It’s NOT Playable - How The LEGO Ideas Grand Piano Actually Works

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BricksAhoy

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@BricksAhoy
@BricksAhoy 4 жыл бұрын
Corrections: The more I look at the images, the more I think the IR sensor may be blocked by default, and triggering keys actually un-obscures. But the function is still the same, whether I got the states wrong. What would a KZbin video be without mistakes? 😉
@onidub
@onidub 4 жыл бұрын
Ashnflash told his viewers told him to come here so i will support u sir
@miguelangelvives968
@miguelangelvives968 4 жыл бұрын
A good plataform?
@just_is
@just_is 4 жыл бұрын
:)
@andrelanger8396
@andrelanger8396 4 жыл бұрын
You are going to make more videos? It would be really sad / upsetting if this stays the only video of your channel. Since I really enjoyed watching it.
@stilldomi
@stilldomi 4 жыл бұрын
Television
@Swampert00260
@Swampert00260 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know lego did 18+ sets. I feel like anyone 14+ should be able to build just about any lego set
@jacksonlarson6099
@jacksonlarson6099 4 жыл бұрын
+18 is really just there to emphasize that these are targeted at adult collectors moreso than children looking for toys to play with. Of course, that doesn't stop anyone from buying it, nor is it meant to.
@johnfowler9424
@johnfowler9424 4 жыл бұрын
When I was younger I told a girl l liked I build model I shouldn’t be building lol it was so cringey
@ENCHANTMEN_
@ENCHANTMEN_ 4 жыл бұрын
It's 18+ due to the potential of a "twelve inch pianist" joke
@caleborg5688
@caleborg5688 4 жыл бұрын
18+ label is a scary concept for a lego toy
@nicolame5883
@nicolame5883 4 жыл бұрын
At 11 years, I bould a lot of +16 years
@Ashnflash
@Ashnflash 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so stunned and confused. Incredible video, incredible transitions and diagrams talking about the science. If this is true - then I will be beyond disappointed and will do a video on this. There hasn't been a review yet, but we'll see this weekend I guess. Incredible job. When I see more, I will spread this around. You earned a sub. Incredible quality man, can't wait to see more!
@BricksAhoy
@BricksAhoy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! You're literally my first sub 😍
@junebugforever
@junebugforever 4 жыл бұрын
Welp, looks like you’ll be doing a video on this (check Promobricks’ channel where they have a video demonstrating how the “play” function works)
@solaire67
@solaire67 4 жыл бұрын
Wait a few days. You'll have over 200 subs
@vir007--3
@vir007--3 4 жыл бұрын
Like if your here while you can still comment
@UlimitedCookie1
@UlimitedCookie1 4 жыл бұрын
E
@gugclo
@gugclo 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. Came over from Ashnflash and have subbed. This video needs to be watched by everyone considering this set.
@hitthebricks5502
@hitthebricks5502 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, really great video!
@DalekBricks
@DalekBricks 4 жыл бұрын
this is a certified BRUH moment
@toast_0h
@toast_0h 4 жыл бұрын
*E P I C B R U H M O M M E N T*
@TheMCCraftingTable
@TheMCCraftingTable 4 жыл бұрын
LEGO-Certified bruh moment
@skimpy2706
@skimpy2706 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheMCCraftingTable **BRUHS IN LEGO**
@moonriya
@moonriya 4 жыл бұрын
To be honest, if I wanted a toy piano that is actually playable and self-plays the *right* keys I could buy the SEGA mini grand piano for about the same price. The appeal with LEGO is that you can build it yourself, so it depends on what people are really after - are you interested in the mechanics or do you want the music? I guess there's no perfect world. :) Great video debut by the way!!
@tedioustotoro4885
@tedioustotoro4885 4 жыл бұрын
I had known about the original project so I knew what to expect and I’m going to get this set because it’s beautiful
@markymark9353
@markymark9353 4 жыл бұрын
Tedious Totoro I’ve been following this since the beginning too and I’m really enjoying the build of it since I got it. I hope you get yours soon
@HR-in1dm
@HR-in1dm 4 жыл бұрын
Came from Ashnflash. Your channel quality is incredible for the size of your channel. I subbed bc I can see this channel growing massive. Good luck on your journey bro
@lokologico
@lokologico 4 жыл бұрын
and like with most 18+ models, they just end up in display, so really who cares what it does..... :)
@Deuce_and_a_half
@Deuce_and_a_half 4 жыл бұрын
Probably the people who were mislead into buying it would care
@thebookhero5727
@thebookhero5727 4 жыл бұрын
I mean if I bought this for $350 I would care
@KiemPlant
@KiemPlant 4 жыл бұрын
I bought the Death Star back when I was 12 and basically never played with it. For me it was all about the building.
