It's got boost, the legendary 1990 Toyota Supra Turbo | Buyers Guide

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Күн бұрын

“Supra” may be a famous name but not all generations receive the same amount of recognition or respect. Hagerty’s Editor-at-Large Sam Smith presents a deep dive into the third-generation (A70) Supra, and details what you need to know about buying, owning, and maintaining this classic Japanese sports car.
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Episode chapters:
00:00 Introduction - 1990 Toyota Supra
00:29 The non-famous Supra
00:58 Vehicle overview
01:58 Driving impressions
02:48 Engine variants
03:56 One weird thing…
04:44 Interior notes
05:28 Motor matters
07:04 Don’t blow a head gasket
07:47 Turbo needs
08:15 Drivetrains
08:50 Suspension and undercarriage
10:03 Hagerty Valuation Tools
10:49 Sam Smith’s final thoughts
10:59 Credits
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@olebuckranch2782
@olebuckranch2782 3 жыл бұрын
I had an 88 Mustang GT back in the day and around 1991 I happened upon a Turbo Supra on the beltway around Houston...we put the hammer down and rung it out. I never could catch the Supra. After about 10 minutes of this the guy pulled over and we talked...he said were were going 140 mph at one point. Thinking back this was probably not very smart...but it was pretty fun.
@alangil40
@alangil40 3 жыл бұрын
Funny you should bring this up. My wife and I graduated college in 1989 and were married in 1990 at which time I upgraded from an 83 Mustang GT to a 1986 Mustang GT and for my wife we purchased a used 1987 Supra Turbo (6-speed manual of course). At some point during our ownership we were side by side on a highway and gunned it from 60mph to 120mph and we were dead even the whole time. For the era, these were pretty fast cars especially once you got it going. It had as much power as a C4 Corvette. In 1994 I sold the GT and got a used 1990 300zx Twin Turbo - little did I know at the time we would have two relatively iconic Japanese cars of the era.
@olebuckranch2782
@olebuckranch2782 3 жыл бұрын
@@alangil40 My wife cried when I traded in the GT...it was a great car.
@MR-gp9ys
@MR-gp9ys 2 жыл бұрын
oddly enough, when i was a teen i had a new 88 turbo targa supra, I ran into a mustang probably of the same yr. Him and i got to going on our Canadian highway.. He was at my side , we punched it, and i kept creeping past him slowly, by the time we backed off i had the needle buried and he was in my rearview mirror. . Best run of my life.. But looking back,, stupid move..
@The_Opinion_of_Matt
@The_Opinion_of_Matt 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the styling of the Mark 3 Supra over the styling of the Mark 4
@jeremychen9282
@jeremychen9282 3 жыл бұрын
That’s your opinion, Matt.
@eriksantoso1741
@eriksantoso1741 3 жыл бұрын
Mk3 design and mk2 was my favourite.
@damilolaakanni
@damilolaakanni 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. The MK4 looks more like a GT car than a sports car. Same with the 3000GT.
@bikingD
@bikingD 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeremychen9282 Actually the Mk 3 was way more popular then the MK 4 ever was before the movie. The MK 4 killed the Supra. Even left North America early because of the MK 4 they couldn't give away people just didn't want them when new. Wasn't until F&F millenials wanted the car. The movie used because they were cheap and no one wanted them at the time. The MK 2 and 3 are true Supra's beautiful cars.
@joelstatosky1817
@joelstatosky1817 3 жыл бұрын
@@damilolaakanni The mk3 actually is more of a gt car than the supra. It has a longer wheel base making it better for high speed driving. Theoretically speaking it would be safer to make big power with a mk3 than a mk4
@bengog7309
@bengog7309 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a MK3 about 6 weeks ago and I am so happy that I finally found one. Maybe it's subjective but I feel like it is getting a lot more love from media lately. I was pretty concerned that the prices would explode before I got mine.
@rushnerd
@rushnerd 2 жыл бұрын
How are you enjoying it? The prices sure as hell did explode and we didn't pick the best time to buy, but now is certainly better than what the future holds. Last year I paid $8K for the 7M-GE and an automatic, no sport package. Pretty steep, but the car was in pretty damn good shape for 116K miles and had the head gasket sorted. $10K later in fixing things, led conversion, wheels/tires/suspension, and fiberglass window louvers, she is one really expensive car haha. Looks absolutely stunning though, I couldn't think of a better vehicle ever. Gets a ton of attention.
@Wargasm54
@Wargasm54 7 күн бұрын
Hope you got her running in top shape
@dawge30
@dawge30 3 жыл бұрын
This... This is THE Supra to me. Not bubbly or cartoonish, nice straight lines, substantial... perfect.
@basithph8958
@basithph8958 3 жыл бұрын
At least this is the Supra that you can still afford and has a Turbo
@Miky9560
@Miky9560 3 жыл бұрын
And nowadays all the issues of this car are known so it's pretty easy to make them bulletproof. Plus this engine can handle a big amount of horsepower for those who want to make it really fast
@Trussme96
@Trussme96 3 жыл бұрын
Come back next year when everyone who couldn't work last year finally get enough money for a down payment on a bank loan to buy all the good ones.
