks with it massive ass telephone pole and yet some time it only kill 1 crew man

[@YeEpIkAiYeI]

Gaijin trying to NOT release anything in a broken state that makes it look unfinished: Impossible

[@snek1557]

If it's not Russia then it ain't getting finished

[@YeEpIkAiYeI]

@@snek1557, unless it benefits said russian/soviet vehicle.

[@komisiantikorupsikoruptord6257]

​@@YeEpIkAiYeIit's easier to make something you see every day. (75% countries used Soviet tanks)

[@mywafflebroke6874]

shhhh, let them act like they know anything about document release orders and export projects/blueprints being open to the public.@@komisiantikorupsikoruptord6257

[@michaelmclaughlin4488]

Well the missiles should actually be more accurate since the targeting system in real life could fire at two tanks simultaneously and the missiles should fly a bit straighter off launch

[@ErulianADRaghath]

Also the X-Ray shots is bugged. It shows the whole missle penetrating the vehicle instead of the internal dart. Quite the comical sight tbh

[@Three60Mafia]

Just a huge log failing to pen vehicles, nothing to see here.

[@ErulianADRaghath]

@@Three60Mafia "We fire the whole bullet! That's 65% more bullet per bullet!"

[@arthurkal5892]

It's not bugged it's just not modeled that the missile itself gets destroyed on impact, it's not like the dart detaches midair

[@extraordinarytv5451]

Need it

[@Kraus-]

This missile really shows how much the netcode bugs up all the missiles. The nerf to missiles from a few months ago wasn't supposed to make them as bad as they are in a live match. The predictive guidance needs to be dampened a lot. Might make it slightly harder to hit evasive targets, but a lot easier to hit nonmoving targets.

[@gavinlightfoot5521]

The physical missle model really messed up fast atgms.

[@johnib5905]

Damped is exactly right. It should actually make it much easier to hit moving targets, since even a basic PID controller is going to critically damp the oscillation very effectively.

[@thepeacockk]

Yeah even missiles like the ACRA are wobbly

[@Majorgrief]

I'd love to see you and Spookston in a collaboration again. I always enjoy when you have too much fun!

[@fenfrostpaws2000]

I'd love to see Spookston and Phly sometime

[@cheesetownboatrepairmainte2101]

You didn’t hear about the falling out?

[@BioXenoArrow]

@@cheesetownboatrepairmainte2101Elaborate.

[@tylerlane4587]

​@@cheesetownboatrepairmainte2101wait who had a falling out?

[@WTCheatShaming]

@@cheesetownboatrepairmainte2101 Proof. Trust me bro

[@tikityler1386]

They actually seem to have updated the launch trajectory today where it pops up a little first. Yesterday it did not do that for me and its made it more reliable at range and even stranger at close range.

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

Yeah the missile comes out the tube going basically Mach one but gaijin is braindead so the missile acceleration and burn time is completely scuffed alongside the tracking

[@CecilioSprayetti]

I like how it had the problem of the missile dipping when it fires which in reality, it didn't do, the round flew straight as an arrow after launch and they fixed it by instead making the arrow arch UP when it fires lmao

[@Mach-2-Fishbed]

So we get F-100 with less gun, the missile that doesn't know where it is, low tier AGM, and a ship I'm certain the 3 people that get it will certainly do something with. Can't say I'm all that upset about missing this event.

[@eaglemach9992]

The actual crafting event is RNG as well, you get " defective " parts that nearly resets your progress in crafting.

[@stillcantbesilencedevennow]

Snail strikes again. Can't wait until the "player base" consists of the youtubers gaijoob floats along and ONLY the KZbinrs.

[@multimemer5317]

@@eaglemach9992no it’s not the first 2 missiles are always faulty and the third is always good pretty sure. No rng as you say

[@stillcantbesilencedevennow]

​@@multimemer5317that's even worse, as it's an artificial dam to prevent you from reaching the goal. Not RNG "crafting chance", but rather just something purely to frustrate you and your efforts even more so than the soul crushing grind this game demands.

[@chlepek6944]

​@@stillcantbesilencedevennowthat's not worse LOL. It is no different from other events. Sure, in other events you had to craft 1 thing and here 3, but it is multiple times easier to craft, so it is kinda even in the end

[@bandit107]

I don’t know if anyone has noticed but the ground RP gains seems to be lessened. I got 11 kills 2 assists and only got about 5k rp. This was with the turm lll and it seems different.

[@Mig21Fishbed195]

I got a 3 kill air rb game in the Saab-105g and got 3k rp where I would’ve normally got 7

[@Kirito_01422]

You guys get rp?