@jarlfenrir
@jarlfenrir 4 жыл бұрын
I see a new trend on youtube people playing songs with lego piano... so one might go and buy it before someone else has the same idea... and after assembly you are so disappointed :/
@davidsosa507
@davidsosa507 4 жыл бұрын
It costs $350. At what point are you better buying a Statue for 20 bucks at the supermarket, than a model... that's basically a statue if you never intend on using it, for 350?
@makutamiserix5612
@makutamiserix5612 4 жыл бұрын
This makes me skeptical about the upcoming typewriter set. Not just because it beat the Bionicle Ideas project, but now it's guaranteed not to work.
@MFN
@MFN 4 жыл бұрын
As A News Creator of Over a Qaurter Million subs and 2 verified channels, I am blown away that this is your first video. Just as you are confused on how they overlooked this, I am just as confused on how you made such an incredibly professional video that litterally is made for KZbin, From Timing, Thumbnail, Title, transitions, Narration.you are going to surpass everyone in your niche if you do more like this. My one puece of advice wpuld be to be consistant and keep pushing them out. It will soon outshine whatever career you are currently working and this WILL be your full time "Job" cant wait to see you grow. I may be in the News/Conspiracy Niche, but I am AFOL at heart. I may have to do a conspiracy video about how you did this with zero experience
@brickjam69
@brickjam69 4 жыл бұрын
Yikes, this doesn’t seem worth the money much anymore.
@shlimon7667
@shlimon7667 4 жыл бұрын
I mean it’s still cool with all the play features
@tylersmith8457
@tylersmith8457 4 жыл бұрын
Really glad I found this video. I was thinking of asking for it for Christmas (I completed a ton of architecture kits very quickly so I wanted some challenge) but the other video I watched advertised it as being able to play music and working just like a real grand piano. Obviously, I figured it wasn't that good, but I thought it would at least play the music. You just saved my grandparents from spending 350 bucks, so thanks. Great editing, by the way.
@Jahxr
@Jahxr 4 жыл бұрын
For a small channel your videos are amazing. They are structured well and edited fantastically
@KBLegoProductions
@KBLegoProductions 4 жыл бұрын
I knew this channel before you were famous! Years from now people will be looking at your first video and this is it! I subbed and congrats on 1000 subscribers!
@benjaminmichaud8511
@benjaminmichaud8511 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely wish they'd sold this without the powered up functions. I feel like an 18+ set doesn't need all of these gimmicks in order to sell. I want to get this for a fun building experience and display piece. I also know from the Creator Wind Turbine that Lego motors are way too whiny to want to have running while trying to listen to music from a phone speaker.
@ethan_bronzi
@ethan_bronzi 4 жыл бұрын
This is an amazingly high quality first video filled with useful information, I’m glad Ashnflash talked about you in his video. I can’t wait to see what video you make next.
@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm316
@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm316 4 жыл бұрын
I came from ashnflash but I didn’t sub because of him I subbed because I loved the video and it’s quality, keep up the great work:)
@FreakoRico999
@FreakoRico999 4 жыл бұрын
Hold up... Your FIRST video..? Feels like you've been editing and making these kind of videos for yeeaarss. Good job!
@grose24
@grose24 4 жыл бұрын
I can't explain how glad i am to have found this channel. Very high quality bro, keep up the awesome work!
@johnappleseed368
@johnappleseed368 4 жыл бұрын
i watched this video and the whole time i thought you were some big youtuber by the mic quality and quality of the video in general and then saw the subscribers, I got surprise. Good job
@NatTheeGnat
@NatTheeGnat 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe they could have put something similar to what they use in Lego Mario, with the scanners. That way it would have been able to sense each individual key
@landlighterfirestar5550
@landlighterfirestar5550 4 жыл бұрын
Then it would have been $500 or more with basically the same piece count, and it wouldn’t feel like LEGO anymore
@bradl8887
@bradl8887 4 жыл бұрын
Who on earth thought this set actually played music? It's Lego!! Come on, folks. Don't blame Lego for your own staggering incomprehension.
@sebastianbaker3532
@sebastianbaker3532 4 жыл бұрын
Firstly awesome video! I thought it was well structured and researched, keep em coming :)) Tbh, I wasn’t expecting the piano to actually be able to play music, I mostly see it as a gorgeous display piece. However, I only watched the video and skimmed the brickset article, so that will have impacted my judgement, and from what you’ve presented the marketing is somewhat misleading. I still really want to pick it up though, but there are so many good sets that have been released/are retiring this year it’s a tough choice ahhhh
@danparks8894
@danparks8894 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome first video. Fantastic production values too. Thanks for sharing
@ricoboogie2086
@ricoboogie2086 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. This is a perfect video. I am exactly the person you describe that was completely mislead by the product description and marketing papers. You are 100% correct with everything you say throughout this video, including the bit the way Nintendo implemented the idea and the reasons why Lego couldn't with this model. I hope this video gets watched by every single person interested in this product, and I look forward to whatever video you make next, because if it's even half as thorough as this was, it's gonna be an excellent watch!
