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@RexcorJ8 ай бұрын
Worst doesn't necessarily mean bad. In my eyes, it does stand out a lot for good and bad reasons. The smaller roster disappoints me, but I love the character designs, the stage themes, and the serious storylines. Even has my favorite narrator tbh. Like the flipside of SF3 3rd Strike's hip hop influenced annnouncer. T4 takes some getting used to, but it's worth it and deserves plenty of love.
@Samaelx.8 ай бұрын
No it doesn't. Worse tekken
@Appi948 ай бұрын
Actually Tekken 4 is my favorite; maybe a childhood bias, but the points you made resume pretty much why I like it (even the story makes more sense than the sequels, aka random demon spawns to bring sh**t, and focuses on the Mishima Family like in the 7 chapter)
@shawklan278 ай бұрын
The atmosphere is just perfect
@GuileTGTV8 ай бұрын
dude it is the first time we had destructive elements in the stages ! it was awesome for that !
@Taiwainui-qw3xb8 ай бұрын
@@Samaelx.No its not its better than 1 and 2 gameplay wise and did better sales then tekken tag its not the worse yall over hate because it came after Tekken 3 arguably the best Tekken to date release wise.
@larrytod97908 ай бұрын
The last tekken where Paul was taken seriously
@TheRealAhoy8 ай бұрын
This was my favourite version of Paul considerably
@brandonsolomon64858 ай бұрын
Preach.
@daymonharris86968 ай бұрын
Best Paul design
@chrisgonzalez58838 ай бұрын
So true both he and law have been treated horribly after 4.
@kennyg.66088 ай бұрын
Two player mode was the worse competitively. But single player was and still is loads of fun and interesting on the hardest difficulty
@myriadmediamusings8 ай бұрын
There’s just something about the atmosphere of Tekken 4 that hasn’t been matched since then. It’s also the last game I think could be taken semi-seriously before things went over the top in Tekken 5. This was also the first game where I really paid attention to the lore and so looking back, I can imagine how huge it was that Kazuya was alive all along since Tekken 2.
@Marko-ij4vy8 ай бұрын
Atmosphere wise it was amazing. And I loved the more serious semi realistic tone before it turned into over the top anime style sht in the next games. But gameplay wise it was rough. I hated that up and down was side step instead of crouch/jump and grap moves would just push someone away. Also lack of characters and only 2 costumes per character even though tekken tag that came before already had 4 costumes per character.
@meganinten00788 ай бұрын
Tekken fans don't realize that a big part of Tekken's identity is being over the top and silly. That is why I like about Tekken. It embraces silliness.
@SlimPug8 ай бұрын
over the top?, Tekken 5?, bro They had a boxing kangaroo, a raptor, a Pinocchio, and giant bears in Tekken tag. 😅
@antoniobanderas53168 ай бұрын
Absolutely true! This is where Jin felt real. So did the story. All other stories were weird.
@Serandi19878 ай бұрын
Yeah! That's like my thoughts about Tekken 4 always has been😮❤
@Jet-BlackDragoon8 ай бұрын
its funny how this game tried to be more realistic while its also the game where Kazuya came back after *being thrown into a volcano 20 years ago*
@dixienormus28028 ай бұрын
Worst gameplay? Sure. But that style, presentation and story always keeps me coming back for Tekken 4
@NorbertoRivera-mm2qn8 ай бұрын
Not at all, the gameplay was top tier
@neonthunder32618 ай бұрын
@@NorbertoRivera-mm2qn Actually. Tekken 4 hate train is just by people who can't appreciate it. Took the series in a new direction with some gorgeous (and fun) stages and while its balancing was horrendous, IMO its the best Tekken
@tmifb99268 ай бұрын
I don't agree with worse gameplay. Just because it's unbalanced doesn't mean it's still not fun to play.
@imarock.76628 ай бұрын
I mean...style and presentation can only do so much when the gameplay is bad.