[@stillcantbesilencedevennow]

Ssdd. The snail waited until folks stopped watching and reinstated their "economy improvements" I'd wager. That or just across the board nerfed things and smirked about the lazy, pointless "boycott" people did that they've since gone back on. Pay pigs are ALL gaijoob cares about. Dunno why folks keep taking it on the chin then acting surprised. My brother in Christ, eschew the snail.

[@digitalisman3267]

Wierd. I get pretty good rewards. Like 16k rp when capturing 2 points, 4 kills and 2 assists

[@skytron22]

​@@digitalisman3267 wtf? You using a premium or something?

[@melsuppatlol4565]

We knew the missiles were kinda screwed but this gameplay showed the problem much more clearer

[@OddBawZ]

*GAIJIN FIXED WIGGLY MISSILE THIS MORNING KINDA* THE LOSAT MIGHT BE BUGGY... BUT DO YOU KNOW WHAT ISN'T? THE GAIJIN STORE! GET MY DECAL AND 3% OFF HERE: store.gaijin.net/catalog.php?category=WarThunder&partner=Oddbawz&partner_val=2bpa5qx4

[@we-when]

Hey odd I need a pz.70 the 4.3 one vid man

[@millerthehunter3999]

U need to play the rest of missile ifv's they are hell to use since the missile at launch tries to literally eat the dirt

[@3NC3PH4L0N]

HOLY CAPS xD

[@Alduins_Flame]

Hey odd can you try to teach the people watching you how to properly use the tiger tanks? Both 1s and 2s

[@Shmave04]

The missiles fly like a straw wrapper being blown off…. Change my mind

[@RussianRainbow]

Yeah Odd I cannot imagine how bad this missile is with high ping (F for Australian players,) I'm getting an average of 25-65 ping depending on the server cluster it puts me in and the missile rarely ever hits where I'm aiming past ~1.2km. Hopefully they fix this, but I doubt it, since it's the same bug that plagues the ADATS missile for many months now.

[@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933]

Another vehicle that was featured in a IRL vehicle requests video made by Spookston. Now we wait to see if any other vehicles from those videos gets added a some point in the future.

[@liladoodle]

Live Spookston Reaction.

[@alistairdiren5790]

Well irl the launcher was tilted slightly upwards to counteract the missile from hitting the ground and help the missile get up to speed effectively.

[@1996Horst]

Yea, but the missile flew straight from the go, without guidance it would fly at a constant alight upward angle identical to the tube angle. In game it falls down if you are on a back slope and up when on an incline... so 100% a bug... and they "fixed" it by making the missile go up even more... so on an incline you are launching a rocket to the moon.

[@Infinity_Squad]

They need to remove the new flight physics and add old controls back to atgms

[@bb-6359]

Man gaijin just made this tank absolutely shit with how the missiles for some bizzare reason can't fly straight and level, instead corkscrews everywhere, inexplicably lofts up, or dumps into the ground. And the fact that a hypersonic kinetic energy missile gets stopped by cover is stupid, when in reality it had so much kinetic energy (80kg kinetic energy missile going at ~1500m/s is a shit ton of energy) that it obliterated its test targets into confetti. Like why? Why can't you make sense Gaijin? Why can't you make good, reliable event vehicles?

[@wtechboy18]

"I just wish I had a normal gun" is a pretty damning review of this thing.

[@WalrusJones185]

One thing worth mentioning a major mount for these things was supposed to be the roofs of regular utility vehicles, not the armored vehicle setup in game. Random Humvees being able peek you and make you disappear four times in 3 seconds is a scary thought.

[@jojojam753]

Hey Odd, love your vids and learned quite a bit from them. Today i was able to launch my first nuke and while its not much in the grand scheme it felt like a small accomplishment. Anyway keep up the nice vids and have a good one.

[@Igzilee]

It's been a few months now and gaijin still refuses to fix the ATGM problems. I don't think they have even acknowledges their existence despite being so incredibly obvious

[@russman3787]

I really hope the fix this thing, because it's a very weird and cool vehicle.

[@ZzVinniezZ]

They need to reintroduce the old atgm system back for this vehicle to work properly, firing on the move and atgm indicator so u dont waste 1 missile to test if u are elevate enough, also 1 extra 12 shots reload because i aint going to cap zone to reload for 2 minutes when there are no friendly to protect me.

[@russman3787]

@@ZzVinniezZ I agree wiith everything except the extra ammo. They should just make the restock time much faster and remove the reloading time after you restock.

[@ZzVinniezZ]

@@russman3787 yeah faster restock would been better if they gonna keep it like this.

