it’s normalized to be rude to strangers: a respond to tiffanyferg.

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timestamps!
0:00 intro
1:48 tiffany’s video
3:37 my maddy perez video
6:35 total drama, descendants, miraculous ladybug
8:13 aggresuko season 3
13:10 louella parsons and hedda hopper
16:25 being mean gets the most attention
18:38 the rebrand of xonecole
22:09 closing thoughts

[@orangeblossom9168]

One thing I hate is people who are rude under the guise of being “blunt” or “telling it like it is”. There’s a difference between being honest and just being plain rude

[@peachyevren5789]

Honestly, I'm kind of like that and I know it sucks. I'm really trying to change because I don't wanna hurt the ones I love by thinking being mean is just "my way of flirting or showing affection". I need to do a lot of self-reflection and am ready to become a nicer person because why be mean to your loved ones??? It doesn't make sense. It really doesn't. I should show them affection and love instead of being mean!!!

[@kevonhankerson2124]

I definitely agree i know plenty of people who be justifying there rudeness by saying they are being honest like no your being an ass 😬🥴

[@justajournalist]

THISSSSS

[@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254]

A movie called "Only The Lonely" called that out. Very good.

[@rinibunny4576]

It’s hard though because it is kind of subjective since everyone draws the line differently… but yes it is annoying when people say something mean and it is meant to be “blunt”

[@streo4342]

This obsession with "mean" characters eventually transitions into real life. I know a girl who is in my opinion noticeably basing her attitude on Maddy. (from euphoria)

[@chickofmusic001]

They think it’s cute. Why can’t people pretend to be KIND and NICE character? Because most mean characters are not liked for a reason…

[@badtzmaro]

@Sara Moustamandi yeah, from the clips of her thats what honestly made me not want to watch the show, her attitude constantly being angry really annoyed me.

[@nyxpasithea84]

@@badtzmaro I think Maddy is right for it tho. Cassie was suppose to be her best friend and then slept with her abusive ex very soon after their break up so. Cassie deserves what's coming to her.

[@badtzmaro]

@@nyxpasithea84 eh think what you wanna think, I don't watch the show so I only went off of clips I saw

[@maddyclere4884]

Maddys not rude tho. Like she was so supportive of cassie last season only for cassie to betray her in s2. Ppl call her a bitch but shes just confident in herself

[@Chowderchef]

Fandom is so fuckin wild, when I was 13 I was told by older teens and adults to k*ll myself cause I had different opinions on video games. Im 22 now and Ive had less nasty experiences but people are especially meaner the younger someone is online x_____x

[@kerisaltchannel3817]

Im so sorry!

[@Lilothestitch]

I’m so sorry.

[@jbalvinmomsbiggestfan]

im so sorry about that. i dont understand why grown adults want to spend their time bullying kids over video games.

[@chickofmusic001]

Who the f does that? Over cartoons and fictional stories/characters?? I used to be a punk and argue with other teens or adults online. But I would never put someone who is younger than me down (emotional developing children don’t need that negativity) , and (no matter who) even tell others to off themselves. I was a little punk/brat but I knew not to cross the line, because I would never say that irl anyway.

[@ascotcult]

so sorry to hear. /g

[@ImaniVersus]

I remember in highschool I asked one of the popular girls to pass me my backpack real quick cause we was moving seats for a project and I ain’t wanna get back up. The girl stared at me, sighed, riled her eyes, and threw it to me. Just mean as hell for no reason. Barely spoke to the girl.

[@selenahadid3658]

It is always the popular girls. I also have those girls in my school and what dumb is they think being popular is a flex and smthg special but it's actually not. Such a stupid mindset 🤢

[@dillard753]

I think it's deeper than just being mean to strangers. I think hierarchies and power dynamics affect our lives so much that when we are powerless in one aspect, we turn and create a hierarchy to take back the power that's been take from us. Consequently, we aren't mean to strangers but rather we feel emboldened to be mean to those we think are supposed to serve us even if they are complete strangers. Celebrities are meant to shut up an entertain us they way we want and when we want just like waiters, cashiers, bartenders, etc. In a capitalist society where everything is a commodity, we feel entitle to people just like we feel entitled to things/property. Even children. They are to be seen and not heard and do as they're told without questions or opinions. Anything less than servitude is disrespect. Thus one's own agency is often perceived as selfish and disrespectful to someone else.

[@CandicePoe]

This was really insightful.

[@mitskiluvr420]

wow, this makes a lot of sense. even politeness is becoming a commodity like anything else.

[@thepinkestpigglet7529]

You say capitalism is to blame but let me tell you about feudalism

[@irishrosiesx3]

👏👏👏

[@violettbellerose1173]

You snapped and were completely spot on 👏

[@paulettejordan8505]

I can't believe that people were being disrespectful and bullying because you said that it's wrong to be rude. They're literally proving your point. You're right, fandoms bring out the worst in people.

[@Lilothestitch]

Facts

[@Luna-pt3vh]

Yes, it's why I try to stay away from fandoms and mind my own business. It's not fun anymore, it's full of toxicity and drama.

[@selenahadid3658]

SO TRUE!!!