@ObzornieObzori
@ObzornieObzori 4 жыл бұрын
Is it really your first video? It's amazing! Cool editing, interesting story telling, i can't belive that it is actually your first video
@VAULT-TEC_INC.
@VAULT-TEC_INC. 4 жыл бұрын
I’m shocked that the marketing department stretched the truth.
@fredericduran5186
@fredericduran5186 4 жыл бұрын
Your first vid? Nice! Some major potential spotted here! Hoping for more...
@Craimbow
@Craimbow 4 жыл бұрын
This is your first video? Well looks like your channel has been suited out pretty damn well already
@fantasybricks5194
@fantasybricks5194 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great explanation and some great editing. Great video man, keep up the great work.
@johnlemon7817
@johnlemon7817 4 жыл бұрын
Man this was an amazing first video, I don’t usually comment on videos but I just want to say keep uploading more videos and I hope you get all the subs you deserve
@Bengraziano
@Bengraziano 4 жыл бұрын
JK Brickworks needs to figure out how to make the keys actually play their respective notes. I wonder if Mindstorms would be capable of making that happen
@blablaennogwat
@blablaennogwat 4 жыл бұрын
With the new techniques in the Mario sets perhaps something is possible! You'll need one of those barcodes per key and a sensor that could read them all when pressed...
@nikkirennardo5100
@nikkirennardo5100 4 жыл бұрын
Probably something with the proximity sensor, but then you’d only be able to play one note at a time
@kalolawahine9182
@kalolawahine9182 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video ‼️ Honestly, I’m getting this set for 1-It’s ridiculous beauty 2-It’s technicalities 3-The sheer joy of LEGO I never actually thought it would have any sound worth hearing. That’s what REAL pianos are for!😉
@biga7682
@biga7682 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I thought it was playable. Great video, and I love the quality! You earned a subscriber1
@Kaito_Falcon
@Kaito_Falcon 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sad, I wanted to learn how to play piano on it thinking it was completely functional. At least my bank account is happy (although not really since I bought the NES).
@dalevridge
@dalevridge 4 жыл бұрын
First video of such quality? Subbed without any hesitation ;D
@thomasharris1090
@thomasharris1090 4 жыл бұрын
What a great video! Can’t believe you’ve only got 2k subscribers but I’m sure it’ll be 100k in no time. Subscribed! I’m not even interested in legos, but your videos are just so fascinating. Reminds me of engineering channels!
@jr.sciencebros.8411
@jr.sciencebros.8411 4 жыл бұрын
It's slightly disappointing and I do feel their marketing was misleading. However I still bought it, am about halfway through, and excited to use it with the app. The fact that it moves on its own is really cool.
@BricksAhoy
@BricksAhoy 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly! It's a fantastic set for what it is and I know a lot of people are going to be really happy with it. It's nearly studless exterior was one of the things that stood out to me. As long as people understand what they're getting, this set is beautiful
@DeroyJersson6575
@DeroyJersson6575 4 жыл бұрын
18+ doesn't in any way mean "it's not for kids", it simple means "we know you are an adult so prepare to spend some extra adult money for the same plastic". Not all adult sets are overpriced, granted, particularly this one . But the 18+ is a pure marketing technique and not a true age restriction or even suggestion. By the way, I'd be interested in hearing more from you in the future.
@nicholaswheeler3985
@nicholaswheeler3985 4 жыл бұрын
For the price of it, I never believed this would actually play sound like a real piano. It’s just not possible to code 25 individual notes from one sensor in this way. You’d need 25 of them - one for each note mechanism. Same for the playback - 25 actuators to move each mechanism independently. Whoever thought they’d get 25 sensors and 25 actuators plus all the bricks to build the mechanism and case for the money they’re asking...? The Bluetooth connection to add interactive sound is a fun afterthought, and it helps bring the piano to life in some way, however, I wouldn’t imagine it appealing to many over 18 year olds, so this is where I find the target age audience confusing for this set. I agree they could have easily made the power function an added option for the younger ones. I think it’s a great set, and I will get it - just because aesthetically and technically its looks fantastic! But I do agree with the thoughts in this video - the marketing will be misleading for some. It’s promised functionally has been rather over egged!
