It's not "drama" It's a crime (TAEIL//NTH ROOM)

[@Sanatizer_1009]

For the people who are lazy to watch the whole video and want to know if the list is fake: the list is fake and the nth room is irrelevant to taeils case

[@LeoNunes-gy8ie]

Thanks. I can't pelieve people don't realise that

[@sp7bonniie]

people should genuinely NEVERR be so obsessed with an idol to the point they think the idol can do nothing wrong, we do NOT know these people❌❌🙅‍♀️

[@sunmiswashingmachine]

youre right but i still did not expect it i was blindsighted when the news came out and i immediately put something to cover over my nct127 album with taeil on its cover 💀

[@robinrachelle3122]

WHERE’S THE VICTIM?? TAEIL IS ACTUALLY THE VICTIM‼️ BECAUSE HE NEVER DID ANYTHING.. 😒 actually we don’t KNOW ANYTHING.. We don’t know if Taeil even did any of those things, or if anything criminal even happened. There was supposed to be an investigation but SM went and swept everything up under the rug and never updated the public at large about anything. What was the outcome of this “investigation “???? So here’s what.. I BELIEVE TAEIL UNHEALED, UNABLE TO PROMOTE & DANCE WAS COSTING SM TOO MUCH MONEY UNDER 3.0 CONTRACT. AN IDOL UNANLE TO DANCE INDEFINITELY IS COLLATERAL DAMAGE TO SM‼️The ONLY WAY for SM to break contract is a scandal ‘ACCUSATION’ involving SA. An accident is not TAEIL’S FAULT so what could SM possibly do to break contract❓CREATE A SCANDAL by mere ACCUSATION. THE YEAR IS ALMOST GONE & STILL NO VERDICT, THUS NO GUILT.

[@jvngstvrr]

no bc it was kind of upsetting when the whole rumour "200 male idols are on the list" started and people were worried abt their ults being on the list. i was flipping worried abt all the victims that were sa'd like?

[@Natasha.Louisee]

See THIS is my point!!!! Like your first thought was your bias? Weird

[@izzz222]

I don’t think it’s that weird for people to worry about that, of course their first concern should the victims of said crimes but no one wants to hear that the person that they’ve supported for years was involved in something so horrific, that being said tweeting about it is incredibly tone deaf and insensitive

[@1Uni7]

@@izzz222yes

[@FahimHoq]

@@Natasha.Louisee I think @izzz222 was talking about the fact that false accusation (as the list is fake) is just as disgusting. As these are real people lives that would be affected even if they are celebs.

[@izzz222]

@@FahimHoq yes exactly, sorry if I didn’t make my point clear enough

[@Pookasoul]

Well, at least we know the problem isn't just in the Kpop Idol industry.... the exact same is happening right here in the West with the Diddy case. Rumors about lists, people fighting on social media either defending or accusing celebrities, making it about themselves instead of the victims, plus the disgusting jokes people make about the situation, like there's something to laugh about.... this is a worldwide problem.

[@enjeanss]

the fact that its the same people who were saying that Taeil is a horrible person (which he most def is) and feeling bad for the victims are the same ones hoping that their bias isnt on that list.....

[@Jwnprk666]

some stans literally used this crime/scandal to glaze their biases...🤮💀

[@Natasha.Louisee]

It's so disgusting...... like it's not a flex that they "wouldn't" do that....

[@avinatine]

this comment makes me feel sane

[@Marleyzz]

People were undermining a real crime. Also Kpop fans always tend to make everything about their favourite it’s so annoying. The fandom is messed up.

[@zaiarayy]

off topic but I used to have the same pfp as u :)))

[@wizzardiishlex]

as a Stay i got so pressed when I saw fellow Stays being like "Woe is me! what if a Straykids member was in the NTH rooms!" why are we making this, first of all, COMPLETELY seperate topic about ourselves, and two, THIS ISN'T ABOUT USSS! OMFG!!!

[@ElectraTechna55]

I know this is bigger than Taeil but as a uni student dealing with law often I don't think people realise how overwhelming the evidence was for SM to drop a statement before rumors could spread. SM is the type of ent to back their artist and always handle shit with lawsuits/lawyers so the fact they dropped him so quick meant either the evidence was overwhelming and they couldn't make a soil argument and/or the worth of going through the legal process was greater than the money and value Taeil brought as an artist

[@velvetheels]

I wouldn’t say they dropped him “quickly” because he was kicked out of NCT back in August and then on October 16th his contract with SM was terminated because they had reasons to do so without having to pay him a penny(reason being that he is being prosecuted).