@ACommenterOnYouTube
@ACommenterOnYouTube 3 жыл бұрын
Affordability is different from person to person
@devandrasimanjuntak1646
@devandrasimanjuntak1646 3 жыл бұрын
@@Trussme96 that’s true with all 90s JDMs. They’re just waiting to appreciate. Next in line is the FC, Z31, and A70. Better to start being realistic and buy a GT86/BRZ 😂
@bobiseverywhere
@bobiseverywhere 3 жыл бұрын
After more videos like this not for long. Used to have one and was hoping to again one day. That is something that is quickly disappearing for most as prices are already on the rise in many places.
@mediacritic
@mediacritic 2 жыл бұрын
My fave generation Supra.
@Tully3674
@Tully3674 3 жыл бұрын
My friends had Corvette posters in their bedrooms. My poster was a white 1990 Sopra Turbo.
@christianrorvick5412
@christianrorvick5412 3 жыл бұрын
Do one on the 1984-1989 Nissan 300zx Turbo
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 3 жыл бұрын
That would be awesome to see is well. (:
@walterreeves9883
@walterreeves9883 3 жыл бұрын
Turbo 280z is worth a mention
@jasfromspace3215
@jasfromspace3215 2 жыл бұрын
Hi just sold a z32 with only 95000ish km why do you like z31 better?
@jasfromspace3215
@jasfromspace3215 2 жыл бұрын
@@walterreeves9883 worth owning, turbo option with digital Dash is best
@jasfromspace3215
@jasfromspace3215 2 жыл бұрын
@@walterreeves9883 isn't the 280 a zx?
@Breakthehabbitzz
@Breakthehabbitzz 10 ай бұрын
One of the best videos out there on the A70. I drive my Mark 3 regularly between Denmark and the UK, and with the vacuum-operated cruise control it just eats the miles with that 70L fuel tank. Everybody waves, and everybody wants the headlights popped up! Plus, with a quick intake mod, you got all the turbo noise you'd ever want. One thing you did not mention, is to check if the car you're looking at has had its CT26 Turbo wastegate shim spaced. If there are washers or a spacer at the mounting flange on the intake side of the turbo, the car has had a rougher life than normal. Keep that in mind!
@stevenintexas6947
@stevenintexas6947 2 жыл бұрын
I owned a 1991 Toyota Supra Turbo and I wish I never traded it in. I traded it in at 70,000 miles and it never gave me one problem during the time I owned it. The motor ran smooth as silk as was very quiet at idle. I've had BMW's and Porsche's since then but I most fondly remember my Mark 3 as my favorite car. And I loved the styling.
@mowowie
@mowowie Жыл бұрын
smoothest running engine that i have ever owned..
@mikeyoung5335
@mikeyoung5335 3 жыл бұрын
At 19 years old this was my first car!! A 1988 supra targa turbo( bought for $7,100ca in 1998) it was an amazing car,that i drove always and everywhere. Got it at 147000km, sadly sold it 4years later but with 330000km, so yeah Sam it really can eat up the miles.. Now 19years later and i still miss this car. Alot of memories with this car,(friends,great road trips and my wife,lost the car but kept her👍)
@755hp
@755hp 3 жыл бұрын
I love my two Mk3 Supras: - 1988 5psd w/ a 2JZGTE engine swapped in - 1992 auto sunroof/hardtop 7MGE
@ACommenterOnYouTube
@ACommenterOnYouTube 3 жыл бұрын
I had a customer that had 3 of these in his driveway and all 3 were running.
@AngelofZul
@AngelofZul 3 жыл бұрын
Lucky son of a..
@kylewise3111
@kylewise3111 3 жыл бұрын
Well hello MK3 buddy! I also have an 88, my 2jgte is at a local supra shop being built as we speak lol. My my chassis is a bit of a project though lol
@755hp
@755hp 3 жыл бұрын
@@kylewise3111 Yeah, never had “shop-money”; I did the swap myself and learned a lot. However, hopefully you’re getting a quality build done.
@kylewise3111
@kylewise3111 3 жыл бұрын
@@755hp me either tbh, I always built my own stuff. This car though I wanted to have peace of mind with the engine since it needed a rebuild anyways (got it for $80 with piston and head damage), but the swap will be all on my own lol
@xyzebruh1083
@xyzebruh1083 2 жыл бұрын
My first car... the 1989 Toyota Supra Turbo in a red and grey cloth trim, targa top, and 5spd R154 transmission. That was 18 years ago, I still own that car :)
@xyzebruh1083
@xyzebruh1083 2 жыл бұрын
oh and 100ft lbs on the ARP head bolts and she'll run forever
@trydrew
@trydrew 3 жыл бұрын
I've owned nearly this exact same car for more than 15 years, and you have done it justice. Also, for potential buyers, this guide is excellently researched. One more thing that may be worth mentioning however, is that the cam bolts on the lower suspension arm tend to seize within the arm bushings, causing them to need less than favorable means of extraction (and replacement) to get a good alignment. Account for this costly potential if the car does not track well.