@antoniobanderas53168 ай бұрын
In all of these categories I believe it still rains as the king. It was different and innovative.
@tonware8 ай бұрын
Love seeing the T4 appreciation throughout the comments. It’s my favorite Tekken. The gameplay may not be up the standard for the hardcore fans, but the presentation and overall vibe of the game is a sight to behold. Also that soundtrack is amazing.
@sunnymane8 ай бұрын
Yup! I was hoping Max would’ve hyped it up more but the comments did not disappoint lol
@alastormedial7 ай бұрын
Inner Sanctum the track for the Hon Maru stage is up there with Ground Zero Funk for my fav Tekken track.
@GamingWithNLGamer8 ай бұрын
Might be the black sheep, but the game got a cool kinda dark atmosphere and I loved the Arcade Story mode. This was the first time I really felt invested in the fighters stories and wanted to play them all. Plus yoshimitsu tekken 4 design was the goat!
@meganinten00788 ай бұрын
Tekken 4 would have been better received if it had been its own franchise or a spin off.
@ssttpy8 ай бұрын
yeah tekken 3 and 4 were the first games i completed. watching all the endings was awesome as a kid.
@taftmh8 ай бұрын
I’ll defend Tekken 4 till the day I die. Yeah some stages being uneven which in turn affected certain moves wasn’t the best idea, but the atmosphere, soundtrack and overall tone of this game still stands out to me 22 years later after playing on ps2. And that intro still rules.
@ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.97778 ай бұрын
"ITS KAZUYA! Drop your guns! use your techno karate!"
@Masterdericobr8 ай бұрын
Totally agree!
@Godlike-878 ай бұрын
@@ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777would you want to be the guy responsible for shooting your bosses Son after 20 years of him being reported missing?
@anonymous-one8 ай бұрын
the uneven stages seem more "realistic". In the real world, not everywhere you go is perfectly flat with the same amount of walls and shit. if FGC people wanted balanced stages they should have just played in the most balanced stage only for competitions.
@ALIEN-_-28 ай бұрын
Tekken 4 will forever be my fav Tekken ,no matter the hate it gets it will always hold that special place
@elegy81878 ай бұрын
One thing I love about Tekken 4 is how the stages feel like they could be real places. Sure, the uneven terrain and obstacles you can hide behind make for terrible gameplay, but they really make the world come alive. While the stages in the new games have great graphics, you can tell that they still look like video game fighting arenas.
@prettyboyg12787 ай бұрын
This. As If two fighters randomly met in real places, starting to brawl it out. There was just something special about it. Almost gave the game some WWE or even Def Jam FFN type of feeling, mainly in a good way. Made the atmosphere grittier and fights felt more diverse, since these stages would influence the outcome in many different ways. I kinda miss that, since the current stage designs feel a bit too samey imo and only differentiate each other through their skyboxes.
@omegaweapon1165 ай бұрын
I'm all for it. Fighting in a mall, parking lot, downtown, airport...it's just fun.
@axo43838 ай бұрын
Last game where Paul was taken seriously. After this we have Paul with Aliens and Diarrhea.
@WithAnimeInLove8 ай бұрын
💀
@timberteeks8 ай бұрын
THANK you, his ending and Bryans were amazing, such a shame
@chamber20projects8 ай бұрын
Paul in Tekken 3 was just my fucking boy. he always looks kind of goofy now.
@CYB3R2K8 ай бұрын
Only game* Seriously what's up with the revisionist here? Paul has always been Goofy having a beef with a bear since tekken 1 with funny endings.
