IT'S NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR ELIAS LINDHOLM… (Vancouver Canucks, Boston Bruins News)

[@chrisstaples182]

You completely failed to take into account the tax situation in Boston vs Calgary and vancouver. He's making waaaaaay more money in pocket than if he signed the big deal in Calgary.

[@jeffsully4569]

Also, who would want to play in a rebuild (Calgary) ..lame duck career

[@WayneF-vanisl]

Great point .. The league has to look at the going forward . Florida has a HUGE advantage .

[@ht5587]

looks like a win win situation. Calgary doesn't get cap strap and got some good assets to kickstart the rebuild, and Lindholm gets to play on a competing team for only $750,000 per year less.

[@vmi4172]

Wow, 8x8.5 is absurd for Lind. Can't believe he turned that down. Then again,. who wants to play in Calgary??🤷‍♂

[@DanielHynes-t8x]

Really Cowtown, three teams that were WHA should of left it that way although Flames were Atlanta at one time, union hockey league now going to pot girls coaching now (Seattle) what's next?

[@AgentMack-y3l]

According to Dhaliwal, Nucks never offered Lindy 7x7. That's a misconception that was floating around. Nucks spoke with his agent about a possible extension & he said the starting point would be 7x7. Nucks didn't engage any further...

[@11froglegs]

Same thing all about $$$$$

[@eateddie1995]

People who think money/taxes are the only thing players think about need to give their head a shake. Personal preferences, family ties, looking for a fresh start, looking for a cup winner, wanting to have a bigger role and more ice time, wanting to play with certain players, leaving a toxic culture, all play a part. Humans are complex.

[@jacksonjacob7791]

It certainly is a huge advantage to the teams who have lower taxes.

[@dominickhawke9379]

@ScottStenlund-x9mguenztel never said that 😂😂😂😂

[@dominickhawke9379]

@ScottStenlund-x9mand you don’t really know much do you… guenztel wasn’t our first option debrusk was:) we have to pay Hughes demko and boeser in the next few years that’s why we’re not picking him up but your a goof anyways

[@dominickhawke9379]

@ScottStenlund-x9m you didn’t read the second part where the core that’s better then ur whole team is up for contracts

[@dominickhawke9379]

@ScottStenlund-x9m 😂😂😂😂watch the press conference there Scotty he said HIMSELF debrusk was the number 1 option period shut up stop crying in a comment section your a dork

[@NoobNoonan-kc9fn]

Comparing Lindholm to these guys is a bit silly. I think the chances that Lindholm ends up being Eriksson are slim to none. The Bruins pro scouting has done a pretty damn good job. They know the player, and they think he's going to excel with the team. Look at the guys they brought it. Coyle, Zacha, the other Lindholm. They have all put up their best numbers with the Bruins. Look at the players that Lindholm will play with.. and Marchand and Pastrnak on the PP. How much you wanna bet his numbers are closer to his career best than they're to what Eriksson put up as a Canuck. The Bruins are a consistent winning franchise. The Bruins got the player they wanted, and they didn't have to give up Lysell or a first round pick. Come on, you can point to this player and this one, but I don't see the comparison. Marchand and Pastrnak played great hockey with a right shot 2way center in Bergeron. Lindholm isn't Bergeron, but he's the next best thing when you can get him for nothing. Big win for the Bruins, and I wouldn't be surprised if they're in the hunt for another Presidents trophy late in the season.

[@Peezyxo]

Small point form next time nobody reading that

[@christophermaichin2475]

Lindholm wants to win a Cup. Play in the East with less travel & less taxes. I could go on

[@ScottMazurek-hu3en]

I don’t bear any ill will to Lindholm. Yeah it sucks that we gave up a lot of assets for a rental player but only teams that think they have a chance to win the cup do that and if we’d had a bit more luck with our team’s health this past post season, Canucks would have beaten the Oilers. I’m very happy with the Lindholm for Debrusk “swap” as I feel Debrusk has a better chance of extracting more from Petey in the post season than Lindholm did. And since we have both those guys for the next 7 years let’s hope so!