[@erinniccoinn1gh]

'it's cute to be a bad bitch, it's not cute to be a straight up bitch' i think you just wrote a proverb :)

[@Lilothestitch]

I honestly hate that unhinged fan from Aggretsuko. What he did to Retsuko was unacceptable. I would never want to be that guy. This kinda reminds me of how a fan harassed a Anime VA at a convention in 2019 and that fan threatened to kill me and doxxed me. It also reminds me of what happened to Christina Grimmie. RIP Christina Grimmie.

[@sophiebear2248]

I’ve heard of Christina Grimmie. What happened to her is so sad

[@xx_lunar_tears_xx8432]

It also reminds me of the case of Bianca devins

[@otakutoongamer5616]

Reminds me of Selena Quintanilla, talented young woman who was killed by her toxic fan/assistant

[@mariazeredo6657]

Reminds of Dimebag Darrel a guitarist shot dead on stage by a crazy angry fan

[@Lilothestitch]

@@otakutoongamer5616 Oh my god. So horrible. I’m scared of being a toxic fan.

[@purplezombie4940]

Bruh I'm so sick of being polite to strangers who don't try to give me the same curiosity. 18 years of being used as a doormate has me so tried

[@danbrielle]

The Euphoria fandom is beginning to disgust me. They are obsessed and not in a healthy way.

[@thegalacticprincess2322]

The Euphoria fandom on Reddit annoys me, Like they get upset if you have an really unpopular opinion, some will call people out of their name and get butthurt like crazy

[@BraffWaffle]

People want to be “shady” or “sassy” as an endearing personality trait but they just flop and end up being rude for no reason. “I tell it like it is sis” 🙄

[@zking2929]

That's so true

[@VirginiaDowdy777821]

I've never got why people praised mean characters/celebrities so much. I bet if those mean characters/celebrities were being mean/disrespectful to the people who praise them for their disgusting behaviors, those people would get SOOOOOOO pissed off and wouldn't be fans of them anymore.

[@VirginiaDowdy777821]

@ǞЯƮΦЯiǞ РęПDЯǞgΦП Riiigghhtt?!

[@Jessica.Shawnte]

So what? It’s fictional tv the people are fake not every character has to be a Mary Sue or morally good

[@HwasaHottieXSolarMoon]

They think it’s a mood too like wah

[@Starburst514]

To be fair characters and real life people are different. A mean character can be entertaining, or funny or we watch them have character growth and that's great to watch. The problem comes when people have a hard time differentiating between fiction and real life. Joking about taking a characters personality for your own is one thing but then you have people, who actually do it and that's the real issue

[@selenahadid3658]

@@Jessica.Shawnte If a mean character is your fave it starts influencing you and you copy their behaviors. For example I have a friend that loves Maddy, first she said that she is only fictional and she just finds her character interesting, then she copied one of her lines and last started to behave like her!

[@Kerrifique]

I hate how the title is true. Like we could be minding our own business, having fun with out friends and some waste youth comes outta no where and ruin your day. Like take that toxic energy and utilize it doing something positive. Fandom is way too wild!!

[@420blazeit69]

I literally got told to kms because I use she/it/they pronouns from a 19 year old dude

[@harriyanna]

people say things online that they know will get them knocked out irl. i am so sorry this happened to you.

[@420blazeit69]

@@harriyanna aww ty this made my day ❤️❤️

[@orangeblossom9168]

Your pronouns are valid! Don’t let any idiot tell you otherwise

[@Lilothestitch]

I’m so sorry this happened to you.

[@TotoroK9]

My grandmother was always mean to me when I was little just to get everyone else in the room to laugh when I get upset. Being mean to people is entertaining to watch, I guess. I wish it could just be kept to fiction.

[@myname3025]

It makes me SICK that it's humanly POSSIBLE to be so IMPOLITE and VILE to people who barely even freaking KNOW!!!!!😤🤯😞 Also, another BANEGER by Harriyanna keep up the good work Harri!

[@harriyanna]

thanks!

[@KaliyahKayoni]

Bottom line, most people feel powerless in life🤷🏾‍♀️. They don’t like where they’re at financially, physically, mentally, spiritually & can’t stand to see other people hold qualities that they lack. Often having genuine confidence & comfort in yourself is seen as cocky or arrogant because people can’t fathom the peace KINDNESS/MINDFULNESS brings to yourself & others (AND YES THAT MEANS YOUR NOT RUDE TO OTHER PEOPLE FOR NO REASON). When you start to value yourself you also value others regardless of their opinion; so this whole “fake Alpha” personality that people do IRRITATES me from my feet to my dead ends🥴. It shows lack of maturity & a lack of emotional intelligence, IDGAF 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@sofiahutchings5247]

This is a good point. One thing that always bothered me is that someone in a competition will be 1st place and people will find something bad to say, or compare them to an older icon. If they get a perfect score then they'll make something up and lie. It's like people are obligated to stay "humble" and can't talk about their talents or else someone will try and tell them they're not or say they're bragging/arrogant. It's just as normalized to downplay yourself to make others feel comfortable. It takes a lot of emotional maturity to admit someone is better.