@joshpaul64178 ай бұрын
pauls ending and kings was top tier
@Swagkia_Kuchiki8 ай бұрын
The last Tekken game with a great story, dark atmosphere, innovative graphics, character development etc. This game felt like a good time skip happened and the characters matured. - Paul was a badass biker that got his revelation arc and not a joke character. - Jin defeated the mishima family for good and learned to accept his mishima bloodline. - Law opened his successful business dojo after trying to maintain his restaurant business which went down. - King avenged his masters death and learned revenge is not the solution seeing Marducks family picture. - Nina and Steve learning about their past and coming to terms with them. They both save each other and left room for potential growth. This does get destroyed in later Tekken games sadly. - Hworang and Jin made a promise to each other and got mutual respect.
@stareater18708 ай бұрын
The menu, the dark presentation, and the announcer all gripped me as a kid and made this feel like a life and death ordeal. Was so serious and everything had such a high stakes feel to it in a way. Was my intro to the series and I believe probably my 1st fighting game. The intro alone made me want to check out Tekken 3 to see what happened to Kazuya (I I didn't know that was T2 events at the time). The cool cover with Jin, plus how he was presented, with the tattoos and being part Devil or Demon or whatever intrigued me so much, and plus he had a J name and just looked cool as hell. He's still my main, despite me still not being very good all these years later, lmaooooooo. Love this game. Best in the series for me. Maybe 8 will pass it, I'm hoping, but I don't think it'll have the darker tone, presentation, and atmosphere that I prefer, and the absolutely immaculate VIBES.
@e1m1378 ай бұрын
4 is underrated, I was really hoping 8 would be a return to form and less of this anime retcon esports bait
@stareater18708 ай бұрын
@@e1m137 That's why I figured 8 wouldn't pass it. It's got a nice "big" feel to it and good presentation for something grandiose. I like action and big set pieces, but I just prefer darker, more intimate, grittier things. Smaller isolated events.
@lightsamus928 ай бұрын
Hope I'm wrong but I don't think Namco will ever make another main Tekken game that dark and gritty again. The bad sales of T4 probably led them to believe that it wasn't what the fans wanted, hence the complete vibe change since T5. I will always love T4 because of how audacious and different it was, even tho I can't deny that, gameplay-wise, it was unbalanced and not ideal for competitive fights. Also, I think this type of atmosphere were more trendy during the beginning of 00s than now
@Scythr2s8 ай бұрын
Tekken 4 was a good game, but the one thing that saddens me is it’s the last serious ending you get from playing as Paul.
@oc38918 ай бұрын
It's the last "serious" game in the series imo. The atmosphere and ambient music choices are unmatched since. Much more grounded as a game while still having a bit of it's anime silliness you'd expect from the series.
@tylerbertram70658 ай бұрын
The GTA 4 of Tekken games
@slowmercy698 ай бұрын
I'm gonna say this everywhere!@@tylerbertram7065
@JaKeYbOyS958 ай бұрын
As much as I love Paul "bring it on ya aliens" Phoenix, I do have to admit that I was hoping for a more serious direction for him following that T4 ending.
@leithaziz27168 ай бұрын
FYI, the best balance is a mix between seriousness and some catharsis. One of my favorite franchises, Yakuza, does both. So I'm not against the goofyness of stuff like the Bears or the sheep stage in Tekken 6. It's just that some characters who started out as very serious didn't really "transition" well into later Tekkens without losing some depth and personality. Paul after Tekken 4 is unfortunately not much beyond a funny punching-bag, Eddy's arc is just "stuck" since he can't kill the main character, and Jin's characterisation has sadly been a mess from T5 and onwards (which bums me out more because his ending in T4 is arguably the best one in the series).
@ShinRyojin8 ай бұрын
Tekken 4 represents the lore at its absolute peak. It’s dark presentation helped tell it’s theme of redemption. Kazuya making his grand return to the main series after being resurrected. Jin recovering from nearly being killed by Heihachi, disowning the Mishima lineage, and learning a new fighting style. Paul fighting to restore honor and legitimacy to his name after his win was null and void. Marshall Law returning and getting back into fighting shape after dealing with depression. Marduk returning to the ring after his release from prison. Bryan becoming his own person after being abandoned by Dr. Abel. Hwoarang’s fighting spirit reignited after being drafted into the South Korean Army left him feeling empty and having a quarter life crisis. Yoshimitsu fighting to save his clan from extinction and restoring honor. Nina coming to grips with her past. Lei dealing with his career setbacks, his girlfriend leaving him and setting out to solve a major case that will restore his reputation and help his career. The characters have stories and established goals that give them a lot of depth and you can root for all of these characters since people love a good redemption story.