[@fadya3901]

I think he want to play for a classic team with great outlook. Stanley Cup winning capability. Vancouver is not there yet. Boston was close to a final with a pretty unimpressive team. It’s in the walls the winner mentality sips through the organization.

[@SomeOne-uy4kj]

Methinks, you missed some non-monetary dynamics. As beautiful as Vancouver is, he (and Zadorov) wanted to be on the Boston stage. In addition, they both have a perfect fit in terms of where and how they will fit into the lineup. Why are you still missing that?

[@vertigov5303]

He left some money on a table, but maybe he just wanted to be with a team not in rebuild mode.

[@Uncle_Troy]

Meanwhile, Toffoli literally did the opposite and got his bag from a bottom dweller.

[@DavidAllison-qs8wn]

Makes sense to me that Lindholm didn't want to be on a Calgary team going through a rebuild. For the Canucks, I think they were misguided to give up assets for a rental that only could have worked if Petey was converted to wing, or else having Lindholm as a too good for a 3rd line centre. That never made sense to me. Guentzel made sense but ... dang. Boston really needed to replace Bergeron so that makes sense, Big Z makes sense there. Will Lindholm thrive there? Who knows, it's impossible to replace Bergeron, so 'good enough' maybe works. Money isn't everything for players. Being #1 centre in Boston sounds better than #3 C in Van, or #1 C in Calgary during a 5 year rebuild.

[@macfurry3214]

Some players like to play in US market than in Canadian market, so I am not surprised if Lindholm unwilling to sign with the Canadian team even though salary is about the same (of course there is more if you count currency + tax rate as some of the audiences said in previous videos).

[@seantaylor2683]

All NHL players are paid in USD, even those playing for Canadian teams

[@benjaminaxselholm]

Yep always paid in USD in Canada or the US

[@ceecam4853]

Who would want to stay w that mess in Calgary if they had a way out? All 3 of their top line bailed.

[@tujungite4914]

Taxes makes it a win for Lindholm if I'm not mistaken. And Boston seems like a better city, location, than anything in Alberta. Boston is always in the mix for the cup. That could change, who knows. Boston has Zadorov now as well. They will be gushing over there about him. Rightly so. I'm stoked the Canucks added the players from Boston. Fills needs, and cap space never a bad thing.

[@ceehustle125]

god forbid he wants to play with pasta and win a cup.

[@darcypadgham7076]

It certainly would be rewarding for the Vancouver to win their first ever Stanley Cup this year. As much as I wanted Zadorov to stay, it would be so fitting for he and Lindholm to be watching the Canucks hoist the cup. Neither his nor Zadorov's contracts are going to age well. I give them three years before both are bought out.

[@KptKrunch9481]

Ah, yeah, ok lol

[@soullessrenegades1444]

I can see Zadorov being bought out in 3 years, but not Lindholm. Lindholm is good enough to thrive if given the right teammates, and he is a good face-off center. But Zadorov is pretty much a 3rd pairing player who is good to bang in the playoff. Most players player harder in playoffs but if he doesn't show up till the playoffs, that doesn't make him a 5.5 a year player.

[@darcypadgham7076]

@@soullessrenegades1444 You're probably correct as Lindholm will definitely be on the top line. He should have chemistry with Pasternak. I suppose we will just have to wait and see.

[@christhornycroft3686]

A lot of these long term deals will age badly. That's why I don't get upset, besides strapping the Canucks with a contract that prevents them from filling out the roster, that they didn't go out and sign a guy like Guentzel. The Canucks made very strategic moves. DeBrusk was one of the youngest UFA wingers and a guy I've liked since he was drafted. He seemed like a classic Boston Bruins type of player. I also really like Danton Heinen. He could be a steal. The guy is a perennial 16-18 goal scorer as a 3rd liner. The Canucks have options now in their lineup as well as toughness and scoring. On D, they're probably slightly worse, but Zadorov has never been a top 4 defenseman over 82 games and that contract could age terribly. I would have liked another 4-5 defensive defenseman, but there's a salary cap and given where they were at the end of the season, they've done really well. If Lekkerimaki shows significant improvement and makes a push for the main roster, that would be insane. As for Lindholm, that contract could be very ugly in the last 4-5 years. He's already declined significantly offensively in the last couple of seasons and he's being asked to play a top line role. Maybe it works for a couple of seasons, but if it doesn't, yikes.

