“It’s Energy Security Or Net Zero, You Can’t Have Both!” Julia Hartley-Brewer Hits Out At Net Zero

TalkTV's Julia Hartley-Brewer has hit out at Net Zero policies, as the Government plans to fast track planning for hundreds of pylons and overhead cables to meet its green targets.
Joined by head of policy at Net Zero Watch and commentator Sam Armstrong, Julia says: “Grant Shapps' job title is Secretary of State for Energy Security and Net Zero. It’s energy security or Net Zero. It can’t be both. Pick a side!"
#netzero #energy #energysecurity #debate #talktv #talkradio

[@talktv]

Do you support the Government's Net Zero policies?

[@thedave7760]

Net zero is an obvoius scam and people need to wake up to it.

[@levon1518]

No, it's a scam to control the global population under Marxist rule.

[@marumaru6084]

They don't make sense we would do more good for global emissions by building power stations in poor countries!!!! Its funny the rich like to tell us to do without whilst doing the exact opposite!!!

[@suewood8538]

NO.

[@bobc5678]

No

[@Human_Being__]

*Net-Zero means Zero for us the plebs & more for the over privileged! Sounds great, thanks King Charlie!*

[@snakeman9902]

💯, you shall own nothing and be happy.. WEF..

[@JustMeTalking]

Well I've been through all this in the last two years. - Upgraded our house to Energy Performance A+ - Upgraded to 3 Phase electric supply - Installed Smart Meters and low cost tariffs - Installed Solar Array and Home Battery Storage - Installed multiple EV Chargers and two electric cars It took a long time with National Grid, and was not easy. That's just our house. Now times that by millions. No chance.

[@gullveigvanaheim5924]

A Governments job is to look after the people, they fail miserably .

[@pjduff7577]

True, but their mission at the moment is to enslave us

[@elainetalbot2947]

Purposely.

[@jonathanrennie1379]

no governments are elected by the people and govern not dictates

[@user-js8eg2fp3x]

They are all foreign and hate us

[@terryreknaw6152]

Government is there to manage the herd. The herd showed them beautifully in 2020.

[@lajucb]

We can’t even get recycling and plastic usage right. And that’s been an issue for years and much easier to solve. Net zero is pipe dream.

[@andrewcheadle948]

Net zero is the excuse to have the jack boot on our necks!

[@denisebrown6939]

Agree. And keeping our streets and neighbourhoods free from litter, etc🤷‍♀️. Net zero not in any of my dreams though.

[@sisyphussapprentice8976]

What I find fascinating about this "net zero" lunacy, is that not a single one of those who propound this ideology, (and that is all it is), can actually present a valid argument for their cause, yet I could quite easily disprove everything they say, but no one would listen. The great unwashed slavishly buy into this rubbish because the art of open debate has been stifled. Can't all be levelled at the education, (or lack of it), system. "Life of Brian". has become not only the norm for the proletariat , but the behavioral guide for the political elite.

[@Cat10980]

Exactly! Talk to any of these loon-balls about Maunder minimums, the Dalton Cycle or the Hallstatt Cycle and they would think you were an idiot, and yet these three natural phenomena explain every temperature variation ever seen from the modem to the ice ages! Climate change I don’t deny, but the cause isn’t what we are told to believe. It’s just nature.

[@jpw6893]

Biggest issue for me is they never have a solution.

[@andrewcheadle948]

​@@jpw6893think the "solution" for them is to have us all digitally enslaved. That in their mind equates to total control. Which of course is what the war on co2 is all about!

[@johnjc4645]

As you say there is no debate if you are a climate scientist that doesn't agree with the climate agenda you are classed as a climate denier and canceled

[@williamkinnell79]

You are absolutly correct. All governmets have been aware of this for at least seven years but he majority of the peoples representitives IMO are just plain thick.

[@justinformed7367]

Our tiny UK islands only put out about 1% of any global emissions. China & India put out about 30% globally, & building large numbers of new coal powered stations. How is our 1% going to make any difference across the worlds output?.

[@jeremyboughtono2]

Apparently we import enough foriegn goods to push that percentage much higher. Try telling everyone they will have to stop consuming foriegn goods as well as shivering in the dark.

[@emmahowells8334]

1% won't make any difference, that the answer, it's like expecting one small squirt of water to put out an inferno.

