It's STUNNING but.... - Finalmouse Starlight-12

[@Quettesh]

When Logitech is the reasonably prices brand. We are living in a crazy time.

[@SirAlph4]

Logitech makes some amazing mices and probably most of the viewer's have one if they are watching a video about mouses.

[@rokasbriedis5128]

mice* 💀

[@Quettesh]

@@SirAlph4 I know, I have G502 Lightspeed and G Pro X. It is amazing how competition brought Logitech prices this low. G Pro X started here at 4200CZK and now they are selling it for 2300CZK.

[@tjeulink]

logitech is reasonably priced. it isn't highly competitive but its a high end brand with very good support.

[@StrikeAxl]

My G Pro wired has been going strong for about two years now. Not only it was like $49.99, but it's also been creazy good quality and reliable.

[@joemarais7683]

Any company that only thrives by creating demand through manufactured scarcity can go to hell.

[@Konarcoffee]

Yeah keep this fashion industry scam shit from thriving in the PC hardware space, it sucks

[@IncorrigibleBigotry]

The truest of words. Well said.

[@TD1237]

Actually it makes sense. Rich people and show-offs can spend money on limited items while people like us who don't care about that stuff can *ignore* it.

[@salmiakki5638]

Amen. Literally no reason to do this, since they are mass produced goods anyway. Just capitalizing on FOMO of some . Imho that's shady at best

[@RayanMADAO]

Sounds like the scarcity method is working if you're upset about it. Just don't buy them

[@__vha]

I've had my phantom for a while, the scroll wheel occasionally has a ghost input. Finalmouse has gone and blamed it on the end user rather than the terrible scroll wheel encoder. Even using the updated firmware the scroll wheel still has ghost inputs. I've jumped in CS and Valorant on accident because of it, I notice if you're switching between M2 and M1 the ghost input occurs.

[@atienzo98]

Dang, how much did it cost

[@HakuTheBrat]

Ah, the Apple way of doing things

[@Slay1337pl]

The fact that this has 40 likes is enough reason for me to not get or recommend their products.

[@__vha]

@@atienzo98 I got mine for retail price + shipping to Canada.

[@hourparh587]

same issues here I got the Ares and plays a lot of cs I tend to randomly jump and it really sucks as a person who jumps on the mw, asked the support they told me it was a software issue they got me something it update it and didn't notice anything new with the mouse at all. What surprised me the most was their support advertising one year warranty with specially trained people to fix your mouse or something like that. Thought if anything like this would happen I could just send it back and yet nothing.

[@Matt-bj6re]

I love their mice as i had the original phantom, then went with a starlight-12 ares, and i just got my starlight-12 phantom. But they are hands down the WORST company when it comes to quality control and RMA issues. When i got my phantom i had a stuck left click, which is an easy fix and i can do it myself, but the other issue was my mouse would not connect wirelessly to any computer i had and nothing would work. So i sent it in, they assured me they would test it before sending it back. However, when i got it back, the left click was fixed, but the mouse still did not connect to my pc wirelessly. not only that, but they didn't even put 2 of the 4 mousefeet back on since you have to take it off to unscrew the shell. I complained, and instead of the email thread taking a week like it did the first time, it took 2 weeks for them to reply. Only after i threatened a refund and asking for their address personally, did they finally repair it. Not only that, but the mouse is covered under warranty, the first time they covered shipping, but because they did not reply the second time, i had to pay for shipping myself. Horrible company with customer service, i hate that i love their mice, because if there was a competing company with magnesium mice, i would go with them 100%.

[@FiniteCS]

G-Wolves has been prototyping one, so luckily we won't have to deal with finalmeme's shittiness.

[@ejd0118]

I'd at least have some respect for the brand if they were low yield, high quality like an artisan mechanical keyboard. But They clearly use marketing to cover up their terrible production times, which again wouldn't be so bad if they actually made a consistently high quality product

[@thunderarch5951]

Finally someone that doesn't worship the shit out of this mouse only cause it costs a lot Personal preference, the mouse I've loved and still use is a Razer viper, the cabled version cause I don't really care about wireless

[@TheSecondOne123]

The price is crazy, and I paid out the ass for the Razer viper wireless just because of the charging stand. But even if that was pricey, it fixed my problem of hating wires but hating charging things even more. And I also buy dumb shit because it looks nice all the time. Basically why I bought the G915. This mouse though... looks cheap to me (completely subjective, I know.) Like a cheap toy that you'd get in a happy meal. It doesn't feel/look artesian or expensive at all.