[@jaschan2006]

The offer from Calgary was a very good one monetarily. The only reason that came to my mind is people don’t like living in Calgary.

[@joeygrossbeak4092]

Less travel I think is reason

[@dantrisevic]

He is about average at best. He is a solid player in the 6 million range at best for 5 years max. I am glad the Canucks didn't sign him.

[@johnl6277]

Opportunity to be a top line C on a good team > money. It's understandable that a person leaves money to play (or work) in a more desirable role and environment.

[@biffstrong1079]

Lindholm is going to be fine. He will be the best center in Boston and he will do fine there. Sour Grapes it sounds like. Yup Calgary was going nowhere.

[@biffstrong1079]

@ScottStenlund-x9m That's another read. He had 22 goals and 64 points a year ago and 42 goals and 82 points two years ago. He's a talented defensively responsible center so closer to Patrice Bergeron than many. He is an actual first line center which zacha is not. He will thrive with Pastrnak and be an upgrade.

[@biffstrong1079]

@ScottStenlund-x9m Could be. I like addressing a teams actual needs with free agents. Lot of teams go out and choose the shiniest player availblbe despite their needs. He was good in carolina and great in calgary. He was never an offensive whirl wind but he will do well with pastrnak, who wouldn't and the complete game package may not deteriorate as fast as if he was a one noteoffensive player.

[@biffstrong1079]

@ScottStenlund-x9m true.but hes an improvement for the bruins at center though, probably a big improvement. The bruins are an aging team that either needs a bit of a rebuild or should have drafted barzal, connor an chabot rather than zboril debrusk and synyshyn.

[@biffstrong1079]

@ScottStenlund-x9m Sure You could be right. We are going to see soon. He's an upgrade because the center situation in Boston was so bad. You are paying a premium cause he's a UFA. A team with Pavel Zacha and Charlie Coyle as their first two centers is going no where.

[@donniedoesdishes]

there is a interview with blake coleman about a month ago its very telling about treliving and the calgary organization

[@rduke325]

He wants to win. So why would he want to play in Calgary or Vancouver?

[@rfruss]

Wonder if his wife knows this or maybe she is the one who wanted out of Cow town?

[@brandonrobertson6938]

Just here to say I don't care about Lindholm or Zadorov. But, your content is great. Keep up the good work.

[@ethanjackson1824]

What

[@christopherbataluk8148]

You probably have to look at what he lost as a net. The sad reality is that Alberta's taxes which are the lowest in Canada are still as high as the highest tax US jurisdictions that likely narrows the gap. I also suspect he wasn't really in the mood to sit through at least four years of a rebuild in Calgary and went to the contender which offered him the most. He's rich either way.

[@generalimlerith8356]

Lindholm not taking the offer from Treliving was the greatest gift for flames fan because the return will be a lot more value than what Midholm can produce he seems to be declining year by year

[@original6hockey402]

Pussholm. Bruins already have one certainly don’t need another

[@SpeedandSplendor]

Hanafin as he was in Calgary wasn't worth that sort of money... if he was clicking with Huberdeau and giving him value .. then yes but not what he was showing.

[@vdac1068]

Worry about the Canucks, let the Bruins do their thing.

[@andrew4451]

I don't believe Ryan Malone played for the Oilers.

[@Cubaquois]

You should look at centermen with 50% wins that scored 40 goals in 2022 go for. Dylan Cozens is a 7million a year center. I mean, be serious

[@conservativeamber1216]

Good thing Rutherford didn't give him $7X7 Lindholm isn't the same player he was two years ago.. Too bad Petey didn't play like he plays in EA Sports NHL24 lol

[@omfg322]

If hes playing on the 1st line beside pasta, chances are he'll live up to the contract for at least a few years. However, watching him play in van and calgary, he looks like a player that is only as good as the players around him. I would still call it an overpay but boston needs centers so they didnt really have a choice.