[@andrewcheadle948]

​@@emmahowells8334it's about power, greed and control. We're fast turning in to communist China!

[@justinformed7367]

@anglovirtual You're absolutely right, but we never see them address China or India in any capacity. I also worry that these fools may cause law changes to clamp down on protesting in such a negative way that it limits genuine protests that have public support.

[@user-js8eg2fp3x]

@@justinformed7367 BLM would still protest and face zero action

[@davidanderson7138]

i rather think CO2 in atmosphere isn't a bad thing, more plants will grow and it will help the planet out of this current ice age

[@andrewcheadle948]

Satellites have been reporting a greening of the earth for decades now, because of slightly higher co2 levels. Great news for the "greens"..... They can cease glueing their tits to the roads now!

[@stuberry1875]

Wtf? 😮

[@izzyplant8428]

Please keep exposing this folly. We did not vote for this DISTOPIA.

[@jeremyboughtono2]

You did if you voted Conservative, Labour, Lib-dem, SNP or Green.

[@normanmacfarlane6724]

They have gone insane down here in Australia as far as this is concerned.

[@terryo5672]

Julia - you are absolutely spot on and technically right.

[@turboslag]

There is another factor involved in the whole energy debate, that is, reducing consumption! Many people don't actually understand what constitutes a low energy consuming device. Example, I recently visited a friend who I hadn't seen in some time and one of the first things I noticed was the number of halogen downlighters and light fittings in her lounge and kitchen, there were dozens of them! This was a big thing in decor in the 80s and 90s but each one can consume as much as 50 watts! Her reaction when I mentioned this was well, they're only lights! And they were all switched on! I did a quick calculation and there was as much as 1000 watts of lighting at that time. When I explained what this meant in terms of the impact on her bill she was shocked. I also explained they could al be replaced by LED lights which would divide consumption by 10. So think of street lighting, motorway lighting, etc, etc, does this all need to be on continuously durig hours of darkness? It could be automated to only be on when needed. Then there all those factories and warehouses that have exterior lighting switched on all night, again, automation could be used to switch them on only when movement was detected. This goes on and on, office buildings, hospitals, car parks, etc, etc, megawatts of uneccesary consumption. However, nett zero is still a ludicrous concept and even if there was a climate issue, a reduction to zero wouldn't be necessary as the atmosphere can compensate for changing levels of co2, so zero emission isn't needed, in fact, a level of co2 is necessary!

[@rjones6219]

I've had the same thoughts as you about street/motorway lighting. I live a thousand feet up, and have a panoramic view of W Yorkshire. I see roads meandering over the hilltops, well lit, but I've never seen a car using them, and certainly nobody walks over them. So why consume electricity for the occasional car (which has headlights). In my town back in the 60s, at midnight the lights on side roads would go out, and only the Highways roads would remain lit. We didn't need the lighting then and we don't need it now. I once worked for my local council, and suggested to a finance manager to consider switching off at night. He replied that people would complain citing crime prevention. My response was that there is a street light at the end of my drive, which aided and abetted thieves to steal the wheels off my car twice!

[@jamescollins3647]

@@rjones6219 Just look at any American city and check out the lighting. It looks lovely but it uses an awful lot of electricity.

[@raymondfarrimond2010]

The village I live in the street lights go off at 11pm except the ones on the main road but they are spread out. The road between this village and the next only has street lights at danger spots i.e. bad bends and where side roads join it.

[@johncatto5019]

Where exactly is the steel coming from to supply the pylons, and the manpower and machinery to build them ? Net zero is a complete non starter.

[@sumary7663]

A sensible young man …wow ….well said. Net zero is not what we should be focussing on.

[@ianchalklen1047]

I read today that the government is aiming to have 6 EV chargers at every motorway service station by the end of the year. If they were in any measure serious this should have already been surpassed. They have these aims whilst fiddling at the edges which will ultimately harm us all but the poorest of society far more

[@Shadrach666]

The more electric cars there are - the more chargers they will need. Only 2% of cars in Britain are electric vehicles,. Imagine how busy the queues will be if 25% of cars are electric? 50%? 75%? There isn't even the capacity in the national grid for this! I want £300 off my bill - nobody asked if we agreed to give corporations a third of my electricity bill so they coulk build wind farms

[@jamescollins3647]

Government did not build petrol stastions so why should the tax payer pay for car chargers?