@rushnerd
@rushnerd 2 жыл бұрын
My 88 does not pull to the left or right and seems just dandy, but I did put coilovers on, a sway bar, and new 17" wheels and tires. I was thinking about getting an alignment just because I guess you probably should after all that, but I wonder if the issue you mentioned would get in the way of that.
@JesseTorres305
@JesseTorres305 2 жыл бұрын
Had a 87’ turbo in midnight blue. Amazing to drive.
@Mas___SD
@Mas___SD 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely excellent video. As an owner of a MK3 for nearly 15 years, you hit every single one of the key points. Well done!
@rushnerd
@rushnerd 2 жыл бұрын
Any tips for a newer MK3 owner after all that time? My head gasket is sorted, all new wheels/tires/suspention/swaybar/all fluids/AC converted. It's only a 7M-GE, but at 117K miles I want to make sure it's on the road for as long as possible. Only thing so far was a power steering leak and some hoses fixed that, doesn't seem to play nice with LED headlights, but that's just a gripe.
@wakjob961
@wakjob961 3 жыл бұрын
Really appreciating this part of Hagerty... I love learning about this kinda stuff.
@mmike855
@mmike855 2 жыл бұрын
I had an 89 Supra, and loved every second of owning it. Wonderful, wonderful car.
@kmac540
@kmac540 3 жыл бұрын
So happy to see you at Hagerty Sam! They seemed to have scooped up all the good ones lately.
@flex215
@flex215 3 жыл бұрын
My first car was an 89 Supra NA. Manual Non turbo with targa top. It was around 2006 so all my boys laughed at me for a little bit until I fixed and was fishtailing out of the parking lot. Good times, then I blew the head gaskets. Essington Ave, Philly 🥺
@rushnerd
@rushnerd 2 жыл бұрын
This year I remembered this cool "Supra" my dad had 20 years ago that had super comfy bucket seats and I loved it. So I decided to pick one up this year (not the best timing with prices lol). It's a hell of an experience. It's absolutely gorgeous and solid inside and out, easily the nicest car I've been in and I think the interior is one of the best ever made. Way different from all the econo cars I'm used to; the Supra is pretty huge doesn't exactly move like my lil' Camry. Never been so in love with a car though, the MKIII is a thrill to drive everyday and I always look forward to it.
@kevinbarrett8802
@kevinbarrett8802 9 ай бұрын
Awesome indeed Toyota guy. Ole faithful dependable Camry alongside classic supra is an awesome combo.
@rushnerd
@rushnerd 9 ай бұрын
@@kevinbarrett8802 Well I realized I'd probably have that granny Camry the rest of my life so I sold it and bought a 01' Celica GT-S. Way more my style and it's a blast to drive and corners amazingly well. Still looks like a modern car IMO.
@ThatsDT
@ThatsDT 2 жыл бұрын
This is still my dream car . Remember my grandma had one that was burgundy with burgundy interior
@mowowie
@mowowie Жыл бұрын
I had the same color combo. The metallic flake side door trim was amazing looking. Beautiful
@emeraldages
@emeraldages 2 жыл бұрын
Finally. Thank you someone touches on this like a comfy gt semi luxury car. People forget this came out before Lexus was a brand. They were luxury tech packed comfortable rides
@jeffreyfrischer27
@jeffreyfrischer27 3 жыл бұрын
My Dad bought this car,you are watching, brand new. I bought it from him in 2008. Loved this!!! I did all the repairs ,talked about in the report, myself. It was a labor of love!! Unfortunately it spent a lot of time in storage, I didn't have enough time to enjoy, bummer. I sold it in 2019 to the gentleman, who obviously loves it as much as my family had. Enjoy Thanks DAD RIP SEPT 2020.
@jasfromspace3215
@jasfromspace3215 2 жыл бұрын
Jas from space on you tube
@jasfromspace3215
@jasfromspace3215 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that you have lost your dad bloke chin up and C Jas from space on you tube
@Zarkdx97
@Zarkdx97 3 жыл бұрын
I remember riding in my dads Mk3 supra, good times
@lansonfloyd4687
@lansonfloyd4687 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhh its my precious! I owned two of these. NOT a good example of Toyota reliability, but I loved those money pits so much.
@lansonfloyd4687
@lansonfloyd4687 2 жыл бұрын
If I were building a 3rd one, I would install the 1JZ engine with modest turbo(s), because the 7MGTE engine has a lot of faults. I rebuilt 4 if I can remember right. Two turbo, two non. I thought I got it "bulletproof" on the 4th one with Cometic metal gaskets and ARP studs, but really its just a problematic engine compared with other Toyota units. Back then we were just learning of the travesty of these incorrect head gasket torques, and this was before Internet and bulletin boards were very prolific, so info was limited. Because it was a pretty rare car (in my area anyway - I was the only one driving one in the town by what can remember), we just didn't know the problems they had. In fact the first one had the "birdcage" light on when I bought it (I later found and bought a factory owners manual which told me it was the coolant level warning signal), which - of course now we know - meant the head was blown and leaking/burning coolant. I was unaware of any issues of Toyota's mistake back then...maybe I just thought that it was a Toyota, what could possibly go wrong? That one threw a rod through the block pretty quick...only a few weeks! Toyota really should have stood up and owned the problem they created with a recall, but they just didn't and at the time, nobody I knew had an idea of what the heck happened. A reman'd engine went in, and later I bought a Turbo but I knew of the problem pretty well by then. I proudly owned examples of these fine cars when I was in my late teens (89 and 91T), and I tried my best to keep them running on a shoestring budget, with minimal mods, minimal skill and knowledge, but maximum love. The interior was a wonderful place to spend thousands of miles and it only left me stranded a couple times. The car has a personality that, like the 240sx, can be "sticky" to its owners.