[@slimerone]

So worth it to get the viper ultimate, I love that mouse

[@Chris-hw4mq]

First time I hear of this company but from what I can see they sell it more as art not tech

[@ryndrssn]

But once you go wireless, you can never go back so heads up bud ;)

[@chrometape]

@@ryndrssn actually, I went wireless a couple years ago and decided to go back to wired because dealing with batteries was a pain

[@Mr.Morden]

I had a mouse with holes in it back in 2006. It also had a small fan inside to cool my hand and it had fabric covered buttons.

[@Shak_ingmyhead]

Honest to goodness I spent a couple minutes staring at the thumbnail wondering if the mice had gunk on it. Idk fam, in my eyes it looks like a mish-mash of cliche decals (with a finish that straight-up make them look like stickers), a plasticky body/housing, with a shit-tonne of indiscriminately placed glitter sprinkled on top. Something that wouldn't be incredibly out of place in a daycare arts&crafts room. Sure I may not be into perforated, lightweight mice in general either, but I certainly wouldn't deny the valid functional benefits they present to a sizeable community with more specific use-case preferences/needs. But this particular colourway/option... it's just really, *really* hard to view in a positive light...

[@Lucisael]

I just don't see how everyone seems to think these mice look good.

[@joemarais7683]

They don't, people only want them because FOMO and knowing they'll be able to scalp them for triple the price. The look and quality don't matter.

[@buzzlightyearoh]

They look like shit but they’re kind of a status symbol

[@cyroz2]

its better than some basic solid color mouse

[@nathanlee8494]

i personally think i could work with these in a blue and black theme serup

[@TD1237]

Ikr, it looks interesting but these are the same kinda people who throw tantrums when there's a red button or a slightly squared-off font on a keyboard... so I honestly don't know how he can like something like this.

[@Mark-M72]

totally agree about any device with micro usb . . . WHY! IT'S 2022!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@ZenTunE-]

Because the point of these mice are to be the lightest possible..

[@megadeth8592]

@@ZenTunE- what a smooth brain response

[@ZenTunE-]

@@megadeth8592 My response answers his question perfectly so I fail to see what's wrong with it

[@joemarais7683]

@@ZenTunE- your response is a stupid answer, that's why. The weight difference between compact control boards and connector for usbc and micro USB is within 0.5 grams. 1% weight difference is neglegible and they only don't have it because they make cheap garbage mice that they call premium because they only make 7 of each model.

[@jomeyqmalone]

The worst are the micro usb 3.0 version connectors. I'm shocked when one of those actually works. Not a huge type C fan myself, but it's a HUGE improvement over those.

[@igrvks]

I am a weirdo with large hands and I would like to have a mouse like the original Duke Xbox controller, big and heavy.

[@macberg5806]

You don’t need a heavy mouse you just need a large one that fits your hand better. The shape is everything, but being light is better than heavy.

[@Funky_Brother]

There's the HyperX Pulsefire Haste. Pretty big and affordable

[@asinner7418]

G502 maybe

[@IamKryptonite]

The bottom is plastic, not magnesium. This is so that the mouse can be wireless. 3:05

[@xtreamchance]

When Laser James does an unboxing, he can't contain his jaded expectations. Riley, and David for that matter, are often enraptured with a child's expectation on Christmas day, giddy at what the boxes/packages might contain. Alex Clarke & Lois has that elder sibling hope that the item might live up to the hype, but the subtle holding back that it too might crash and burn with not being very good. This is what makes an excellent execution of a show, each player having a largely different perspective, or a slightly variegated perspective, but the delivery of each is outstanding.

[@iamsmashy]

Appreciated the subtle pride superlight. Nice to just have something there that isn’t in your face but is very real

[@Neoxon619]

I keep forgetting that wireless mice are basically on-par with their wired siblings. It’s amazing how far wireless technology has come. Also, can microUSB die in a fire?