@tedioustotoro4885
@tedioustotoro4885 4 жыл бұрын
The thing is, the reason it ‘18+’ is because of the complexity of some of the builds such as the key mechanism
@Yurio
@Yurio 4 жыл бұрын
still pretty misleading, i think for $300 its a fair price without the sound anyway, but it took me like 2 or 3 reviews beforrer I realized it doesnt actually make sound
@iAmDru12
@iAmDru12 4 жыл бұрын
You could make a playable piano with one sensor,,, it'd just be monophonic. Not great, but still playable technically
@nicholaswheeler3985
@nicholaswheeler3985 4 жыл бұрын
Droo Stanlee How? How would it determine which note you were pressing? How do you make each key unique using one sensor so you can play a scale of notes? It would only play one note, which is effectively what it’s doing now - accept, the software connected via the Bluetooth just sounds the next note in the tune you’ve chosen each time it detects a pulse from the sensor, which is triggered by you pressing any one of the 25 keys.
@FTF96
@FTF96 4 жыл бұрын
MIDI is pennies, people are making stuff with an Arduino mini themselves. It could have been done.
@darkurio
@darkurio 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. These are the same suspicions I have about the piano as well, and what I find most disappointing is although Lego isn't lying, they are being very misleading and stretching the truth in their PR for this set. I would have rather they excluded the motor etc and cut the price like you mentioned as this is a gimmick that will probably be interesting for 5 minutes and a a couple minutes more for people who come into your home and are curious and that's it. But it's clear their goal is a) $$$ and b) building hype / promoting Lego, so everything they've done makes sense. They know that as long as they can build up the hype to critical levels, the set will sell out regardless before momentum diminishes and reviews start showing the negatives about the set.
@rkjuan6436
@rkjuan6436 4 жыл бұрын
This video is so amazing, one of the best LEGO videos I´ve ever seen, this explains evrything so clear and it makes so much sense, keep up the good work.
@magmyran3450
@magmyran3450 4 жыл бұрын
Is this really your first video? This is too good to be your first video... Anyways this video is epic you definitely earned a new sub!
@JackVR
@JackVR 4 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO! I love your channel!
@XY_Dude
@XY_Dude 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, it isn’t too hard or $$ to make this a playing (musical) 88. Attach small magnets to the key ends. Have a row of micro switches that close when the magnet gets close. A simple ribbon cable from the switches to the battery box/processor. It could play each note via a small speaker. Designs could have the blue tooth transmit the pressed note to the phone which an app could play a corresponding accompanying cord. Easy. Sell WAY more kits and not get flack.
@xtentasticx
@xtentasticx 4 жыл бұрын
Literally if you look up "Lego grand piano" it will pull up the Lego ideas page that says word for word "Build the first-ever playable LEGO® Grand Piano!"
@soapnova
@soapnova 4 жыл бұрын
All i can say is wow. this is excellent for ur first video! I browsed the lego website and also thought it was playable until i saw your video. im ur tenth sub now, remember me when you get big!
@e443productions9
@e443productions9 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah... LEGO really went along with the false advertising in this one
@jacksonlarson6099
@jacksonlarson6099 4 жыл бұрын
I like all the comments saying "if you really thought a Lego piano would ever work you're just a big stupid smelly idiot" as if though that justifies the misleading marketing in any way.
@landlighterfirestar5550
@landlighterfirestar5550 4 жыл бұрын
If you really thought the LEGO piano would work then you obviously misunderstood what LEGO meant by playable. The keys can be hit. The hammers are lifted. The hammers hit sudo-strings. Tell me, what exactly about this piano is misleading? (If you say it doesn’t detect individual notes then feel free spending hundreds of dollars developing a new sensor and then using dozens of them in the piano to make it do that. Can you see why LEGO didn’t do that?)
@kathalida
@kathalida 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. I agree that the marketing was misleading. I'm still excited to get the piano, as i was sure that it wasn't going to make sounds without the app. I ordered before midnight the night before Aug 1st, still backordered!
@Brickfilmer125
@Brickfilmer125 4 жыл бұрын
Incredible editing and super informative. Thank you for making this video!
@michaellacock
@michaellacock 4 жыл бұрын
They do/did sell the ir distance sensor separate. It was apart of the Lego WeDo 1st gen.