[@J0HNweiner]

Great job oddbawz❤❤

[@Derkar95]

I think they broke missiles on many vehicles. Even in terms of aircraft, the AS-30 Nord on the Milan is pretty wiley as well for some reason

[@gavinlightfoot5521]

Missles were given a proper in game physical model which means that it gets screwed by the ping

[@itsjeepyo]

As someone who has the losat it's very limited on what it can do. Ot doesn't go up or down and can't shoot on the go. But if you manage to connect it'd very deadly

[@chimera2802]

love your videos

[@jasoncrawford4929]

Funny how the krizantema has no struggle with missile dip, wobble, or guidance. Almost like gaijin doesn't want the LOSAT to be good and only want players to pay for it

[@Thatonedude90]

I also love a chain link fence that is so strong it stops an atgm mounted apdfs in its tracks. Not to mention a missile moving at 3000 mph

[@Deeyohh]

Love the content always odd!

[@RubberduckWVU]

15:40 did bawz mean he’d do better with the t34 85 at 10.3 because I’d like to see that

[@sneakyfishiix8014]

They should give us a Humvee with a TOW launcher.

[@Kraus-]

The LOSAT system "was designed to be mounted onto a Humvee light military vehicle while allowing the vehicle to remain air-portable. LOSAT eventually emerged on an extended-length heavy-duty Humvee with a hard-top containing four KEMs used by special operations." But yeah we need more shitty technicals. pickup trucks with t-34 turrets, scooters with recoilless rifles, motorcycles with machine guns.

[@johnmcshane4463]

Maybe we could start with a Toyota pickup with a .50 cal on it

[@flowking6793]

From what I can tell the guidance system should have some elevation especially since it is meant to kill things at a long distance. It is just inaccurately modelled. For the record the turret does not elevate but the tracking system's camera (for lack of a better word) should have considerably better elevation.

[@simarshall2474]

I think you should take a T-34-85 into 10.3 to see if you can beat your score with this weird thing :D

[@ExcavationNation]

This video should be titled "Not Ideal"

[@solhernendez2885]

At 15:40 you mentioned you could do better with a t34-85. Could that be the next challenge video then? A top tier t34.

[@MrEvolutionable]

That killcam at 15:32 where the whole missile just ricochets off of the ammo storage is just Gaijin's recent masterwork in how not to make a viable and functional game.

[@ultimatekctv7378]

Looks like the missile is so god damn fast that it doesn't know what to do with prediction on the server side when it's being moved remotely by the user, making it spazz out. Your analysis looks bang on, this seems to be a networking issue.

[@gimpyo3354]

I've noticed a similar bug with ah-1f tow missiles towards the end of their range. They start to wiggle more and more on their path. Not so mush in test drive though. Would be neat to see you try using the stormer at present also, just to showcase how much non rus nations get shafted. They nerfed it hard with the missile changes and that was after already nerfing it previously.

[@bahamut256]

The killcam: “I’m here to talk to you about your tanks extended warranty.”

[@akmarksman]

My favorite war thunder content creator (Bo Time Gaming) did a video right before Gaijin "patched" the missile behavior. It was on the IT-1. Gaijin said they're adjusting the ATGMs, and their flight after launch, and its definitely broken compared to how it was before 3 months ago. Maybe gaijin watched a bunch of kids cartoons and figured that's how missiles are supposed to work? or a lot of low-budget action movies where the "missiles" are actually firecrackers, and their flight path is "let's veer off comically to the right or left just after launch.."

[@swordsman1_messer]

I saw Phly’s video on this thing, and he was having the issue of the missiles constantly landing in front of him 30 meters away…

[@Kraus-]

Partly due to him sitting on downslopes and partly from the missile dropping before it gets up to speed. The second part has been hotfixed and they get a bit of lift right after launching. But you still don't want to fire while your launcher is pointing at the ground.

[@danielwalmsley1824]

Would love to see you play the Ratel 20. It's a Ratel with a 20mm cannon that's pretty good against light vehicles and sometimes aircraft, and ATGMs at 6.7. It's not amazing or anything, but definitely pretty good if you can make it good! I think you could enjoy such a rat vehicle.

[@rjcoady21]

You need to test the losat on ships and the russian nuke tank!

[@splatterdaysaint9024]

Goddamn if that wasnt the most frustrating video ive ever seen you play. I can hear it in your voice lol.

[@thisisaduck]

15:40 you’ve said it now. I’ll be keenly awaiting that video.

[@FullMetalWhale]

Would love to see Odd grind this event to get the LOSAT

[@Maddog3060]

I love that this thing's missiles sound like you're punting one of those rubber balls used in gym class when they launch.