[@danielpham8627]

BT still sucks

[@-aexc-]

wireless audio still sucks tho :(

[@Neoxon619]

@@-aexc- That might change soon if Apple’s plan to do wireless lossless audio comes to fruition later this year.

[@Dhaydon75]

@@Neoxon619 The problem is rather you have to choose soundquality or latency atleast for gaming. And high bandwidth codecs tend to have quite a bit less range.

[@niar69]

It was done to save a bit of weight, that's why the superlight also uses micro usb. It's really not as big of a problem as people make it out to be, you only charge it once for an hour and it holds for a week, not a big deal

[@crisnmaryfam7344]

3:00 Becoming a trademark of their products at this point, but check out that crooked scroll wheel. Some real quality build right thur.

[@TheRogueWolf]

I know he's saying "grams", but his pronunciation makes it sound like "graNs", and now I'm imagining a weight system based on grandmothers.

[@McLovinMods]

A few years ago everyone was about weighted mice... Now it's ultra light mice... What's next? Do we just settle in the middle and then cycle back through?

[@mradamcshaw]

Enough with the small light mice. Please review large mice for large hands.

[@touchofthorn1841]

The price is crazy but I can’t knock the quality, I’ve had mine for almost a year now and zero issues and works as good as the day I got it, best mouse I’ve ever used, can’t see myself ever switching

[@DX88]

I have a feeling David has changed somewhat. Don't know what exactly, but something is different.

[@Madblaster6]

Shaved and lost a lot of weight

[@squirrelsam9]

I don't understand light mice. I've always preferred heavy ones. with High DPI you shouldn't ever need to lift it or move it very far.

[@dickolatemccabe2509]

fatigue from repeated movement tends to be increased with heavier mice. can also be seen with hard to press keys on a keyboard. U must have buff af arms

[@squirrelsam9]

@@dickolatemccabe2509 I really don't have to move my arm. It's all in the wrist.

[@grammarpolice1013]

@@squirrelsam9 it's hard to track targets with high DPI/sensitivity

[@curlyfredderk6116]

@@squirrelsam9 your wrist is where youll feel the fatigue 1st, not in your arm, so for wrist aimers lighter mice have the added benefit of reducing the risk of rsi

[@cuozu]

@@squirrelsam9 Not everyone plays wrist only, people play things where they want a lower sensitivity. This is a gaming nice for a reason, nobody buys this to just browse the internet

[@oserus999]

Am I the only one that appreciates mice that include weights?

[@AXV22]

David is such a character, I love it. Bring him back for more!!

[@mqaisataloss.5951]

David is in the zone, awesome job on the presentation.

[@k680B]

it's stunning but it's incredibly expensive, hard to get and only marginally better than widely available alternatives, such as logitech, razer or glorious

[@salmiakki5638]

I don't think it even looks decent... It may be because it's the first time I'm exposed to the brand and I don't feel the marketing on me tho

[@huttonberries768]

@@salmiakki5638 it looks like shit imho

[@thunderarch5951]

It's not even marginally better, precision wise falls under a superlight or a Viper You get your 42-47g, but with a tough material to work with and the shitty quality control of finalmouse Not sure if it's worth over a 60-70g mouse

[@shinefake48]

i doubt is meant to be an always available consumer product. This is like Supreme of the mice world. They say they would never restock models that have been sold out, as they are just here to mark a spot in history

[@mel-ju7kp]

Glorious💀

[@onemorepsi]

I think you missed the point of this mouse. Wireless and as light as possible are the top priorities. The people who pay $190 for this, if they're even lucky enough to get one, don't care if it has a receiver holder or type-c. Shape and weight are king for fps.

[@anonymoushyphen]

Exactly... It's almost like they didn't do any form of research about finalmouse or their products lol

[@DaveAlkema]

Old video, I know, but recently got into the mouse game. I picked up a GPX Superlight as well as the Starlight Last Legend medium. Out of the two, I perform about the same in game. I noticed I'm a little bit more dialed in with the GPX, but I might have just been having a good day. I've almost entirely switched to the Starlight at this point, with my Pulsar X2 medium taking up my secondary role. I'm going to keep the GPX, but it will probably live in my office rather than my gaming setup.

[@frankiesomeone]

the honeycomb pattern efficiently maximizes gunk and grime absorption

[@fudeldideldu]

New Haircut, shaven beard and such nice bolt ear studs... David tuned up for videoshoot :) I love....