[@lunaaengelis]

I was visiting my childhood, and I noticed how many "mean girl"/"bully" characters there were. I'm sure the 2004 movie Mean Girls popularized the behavior as "cute", "sassy", "hot", etc. The amount of excuses made to justify it are abundant. But, there can be exceptions to those excuses made: abuse and neglect. Meanness can manifest as a way to take back their power, their respect, and whatever else was lost from them. Perhaps, they never knew how to properly express their emotions due to the way their early life/childhood was structured - or the lack of structure that took place. Otherwise, I see no reason why meanness would possibly be excused in media. That's not to say abuse and neglect both give the person the pass/full right to be absolutely mean to everyone all the time. There are unspoken rules that need to be practiced such as the Golden Rule: treat others as one would like to be treated. Meanness is still meanness no matter how it manifested. Mini Game: Name one "mean girl"/"bully" character that you remember from your childhood! You can also explain the reason why they were considered mean to you as well.

[@orangeblossom9168]

Jade from victorious

[@lunaaengelis]

Heather from Total Drama Island

[@opheliasouv]

cleo de nile

[@scarletsage6267]

The weird part is that one of Mean Girl’s lessons is anyone can be mean and that we should break the cycle as shown in the end of the movie but people do the exact opposite

[@lunaaengelis]

@@scarletsage6267 Yes! This! 👆

[@Yuunarichu]

Is it me or is that being mean is considered a girl boss moment rather than realizing it's rude behavior? Lots of times I've seen supposed "burns" that take it so far to the point I'm horrified it's called a "girl boss moment".

[@lelec6923]

i think its also the reason why the mean girl character was created in the first place, as a feminist response to the soft and kind female character that is rooted in stereotypes. except it could have been literally anything else instead of incouraging rude and disrespectful behaviours

[@cookiecat7759]

I’m interested on why agretsuko is on the thumbnail, I’m excited to watch this soon

[@-ShadowSimp-]

Same

[@asterdisaster3064]

Probably because of Mr.ton

[@sorryimsunny]

same here, i love aggretsuko and was curious

[@JusticeForChuuu]

such a good show 🤞

[@nakymsingh2428]

Harryianna your so fire

[@tyralee2286]

One thing I don’t think people understand about being mean, is that it can take years off your life. Carrying hate in your heart can cause health issues and it ages you faster

[@TearsOfMania]

everytime i call out a relative for their rudeness. they judge me for "caring too much". 😬

[@kevonhankerson2124]

I would never understand why people like to be mean and hateful for no reason like its not that hard to be a decent person 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@TealTreeKangaroo]

Every time I’m in a different fandom, usually one of, if not THE most popular character is the asshole character who just. Gets to be cruel to everyone around them “because that’s just how they are” or “because that’s how they show affection.” It makes me so uncomfortable. People can like whatever characters they want, but god the whole “some people just can’t help it” is awful, especially when it excuses outright abusive behavior, ESPECIALLY when these dynamics appear in real life.

[@nyanyasucks7154]

Oh hi Bakugou....

[@realhotgirlfilmz]

@@BratzRockAngels true

[@Flax7481]

Yeah I get r word threats from random guys all the time

[@morganqorishchi8181]

I got one from a woman twice my age, but she thinks it "doesn't count" even though it was four paragraphs long and detailed because "I'm a woman, it's not really r word if a woman does it". I fear for the safety of everyone around her IRL.

[@otakutoongamer5616]

@@morganqorishchi8181 That woman has a Sienna Mae mentality 🤢

[@ascotcult]

no cause i lost a internet friend of 5 years cause i pointed out the major flaws of their favorite fictional character and ever since they were extremely rude towards me. they came up with excuses for the said character’s shitty and uncalled actions by saying “oH sHe wAs aN oRpHaN”

[@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254]

Me but when I pointed out how YT Bridget Jones series was and that Mark Darcy wasn't that great.

[@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254]

@ǞЯƮΦЯiǞ РęПDЯǞgΦП So you think there is something sus about most of Colin Firth's fans?

[@euqinecart33]

I'm sorry but anyone who thinks you're ugly are either blind or a liar. There's no other option.

[@apersonwhoexists888]

Omg the title alone is real as hell

[@doodlemunchkin2222]

Gotta love how nowadays being mean is toted as a positive or quirky personality trait, hidden under the guises of being “confident”, “bada*s”, “blunt”, or “sassy” and hold so much pride in never changing and insist that they don’t care if it rubs someone the wrong way or hurts others, because they’re being “authentic to themselves.” But then are probably the same people who are woe-as-me crying in their rooms at night questioning if anyone truly likes them, or why they can never get friends to stick around for long and struggle to develop valuable healthy relationships. I mean…actions lead to consequences lol. And no matter what they say now or in public, they WILL care about how others treat them in return for it sooner or later. If you refuse to change and opt to just slap a positive title over your negative attributes and hope to get away with whatever u want, you will never grow as a person. And it doesn’t matter who you are-EVERYONE has room for growing and should strive to become better versions of themselves. Because no one is perfect just as they are now, but change is possible if you aren’t afraid to acknowledge your downfalls and negatives. Otherwise others are gonna leave u behind as they continue to grow and learn.

[@sarapistilli180]

I saw one blogger complain about how certain KZbinrs weren't talking enough about the war on Ukraine, then admitted in the same post, that if they did talk about it or try to do a charity livestream, they would see it as "clout chasing". Like what do they even want them to do? It's like no matter what the KZbinrs, say or do, they just want to twist and warp everything into "proof" that those KZbinrs are evil, attention seekers. (And not to mention how tasteless it is to use Ukraine as an excuse to bash content creators. WTH.)

[@Deoxys911]

I'm always shocked by just how mean even young children often can be. I don't know if it's their parents or the culture, but it seems like these nasty habits often start young, and preventing them at that stage would surely be a great place to start in making the world a nicer place.