[@matthewvanvliet9280]

I love how the 50cal sounds now

[@DrkPhenix-gm9dq]

As you said, I also think this tank being bad would have to do with server side. I hope they fix the tank in like a few months lmao. It is just like Strv103 a few years back. It wriggles very hrad, basically impossible to aim on slopes or when there is a body near it (like teammates, enemies and dead bodies).

[@thegamingwatermelon7847]

Hi oddbawz! I was wondering if you could play the AMX 50 FOSH?

[@littlebeardedman2189]

This thing looks so painful. Looks like all the event vehicles are worthless (I know nothing about naval.)

[@ultravioletsus]

Nobody cares about naval.

[@paktahn]

no the premium is gonna be a fun low tier troll machine im gonna enjoy using that agm as an aam to shoot down big ass bombers its slow enough it should be easy to guide but fast enough that no bomber can get away from it

[@ultravioletsus]

@@paktahn I'll use it against cancer Ostwind IIs at 5.7 BR range.

[@ISrWolfI]

the laser guided missiles do tend to go out of your aim and miss but it's not a big difference between the place of impact and the point you are well, pointing the missile to but since the losat's missiles are so fast maybe it widens the difference ? idk

[@rpgguy7429]

You can lob shots at air vehicles using the binos

[@vizender]

Tbh the missile issues is not just on this vehicle. The ACRA is also a terrible offender when it comes to not going where you aim. It seems that the faster the missile is, the more it wiggles due to server lag. I think it’s because they only update their flight path every so often to not tax the server to much, but that causes them to overshoot everytime before updating their flight path on the crosshairs, and the faster and nimbler the missile is, the more it will overshoot. But with that there is also the issue that if you have a bad internet connection, the missile just won’t go where you aim, and kinda of will only go in certain predetermined places, so it physically can’t be aim in 80% of the places you want it to go. Those 2 issues makes me unable to use the AMX10M which I wish I could play because it looks so funny

[@jgdowell]

"That's not good. That was also very cool though." Those were pretty much the exact statements that ran through my mind too.

[@seanmarshall5463]

Hey Odd, could you do another 75 Jumbo video? I know you did a 76 Jumbo video because of the update and BR Changes, but I want to see how the 75 does, thanks!

[@wolfknight1768]

It was from a program around the same time as the CCVL since the US wanted to test using a kinetic missile

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

Yeah it was as a whole discontinued in 2003.

[@T0tenkampf]

what a coincidence, a wiggly missile gives your mom anxiety too

[@gergocsanadi4770]

Man a toob that big moving that fast is just scarry stuff irl

[@rektaldischarge7496]

Like right now the LOSAT is pretty stable, the biggest upside is due to it being a kinetic round, Russian Kontact ERA is 100% useless as it just blasts through the front of a T-80 with ease. Its a very situational vehical where you take it with you in a big lineup, and if the map is good, you take it out first. Also a good thing about it, if you do manage to find a slope to angle it upwards, its actually pretty decent at taking out helicopters. I got my LOSAT on the last day of the event so I dont think I ever encountered the spazzy missile, but at least its fixed now.

[@fazejellybeam6498]

Any plans on making a vid with the IS-7?

[@ExcavationNation]

Probably not unfortunately

[@SilentKabob]

They coded the tree wiggle physics into the missiles.

[@AbysmalLegionaire]

I think the missel wiggle is a bug for some people cause when i use it i don't have the wiggle but when my buddy use's it he has the wiggle

[@spiritfox557]

The way the missle wiggles is similar to the ADATS now after they nerfed basically every western missle; i try to hit a tank with it and the missle is just having a seizure while guiding in and 8/10 it hits a spot i cant penetrate.

[@simonwith-a-cat778]

Its not just western missiles, both IT-1 and BMP-2 i play have the same issue. Missile just dives into the ground upon launch, or constantly goes off-course resulting in non-pens. I mean, at least they kinda nerfed IT-1 that way.

[@REVV0219]

Yo Odd I think the issue with the missile comes from the game itself. If you look at some of those modded planes with 10x engine power etc. After they go a certain speed the plane just starts jittering. Same thing that is happening to this missile by the looks of it. Might be whats going on but idk

[@SuperIcyPhoenix]

You mean the wings jitter about because they’re about to fly off, which they’re known to do?

[@getbrutal4388]

I love these vids but I can't help but think of how many people play in a prem and leave after one death trying to be like the content creators. I wish you'd play some lineup videos.