@penfold7800
@penfold7800 4 жыл бұрын
Yes and I guess, theoretically you could have it read across the hammers to determine which key was pressed, but in reality it would be totally impractical. For two simple, similar, reasons: The delay on the hammers falling back down to normal would block the other keys behind from being sensed at the right time, And Secondly, the software delay between sensor signal data, processing and playback would make anything remotely meaningfully tuneful impossible. If they had made a separate beep circuit on each key, it would have been hideously expensive, and it wouldn't have worked anyway because getting the tuning accurate with individually seperate circuits would have been near impossible. Just watching the videos from Yamaha Corp that explain the history of thier development of electronic keyboards over the years and how the mechanical aspects, and electronic circuitry work, makes it clear to me just how complicated it is.
@michaellacock
@michaellacock 4 жыл бұрын
@@penfold7800 very good points. I was also thinking about it too, even if software was used to determine what key was pressed, it would only work with one key at a time if there is only one sensor.
@Hippienolic2
@Hippienolic2 4 жыл бұрын
Great first video! Seems like you’ve been doing it for years
@bradleyejones
@bradleyejones 4 жыл бұрын
You can by a mini working keyboard from a dollar store and yet lego want over $300 for something that doesn't work, they could've used the barcode like tiles they used in Mario and Dimensions and made something like the Nintendo Labo keyboard
@mikaxms
@mikaxms 4 жыл бұрын
I’m here because of Ashnflash. Good explanation man! I was suspicious since it only has one sensor and one motor.
@mikaxms
@mikaxms 4 жыл бұрын
If LEGO uses a distance sensor they could perhaps determine which key is pressed, using only one sensor. Though, it would also only work with one key at a time.
@thomasstewart9752
@thomasstewart9752 4 жыл бұрын
if the element is an ir camera, it could work like the Nintendo labo piano.
@ThinkCleverAndSmart
@ThinkCleverAndSmart 4 жыл бұрын
I don't believe this sensor can see more than a yes or a no for obstruction. You would need one that can see actual measurements, like the ultrasonic sensor for the mindstorms line
@mikaxms
@mikaxms 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThinkCleverAndSmart Yeah, I know. I'm suggesting an alernative in which they could.
@ThinkCleverAndSmart
@ThinkCleverAndSmart 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. If they did, that would have been awesome
@maxthrust976
@maxthrust976 4 жыл бұрын
Here’s another alternative: colour coded dampers, and a music stand/phone rest that is positioned so your phone camera can see the dampers. Wouldn’t be as pretty inside, of course.
@hitthebricks5502
@hitthebricks5502 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Informative and well produced!
@wickettheewok7356
@wickettheewok7356 4 жыл бұрын
Im looking forward to this channel honestly underrated
@jensvanrooij8661
@jensvanrooij8661 4 жыл бұрын
This video definitely looks like a over 200k + KZbinr. Keep up the good work!
@noah.blackwood
@noah.blackwood 4 жыл бұрын
I still want this set super bad, but now I know the truth. Thanks so much for letting everyone know! I’ll probably still get it because I knew from the beginning that it wouldn’t be playable, mostly because of Donny Chen’s video but also because there just isn’t any effective way to get a brick built piano to play
@krispyskins2122
@krispyskins2122 4 жыл бұрын
I have to admit I actually was going to buy this thinking it could play ... and I was curious how Lego had achieved the ability to detect which keys were being pressed and translate to notes. Such a shame because I also thought it would be great for my younger kids to play and learn. Maybe get into learning for real. But 350 for a display piece is a lot. It remind me of the Lego Boost robot ... it was marketed very cleverly but the final product so disappointed. Lego and digital will I’m sure work. But we are probably still in the early days .... with consumers as the guinea pigs.
@FTF96
@FTF96 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that ended up being a dealbreaker for me too
@prime9908
@prime9908 4 жыл бұрын
wow I really cant think that a lego set which said that it is playable and the set is very expensive and have a lot of bricks can't play the real music that's kinda makes me sad
@RedDesertRoz
@RedDesertRoz 4 жыл бұрын
KZbin recommended this video to me, no doubt as it knows I follow several other LEGO channels. Enjoyed the video and subscribed.
@royboy84
@royboy84 4 жыл бұрын
I have (and love) this set, and while I see and mostly side with the issues with Lego's "playable" copy, there's another part of me that is thinking two things. 1. All lego sets are "playable" the definition is loose. The Millennium Falcon is playable but doesn't actually have a working hyperdrive. You're right that people are going to assume that "playable" in the context of a musical instrument = musical playability, don't disagree... just more about tempered expectations which brings me to 2... 2. This set was incredibly complex and huge. The elements don't exist that would enable unique key playback, let alone a tone generator, and I don't think there's enough in the pipeline to justify lego creating brand new pieces just for that functionality. I know this is a very engineering focused argument angle... but seriously, there'd need to be an IR sensor on every key, or they would need to find another way to figure that out, not to mention the tone generator. I think you present very fair commentary, but I'm a little disappointed in the reaction from the Lego community. I think focusing on the "playable" bit is far overshadowing the unique design of this amazing set. This set inspired me from the moment I saw it on Lego ideas, and I was blown away with how faithful of a recreation they were able to craft.