[@axtre]

So it's limited quantity and has some special design but everything else just sucks? Even compared to way cheaper mice, how much did it go for again?

[@Myke1814]

David is the best host. Please have him in more videos.

[@ForEverydayPeople]

We need more of this guy. He's hilarious!

[@kdawg3484]

Designer mouse with multiple features missing that have been standard on all mice forever for 2-4x the price. Once you lose that transmitter (and you probably will) it literally will just be crappy expensive art on your shelf.

[@SpookySkeletonGang]

I like seeing the more general consumer perspective on mice, but I'd really love to hear from someone who's super knowledgeable about mice talk about some of these. This mouse being nearly 40 grams is very much the selling point, not the looks.

[@thunderarch5951]

Exactly, but you get to a point when unless you are an extreme enthusiast, you won't feel the difference between 42-47g and 60g And that aside, build quality and precision lack a lot It might be done with magnesium, but there's a reason nobody else does, it's costly and hard to do, and finalmouse is know to have the worst quality control, so I'll leave it to you But if you look you'll find plenty of enthusiasts worshipping this mouse

[@curlyfredderk6116]

they perform as well as any other flagship wireless mice if the shape suits you. the main issues people have with the mouse are the qc issues, the artificial scarcity and the price due to the artificial scarcity, however at msrp the price isnt so bad considering that logitech said that they wouldnt try to make metal mice because it is too expensive to do. if you know youll like the shape its a decent purchase at msrp, however at aftermarket prices youre better off going with a g pro x or rvu

[@shawndiaz7528]

Check out Boardzy's channel

[@Drinkyoghurt]

Rocketjumpninja does in depth reviews but these days it's pretty much all about how a mouse feels. Sensors are good in pretty much all name brand mice and so is quality so it comes down to price and ergonomics.

[@williamcoburn4486]

David, why you lookin so spicy today HMMMMM

[@30DayReviews]

so its a 92 honda escort with a fancy paint job and rims

[@ac.creations]

Ive found turning down windows sensitivity and turning up dpi gives me a better experience on a Logitech Hero Pro wireless. It made aiming easier in micro movements. So i go like 5k+ dpi in a 1 sq ft mouse area.

[@Secret_Takodachi]

lol this is the first time I've seen a limited stock tech product that triggered an overwhelming sense of apathy. Great coverage but yeah... if you wanna spend more and get less: this company seems like a fantastic option 🤣

[@jackblackwhole]

The biggest issue with Final mouse imo is prob the unfortunate circumstances when you need to fix your mice, there’s very little you can do. Since it’s already hard enough to get in touch with the company and apparently they stopped making mice…

[@Healp145]

That scale 😭😭😭 OkayChamp 😭😭😭

[@YourCloudyyy]

CORRECTION: there is a software and its for adjusting the debounce for the wheel and clicks...you can go to their discord and download (kid you not its called "i am a dumbass" software")

[@SyntheticFuture]

This mouse will get so digusting in so little time... also a light mouse for endurance? My wrist are super flimsy but I've never experienced the mouse being too heavy (having a G402). For this pricing this really makes very little sense.

[@YourCloudyyy]

no it wont get filthy lol the inside is coated and you can just blow the stuff out if it gets dirty ..it wont hurt anything . Also trust me try a light mouse it will change your mind, i have horrible wrist problems and had the same opinion as you before i got into mice and it changed my gameplay and overall comfort

[@Shyvorix]

As someone who has wrist aimed with an og 502 and developed carpal tunnel as a result, moving to a Viper Ultimate to a GPX Superlight has been absolutely astoundingly worth it. As for the dirtiness....honestly as long as you clean your peripherals every few weeks like you should....like anything you touch all the time everyday....it'll be nice and clean long term. And if anything dust the inside with a brush lightly or compressed air.

[@YourCloudyyy]

@@Shyvorix exactly

[@StreetPreacherr]

People consider these 'beautiful works of art'? Are they HAND PAINTED or something? Art is subjective, but I don't consider the designs especially creative or inspired... But STUNNING? And wow, a plastic mouse with a bunch of holes drilled in it is light? SHOCKING! OR is this complete SARCASM? It's been getting SO HARD to detect sarcasm recently...