[@Weoweowee]

You're so right about this. I have a very recent example of people being so rude to people for no reason. It's a creator named Jellybean. Her content isn't my cup of tea as it tends to not be very funny, however people took that to a whole new level. People are makings videos upon videos on why they hate her, made her apologize for a non-offensive joke, tried to frame her for saying slurs, even harrassing her artist to the point where her artist had to filter her name out of her comment sections, and now they doxxed her and are making fun of her looks. Mind you, all of this is not because she is a horrible person, but because she makes cringe content. You will never see this type of energy for actually bad people. It's so sad.

[@user-vo9ge9zh6j]

i think people (who run mostly shows about teens) nowdays confuses being a bad b or just a confident powerful person with just straight up being mean, and people eat this stuff up, the amount of characters that sometimes are even just straight up racist but people excuse cuz theyre "cold", and then theres those tiktok edits with scenes of them being mean to other random characters ,wtf honestly

[@Rosemont104]

If only they taught "the Net-iquette" here, like they taught kids to do in South Korea.

[@Lilothestitch]

A lot of fandoms are so toxic. I get verbally attacked for some of my opinions in some of the video game communities especially in Life is Strange and The Walking Dead.

[@breadcrust4006]

Eyyy Life Is Strange is so good! I haven’t been in the fandom is so long I didn’t know there were any issues :(

[@Bliss226]

@@breadcrust4006 Usually got to be careful when someone says "I get verbally attacked for some of my opinions", especially when they don't specify what those opinions are. I have never heard of those communities having a problem. Sad if it is happening, but something makes me wiry about their comment.

[@breadcrust4006]

@@Bliss226 very true

[@lauvayed]

i got bombarded once on a bnha gacha video once for saying r49e is illegal. yeah that community doesn’t deserve rights /j

[@apinchofdisappointment]

Literally if you have an unpopular opinion twd fans get to upset and vindictive over it especially on reddit

[@hobari7568]

Your thoughts on maddy were completely valid!! I didnt like her character either until the 2nd season. being mean and rude is what writers think makes a female character strong and a girl boss; its so annoying lmao

[@selenahadid3658]

SO TRUE BESTIE, do you know tvd?

[@hobari7568]

@@selenahadid3658 yeah ive seen it

[@selenahadid3658]

@@hobari7568 There are so many nice characters for example Lexi, Hayley, Caroline, Bex and Bonnie. They are very caring and supportive yet badass, strong and know their responsibilities.

[@muunprince1992]

I feel like almost everybody just want to fit in to this some kind of "character" that they think its "cute" or "aesthetic" just like this mean girl trope and in the end they just look cartoonish and weird because a lot of characters in movies, tv shows, and other forms of media are just a caricature of real people and people really into glamorizing to this type of stuffs because they enjoy living their life like in fictional medias because the real world suck.

[@TheCoolCryptid]

Fandom is wild man. Ive actually never interacted in fan spaces, but using fandom spaces makes me feel pretty awful

[@xRaineDropsx]

You should count yourself lucky, some people can be downright cruel all in the name of a character, ship, or any other insignificant thing.

[@niftythegoblin]

I feel this. I think I’m kinda used to it, unfortunately, bc I’ve been active in a lot of fandoms since I was about 11 but they can be truly awful. I try to stay in the nicer spots of them, but for some fandoms, that negativity is inevitable. I just stay out of it even then but it can get so mentally draining to be around it.

[@devontamosley4487]

When I saw my favorite Total Drama character, Duncan, on the thumbnail, I have a feeling it about something very serious. We should always treat people with respect; but if someone is being disrespectful, that respect will be revoked. If you're not gonna respect me, then I'm not gonna respect you.

[@Zephur0s]

I can't find time in my day to be rude and nasty to try and convince people that I'm "that bitch". Also, from my High school experience, people in my friend group or in my classes would think of me being nice as fake and not being able to stand up for myself like, I don't need to be loud and bitchy just to make a point. Like bye 👋 🚪👈

[@morganqorishchi8181]

A lot of people see not getting into arguments as "you're not standing up for yourself" as if you don't have the right to not engage in meaningless arguments with other people. They really think the two modes of existence are badasses winning arguments or total wimps and that fuels toxicity and negativity. Walking away, smiling or just being polite and not getting into a debate with someone are all perfectly fine options and I wish people would stop going "you need to stand up for yourself". No I don't. I don't need to do anything, I can do whatever I want.

[@Zephur0s]

@@morganqorishchi8181 periodt. People want to win arguments but fail to see the stupidity in it sometimes. There's better things to spend your time on. I mean, if someone came after my looks, I can't be bothered but if someone came after my family, then they're done 👊👊

[@sheltertwo7957]

The way fans defend fictional characters as if they’re actual people blows me away. It’s not like you attacked Alexa Demie lol she’d probably agree with a lot of your season 1 takes.

[@selenahadid3658]

Alexa Demie compared herself to Monet from gg reboot and said that she can totally relate to her bad bitchiness, so she isnt sweet or nice as people think

[@ImaniVersus]

This needs to be a PSA. I barely have a following and folks be so mean to me cause of my opinion on MUSIC. Which is one of the most opinionated genres on this planet.