[@madeingermany9445]

I recently saw a video of a Japanese type 10 tank shooting. It hat a reload of Minimum 2.5 to 3.0 seconds or so.

[@Tanks.With.Teeth.Malloy]

I saw earlier today the snail has committed to fixing this vehicle and having better testing for future vehicles. Normally I'd be skeptical but with their recent track record who knows? The update from today made the missiles a bit more stable. Also it no longer blows up when it hits stuff. 😊

[@CyberneticArgumentCreator]

I've seen videos of people playing this without the crazy wobbly tracking, so it must be ping related.

[@Timelost_Techpriest]

Looks like they've partially fixed it; Phy had a vid yesterday where the thing kept nosediving every shot straight into the ground.

[@Kraus-]

That was mostly from Phly not watching where the vehicle was parked. It takes a while to get used to the fact that you can't elevate the turret while sitting on the downslope of a hill. If your hull is angled down your turret is also angled down.

[@cole6396]

i thought you meant Broken as in.. OP but yeah, i plan on only using it for sniping and then to spawn if people are in our spawn and the i spawn the losat and kill 3 or more

[@jaybatson2322]

TY ODD

[@somemstrd]

from what i have seen there hasnt been any other youtuber with the wiggle missle problem so i think it might be your connection or something

[@thefeistywombat]

I had no idea you could click the mini map

[@ethanreid6700]

A certified spoon kid classic

[@OddBawZ]

BRENDA

[@criion]

Nahh, thats lucky lamma

[@fluidize8532]

Could you please play the Pbil M/40?

[@cybransolis6097]

It needs to be updated where the missles are launched straight cause how on earth would it launch straight up and then straight down

[@freemacster3236]

Pls play the ikv 91-105. I found the apds to be very good

[@mstrbomber6942]

Pretty much all Missiles wobble after the La Royal Update, it’s supposed to make them “more realistic;” but I don’t think most militaries would use them if they wobble as much as they do in game and that’s without mentioning the missile’s delayed response time.

[@kylemelder5118]

Where did they get that the missile dips down? It has never done that, and every sources shows the opposite, as it launched at speed, and had a minor arch to target. There is literally nothing that would make it seem like the currently implemented model is even close to right.

[@tilted_axis9819]

I’m waiting for the flying ballon noise

[@Staccet]

6:29 that is War Thunder at its best. All kinds of cool shit to look at and sounds to hear.

[@Patches-vq8cd]

Can you play challenger 1 please? Just about to unlock that tank

[@sadib52]

At this point, I just like how snails shoot they foot over and over again, hilarious af

[@solreaver83]

Missiles of all sorts are effected by ping. With my Aussie ping of 170 - 400+ ping this is easily seen. Atgm were impossible to use for over a year if you were Australian.

[@s4ss.m8]

Hahaha the kill cams of people getting a HIMARS rocket though their tank 😂

[@jakobmikota1543]

Not me killing everyone of them LOSAT-Thingis with my Begleitpanzer

[@muik6516]

was grinding this event for this but after seeing gameplay i stopped

[@beefcake3543]

As goofy as this thing is, it's a real shame I won't be able to grind for it since I'm currently deployed. The LOSAT is and always has been one of my favorite pieces of tech, so it's no wonder Gaijin would do an event like this when I'm not able to play the game.

[@anferneejones7032]

Me too, im deployed as well, and couldn't grind for it. low key annoying. They should just make it to where you can buy it if you couldnt grind for it.

[@stacosaurus]

Probably the MG would be more useful than the missiles themselves lol

[@ZzVinniezZ]

Sad part is that mg even have limited elevation which u cant use it like a turtle to shoot down aircraft....so yeah...this thing is so sad

[@stacosaurus]

@@ZzVinniezZ :((((

[@nekomango3115]

It wasn't like this two days ago... why can't we have good thing TmT

[@the_ursus]

Hey OddBawZ, could you please play the Kpz 70?

[@jPlanerv2]

Its same for bmp2m atgm it behaves like its looking at soft aps all the time

[@jgdowell]

Odd, we need another F4U-7 video.

[@reschke5]

What is the key binding for thermal sights on 10.3 tanks and higher? I cannot find it

[@woahdude3853]

For some reason all atgms now act like this. My bmp1 missles just dive right into the ground 99 percent of the time

[@convolutedconcepts]

looks like the missiles are trying to use both tow rules the old and new

[@GHOSTSTALKER90]

The missile knows where it is....

[@thomasbessembinder4967]

The missile code was reused from the new tree movement code :)

[@TransGirlGaming]

I hope they get the ATGM jiggle fixed cause I was so excited to see this added after having made the suggestion for it on the forums