[@Shadrach666]

@@jamescollins3647 Because they are the ones pushing the so-called 'net-zero' agenda. We willingly bought petrol cars, but people do not overall Want electric cars, it's a political hot potato based on climate lies

[@terryo5672]

The PPE graduates in Parliament haven’t a clue have they? They certainly aren’t listening to those of us that are engineers.

[@rjones6219]

As Prof Michael Kelly (Electrical and Electronic engineering Cambridge U), said in a presentation "if you were told to dig a hole, and as you did, people came along and tipped earth into it. Would you carry on digging? "

[@sandraoneill7327]

Don't electric cars cause more road damage due to their weight?

[@levon1518]

Yes, the multi storey car parks would need reinforcing. A SUV EV can weigh up to 3 tonnes. A lethal weapon for a poor pedestrian.

[@Shadrach666]

Yes, and they produce 50% more particulates because of their increased weight, increased tyre wear and increased brake pad wear. Meanwhile they are cutting down forests to mine the lithium, cobalt and copper the batteries requires. They are not at all green, and most of the electricity used to power them comes from fossil fuels.

[@yasi4877]

@@Shadrach666 The irony is that when an EV lithium battery catches fire the best way to extinguish the fire is with CO2

[@davidbarlow350]

You wait until all the 20mph limits are in place and EVs have a longer period to damage roads!

[@janettesinclair6279]

There doesn’t seem to be any joined up thinking in all of this - where is all the extra electricity coming from to fuel the electric cars? It has to be generated somehow, and currently the technology is not nearly developed enough to meet the potential demand. The elements needed to produce these batteries is another concern, and the disposal of said batteries at the end of their usefulness. The fact that co2 is needed for plant life in the world. Stop these ludicrous targets, till science catches up with your plans!

[@williamcorkery5461]

It's just hit me government new they weren't going to meet targets let's just say for arguments sake it was three years ago now we have 15 min city's proposed instead of meeting targets let's force them out of there cars and retrict them too two birds with one stone.

[@urbanfrog8466]

As I understand it, the government (i.e. WEF) want to reduce the number of cars in ownership in general by a huge percentage, regardless of whether they are petrol, diesel, or electric. They want to discourage travel in general, and 'encourage' people into these 15 minute cities. So it is actually in their favour to ban petrol vehicles before electric vehicle ownership gets too high. And if electric vehicle ownership is kept to the privileged few, along with (limited) public transport, large-scale infrastructure upgrades won't actually be needed.

[@rocklover7437]

Electric cars means no cars .But hey we won't need them in our 15min Cities

[@flashman2]

15 minutes prisons

[@rocklover7437]

@@flashman2 correct

[@richard1342]

The government is not interested in the public opinion on Net Zero, but neither are all the main parties. If you vote Labour at the next election you will get Net Zero big time - God help us.

[@peterwilliams9410]

Vote the REFORM party. They will stop this lunatic net zero and surveillance state maddness in its tracks immediately. The choice is in our hands at the next general election.

[@DingBatSplat]

A couple of points that make all this work:- Only a very few are intended to be allowed personal transport of any kind; A significantly smaller population brought about by various means.

[@terryo5672]

They do need a re think. Net zero can’t be achieved by 2050 unless you just import your energy and manufactured products from abroad where they use fossil fuels.

[@URFUTUREUK]

They are playing ping pong with people's savings and futures with all of these policies

[@geoffreydutton2234]

Shouldn't give these people Airtime.

[@stephenrichards5386]

Tell that to the fool Shapps and his mate in No 10

[@bennyhill2073]

We are digging up green sites all round our villages and building hundreds of houses.. very green. As in the green of 💸

[@tommiealdridge]

I'm happy with my diesel van thanks 👍

[@astragreen]

I wouldn’t if I were you they will tax you higher and higher until you can’t afford to run it, just look at the fake ulez tax extortion racket!..

[@stevemitchell4914]

This madness is like a gambler doubling down.

[@gadget348]

Someone must have the total yearly UK consumption figures for petrol and diesel. Someone else must know the conversion figures in megawatts for that usage to be converted into electricity. Someone else must know the approximate cost of supplying the required megawatts to the national grid. And someone else must have a good idea of the cost of distribution. Its well past the time that the UK public were informed on how much this is actually going to cost the average citizen. Then we need a public vote on the matter. It's high time that the virtue signalling politicians actually informed the public instead of leading us down the most expensive garden path in history.