@vojtasjedyny
@vojtasjedyny 4 жыл бұрын
So true. Maybe LEGO put this 18+ on the box, because they thought adult people know that playable (in literal sense) toy is very hard to recreate.
@brickflyersmoothy8637
@brickflyersmoothy8637 4 жыл бұрын
Man, this was an amazing video and I learned a lot more about the grand piano thanks to you now! Little question: Are you also going to do MOC building or set reviews on your channel or are you going to focus more on lego news and explainations in the future? Anyways, amazing video and keep up the great work!
@mooster4080
@mooster4080 4 жыл бұрын
This seems like a video from a huge channel keep up the great work
@Oeli_Maurer
@Oeli_Maurer 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the sensor can detect how far the long technic axle lifts, as lower keys will lift it further up than higher keys due to leverage. And then the app can translate it back into a key press?
@xtentasticx
@xtentasticx 4 жыл бұрын
Lego: "You can actually play it!" Everyone: "so it makes sound??" Lego: "What did we say that had to do with an instrument making sound???"
@linuseike6041
@linuseike6041 4 жыл бұрын
Because in the music terminology “playable” means you can play the keys and press them down. “Playable” does NOT mean it makes a sound when pressed. But when they say it can play music as sounds, they are very wrong.
@xtentasticx
@xtentasticx 4 жыл бұрын
@@linuseike6041 actually in dictionary.com 4th definition: "produce (notes) from a musical instrument; perform (a piece of music"
@JustJamesYT
@JustJamesYT 4 жыл бұрын
@@xtentasticx did you miss where he said musical definition? So even if the technical definition is to play a sound, the musical terminology is different.
@gottagofast9464
@gottagofast9464 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone: starts swooshing the piano around...
@sampoetzsch7953
@sampoetzsch7953 4 жыл бұрын
Ladies and gentlemen... The most counter-intuitive lego set of all time! Btw, fantastic video. Subbed over from mandr.
@qq315465327
@qq315465327 4 жыл бұрын
maybe it is possible that the IR sensor can measure how much infrared light is reflected. You still have to account for the radius of rotation of that technique axle. Each key stroke rotates the axle for a different degree. Maybe that can be measured, maybe that cannot be measured. But it is still possible.
@v0ldelord
@v0ldelord 4 жыл бұрын
That is also what I was thinking, but I doubt the IR sensor is reliable enough to differentiate between all the different keys.
@_.go._
@_.go._ 3 жыл бұрын
I got confused with their “playable” until I see some speed build too. I don’t want the sensor or the app and I just want it as a decor if that means cutting down the price more
@LEGOxuan
@LEGOxuan 4 жыл бұрын
Your subscribers just went up so much because of AshnFlash’s video and shoutout for you. But for a first video this is really good.
@ToaMeikhaal
@ToaMeikhaal 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that insightful video! I already knew, of course, that it wasn't truly playable. However, per your brief snippet at the end with the Switch Labo, it's fun to imagine how it could be made functional!
@Evan-yx7gh
@Evan-yx7gh 4 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, I thought you were a really big lego youtuber, Great job, super High Quality
@Dac_vak
@Dac_vak 4 жыл бұрын
Good video. Please keep making more!
@ThisIsTeeKay
@ThisIsTeeKay 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Dacvak!
@mastersword648
@mastersword648 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading this and clearing this up. And wow might I add you have the potential to be a big LEGO you tuber cause you approach things from a great angle and your editing is actually good. So I have claimed the spot as your 24th sub!
@awesomeninja886mc2
@awesomeninja886mc2 4 жыл бұрын
I have an idea for how they could have made it functional: They add rubber bands and stretch them as necessary to fit the notes. Then the hammers would hit the bands and play a sound. No electronic components needed, and it's still playable. Sure, it may not sound EXACTLY like a grand piano (edit: it would probably sound a bit more like an acoustic guitar now that I think about it) but it's still playable. Not sure how they would input the pre-recorded songs though.
@ThinkCleverAndSmart
@ThinkCleverAndSmart 4 жыл бұрын
The stretched rubber bands would indeed make some sound, but not much. Also, the tension created would be far too big for any lego construction to handle. That's why real pianos have a solid cast frame (the harp) to hold the strings
@awesomeninja886mc2
@awesomeninja886mc2 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThinkCleverAndSmart Good point, though I can't really see an alternative. But the rubber bands might fit if they were stretched just past where the hammer hits them. Maybe one end would be placed around a half inch past the point where the hammer hits the band, and the rest of it stretches underneath the hammer.