[@noahfan2719]

stan culture is devoid of empathy or genuine human emotion. i like some boy groups, but i care more about the fact that men are preying on their mothers, sisters, daughters, etc than reassurance that taemin wasn’t on the nth room list. why should a kpop star i don’t know, nor will i ever know, take priority over women and girls being victimized? it’s not about my comfort. like you said, there are real victims out there and it seems like for as much as some stans say they want to have nuanced conversations on these topics, they lack the emotional maturity to engage appropriately when these horrific situations occur. no one who wants to have a good faith conversation about misogyny in south korea and r4p3 culture would ever joke about the taeil case.

[@starsparklemonkey3390]

As a former Taeil fan (who still sensed something was off about him) unfanning was easy. What was annoying was seeing kpop twtr making the situation all about themselves. I was careful not to be delulu when I was stanning, but it was still hard to go back to kpop again. We REALLY don't know any of these people. Anyway Im glad I get back to this issue with your video. I can trust you to handle it with the seriousness it deserves.

[@smyleeskylee]

I hate that people just made jokes around this and rarely talked about in a serious way or made it about other idols i hope the victims get the justice they deserve

[@Analou13]

Exactly they will be so unserious about a CRIME but then sending cars and angry signs outside a company for an idol dating like worry about the victims for heavens sake people were hurt out here? 💀

[@Eli0223]

I could never obsess or love someone to the point where I think they could do no wrong. I’ve seen people close to me switch up so nvm someone I never met.

[@Analou13]

Fr like even if they did know them we STILL dont know their true colors 💀

[@aoyagitoyasno.1lover]

No, ‘cause thank you for making this video! It really is insensitive to say that, especially when I’ve heard similar things as a sa victim by my brother, then my mom infantalising him (especially with his autism), telling me he didn’t mean it, etc., not believing me the first time I told her; when I speak to her about it, she says, it was “too unbelievable” for her, that she never thought he could’ve done such a thing; your recall of how fans made videos on the situation (13:51) crying about how their biases would never definitely reminded me of that. I’d definitely be pissed off, imagining to hear that as the victim of Taeil. I also see people still disagreeing, when someone says it’s disrespectful to the victim, when Taeil biased fans have their pity party and make it about themselves.

[@esmerelda_555]

omg yes. netizens are making these situations which are *literal CRIMES* about them is SO annoying. not everything is about you, netizens.

[@i_332]

people were pissing me off with the whole list thing i felt like the only sane person on twt that day because i don’t even know how they arrived at that idea and the way everyone believed it?? like what

[@Chelaxim]

I just clicked on this video thinking it was my community (true crime) being weird again. Outside of a few Twice and BoA songs I know next to nothing about K pop but I'm glad you went full mama bear. Us in the true crime community also have to give people a tounge lashing from time to time.

[@DestalegnOtieno-er4gf]

And a thing I hated was when Doyoung was crying or something at the airport and everyone was like I feel so bad for him like what I get like feeling lost if you knew someone and thought they were a good person in Doyoung’s defense. But making videos after videos saying ohh he must be going through so much like no not as much as the victim so what the heck.

[@mushroommonarch5592]

There is a certain degree of, 'oh god what if I've been financially supporting someone who would do that to someone else', that is understandable. But thats not what those people are on about. Its always focused on the posters feelings, and not the harm that was caused, and that's what the problem is, right?

[@kayytu553]

Ever since Taeil was exposed i have been patientlu waiting for you to post about this 😞😞

[@yuelina.x]

Yes, call the disgusting people out, girl! Thanks for speaking up for sa victims! 💪 💕💕

[@Analou13]

Its crazy how K-pop stans will never take an actual crime seriously and joke but they will be all serious and angry about trivial matters 💀 like and yall are making JOKES and worried about your FAVES and using IT to GLAZE your faves WHAT ABT THE ACTUAL VICTIMS? 💀

[@dgls127]

I mean, there's nothing wrong with wanting you favs to not be horrible peiple, i sure hope my ults aren't like that on the slightest, but goddamn it, there's real victims here, that should not be your focus point

[@JBeechem]

It’s like when will people wake up and smell the coffee ☕️ because they need to see idols true colors and people’s true colors as well

[@dollyvivi_.ৎ]

Mother is back omg

[@Zarah1556]

you woke up and spoke absolute facts

[@CSeaSee]

The fact that people are making “JAEIL TIME” jokes is absolutely insane. This is like the time when people fantasize Jeffrey Dahmer and wish to be tied up. Like why are we lightly talking about actual criminals.