[@kevinvictor9190]

There is another factor involved in the whole energy debate suppression of energy technologies which they have done through blackmail, murder, greed and stupidity

[@graemewalker1267]

An interesting point is that the Royal Mail is currently losing £1 million pounds a DAY, they're currently moving towards a fully electric fleet, once completed they will be losing £3 million a DAY. Utterly unsustainable and this is just 1 national organisation, god knows what the overall cost will be to us all to continue the net zero folly to completion.

[@sarahjessop1581]

The only sensible clean energy comes from tidal power. It never fails and for an island like Britain, surrounded by sea, why isn’t the government using it? I’d like to hear their answer.

[@richardnewton638]

they dont understand every road in the UK will have to be dug up

[@stephengilchrist6595]

It's already happening. Groundworks for battery storage farms are being planned for and built as we speak.

[@timcowell2626]

Regardless of the why's and wherefores of net zero, why is the UK Government dragging it's feet on SMR's. Rolls Royce have been sticking these things in subs and aircraft carriers for years. JUST GET ON WITH IT.

[@davetdowell]

Today is turning out to be a gem, a Shania Twain ad followed BY JHB video... hope everyone elses day is going as well. I knew there'd be an advantage to buying a house with a garden so small you couldn't fit a pylon in it... eventually.

[@dougplatt2507]

Hear Hear!!!

[@deja-view1017]

They love the pledges but not the planning work that goes with it. In 7yrs the government have not even managed to give us the Brexit we voted for and that didn't require creating new technologies. I dont think they have any idea how they're going to achieve this ridiculous target (which is based on useless science anyway). Where's the overall plan, the timelines and deliverables, costings and dependencies. What are the assumptions and constraints? Do we have the resources (no) and what are the risks? This is a huge undertaking, who is project manging it, who are the team of experts who are working 24/7 on this (even then its not enough time). Currently it is be enacted piecemeal by various independent city councils. Has anyone thought how any of this works in the wilds of the North Yorkshire Moors or the Devonshire countryside, where we end up with all the solar panelled fields but can still only use oil or open fires to heat our homes? I don't think they know the current state of the nation properly let alone what they need to do. And by the way, in the polytunnels that grow your food we raise the CO2 levels to around 1000ppm to increase production, anything much below 200ppm and everything dies, we are currently quite low at around 400ppm. Plants need CO2 and there are many studies that show the earth is greening, the antartic ice sheets are expanding and the Great Barrier Reef is recovering (part of a natural cycle according to some experts). P*ss up and brewery comes to mind

[@niguel4438]

Hi on ideology low on common sense the Net Zero lot. Read NOT ZERO by Ross Clark.

[@run2cat4run]

The cost of energy would had been cheaper it Tories built more power plants

[@mange2]

I love the term 'net zero'. Its like saying its ok if a hundred people die as long as we also save a hundred people.

[@patrickcoleman3]

The Politicians know only too well about Net Zero but all they care about is their bottom line.

[@rjones6219]

A point not raised on a ruinables network, the grid would have to be over engineered. Our current grid is like the road network. Power stations are positioned relatively close to the main consumers (cities, industrial sites etc.). So the high power circuits are reasonably short. However the lower power circuits are fed off these for the smaller urban areas, and from these, further lower power circuits for remote locations. However, with ruinables, it could be that the north west of Scotland has very strong winds and lots of power, but in the south east of England there's SFA! So the implication is that high power circuits have to be built up in the far NW, to carry the power to the rest of the country. But this is volatile position and the source can and will shift. So now you have a shifting power source. How do you manage it, how do you balance the grid?

[@geoffwright9570]

The public know this already it's the politicians that ignore the obvious truths about net zero. But you can win the bet that net zero wil be extremely expensive for everyone.

[@desdicadoric]

Net zero is crazy, none of the adherents can explain it or can even tell you how much carbon is currently in the atmosphere

[@oojimmyflip]

Battery vechicles have had their chance a hundred years ago and the idea failed in favour of combustion engines in vechicles.

[@ffrederickskitty214]

The basic problem is that our politicians are invariably humanities graduates who don’t fully understand the scientific, engineering and other technical issues involved in going net zero. Try a persistent high pressure weather system over the country in February and see how far the wind farms go to keeping us warm without a decent base load.