@jameskratzer4538
@jameskratzer4538 4 жыл бұрын
There are contact-sensitive transistors available that LEGO could have built into bricks, in segments, to click onto mounting plates for each hammer to strike when playing the keys. This set is more of an adult model than a child's toy anyway, so it would have almost been a fit replacement for the canceled Osprey. But then, it may have been an incursion from Technics and Ideas into Mindstorms or Boost!, and we couldn't have that, now could we?😱
@awesomeninja886mc2
@awesomeninja886mc2 4 жыл бұрын
@@jameskratzer4538 I mean the real set has a motor and whatnot so it's not unlikely that they would do that. Though I do wonder if it would still fit.
@getoveryourself2212
@getoveryourself2212 4 жыл бұрын
I was going to get my sister this for Christmas.. now I realize I'd be better off getting her a digital piano at the SAME price that ACTUALLY plays real notes..
@chiefbuffalohump1598
@chiefbuffalohump1598 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid. I was considering buying this and I’m glad you covered this because I had thought it was fully playable. You got yourself a new sub
@harkiratgolar1879
@harkiratgolar1879 4 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic, informative and straight to the point video. Thanks mate, appreciate it
@saberpotatoboy4151
@saberpotatoboy4151 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! This helped me learn more about the functions.I still like the set though, I wasn’t really expecting it to to be playable, i mean it’s LEGO! Can wait to see more vids!
@Stevo_1985
@Stevo_1985 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and argument, and you're absolutely right on Lego's write up of the set - it is misleading. But before hearing your argument, I honestly thought it would simply be a mechanical showpeice. Every Lego brick would sound the same when hit, I thought. Nintendo, like you said, would never create a piano that wasn't interactive - they're all about the final experience. Personally, I think my issue with the set is that it has only 25 keys for such a big kit. 88 keys and piano body that wasn't so bulky would have been awesome - and that I would buy. They could have even bundled a real size hammer mechanism on its own stand for educational purposes. So for me, it's too bulky, and 63 keys away from parting with my money. There are some great functions on this piano, but it could all have been built into a much more realistic display piece. So, the NES set, really awesome. But I'd feel a cheat to buy that too, since I grew up on the Atari 2600, and moved straight to the Super Nintendo. Kinda missed out on the 8-Bit generation.
@anothergol
@anothergol 4 жыл бұрын
With how the phone is placed right in front of the hammers, I was expecting the phone's camera to actually watch which ones are up. However I imagine they're way too close to the phone for that to work. Still, if the hammers work reliably, it would still be possible for a third-party app to make it truly work. Only the phone would have to be placed somewhere when it can see all of the hammers. With today's tracking, it shouldn't be the hardest task.
@37Draakje
@37Draakje 4 жыл бұрын
The reason it cant make music by its own is due to the fact the strings would be top short. Everyone with common sense would know a lego set like this wont produce sound by itself...
@BricksAhoy
@BricksAhoy 4 жыл бұрын
On its own, no. With app integration and sensors, like this had, it could have seemed much more possible. A lot of people misinterpreted the language. I don't think there were many people that would think the plastic would actually create sound on its own, though
@vojtasjedyny
@vojtasjedyny 4 жыл бұрын
@@BricksAhoy You would be surprised. McDonalds put "Caution: Hot" on coffee cup for a reason. :>
@petercantilina6174
@petercantilina6174 4 жыл бұрын
this was so helpful!! this really cleared up my confusion. i play the piano and i am kind of mad that you cant actually play this one
@deffonotluke
@deffonotluke 4 жыл бұрын
What? How can Lego do this? This is outrageous. It's unfair! How can you be a piano and not be playable?
@landlighterfirestar5550
@landlighterfirestar5550 4 жыл бұрын
It is playable. No sound, because that’s impossible to do with LEGO
@deffonotluke
@deffonotluke 4 жыл бұрын
@@landlighterfirestar5550 ...through the app?
@RadicalCapitol
@RadicalCapitol 4 жыл бұрын
I still wish it functioned like the Nintendo LABO Piano. It really would only need a slightly more expensive IR camera, and IR Reflective Stickers that could either be applied at the factory, or by the builder.
@burpingboy
@burpingboy 4 жыл бұрын
I managed to make this piano really playable! [Lego 21323 Piano now playable with Nintendo Labo Toy-Con Garage](kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2KWZ6xons17mtk) This is a proof of concept for the Lego Grand Piano to work with the Nintendo Labo Toy-Con Garage with Joy-Con IR cameras and reflective stickers based on how the Nintendo Labo Piano works.