[@VariadoBR]

I just love David's energy so much!

[@DylanDAG]

I was really expecting him to compare it to a glorious model O

[@ocudagledam]

Weirdly enough, I wonder how the Model O feels and at the same time I've had one of them fresh in the box stashed in the cupboard for close to two years. I somehow don't feel like unboxing it when I'm not really going to use (I'm using a CM Xornet II on the desktop and on the laptop I've got an MX Anywhere 2s and I don't feel like swapping out any of those).

[@DylanDAG]

@@ocudagledam it's funny, I got a model O when it came out because all my previous mice started double clicking and I had always wanted a final mouse but, there was no way I could get my hands on one for the prices they went for. The model O turned out to be a warhorse, no issues with with anythibg for the years I've had it, in fact the cable wore out from use before anything else and they replaced it for free. in terms of feel, I believe it's shape is a clone of a popular zowie mouse, I'm not sure which model but the weight is a godsend for flicking in fps games.

[@jascha5303]

@@DylanDAG from my understanding the model o is very close to Zowies fk series. I actually owned a fk2 before I bought my model o- since it's newer, lighter, has more features and still basically the same shape that I already loved about the fk2. And I have to say I'm really happy I bought it, it's awesome!

[@donotworried]

I missed host David

[@Metafelle]

so many gaming normies and less competitive people in the comments it seems. finalmouse may be a shitty company in terms of the inconsistent qc and wack support but they are far ahead of the curve when it comes to mice.

[@mastaboog749]

Thanks David I've been building some sick keyboards and have been needing a SUPER mouse and didn't know of this company. Going to keep and eye out for future drops

[@Accuaro]

Why give this company any coverage at all

[@Cumfortable]

Bc they're bringing down the value of the mouse that too many people hyped up. Bc it is over valued.

[@hofkingpin3216]

3:04 the bottom is not made from magnesium alloy like the sides and the top, it's made from ultem (fancy for plastic) so wireless signal can escape. that's also why they don't recommend stress testing the bottom

[@Dracossaint]

Can the marketing just go die in a fire call it what it actually is, plastic

[@richardmiklos]

And that's also why I have to turn off the 2.4GHz band on my router to be able to play with the mouse.

[@oplkfdhgk]

i don't really get this low weight mouse trend. i have hard time using even g502 without the extra weights. maybe i spend too much time at gym? 😀

[@macberg5806]

I spend a lot of time at the gym and don’t have any problems aiming lmao. You’re prolly just bad no offense 😂

[@kuramaow]

Maybe your not in the gym enough, if your control over your arm is that poor :(

[@EliteProductions3129]

Same here. I think it's incredibly dumb.

[@PurpleKnightmare]

I don't use a mouse anymore, I switched back to trackball. Is there anyway you guys could review those?

[@macberg5806]

If you like the viper mini you’ll like the small version of this mouse. It’s Wireless and lighter too big W. Only bad thing is the price

[@coloradocarbon]

I always was disappointed that my favorite tech channel Linus Tech didnt do reviews on very niche Esports gear. Linus tech is not a gaming channel but it is responsible for getting me into gaming. Short circuit has filled what i wasnt getting from the main channel. I very much appreciate and feel lucky to have the media groups expertise on everything from esports equipment to general custom pc product information. I hope they are able to get their hands on the Finalmouse Centerpiece Keyboard and do a review on that product next.

[@arcanescroll]

I'm weird, I prefer a heavy mouse. Logitech G502 with all the weights FTW.

[@danielpham8627]

If only their software wasn't dogshit

[@arcanescroll]

@@danielpham8627 it gets the job done, no worse than any of the other manufacturers software.

[@SeekingSomeSerenity]

I absolutely love your pride flag superlight, David.

[@cosmic5789]

I own one of the original 4 gods colors and I love the mouse immensely.

[@GavinPetty]

Those mice look like they would turn my hand into shredded cheese.

[@zeekjones1]

I see the design... _'Ha ha... It's wearing a suit.'_ Pretty cool though.

[@clar5874]

What an ugly mouse. It's like Ed Hardy decided to make a gaming mouse.

[@BlazeingGoldReviews]

i use a glorious model o wireless, and i love the mouse. its great for borderlands 3 and destiny 2. Good for strategy games too.