@jasfromspace3215
@jasfromspace3215 2 жыл бұрын
This is going to be MY second, the first was a NA black and beautiful beast.
@rushnerd
@rushnerd 2 жыл бұрын
@@lansonfloyd4687 The birdcage light just refers to the coolant overflow tank. The lid (for whatever reason) does not fit right on mine so I think it evaporates out. I think you can probably always activate that light briefly if you corner hard enough. I definitely don't have a blown HG, it's been fixed.
@lansonfloyd4687
@lansonfloyd4687 2 жыл бұрын
@@rushnerd hey if that's all it is, then grabbing a new coolant tank should solve your issues. With a car this old (now) that's a blessing. Side note - I have no budget to buy one but I spotted a gray one sitting in a yard about a mile from my house. Not even sure if it's for sale or not but from 50 ft away the body/exterior looks pretty good as I drive by it once or twice a day. Sigh....not good for Supra addicts like me
@rushnerd
@rushnerd 2 жыл бұрын
@@lansonfloyd4687 I've heard this story a few times hah, they are ALWAYS for sale if it's like that (eventually). I've yet to ever see any model of Supra in the wild though, most people have no clue what the hell I'm driving. At this point buying any Sup just to part it out pretty much pays for itself!
@michaelteret4763
@michaelteret4763 3 жыл бұрын
I want a Mk2 Supra instead, please do an episode on that one too.
@755hp
@755hp 3 жыл бұрын
And when you get it, I suggest swapping a 7MGTE engine in it with a small Garrett GTX Gen2 turbo (GTX2876r, GTX2976r, etc); comes into boost quick with lots of torque. Also, I’d suggest building the bottom end to a 10:1 compression ratio; this helps spool the turbo incredibly quick. But you will need pull back ignition timing as the 7Ms don’t have crank sensors (based off exhaust cam sensor); so when the belt stretches, timing can jump (advance) momentarily causing knock.
@redgreen6436
@redgreen6436 3 жыл бұрын
I suggest swapping in a slant six
@lancecooper4646
@lancecooper4646 3 жыл бұрын
@@redgreen6436 UTG 👍
@anthonyfrench3169
@anthonyfrench3169 3 жыл бұрын
This honestly is my favorite generation of Supra and my 17 year old self wants to say thank you!!!
@detroitdawg81
@detroitdawg81 Жыл бұрын
Yeh they were nice until the engine starts knocking, I had 2 die on me and hated Toyota for building a faulty engine
@thecaffenist
@thecaffenist 3 жыл бұрын
As a former MK3 owner, this is excellent.
@mattfinlay7476
@mattfinlay7476 2 жыл бұрын
How's the reliability ?
@suave605
@suave605 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattfinlay7476 it’s good.
@suave605
@suave605 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattfinlay7476 wouldn’t say it’s like brand new honda reliable but it’s pretty good for a 1990s GT/Sports car.
@wzop9110
@wzop9110 2 жыл бұрын
As a current MK3 owner, still excellent.
@DeanRam23
@DeanRam23 3 жыл бұрын
What?! Just stumbled on your channel and did not expect a Mark 3 Supra video. Badass!
@KG-bi9iq
@KG-bi9iq 3 жыл бұрын
Watches video while looking out my window at my white package 89 supra 👌
@jpguzman3901
@jpguzman3901 3 жыл бұрын
I still can't believe this is the car my mom got for college...
@suave605
@suave605 2 жыл бұрын
Sick
@99unclebob
@99unclebob 3 жыл бұрын
great review , best friend bought one of the first turbos sold in our city and we drove it year round and did ok with winter tires then he decided to keep it for 3 season driving, your bang on about it being along distance car it went from coast to coast in Canada several times and also in the USA and it never left him stranded anywhere on these trips the maintenance was always done or done ahead of time and this car had the best A/C above any car in its class and did fine inCalifornia, Texas and Arizona , it was $27,000 new before tax he later sold it after his first kiddo was born for a 4Runner , it had about 100k miles when he sold it, great vehicles 👍
@Lightdasher360
@Lightdasher360 3 жыл бұрын
Tons of info here and helpful perspectives on what might be best to consider between so many different options. I say you're really improving with these buyer's guides!
@jasfromspace3215
@jasfromspace3215 2 жыл бұрын
C Jas from space on you tube
@LunarOutlawsGarage
@LunarOutlawsGarage 3 жыл бұрын
The A70 / MK3 Toyota supra was my first car and it is my favorite car. I’ve owned six of them over the the past 17 years, and I have had at least one at any given time since I was 14. One of my current projects is a one 1UZFE swapped 1989. I have to say this was a spot on write up absolutely an awesome job.