[@Lilothestitch]

Do these things fall into the categories of “It’s normalized to be rude to strangers?” 1. People making fun of Britney Spears and her family abusing her. 2. People making fun of Amanda Todd especially after she committed suicide because if bullying. 3. People making fun of Rehtaeh Parsons after she committed suicide because of bullying after she was sexually assaulted by 4 boys at a party.

[@gloria1060]

I love Aggretsuko in middle school, but I didn't know that they had a season 3. I also like the color at the end of your braid.

[@imjustsaying281]

There's a Season 4, too!

[@koogiethekoogster8922]

Ok video isn’t even out yet and I agree 100% I went to a little kids trampoline park the other day with my little brother and it was the first time I had gone out in a while and I was so shocked at how rude everyone was and how shocked people were when I was just respectful and I remember I came back home and told my mom the same sentence as the title of this video

[@morganqorishchi8181]

I've been getting daily suicide bait from a fanfic author repeatedly for over a week now. I pointed out that the only Central Asian character in their multi-story, 150+ chapters fanfic is a serial rapist human trafficker who thinks women aren't people, and at first they pretended they were upset about bad representation. They said they'd let me guest write a chapter with a Central Asian character who isn't evil incarnate. Then I took too long to reply to an email and one of them lost. their. mind. at me. I apologized over a dozen times, but they insist I never said I'm sorry, and has been sending me suicide bait on anon on AO3 constantly ever since, usually always including slurs about Jewish people and Arabs (Central Asians aren't Arab but racists don't understand the difference). Now they've deleted all my comments and are moderating comments on their fics so no one can ever voice any thought other than praise ever again. Moral of the story: give up. Do not talk to people in fandom. No matter how bad the representation you're given is, do not say it's bad, do not trust white people when they say they want to "do better" or "do good representation", keep your head down and avoid anyone who's too invested in fandom. White people in fandom will look at you apologizing 14 times and say you never apologized at all and deserve to die and should kill yourself you stupid Arab k*ke, because that's the level of entitlement they have when talking to POC. The word fan originated as a shortening of the word 'fanatic', and some people really embody that.

[@wowow7395]

I'm sorry to hear that happened to you. I experienced something similar but not as extreme as you. I became more cautious of fans too but once i found the right crowd I found some friends. please don't take this the wrong way or something but I think generalizing a whole race will only make it worse for you in the long run. but yeah I try to not give attention to the crazy people because there are some who will never get things or try to understand them. that's just the internet ig. i hope it doesn't affect you too much, you got this

[@psychedelic.dreamer]

It's not just white people, unfortunately, at least in my experience.

[@ageism6256]

sui bait? as in them threatening to do it to themselves or ?

[@mariebunn45]

@@ageism6256 sui bait is usually telling someone to kill themselves or "baiting" them to take their own life. death threats means they are threatening to do it themselves. hope this helped.

[@supporter6014]

The fact that I was muted in a discord server because I responded to someone being rude/nasty to me over not agreeing with me on something in the fandom and I was told that the reason they muted me was “because I was responding/initiating conflict”. The discord mods were basically telling me I was overreacting, which is surprisingly common for an average mod behavior??? People do better.

[@lelec6923]

discord is shit & also dangerous

[@Maw0]

Oh no not Duncan! His character was a mess throughout the Total Drama seasons.

[@topquality3896]

Life is too sort to be ride people need to be more nice.

[@sarar7363]

No cause you’re so right, I still don’t like Maddy from euphoria still because of her ableism but if she has more development in season 3 she’d be a rlly good character. I feel like a lot of people ignore this part of her character as well.

[@orangeblossom9168]

That’s one thing I don’t like about her character. I don’t see what the point of making her say that was.

[@sarar7363]

@@orangeblossom9168 EXACTLY

[@anasaavedra5600]

@@awsomedude23456 she’s been throwing around the R word so recklessly

[@andiflores4638]

I haven’t even watched this show yet and ig I already have a love-hate relationship with this Maddy character which isn’t surprising for me bc I have love-hate relationships with lots of mean characters.

[@sarar7363]

@@awsomedude23456 the word itself and the way she uses it to insinuate stupidity is ableist. It doesn’t matter who it’s directed to

[@MsUnamusedNerd]