[@LaMereACaniche]

They're the supreme of the tech world, who would've thought they'd be overhyped garbage.

[@blu_vin]

David you rock. thank you for all those awesome mouse short circuits

[@voice5sur5]

They lost me at "Micro USB" At this point I am not willing to give up the convenience of type-c for anything.

[@K0ALA.]

Can you guys short circuit one of those Stem players from tik tok?

[@ProfessorMad86]

Those honeycomb style housing may be fancy when it is new, but i can not image this is looking any good after 1-2 years of use.

[@tunglamduong3000]

Micro USB in 2022. Man and I thought Logitech was bad when it comes to transitioning to USB C

[@TetsuYkt]

why are everyone so hang up on the micro b, I have a g pro x superlight and couldn't care less about the connector. also never had a micro b connector or cable break on me, still have my original ps4 cable and ds4 from 2014 working flawlessly.

[@tunglamduong3000]

@@TetsuYkt I would much rather everything I own to move to an universalized connecter so I don't have to keep a bunch of different types of cables around for my devices. I had a few micro cables broke on me back in the Galaxy Note 5 days and those are cables that came with the box so my experience with the connecter hasn't been smooth sailing. It's just unnecessary cost cutting for a product clearly aimed towards the luxury segment. People has been giving Apple crap for keeping Lightning connecter a thing so I don't see why we can't do the same for MicroB

[@razerow3391]

too light means that even breathing will affect your aim which is bad. Jesus, who is this linkin park papa roach looking reject? I can smell the smeg on his breath from here.

[@SISSYPUSS]

Bwahaha "smell the smeg on his breath" - joker! ☺

[@fnr784]

I use Aerox 3 for a long time. Its a life-time mouce for everything, with type c, wired, bluetooth connectivity option for no-dongle expirience on laptops. I think all the downsides of Finalmouce just for 10g is not worth it at all.

[@TheReal_ist]

I love my G502 and i love having software and the infinite scroll wheel. Weight means really nothing to me. As the G502 weighs like 121 without weights anyway which is perfectly fine for me. Honestly if it felt lighter i fell like id like it less due to how it fells in the hand and of course breaking it when i rage in games. Oh ya its more then double the price. Lol no.

[@HappyZavulon]

Same, I actually added the weights because it felt too light for me.

[@TheReal_ist]

@@HappyZavulon I should play around with it ya. Ive never even tried them TBH liked how it felt without them so kept it that way. lol

[@EcoAcid]

I have a modded G502 Lightspeed at 68 grams. I still wish it was lighter. God-tier mouse though.

[@squirrelsam9]

Same. I use the G502 with all the weights added.

[@kloklojul]

Double? The final mouse costs 190€. The g502 only 30€. Also the g502 performs like a 190€ mouse while the final more like 20€.

[@felixbelanger2659]

Would be nice to see a review of Zy's Xtrify next!

[@Ortagonation]

the rainbow in the logitech tho made it super ugly...

[@wormspeaker]

Frankly I prefer weighty mice. I like the heft of moving the mouse, it just makes it smoother for me. So it's nice to not have to pay a premium for lightness.

[@Joe.Rogan.]

Final mouse kinda feels like a Supreme sweatshirt. Everything is limited edition and the actual product probably cost them $10 to make but they're charging the consumer $200.

[@UltraAlex2000]

I am not buying a single mice with holes on it, and I love videogames as any other folk. But I don’t believe for a hot second that “gAMeRs” have so little muscle mass that they cannot handle a mouse that weighs >100g. Companies have been making these shells for cost saving, and they advertise them as “lightweight”. Like any wired mouse is so much heavier it completely messes up your game.

[@peterw1534]

I know it's subjective but those are ugly af

[@RaymondLinWasTaken]

Oh no… Bad hair + earrings, David without the beard is so similar to pre-quarantine Linus

[@sercasti]

200 usd for that crappy mouse is insane, hard pass

[@TheYazukaa]

David did a top job hosting this one, he seems a lot more comfortable now then the first video he did

[@BetterCallPablo]

I love David's vids

[@reginalb124]

"Beautiful" I don't think that word means what you think it means...