@miguelacuna3103
@miguelacuna3103 2 жыл бұрын
Same here first car, had six of them and waiting to get number 7
@alangil40
@alangil40 3 жыл бұрын
My wife and I owned a beautiful pearl white 1987 Supra Turbo with matching white wheels - 6 speed manual. Get this, we bought it used in 1990 just after we were married with about 40k miles for only $11,000. We kept it for 6 years and put 100k of our own miles on it. It was relatively trouble free, though we did have some cooling system issues and I was getting worried about the head gasket issue towards the end. For the era, it was a fast enough car - as fast as my 1986 Mustang GT with as much power as a C4 Corvette. I cant think of many non-exotic cars that were that much faster until later in the 90s. We felt pretty upscale in it as well and driving with the targa top off was an additional treat, though it was pretty flexy. A few years later I sold my Mustang GT and bought a used 1990 300zx Twin Turbo and so I was fortunate enough to own both these Japanese relatively iconic cars together for a few years.
@alangil40
@alangil40 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, and I thought it was better looking that the Mark IV - as you say, more grown up looking. Mostly due to the huge wing on the Mark IV turbo which I thought at the time took away some of the sophistication. Not that I didn't love the 325hp of the Mark IV - but by then I had the Z32 300zx Twin Turbo, so we eventually replaced the Supra with a Lexus SC300 (which I didn't like) before going all German.
@HaroldTempoyoink
@HaroldTempoyoink 3 жыл бұрын
The quality of Hargety's videos is simply marvellous!
@MrTexasDan
@MrTexasDan 3 жыл бұрын
I had an 88 turbo. Aside from the blown head gasket, it was such a terrific car. I miss it.I can still remember the silky smooth sound of that I6.
@demusp316
@demusp316 3 жыл бұрын
I got a 89 MK3 Supra. Love it. Great video.
@damnsilly666
@damnsilly666 3 жыл бұрын
I miss my 91. That was a good car, even tho it was an automatic.
@DyingTiger
@DyingTiger 2 жыл бұрын
I had a 89. Cry myself to sleep every night since the night it broke down and I had to sell it.
@TheMrFlyBoy18
@TheMrFlyBoy18 2 жыл бұрын
Get another one
@DyingTiger
@DyingTiger 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMrFlyBoy18 working on it. But they cost 4x as much now
@scottallen8950
@scottallen8950 2 жыл бұрын
Had a 91 in white....definitely car
@Cartier_specialist
@Cartier_specialist 3 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic buyer's guide and review of the Mark III Supra.
@davidcchi3373
@davidcchi3373 3 жыл бұрын
Love love love your videos. Great info and well shot. Can’t wait for more vids
@TancheapMcFatass
@TancheapMcFatass 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 26 years old, the MK3 has literally been my dream car since I was 14 when I discovered one sitting under a car cover at my dad's tow truck yard. When I was 18 I bought one with a blown motor but life kept smacking me in the face financially and I had to sell it before it ever got the chance to run. Nowadays they're so expensive I'd have to win the lottery to ever own one
@lewis.davila
@lewis.davila 2 жыл бұрын
Keep looking around, I'm sure you'll manage to pick one up for like 4k
@rushnerd
@rushnerd 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, get one ASAP. Go for an auto and naturally aspirated, they are much cheaper. They are hiking in value and it's not going to stop. Sadly they are MUCH more expensive now than a few years ago, but at this point it's an investment. You can find some pretty damn decent deals out there if you look around long enough. I scored mine off of Craig's list for $8K, which is very steep for an auto NA, but it was in fantastic shape. I've seen them go for half that.
@lewis.davila
@lewis.davila 2 жыл бұрын
@@rushnerd the NA autio is so much easier to get a hold of, because everyone wants the turbo/manual, but that's all the better for us.
@detroitdawg81
@detroitdawg81 Жыл бұрын
U dodged a bullet I had 2 both engines died on me, I spent 4k in engine repairs in the 90s working at $5.15 an hour job so yeh not really a Toyota more like a pinto
@YourMom-vl2sp
@YourMom-vl2sp 3 жыл бұрын
I converted mine to a twin scroll big turbo. Love it!
@pgrens
@pgrens 2 жыл бұрын
These Buyer's Guides are great, please keep them coming!
@jasfromspace3215
@jasfromspace3215 2 жыл бұрын
You tube Jas from space
@wtfsauce1
@wtfsauce1 3 жыл бұрын
Great information! One thing to mention is the fuel filter. It's directly above the rear differential and a total pain in the ass to change.
@MegaMrWookiee
@MegaMrWookiee 3 жыл бұрын
Great review! I had an 86.5 NA and an 89 Turbo. I'm glad you emphasized this cars strength. It was a spectacular GT car. I drove it 7 hours with no stops, and I had zero fatigue from it. Being 6'6" and around 250lbs, it's rare for me to find a car that's even comfortable on a short trip. Miles just melted away with this car. It also had good chassis balance. It was very easy to control in a slide and was much more nimble than its weight implied. I miss them. I have a manual SC300 now, but there were definitely some things the MA70 did better.