[@glennhumphries8041]

No the problem is that they are following orders and those that don't comply are being removed 🤔

[@davechipling169]

There will never be enough chargers it’s all BS

[@lenwilkinson672]

All these wind turbines and solar panels are making the countryside looking ever more ugly looking.

[@Juls27989]

The words " prefer " to go to this technology is the main issue, we certainly dont have to turn to this, its just what the government etc is preferring. 🥴

[@turksrds]

It’s not going to make any difference our1%

[@haymish6943]

Nobody ever mentions that an electric car has a lifespan of approximately 10 years so nobody wants a second hand electric car over 6 years old so what will happen to them

[@Pythagarous]

This government (and the next) can’t sort illegal immigration by small boat which is relatively easy to stop. What chance do they have of going “net zero” ever? That is a huge problem.

[@LeoH3L1]

Emissions, not a problem, at least as far as CO2 goes, fair enough on the particulate matter, but that can be filtered, but CO2 IS NOT A PROBLEM.

[@BertWald-wp9pz]

It is all about talk by those who can’t do anything except talk. You can’t talk away the reality when the power fails, when there is not enough food, when people get poorer and poorer but I am certain the hot air will continue.

[@ianhawtin4756]

Not so long ago on cup final electricity companies would break into a panic if everyone put the kettle on at half time

[@keithfarrington960]

They do not intend us having personal transportation or overseas vacations or genuine meat. They reserve these for themselves and their children.

[@Chris-sg2su]

Someone making money out of it

[@ragemachine4991]

Absolutely not!

[@Cat10980]

It’s essential this country sets aside net zero and re-invests in coal, oil and gas immediately. We have an ongoing nuclear plan (years late because of the dithering of the previous governments, mostly Labour). With these energy sources we have a diverse energy portfolio which doesn’t rely on foreign countries. By improving energy diversity and security of supply, we would also tackle the cost of living, which stems directly from energy costs. Lower the energy price, lower the price of almost anything. It’s the only sensible energy plan for this nation and would be a win-win for any government. They can thank me for the advice. I’ll have to leave immigration to someone else to solve, though.

[@philipbant657]

How many tons of coal does it take to produce one wind turbine? (Wind mill)

[@Davem69]

When was the last time we had smog and thick pea soup fog that lasted days??????

[@alanrabjohns4656]

Thank God I don't drive!!!😊😊😊😊😊

[@Human_Being__]

Thank god I do drive.✨🙏✨

[@elainetalbot2947]

What about your kids and grandkids.

[@bodazephyr6629]

I go further: it's civilization or net zero. Pick one, we can't have both.

[@mallamal5578]

Yes you can have both

[@johnristheanswer]

It takes around 7 years to fill a pothole , never mind build a fully functioning power system.

[@markpaul1154]

The Working classes wont be allowed a car. Solved. Blue boilers suits, a bike and a chip implanted that ring fences humans in to zones

[@user-ub4pl6tz2e]

Just found out You don't need landline Telephone For having internet????

[@stewartwatson3871]

To right Julia 👍👍👍

[@janemillar-ck3nc]

I would be very interested to know how these protestors heat their homes!!??

[@JanKozak-ww6zz]

No self no self

[@peteroldridge1574]

Why don't you ask him how much of this green energy is recyclable? that will end his arggument

[@ianross225]

Energy security should be paramount and net zero an aspiration. The world will not end if we miss any random target date be it 2030 or 2050. Without globally accepted actions nothing we do will make a jot of difference to the environment yet will destroy our economy.

[@mrman9561]

Its still going to cost more the only way they can do is screw the motorist

[@williamcorkery5461]

Sorry about the missing commas lol fuming.

[@ottovonsewell]

We are getting closer to hydrogen powered cars witch will power the electric motor, what are we going to do with all the charging points then? This govement has no idea what it's doing.... Net zero will come when we are ready and that's closer to 2050. I do not understand why people are in such a hurry..

[@kathleenswift7979]

They have no intentions of providing enough charging points, they want you to walk or go nowhere.

[@keithlevoir608]

Money

[@jeremyboughtono2]

The planet will be dead in 6 years and 22 days according to Khan's climate clock.