A lot of people tend to emulate popular jerk characters like Rick Sanchez from Rick and Morty because they think that somehow makes them likable? Or some people think being a C U Next Tuesday is cute and quirky/having a personality. The unhinged fan in Aggretsuko is a PRIME example of fan entitlement. Feeling complete unnecessary ownership over your favorite source of entertainment that one is overly obsessed with. The fact that he tried to kill Retsuko at the end… I also 100% agree with you when it comes to people that don’t know how to use context clues and put two and two together. I have had so many people on the Clock app try to start being rude with me because they don’t know how to rub their only two brain cells together to use their contacts clues. I guess me using similes/analogies and creative language is too scholarly for them to understand. I don’t understand why it’s such a “trend“ for people not to use their brains and they go off initial reaction. Example I can give is when some dude reply to a comment of mine saying “Batman should kill his rogues gallery instead of keeping them around so he can beat up the less fortunate for his own pleasure“ I have course said that’s not true, because it’s not, when he asked me why he doesn’t kill them I gave him a video answer. And I made sure to use “saying that Batman goes by his no killing role because he enjoys being out the less fortunate is just as stupid as saying Bayonetta where is the clothes that she does end game because she’s a slut” Those are both ignorant takes onto fantastic characters when you remove the new wants that builds up that character. He just went on a complete rant spamming leaving 13 comments “debunking” me even though he said absolutely nothing to defend his argument that Batman should kill. In my respectful and informative response to his question I even pointed out one of the many Batman‘s where Bruce Wayne does break is no killing rule. There are multitudes of Batman that do kill, but the one I use specifically was from a Jason Todd story. The dude responded, unintentionally agreeing with me that Batman shouldn’t kill, by saying “well Bruce Wayne never should have become Batman if him killing one person is gonna make him unhinged and go around killing people“……He even had the nerve to finish it with “agree on disagreeing because clearly you will never admit that you are wrong. Good day miss” WTF? I think he was just really triggered and pissed off that a WOMAN knew more about Batman than he did. I try to have a respectful/civil discussion with him but he was quick to try to “shut me up and put me in my place“ 😂😂😂😂 The extra irony on his bio he says “I try my best to be a nice guy“ yeah the Reddit kind, only nice to a woman until she disagrees with him 🤣 For real though, he just kept posting comment after comment after comment after comment leaving me that essay and finished it with a comment that clearly says “I am not interested in talking to you anymore“….like damn you asked me a question and I answered it but he went off the rocker.

[@Twat_Dirt]

One thing I noticed about boys who idolize Rick is that they're the edgy ones who say a lot of racist and sexist shit and excuse it by calling it “dark humor”

[@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254]

I recommend this video by Renegade Cut on Rick and Morty and its problematic issues. Especially discussing the "facts don't care about your feelings" crowd

[@sophiebear2248]

I remember finding a website when I was younger where people were talking about the girl judge from master chef and being mean about the way she ate and I was confused as to what she did wrong

[@RainbowJemHxC]

Wow this is super thought provoking, because those who send hate and rudeness I wonder of that question cross their mind; "Whats your legacy?" And I wonder if they are happy.

[@chui1633]

The part about agretsuko honestly reminds me of perfect blue Edit: just finished the video so no wonder it reminded me of perfect blue, since that's what her paper was about

[@nova4476]

definitely feeling this video. i got recommended a miraculous ladybug video that was pointing out the bad animation and lighting in an episode and i said this is why i don’t keep up with the show. the horrible storyline and character development are enough to keep me away. the animation is the icing on top. i had someone say ‘’idk how old you are but this show teaches good lessons and blah blah you need to let it go.’’. wow, didn’t know you needed an age to have an opinion. people really are too comfortable being rude online.

[@idkwhathomestuckisijustlik3439]

Imma be honest, I'd be a huge hypocrite if I shit talked people who like rude characters, I mean Daria is literally one of my favorite cartoons. But yeah, being mean to strangers is way too normalized, people walk around acting like people they don't know aren't people. This is especially damaging to people in the service industry who are treated like this everyday.

[@shadyabrown-hall5955]

You are right Harryanna. Being mean is the new thing now and it's sad. It's better to be nice and considerate of other's. Whether famous or not.

[@amethystimagination3332]

People online love to blur the line between criticism and harassment, there is a difference. You should be open to criticism, you don’t have to apply it all the time just be open to it. But calling people names and telling them to quit isn’t a criticism, it’s bullying and then hiding behind the guise of criticism.

[@heatherlee2967]

The PBS reference at the beginning was so good though😂 I'm so glad you can continue on YT, I love the work you're doing and I hope you can continue for a long time!

[@conejitoskawaii3960]

I work in a school buffet (full of Teens obiously) and BELIEVE ME ...the norm is that every child is trying to give me quirky mean kid edgy kid euphoria vibes 😩😫 idkw now i know... Is pretty tragic only 3 of them say hello or thank u

[@Stari_cat]

Omg this is so true! I have so many experiences of random strangers being unnecessarily rude to me for no reason- I remember I was online playing this game and I tried to say hi to the other people on there but literally the moment I said “hi” one of them immediately told me to shut up. This happened twice and till this day I have no clue as to why

[@Stari_cat]

@@awsomedude23456 that’s true but even then those kids are around my same age and I’m 17/ stuff like this shouldnt be as normalized as it is. Ik it’s just a part of online games but I wish it was different you know?

[@Stari_cat]

@@awsomedude23456 you do have a point there

[@sarahosborne7698]

This is really random, but I've been watching you for a while and I've gotten pretty accustomed to your intro. Typically, I think of your "first mate" comment as just a funny opener to help introduce yourself, but it just clicked that it functions as a really clever way to reaffirm boundaries with your audience and I want to commend you for that. As you talk about here, it takes a lot of courage to deal with people who have expectations of you just by virtue of you existing online. You've carved a platform for yourself and you deserve full control over it.

[@Little_Lepus]

Man. I know I'm not entitled to anybodies kindness, nor does a stranger owe me anything for being kind. That being said. Gosh it sure would be nice if we cared more about that silent agreement to be polite to strangers.

[@rencogu2877]

i can't agree more on the celebrity & public figure part. its like, for everyone who has a "friendship"-type parasocial relationship with celeb, there is someone with a negative parasocial relationship with a celeb.