@ZombieTapdance
@ZombieTapdance 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 6"5 and 300lb it was the same. I fell into this car but was looking for a Dodge Magnum with a Hemi to manual swap. So glad my buddy talked me into the Supra. It just feels so good. Drove my friends 500whp is300 and I just felt like I was going to break it, but not the soup! I'd take that any day even with 50whp less
@rushnerd
@rushnerd 2 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on the NA vs your turbo? I have no idea what the GTE is like since I only have an 88 NA. I understand it's not a massive difference, but I am curious. Kinda sucks when you have the version of the car no one talks about or seems to want, but then again I think it's plenty fast and should have less issues than a GTE.
@rushnerd
@rushnerd 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZombieTapdance Yeah it's literally the most comfortable car I've ever driven, those cloth seats are something you couldn't even beat in a new car today. Long road trips are a blast. Pretty hilarious you mentioned that the is300 felt like it was going to fall apart lol. I never thought about it much, but the Supra really is solid as hell, I would take that over some souped up civic.
@MegaMrWookiee
@MegaMrWookiee 2 жыл бұрын
@@rushnerd on paper, the numbers aren't that different, but the turbo had considerably more midrange power, so it pulled much better at most speeds. The suspension, steering, and brakes are the same, so they feel pretty much identical other than that. My turbo did have appreciably better steering feel, but that was due to the revised power steering on all '89 Supras.
@baggycamera4825
@baggycamera4825 3 жыл бұрын
I love my Mk3 Supra 🔥🔥🙏💕
@racer193wr
@racer193wr 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again to Hagerty... love the shows. You should do one of these on the mazda 626 gt turbo either 86-87 or the 88-91 had both and loved them.
@Barton_Motors_Ltd
@Barton_Motors_Ltd 2 жыл бұрын
This was really well done Great channel
@jeffjohnson204
@jeffjohnson204 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Been thinking about this car, very informal.
@Ricky_H
@Ricky_H 2 жыл бұрын
Very good detailed review. Thanks!
@kevinbarrett8802
@kevinbarrett8802 9 ай бұрын
Really miss driving my mk3. Been side tracked with life and other projects but videos like this and the many mk3 Supra forums keep me hopeful.
@izaaka70
@izaaka70 2 жыл бұрын
very comprehensive assessment of the 7m! great job guys, in regards to transmissions btw they have 3 available transmissions, a weaker 5 speed manual in the non turbo (w58), a strong 5 speed manual (r154), and of course the sloshbox 4spd auto (a340). However a modified a70 chassis these days is still quiet the performer and not to mention how dam good the 7m sounds when opened up!
@rushnerd
@rushnerd 2 жыл бұрын
Even my 7M-GE with the sloshbox is the best sounding car I've ever heard (dual tip exhaust.) At start up alone it sounds like it has MUCH more power than it actually does, I love it.
@wusaint
@wusaint 3 жыл бұрын
Great guide that covered a TON of stuff that mostly only the community knows about. However, I did catch one minor mistake or oversight. The MK3 Supra actually came with 3 transmissions. The manual in the turbo and non-turbo variants are extremely different. The non-turbo had the W58 trans which was a traditional push style clutch. The turbo had the R154 which was a pull style clutch and a heck of a lot stronger 😉
@alexpaumen3937
@alexpaumen3937 3 жыл бұрын
Little fun fact for you. In the original Back to the Future script, the vehicle that Marty wanted was going to be a Supra (instead of a SR5 Pickup) except it was older than this one.
@sleekskyline120
@sleekskyline120 3 жыл бұрын
That's funny, I just watched the first movie last night lol.
@eriksantoso1741
@eriksantoso1741 3 жыл бұрын
The supra was quite futuristic btw
@Designer_TopG
@Designer_TopG 2 жыл бұрын
@@sleekskyline120 Just say bttf last night again.
@mry82
@mry82 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe this guy know so much about cars and makes such great beer!
@Craigmayville
@Craigmayville 4 ай бұрын
As a former owner of three MKIIIs and one MKIV, I appreciate this review. My MKIV had 136K on it when I sold it, and it ran and drove like new. My last MKIII had 331K on it when I sold it. I drove it daily and surprised a buddy with a modified E92 M3 with only an intake and full cat-less exhaust. He also owned a Cayman GT4, 458, M4 GTS, and couldn’t believe the MKIII was so fast. Other owners of both generations agree there’s something different about the MKIII to appreciate.
@admiralrng6506
@admiralrng6506 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for appreciating the prices of these things man
@dzrotary
@dzrotary 3 жыл бұрын
I swapped an 7mgte into a Volvo 240 wagon is a heck of a sleeper. Thanks for the review.
@vinmangob8555
@vinmangob8555 2 жыл бұрын
I loved my 1987 supra, still wish I had it.
@c.french450
@c.french450 3 жыл бұрын
My 1990 was a blast. Great car.
@MrEvol300
@MrEvol300 3 жыл бұрын
I brought a mk3 a black one back in 2001 it was 5spd manual widebody ,taga top, 1g-gte the price was $12995 nzd i miss the burn outs .