[@xXDarthBagginsXx]

Picked up a GPro Superlight a bit over a year ago, love FM mice as that's what I moved from to the SuperLight since I wanted to move to wireless. For the pricing and availability, I plan to stick with Logitech mice. I also play at 750-800 DPi depending on the title - I don't see a need for a top mounted DPi button ever since Logi launched the OnBoard Memory Manager that isn't as bloated compared to other tools, also it doesn't have to remain running in the background eating up resources. I don't see why FM hasn't come up with a non-bloat tool of their own similar to the Logi one.

[@ghosttheoremproductions5469]

I never understood the love for lightweight mice. I want a weighted mouse every single time.

[@lovelylemonfactory]

yes

[@iugk]

Absolutely.

[@haydn6462]

For first person shooters, the lighter the better, assuming the shape fits your hand well. Do you play on freakishly high sensitivity or something?

[@chrisbenn]

I dislike Finalmouse for good reason! They lied to me when I mailed with there customer support! So I know how they really are.

[@Finite-Tuning]

This title sucks! Why do you guys keep doing this? Whomever you hired that keeps doing these meaningless titles should be scolded at the very least..... Otherwise, cheers ya'll 🍻

[@tsbulmer]

A fun review of a product I can't even begin to care about.

[@ThisIsNotJP]

I'll be honest the only reason I bought this was for the weight... switched the feet and had to add grips

[@MrSheathknight]

david looks great here! hopefully it's not by unhealthy means, but you glow here!

[@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel]

Boy, this looks like the designer of this mouse chugged a bucket of monster before creating this abomination. 🤮🤮

[@3xplosiv0]

I really do love everything about my Starlight Phantom Medium but ultimately I think I'm going to sell it because it's simply just not the right shape for me. Also the holes on the sides really hurt the comfort (I put corepad grips on it and that hugely improved it). Don't be fooled, the medium is still a very small mouse. The small is basically a fingertip-only mouse unless you have Linus hands.

[@Dorraj]

This brand seems like the FOMO masters. People are eating this up because they have limited garbage. Predictable.

[@alex549806]

I’ve had 3 final mice break on me within months of having them. Their marketing is cringe at best and lies at worst and the product itself is not worth the price at all. Switched to a glorious model 0 and it has served me much better over 3 years and even survived a big water spillage. Do not bother with final at all costs!

[@grumpysteelman]

You didn’t learn after 2? 😂 please tell me they were warrantied at least.

[@alex549806]

@@grumpysteelman in all fairness the first one I thought was a one off as that was their first product. And I did manage to RMA the last two even if it was a bit of a struggle. It wasn't so much as "Didn't learn" it was more unfortunate optimism on my part.

[@grumpysteelman]

@@alex549806 - Two RMAs actually means you were just trying to get your money’s worth out of the original purchase. Fair play to you, in that case. My comment sounded a little harsher than it was intended on re-reading it. Sorry about that.

[@alex549806]

No problem bro thanks for clarifying. Have a nice day

[@shawndiaz7528]

Isn't Glorious known for their poor QA and build quality?

[@lucas_vlanc]

personally, i love the look and design of it, but honeycomb top mice aren't the way to go IMO and finalmouse is just a shytty company all together I'm fine with the bottom having a honeycomb design, don't know why its taking companies so long to make a solid top but honeycomb bottom wireless type c mice with hotswap switches (hopefully) and dock

[@beejaybeej]

I love my finalmouse but I can agree that their customer service isn't the best. Other than that, I'd recommend it if you can get it for retail price

[@ReefMimic]

They look like they’re made to be easily cleaned under a cold tap, especially after rubbing one out

[@yourbrojohno]

For those of you interested in something like this for a fraction of the cost, the xenics titan g air can be had for a reasonable price. Additionally, the korean department store E-mart traders was selling them half off for only ~$32.

[@HunterRodrigez]

These look like the Ed Hardy shirts of gaming mice... and I mean that in the most insulting way possible

[@franciscoantonio-ig9uj]

would be nice if you guys could get the upcoming XM1r wireless from endgame gear when it comes out man

[@mattle3]

Was the model o wireless not mentioned??

[@mattle3]

@HOT. NEGIN wow I will most definitely part take in this activity!

[@MrHawky-sc6lo]

The bottom is not magnesium and acts as an antenna for the wireless that's why bottom is flimsy