[@L-guy]

i remember one time i drew a character slightly fatter than usual ,cause,idk, i wanted to draw a character w/ my body type and i liked this character, and this dude completely blew up on me, sending me death threats for 3 days straight, it was so dumb. blamed it on his "delusions" like i literally have schizophrenia you dont see me doing that shit . i would just ignore him and eventually he stopped but . people are weird .really good video

[@izzyc127]

Louella Parsons and Hedda Hopper walked so Howard Stern and Perez Hilton could run and be hated by everyone

[@abrasivecloud]

Tribalism brings out the worst in people

[@dylanpeach2912]

harriyanna you have been uploading amazing videos one after another after another!

[@harriyanna]

thank you so much dylan!

[@selenahadid3658]

@@harriyanna I love your opinions, keep going!

[@ethanrhode5281]

Hi Harriyanna. Glad to see you are back and looking forward to the great content to come. I know its off topic but saw you cameo in Legacies 4x11. Great stuff !

[@cherryrhapsody5414]

THIS. People always call out Rachel from Glee (as they should) for being a diva and and making some off-hand racist stuff but praise the ground Quinn and Santana walk on. Like Santana literally was rude for no reason to most people and even said some anti-Semitic shit to Rachel. When people bring it up, they say that both those characters developed as people but Santana was still pretty rude until the last season. Rachel was trash and she was still kind of a diva by the end. People just praise Santana for the stuff they hate Rachel for. Now I love Santana's coming out arc as a queer woman but I can admit she's not a nice person. Strive to be a Tina or Lexi (i know they're not perfect either) over a Maddie or Santana

[@khill3065]

Thank you!!!! That is a HUGE double standard in the Glee fandom. It seems like people will never call out Santana and I'm sick of it 😒

[@TheCoolCryptid]

Honestly I don't see why people give a shit so much. Don't agree with all my friends takes on shit we like. I don't agree with some of my favorite youtubers takes about stuff I like. Just because you disagree doesn't mean you have to get shitty.

[@lewa3910]

That aggretsuko clip is so creepy cuz its real. Its just like Perfect Blue but with Hello kitty characters

[@wolfiecutie4513]

You've went through so much and thank you love your content^^

[@infernalphantom8701]

Yessss all of your takes in this video were on point. A lot of my memories from when I was a young kid were hearing my aunties talking about the latest TMZ drama or watching Wendy Williams on daytime TV. I was always confused like, are people out here really fighting over things like this? I could never put into words what it all meant, so I'm really glad you laid out this issue and walked us through it. Also, just asking because I'm interested in hearing your input on it, but could you cover Euphoria Season 2 and what went right and/or where the writing fell off? (This part is just my thoughts on Euphoria S2) Personally I love Maddy's character growth (though she still needs to address the ableism issue) but I think Sam Levinson got too petty in the writer's room and he kinda wrecked Jules's and Kat's stories. I still love those characters, but this is like one of those moments where we just choose to ignore certain aspects of the story because the writers did the characters dirty. Definitely I think Season 1 and the special episodes had much more care put into them, but I do like certain things from Season 2 (Lexi's play was so chaotic and shady, very iconic)

[@nittygritty7034]

Which Tiffanyferg video?

[@LacedWithOreos]

Ooh it's in the description! It's the 'why do popular youtubers stop uploading' one

[@nittygritty7034]

@@LacedWithOreos Thank you! I didn't see it!!

[@michelen7880]

This is actually a really timely video too with the whole cardi b lawsuit against a gossip KZbinr. Great analysis as always!

[@heatherlee2967]

banger of a video as always. Best of luck with the channel!

[@Shay45]

I kind of feels like this depends on where you are from. Where I live in the south people are SUPER nice in person. We smile, wave, say hello, and have fun small talk to strangers all the time. It is just normal. In other places in the US people are not like that. Those people on the street come off as cold & rude. On the internet though people are generally rude.

[@cerys113]

cant wait for this im setting an alarm

[@BraffWaffle]

Plus the internet is full of “Behind The Scene Gangster”. They will go on and on with the bs to act tough but will be quiet if yall ever meet up. They will go mute and log off if you buck back 🙄

[@hadbetterdays8118]

My problem with season 4 of aggretsuko was how Ton literally got punished for what he was constantly doing with Retseko and that was his misogynistic ways but when he got punished for it it was oh no poor Ton I mean he needed to be punished for it. I mean Humiro was actually not that bad in my oppion

[@harriyanna]

season 4 is so trash it's taking everything out of me to finish it. season 3 was so strong and then we get a ton redemption THAT NO ONE ASKED FOR.

[@hadbetterdays8118]

@@awsomedude23456 I know what you're saying but in order to have the show rush and have an ultimate bad guy they made it into him reason why because he knew some people had to go. It was just bad writing in my opinion like they just wanted someone evil in a short time span all the while Hiada made the dumbest excuse as to why he did it

[@lewa3910]

Omg i knew you'd bring up Perfect blue. Such a creepy but relevant anime film. Ive only watched it once even after buying it on bluray cuz... that scene. Millenium Actress is also similar in topic about an older actress (also by the same director, Satoshi Kon) but is so beautiful & melancholic in comparison.

[@Adrieanana]

Your glasses are iconic 🔥🔥🔥

[@harriyanna]

thank you!!