[@mariavallecillo9220]

I would take less money to go play in boston too who wants to stick around a rebuilding calgary team when you’re 29 or a Vancouver team where you’re gonna be played further down the lienup…

[@patcchan]

Ryan Malone never played for the Oilers.

[@zoso4rune504]

I think time will show the Bruins lose the pseudo-trade of players. Debrusk is going to have a breakout and make sweeney look like the biggest idiot on the planet.

[@StreetFig]

Plain and simple, he wants to win a cup before he retires and he's not getting that chance in calgary. They are nowhere near ready right now and they still have to even draft a number of good players in the years to come and then hope that these players can become something further down the road. He will be retired by the time they come around, if they even get there at all. It's about the trophy, not the money

[@BaoNguyen-bh2rk]

This isn't anything new. I think he knew he screwed up rejecting CGY's offer even before he was traded to VCR

[@ethanjackson1824]

Classic bruins hater being mad😂

[@Bbbbbvggtttttfcdeeww]

Elias hated the Canucks and hated playing for Rick

[@original6hockey402]

Lindholm another soft Euro just what the Bruins don’t need.

[@AS-xq9ps]

Who wants to play in Calgary or wants to be a flame anyways 😂

[@ryanj1080]

Lindholm 70 points in Boston 🔐 lock

[@joeygrossbeak4092]

Zadina left millions on the table too; so what.

[@glenrichardson8266]

Seravalli is pronounced more like "Sarah Valley"

[@maxrae43]

I think that people need to get a life. just because he left money on the table in calgary and vancouver is irrelevant. he chose where he wanted to be at an offer he accepted. one hypothesis i have why he went east is a simple one. he is much closer by air to his own country with no connecting flights. calgary is going nowhere and missed the playoffs. vancouver was a lock for the playoffs. he was able to chase a cup and he took it in van. and business is business. people talk about vancouver management using him to achieve their goals as a benefit. and lindholm did the same with van from a players standpoint. it is what it is. let it go.

[@Sarah-vp4sl]

Yes also he was a third line center in Vancouver. In Boston he’s gonna be on a playoff team and playing on line 1.

[@joeygrossbeak4092]

Less travel.

[@joesutherland225]

Taxes?

[@pezzmania]

I'm getting a Loui Eriksson vibe from Lindholm. Best to stay away. Disappointed about losing Zadorov, but Bruins overpaid for a 20 point defenseman.

[@edited1325]

He’s not getting paid to score points

[@pezzmania]

​@@edited1325 If a defenseman isn't moving the puck 5 on 5, he's a liability. His plus/minus was zero on a team that had an overall plus/minus of +58.

[@theatheist546]

Not that hard to figure out

[@11froglegs]

Give me a Break All players are getting gringo $$$$

[@mp88885]

He will make it up in Tax savings.

[@theatheist546]

He didn't wanna play on a shitty flames team obviously...

[@fire_watch7735]

Lindhom’s contract is going to age very badly…

[@edited1325]

Not really. The cap is going up and as a 2C in the future it ain’t that bad considering krejci was getting paid 7 million in the 2010’s as the 2C

[@andrewkirkland7726]

so sad to see so many bruins hatters out there lol u guys gotta to admit nhl players wants to play for the bruins hehe so suck it

[@KptKrunch9481]

Oh - they hate the Oilers more than the Bruins trust me lol

[@eljerc5894]

No One wants to play in Canada... Stop meowing

[@ryanjames4740]

Linholm and debrusk had the same points in the post season. Debrusk on a team system with players he knows and lindholm on a new team and new system....

[@quakzl]

Poor Lindholm he missed out on 16.5 million dollars boo ho poor millionaire hockey player

[@Kevlar67476]

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