[@brianthesnail3815]

The electricity grid was designed around having large col fired power stations in the middle of the country supplying electricity to large urban industrial centres in the middle of the country. Now the entire grid has to be literally turned inside out to bring renewable energy from offshore wind turbines. On top of that the total demand for electricity is to go up by 50%. It took 50 years to build the grid - it simply cannot be rebuilt and expanded in size in such a short amount of time.

[@OmmerSyssel]

How about finding solutions instead of whining? Study how Denmark are supplied with ~50% renewable energy and 115% during peak time. 95% power lines are now in the ground. All without nutters going berserk or broke... 🤷🏼 Good luck with your reactionary clown show 🥱

[@user-js8eg2fp3x]

Deport Sunak and Khan

[@matthewtaylor7355]

U CAN HAVE BOTH

[@user-sw2lv3zp6o]

The impossible dream.

[@possetman]

Those MP’s And the majority of the general public might like the 12 point plan, but I doubt if the unelected blockers (House of Lords, Civil Servants, the Courts and miscellaneous pressure groups) will support it.

[@paulhewitt5198]

Enough of this "Nett Zero" crap!!!! Get rid of the perpetrators of this massive con!!!!!

[@copferthat]

I can remember when the mere mention of nuclear energy had his like foaming at the mouth, what happened? Not a one of them works in the energy industry or has any idea how it all works.

[@johngibson8668]

Net zero = capture nothing.

[@user-ub4pl6tz2e]

I have problems charging my mobile phone 📱 Opps have to go my charger low Street wise TAL.........

[@davidraddings8211]

Great to have extra pylons (NIMBY), but will we have enough Net Zero Electricity to send down the lines? It all sounds like it is a Boris Johnson type proposal 😂

[@OmmerSyssel]

Why aren't these power lines laid in the ground? Other modern countries do so...

[@davidraddings8211]

@@OmmerSyssel It's easier to hang the wires over property than dig through private land

[@adrianmoore3118]

Is there anyone out there who still buys this nonsense

[@jeremyboughtono2]

Millions in this country alone but they dont watch this channel.

[@andrewcheadle948]

Plenty of blue haired brainwashed eco cretins about, with nothing between their ears, and nothing in their lives, other than being selfish and ignorant.

[@demonsync57]

Release Ufo tech.. unlimited energy..

[@Human_Being__]

Wtf ffs!

[@Bobmudu35UK]

Im still surprised at how useless Theresa May was!

[@jmills1549]

A not for profit state owned energy company would be a good thing, putting customers before shareholders for a change. 😂

[@stuartwood5448]

I wouldn’t trust the state to run a bath - yet alone an energy company

[@rjones6219]

That's what we used to have, until Tories sold off CEGB

[@davemargison2451]

Net zero wot a load ov unnecessary waste of time / effort and all lies nature doin wot it does stop the lies

[@Richo64]

We need you in Australia, govt here are as bad as yours if not worse, and you would run rings around the Luddites posing as experts here,

[@edwardlondon6131]

I am pleased to be living in Japan, the Government is looking at 2050 or 2060

[@stephenclarke4891]

What do they want to do kill all the plants trees etc never going to happen

[@2trichoptera]

CO2 has no correlation with temperature. So the arguement is false. We all want clean energy, but first we want energy. We forget that without greenhouse gasses the worlds average temperature would -15 deg C. Planets response to increasing CO2 is higher food productivity and greening of the planet. We are already a bankrupt nation. Bank of England holds only £200 billion in gold, covid cost us 300 billion. What we do have is a lot of debt and yet keep printing money we cant redeem.

[@philipclemoes9458]

We get net zero c02 we all dead.

[@steverichmond7142]

Utter rubbish. The grid is resilient against ev charging. This guy works for Shell.

[@Human_Being__]

Nah!

[@elainetalbot2947]

And you wok for bill and Klaus.

[@andrewcheadle948]

Think you'll find that you're wrong there, no matter how much you want to be right! The grid would have to have billions spent on it, to be able to supply the extra juice to charge EV'!

[@steverichmond7142]

@@elainetalbot2947 I don't understand ... which bill and who is Klaus

[@steverichmond7142]

@@andrewcheadle948 Absolutely wrong... there are already sufficient chargers to go from one end of the mainland to the other. Range anxiety is a thing of the past.

[@barrabuswoods8636]

This human in pink still reads snoozepapers..good grief!