@HorsepowerIndustries
@HorsepowerIndustries 3 жыл бұрын
I had a pleasure of owning a few A70 Supra Turbo and non-turbo models for the past 15 years. very good and stable cars, especially when its modded. I hope I kept at least one because now the values of these cars has risen up on the past couple of years! I also used to own a few A60 Supras as well. back then I can buy one for $240-300 from an old lady in my town, now even those cars are worth over $3000-5000 usd!!
@themadscientest
@themadscientest Жыл бұрын
One of these with an automatic, throw a good aftermarket exhaust on that isn't loud, and put some good tires on it. That is an absolute dream car because it would be a comfortable nice car to take on roads like the ones in this video.
@mowowie
@mowowie Жыл бұрын
Yea the car was sooo smooooth... i can't tell you how many time i went to start it while it was already running. so quiet and so smooth...until you punched it with the turbo..
@rushnerd
@rushnerd 9 ай бұрын
That along with Fortune 500 coilovers and a beefy whiteline front swaybar on full stiff make ALL the difference. She handles absolutely incredible with next to no body roll after that. I think the stock exhaust sounds absolutely incredible, but mine is certainly old and needs to be replaced.
@MrWarrenD
@MrWarrenD 3 жыл бұрын
This guy does great reviews
@davidroberts6594
@davidroberts6594 3 жыл бұрын
Never find pretty much any car of this year in as good a shape as this one. This was probably a weekend car that lived in a garage, never seen salt, not even one year of it. Nice find, lucky who ever owns this one.
@6rimR3ap3r
@6rimR3ap3r 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 91 turbo automatic with targa roof. Less than 54.000km, running like a clockwork :-) Wanted either a Supra or a Porsche 944 and was lucky to get a Supra one owner car from someone I know. Seen the car as a kid, now it's mine for already 10 years.
@AW_DIY_garage
@AW_DIY_garage Жыл бұрын
great video. thank you.
@ChavaYang
@ChavaYang 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@333KINGPIN33
@333KINGPIN33 3 жыл бұрын
Yesssssss hagerty has reviewed one!!!
@vasbott1
@vasbott1 3 жыл бұрын
Great video👍🏻
@CierielKiler
@CierielKiler 3 жыл бұрын
I was just looking for one of these this morning too!
@ianspeckmaier9565
@ianspeckmaier9565 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck, did you find/purchase one? They're well worth it if you're up for tackling the standard issues.
@SickStreets4K
@SickStreets4K 3 жыл бұрын
An incredible gt car from the factory. Built mine as a highway monster with a 2jz, and while it has been expensive to get to where it's at which makes me consider a sale at times, I floor it and forget all about that.
@bryangates3142
@bryangates3142 2 жыл бұрын
Had the same one in grey...loved it!!! Now I have a 370z love it even more
@tima6549
@tima6549 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, didn't realize people were paying that much for these. I almost bought a running and driving NA car for $400 several years ago, but it needed a little work. Should have snagged it up.
@sambone8213
@sambone8213 2 жыл бұрын
My first car. Found in a bargain lot for $2500 in August of 2000. Automatic Targa. Found out the hard way it had a leaking head gasket. I've lots of interesting cars come and go over the last 20 years but I remember that car very fondly. Finding an original survivor is definitely on the bucket list, with a manual this time ;)
@rushnerd
@rushnerd 2 жыл бұрын
Uhg that price HURTS haha. My dad bought the same one around that time for the same money. Last year I picked an 88 up with 116K miles auto/targa/NA for $8K. Didn't pick the best time to buy haha, but it was in excellent shape with the headgasket fixed. Already $10K into the car on getting it up to date and upgrades, what a moneypit, but I absolutely adore her. Get her again because the prices REALLY skyrocket man, this is the best car I've ever seen or drove.
@sayerma
@sayerma 3 жыл бұрын
When I was 21 I imported to Australia 1989. Targa, grey, manual, 7MGTE, digital dash, TEMS. What a combo, probably didn't appreciate it at the time. Was a daily driver, out to work and back every day. Wish I still had it now as a weekender. Such a presence on the road, lots of folk used to ask what it was at the lights. Guy I sold it to, to help fund a year backpacking overseas, was a fucking wanker which made it even worse. Owned it 3 years, never had an issue. Was an awesome car.
@Andreas1931
@Andreas1931 Жыл бұрын
Mk3 Supra is beautiful, my favorite Supra 😍
@cornishrider
@cornishrider 3 жыл бұрын
In the mid 90's here in England at the Jaguar Dealership I worked at we took a couple of these in P/X against Jaguar XJS's, had no problem in re selling them, I'd really like a white one now!
@2002WS6
@2002WS6 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 1992 Supra it’s an automatic but it’s all stock. The turbo option was an extra 40 hp I believe. Mine has a sunroof leather thumbs up all the time. The color is teal I think Toyota calls it mica green.