@toddwz
@toddwz 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. I can feel the anger coming out of my phone. :)
@BricksAhoy
@BricksAhoy 4 жыл бұрын
Lol! It was more frustration than anything
@cyboticzombie
@cyboticzombie 4 жыл бұрын
The only Lego channel who passed the 1000 sub mark with a single video
@ConsumerOfCringe
@ConsumerOfCringe 4 жыл бұрын
I cant beleive nobody noticed the jar jar quote at the beginning, props to you BricksAhoy
@fendergan
@fendergan 4 жыл бұрын
I am one of those that bought it for educational reasons for my child and thought it was an actual playable piano. I did no research whatsoever prior to buying it. It was a little disappointing to find out that it couldn’t be played like a real piano. If I had seen your video prior to to buying it, I definitely would not have bought it. That being said, it was a very fun and satisfying build and will go great as a display piece on the shelf. Great video!
@DisneyMarkUK
@DisneyMarkUK 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, cheers
@lukehendrickson6268
@lukehendrickson6268 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video, I’ve been looking for something like this that actually explains how it works
@joevictor53
@joevictor53 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree. Lego has totally mislead people with the marketing. I was on the fence about this set. The price put me off but them saying it was playable made it more appealing. I'd rather they leave the music playing part out of it and make it cheaper. The 18+ thing doesn't bother me. That's just Lego's new way of branding sets aimed at adults like Creator Expert or the bigger Lego Ideas sets. I have a bigger problem with the boxart. I know it's supposed to look more mature but eventually they're all going to start to look the same. Just black backgrounds are boring. I'd love to hear your opinion on that. I feel like I'm the only one bothered by this
@BricksAhoy
@BricksAhoy 4 жыл бұрын
I've already started outlining a video on 18+. It doesn't really affect me since I'm well over 18, but hearing 18+, my mind goes to other places and I could see some parents being concerned about potential adult content/themes within. I understand the purpose of it, but I'm not sure if 18+ was the best way to try to appeal to adult audiences (as it may shut out capable builders of younger age, or make them feel uneasy). I'm enjoying the more minimalistic boxart at the moment, as long as the sets warrant it. The black-on-black could have been an issue here, but they did a good job with the spotlight, and a few rays of light from the top to make it not so bland. The piano looks like it's center stage at a concert. Something about the black backgrounds makes the sets themselves shine a bit more, as there's less distraction. I think my least favourite black box so far was the Haunted House. The olive green strip across the bottom and blue glow didn't really do it for me, and a more traditional digitally-painted background would probably have looked better IMO for that set. I feel a bit of spooky atmosphere would have made that one look better. But yeah, over time this minimalistic boxart style could indeed get bland. For now though, I'm not minding it too much.
@joevictor53
@joevictor53 4 жыл бұрын
@@BricksAhoy Fair enough. I'm over 18 too and I don't mind that replacing Creator Expert. With some sets, I think the boxart works like the Star Wars helmets or UCS sets but the Haunted House is one where I feel like the older box art was better. I own the other fairground rides and I love their boxart showing the fairground behind it. My favourite series is the Creator Expert vehicles and even though I know a car with a spotlight on it will look good, I think I prefer the car in front of a background that fits it. Can't wait for that video of yours. I would never have guessed this is your first one. It was really good
@renascitur7051
@renascitur7051 4 жыл бұрын
Woah. They can make a piano with 2 octaves play clair de lune... I wish I could do that
@Notolderthanyou
@Notolderthanyou 4 жыл бұрын
You grew very very quickly good job 👏
@nutellaontoast4281
@nutellaontoast4281 4 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal video, was sent over by ashnflash and couldn't make a better video myself!
@deanj.9324
@deanj.9324 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunate news. Glad you said something! You are Dean Approved
@aquaticchaos1717
@aquaticchaos1717 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting video! I was unsure about playability myself, but I’d argue it’s 18+ because it could be using advanced building techniques, akin to other massive models like the NES and Death Star(s)
@BricksAhoy
@BricksAhoy 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not too sold on this. It feels like LEGO is pushing a number of sets toward adult fans to try to reduce the stigma around LEGO being a child's toy. The four Art mosaic sets are 18+, too, and they're literally instructions for putting the correct stud/tile in the correct spot. Like paint by numbers without the added difficulty of having to stay within the lines, and if you make a mistake, you have a brick separator handy. I do think this piano would have been 14+ or 16+, if the age was based on build difficulty
@rehabmax
@rehabmax 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I really did think you would get sounds out of the piano by hitting the keys.
@jarlfenrir
@jarlfenrir 4 жыл бұрын
Same. At least at the first glance.
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