[@Makenashmuzack]

im not through the video yet but u talking abt aggretsuko reminded me of the movie perfect blue directed(?) by satoshi kon, it might be up your alley

[@Makenashmuzack]

LMAO yeah ok you've seen it. bet the paper is great

[@justajournalist]

ILY QUEEN I’m so READYYYYYY

[@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254]

I am speaking of "Mad Men" where Joan Holloway is known for her witty comments, her sharp tongue and intellect, curvaceous figure, her sexy but office-appropriate style, red hair and beauty. But Joan starts the series being bitchy and while she undergoes character development (as in she was raised to be a ornamental woman and doesn't understand women who choose not to merely go by on their sexuality, makes more sense when we meet her mom in Season 5) but what I couldn't stand is her stans who seem to hype up her comments, even when she is straight up just bullying girls she doesn't consider as beautiful or what not as she is. Like, there are some stans of her's who don't like this sincere speech she made in one of the final episodes about not wanting to settle for something that looks good on paper but they love it when she is being bitchy to Peggy or Lois (who did nothing to her) or to Sheila in Season 2 (actually racist not just bitchy, makes sense in context). I am glad you are talking about Louella and Hedda. I recommend Feud: Bette vs. Joan (though it shows more of Hedda). "Welcome to the house that fear built" Hedda Hopper (Judy Davis). For more focus on Louella, I recomment Esther Williams's autobiography "The Million Dollar Mermaid" and movie star June Allyson said Hedda negged her about wearing high-necked dresses, so she showed up to party in a strapless dress and Hedda made slick comments about June not having boobs or something. Also I recommend "15 Minutes of Shame", a documentary on HBO Max. I stan (I wanna be her boo) Monica Lewinsky and I am glad she used her experience with this negativity to shine a light on people who had their lives ruined by online strangers. Also Jay Leno and David Letterman are the Hedda and Louella in her story. Also before anyone comes for me in the comments: yes adultery is wrong but does it have to be life-punishing wrong? Receiving abuse from people? Especially slut-shaming and body-shaming. I love Monica that she owns up to her faults especially regarding her affair with Bill Clinton but still deserved to be treated decently (for more, I recommend ModernGurlz vid on Entertainment Media mistreating Young Women, the John Oliver segment on Public Shaming, and look up the Tom Green episode "The Monica Show" which thrived on positivity).

[@seacrest73]

I have never understood the love of mean/rude characters/ppl. Eg Simon Cowell, Gordon Ramsey, etc. Idk if you know the show The Vampire Diaries, but there was this dichotomy between doppelgangers Elena who was sweet and good and Katherine who was evil and bitchy. Fans used to shit on Elena and gush over Katherine and it used to piss me off. She was literally a villain who murdered good characters. Just because she had some funny snarky one-liners doesn't mean you should gush over her. Ppl say, it's just a show. I don't think so. It makes me concerned for how that stuff transfers into the real world. Are you gonna side with bad ppl just because they are cooler? At least in House MD, everyone recognized Hugh Laurie's character as the asshole that he is.

[@littlemisstfc]

14:26 YES, THANK YOU! 🙏🏽

[@charlieedwards4331]

I am also a ‘90s/early 2000s type of anime person

[@Luna-pt3vh]

Yeah, on Tumblr, you can be reading posts and in the comments, you see people be like "kys" and stuff like that. In posts too, like I was reading a post about pet names, and the OP wrote something people that think pet names are silly, kys, and it's worrying how on some parts of social media, being so rude is normalized

[@cherrycola542]

Lmfao. IM NOT NORMAL I DON'T WAAAANNNTTTTTT TO BE NORMAL YOU SEE THIS HAT??? it's not normal

[@snowwhite5405]

Those glasses are SUPER flattering on you.

[@KIIROCORE]

oh god the moment you mentioned how it’s easy to get popular on youtube by being rude to people immediately reminded me of the jellybean discourse from a few months ago… blegh ☹️

[@LoveAndSnapple]

“Chloe encouraging her younger half sister, Zoe….” 😲😲😲 *cries, weeps, and sobs over not having Disney+* 😭😭😭

[@AlexAblacck]

Harriyanna your videos are amazing, and Iook forward to watch them. You are one of my favorite KZbinrs and the people who are mean to you for no reason are a pool of trash.

[@heyitslilah447]

I have now become an orange 🍊 lol this comment is mostly for engagement but they way you said BIRD APP 🤣🤣 I’m dying

[@t.1669]

I dont get it when people says "Maddy is sweet". how????? when???? She is rude and evil, yall remember when she throws food to Nate's mom? I mean, his mom did nothing to her. And instead she always runs to Nate who always treat her badly. If she is really that confident she shouldnt "love" Nate more than she loves herself, and no one seems to remember that she framed a innocent guy for "rape", when she was happy with the idea of using him for making Nate jealous. And i dont disagree with the scenes of her beating people, but she almost killed a girl for saying something racist. Ok, punch that girl, but beating her with the door locker? Surely the girl now has brain damage ☠️ Also she threatened Cassie before she betrayed her on season 1. And treating Kat like shit just because she was being a true supportive friend telling her the TRUTH. Nate is trash. Oh, and when she made fun of BB's pregnancy. Like WTF.

[@MsFluffyninja7]

Honestly life is way too short to be a hater I'm too pretty to be mad all the time about stuff that doesn't really matter. I don't always agree with you Ms Hook but I appreciate your content.

[@gagamarrythenight11]

Really loved this video can’t wait to see what u put out next 💕✨💕

[@harriyanna]

thank you so much!!

[@lewa3910]

90's/2000's anime, i feel that