@NuGanjaTron
@NuGanjaTron 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent & objective review! Yeah, they were built for a specific purpose, and should be considered only within those limits. The reliability -- considering the age -- is remarkable, but as pointed out, the head gaskets and the leaky targa roof are major weaknesses to watch out for. One of the telltale signs of failing head gaskets is a gurgling sound behind the dash when accelerating from a standstill; that's cylinder pressure leaking into the heating system. The other is coolant in the #6 cylinder, which is crammed right up against the bulkhead, by which time that cylinder will no longer fire anyway; then it's high time to replace the gaskets. It took me a while to get into the habit of idling the engine when making stops on the Autobahn. Haven't had issues with the turbo yet, but then I don't floor it anymore. Also, if you're considering registering your 30-yo Mk3 as vintage (which significantly reduces insurance premiums and road tax) make sure it hasn't been modded; in Germany, at least, the vehicle must be in original condition to qualify for vintage status. EDIT: I forgot to mention the chassis wobbles and creaks significantly without the targa roof. This is normal, but can be alarming for those with a nervous disposition. :^D
@gtawally
@gtawally Жыл бұрын
Oh, the head gasket!! AND, THE WARPED CRANKSHAFT. This was the last used car I ever bought
@mowowie
@mowowie Жыл бұрын
ahhh....the old gurgling sound.... Toyota punted with that one.
@ServeraServera0
@ServeraServera0 2 жыл бұрын
10:26 Prices depend on the country too Saw several MK3s for second hand where most of them were 8-15k EUR
@evanshireman5644
@evanshireman5644 2 жыл бұрын
I like the mk3 more than the mk4 too. Not as overhyped and are nearly as good
@jasfromspace3215
@jasfromspace3215 2 жыл бұрын
Yes me 2 @ Jas from space @ you tube
@iheartgs400
@iheartgs400 3 жыл бұрын
They very first manual car I learned I had the 88 Turbo with the R154 long ass throws but damn that shifter was rock solid bought it for $3800 back in 2001 at 96K miles I enjoyed the heck out of it but hated the little nagging issues the 7M had until I sold it at 125K then few months later the HG gave up on the next owner.
@alexanderfaust4192
@alexanderfaust4192 Жыл бұрын
My girlfriend in high school had one of these - white with tan leather interior. I think she got it in 96 or 97. I was driving a 1964 and a half red hard top Mustang. She would outrun me almost all the time lol. Her father also let her drive his 72 pearl white Corvette and a mid 60's model Cadillac around from time to time as well. We would do a lot of other things in those cars other than race if you know what I mean ;) Man those were the days!
@swanblake
@swanblake 3 жыл бұрын
Great job on this Sam. Such great info. Feels weird to say but I appreciate that Toyota actually use to build there flagship Supra.
@damilolaakanni
@damilolaakanni 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think the Supra is their flagship anymore...I don't think it ever was. That should be the LandCruiser.
@shawnramito4863
@shawnramito4863 3 жыл бұрын
@@damilolaakanni And the corolla
@bananas401k
@bananas401k 3 жыл бұрын
i have an 87 one, fun as hell car
@brandont8114
@brandont8114 9 ай бұрын
Well made video.
@lyttonwilliams7161
@lyttonwilliams7161 3 жыл бұрын
Now that is my dream automobile 🚘. It is hard to find 1.
@SolamenteVees
@SolamenteVees 3 жыл бұрын
Host says “damper.” *subscribed*
@PenttiHuttunenGlobetrotter
@PenttiHuttunenGlobetrotter 3 жыл бұрын
this is the one and only Supra for me. There was a Celica Supra earlier before this.
@kocampo86
@kocampo86 Жыл бұрын
My dad was a Toyota mechanic and still had to replace the head gasket like 3x and rebuild the transmission twice in 5 years on his MKIII turbo. I drove it and an NA version and they handle like boats but gripped well (the turbo with LSD is actually controllable during drifts). Always tempted but they’re just not reliable with the 7mgte
@redgreen6436
@redgreen6436 3 жыл бұрын
This one is plenty famous from Gran Turismo game.
@St.PatricksTrades2
@St.PatricksTrades2 3 жыл бұрын
I'm the very proud owner of a 1990 Supra Twin Turbo R, imported from the Japanese auction network. Driving one of those compared to an american spec A70, which is still a great car, makes you realize just how bad the US market got watered down when it came to getting the best of the best trims.
@TheDanavanhuber
@TheDanavanhuber 2 жыл бұрын
sigh digital dash
@thecoreelementsmoto
@thecoreelementsmoto 3 жыл бұрын
Man I wish these and the z31 had not shot up in price so high the last 24 months
@cmase1991
@cmase1991 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent accurate info! (for once in a youtube video). If anyone buys one of these, make sure you like working on cars lol but they're great
@chrisdooley6468
@chrisdooley6468 3 жыл бұрын
Eye watering price lol. I looked at a mint example in the early 2000’s and should’ve jumped on it at the $5k asking price 🤦 the thing was a garage queen
@resto-proinc5191
@resto-proinc5191 3 жыл бұрын
My '89 turbo was my first "real car". Man I loved it, the Targa top was awesome
@supraman221989
@supraman221989 2 жыл бұрын
I love my 87 supra got it when I was 17 I'm 32 now and doing a 2jz swap
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