[@_.roland._]

first of all, those jokes are at taeil making fun of him which people can laugh at criminals. second of all, no one in their right mind fantasized taeil that’s disgusting. people who made jokes ABOUT HIM were just bullying him rightfully so no one is taking this lightly unless you are weird and a grape apologist… those jokes are made for him only and no one is taking this lightly and idk who’s fantasizing him but eww?

[@1Uni7]

Finding a lot of tik toks like that feels so disgusting

[@queenie1010]

Honestly I agree with you and that it's soo easy to get into parasocial relationships and to get this stereotypes from social media and (I know dont blame social media) especially on young people and very impressionable minds sometimes it is easy to get into ideas but YALL NEED TO REALISE THEY GET PAID TO DO ASK/DO THIS

[@gigi.i]

Ive been watching u for a while and srlsy ur so truthfull and wise idk its smth like u know what ur talking about and is allways telling ppl what is wrong like a mom should 😭🩷

[@xpralinchen]

parasocial relationships are so crazy sometimes... it's insnae that fans think they know an idol while they just know the person that the company wants them to know. no idol is like their persona in real life. people need to realize that.

[@lovelvtion]

its the way that annoying fans who never even knew about taeils existence before are making jokes about him for clout and views like please STOP the victim was a drunk foreign woman do you not have any empathy???

[@noahfan2719]

people are remarkably apathetic nowadays, especially in stan circles. i know people use humor to cope with traumatic events, but if you weren’t taeil’s victim, why are YOU (general sense) joking about what happened? why do stans make everything about themselves?

[@thatjennieismgirl.itgirl]

This is exactly why we shouldn't obsess over idols

[@laurahavndrup1538]

Omg a new vid😊😊😊😊 love you girl ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@insectsect]

I feel like “lists” have been a horrible trend in general. I presume because of P Diddy, the idea and trend of a “secret list of horrible people who should be ostracised” is getting extremely out of hand. On one hand, people want to use it to build up their faves as perfect people who can do no wrong, completely ignoring that a crime has been committed, and on the other hand there are people who WANT famous people to appear on alleged lists so they can feel justified in harassment. A REAL list of this nature would never be published so openly by people involved in this way as they would be opening themselves a massive amount of lawsuits. I feel that the whole thing is very indicative of how desensitised to this type of thing the internet has become, absolutely everything is now “internet drama.”

[@juliablue9115]

hey love your videos. you should do a video about starlight boys its a survival show and whats going on, in that show is just so inhuman and quite frankly glorifes abuse

[@Natasha.Louisee]

I'm writing that video now~ cried when I saw the clips about it. So nasty

[@juliablue9115]

@ i know right 😭

[@schlend4]

1:38 Wait wait, convicted? Did I miss the whole court case? How long did he get?

[@Natasha.Louisee]

I'm pretty sure it's 7 years. Most of my searches is just full of months old articles of him being "accused" so I'm struggling to find the official statement because I'm pretty sure he is still being charged

[@schlend4]

@Natasha.Louisee ok, I keep my eyes on the news then too. It would be good if one of these ppl finally gets a longer prison sentence. Let's hope he doesn't get out after half the time like those of similar cases though.

[@erinlee5936]

None of the videos will age well when the real truth about Taeil’s case comes out eventually. I’m looking forward to seeing you all on that day the truth will be revealed. 🤡🤡🤡

[@K_athhh]

Some k pop stans are just weird I’m so sorry to say but like they get so angry at the most trivial and stupid things like 2 conscenting adults dating and having to apologise especially the female for dating and then don’t bring that same heat for actual serious crimes.

[@richardc5100]

This woman too beautiful

[@Lucie_PinkBandit]

True 🥰💓 but stay focus bud, this topic is important

[@aoyagitoyasno.1lover]

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