@kumorizora25078 ай бұрын
I like to imagine a world where this game had tekken 5's gameplay and popularity. Allowing this games amazing atmosphere and tone to carry on throughout the rest of the series.
@vandersonjunior80187 ай бұрын
I don't think Tekken would be as popular though
@RandomBlackGamer8 ай бұрын
The thing that hurt this game is the fact that it came off of the heels of Tekken Tag 1. Which many considered a major downgrade. The roster was noticably smaller and the moves feel stiffer. It took some getting use to but I have fund memories of this game.
@anonluxor4708 ай бұрын
I never considered Tekken 4 to be a downgrade and I've played both this and Tekken tag 1
@wsibradio83048 ай бұрын
tekken 4 felt more darker than others games imo
@sunnymane8 ай бұрын
@@anonluxor470thank you! I just played both 😂 Tag felt like and upgraded 3. 4 felt like the future
@songoku93488 ай бұрын
Loved Tekken 4. The ost was some of the best music of the series to date, mob being my favourite along with Hon Maru stage
@CloudWithoutASky8 ай бұрын
Dude I haven't even played the game and heard the OST and it's godlike. It's like on some JRPG level kinda shit
@21Cayque128 ай бұрын
I love the character select screen. Just a buzzing droning guitar and some dude talking actually sounds badass
@meganinten00788 ай бұрын
As a fan of atmospheric music in fighting games, Tekken 4 soundtrack is the King! 🎵 (Tekken 2 OST comes very close) I love all the tracks in T4 It really gives you a cyberpunk electric vibe.
@InfinityVenom8 ай бұрын
Touch and Go is the goat 🔥🔥🔥
@majorpaine898 ай бұрын
I could listen to Authentic Sky on repeat, especially when the drums kick in.
@timhorsburgh21938 ай бұрын
Ofc they had to change jin's playstyle. He was just a lesser copy of Kazuya. Once they corrected the mistake of trying to replace Kazuya, they had to try and give Jin his own style. Related, bringing back Kazuya (in that awesome intro no less) will always make T4 one of the best in the series.
@OmegaBlackHeart8 ай бұрын
I also appreciated the realistic way they implemented that change into the story, self hatred which is pretty depressing and made worse when it's possible Jin was going to commit suicide after killing both Heihachi and Kazuya. Tekken 4 was really on the ball with its writing, and characters.
@baines8038 ай бұрын
The game that got me into tekken so im biased when i say tekken 4 is good. Jin looked mad cool and i loved the arcade endings with him kazuya and heihachi
@Lucaribrix8 ай бұрын
I’m 100% behind you on this!! This game was the reason why I became a Tekken head
@SpyderBlackOfficial8 ай бұрын
Yes sirrrrrr
@bandawin188 ай бұрын
This was also my first, fuckin loved it and was kinda disappointed when I found out that the rest of the series wasn't nearly as cool and dark
@KzPrime8 ай бұрын
It blew me away when I was younger that all 3 of their endings was a continuing story
@Samaelx.8 ай бұрын
Deluded
@wondersuave8 ай бұрын
9:48 Props to the editor, that was fucking hilarious. I've been playing Tekken 4 for the past few days, so it really hit different
@16.chapel8 ай бұрын
Dude I immediately burst out laughing at that shit😂
@konkaiwa5157 ай бұрын
imagining the T4 narrator saying "Alright so...this guy got drunk" with the music in the background is hilarious
@its_krad26528 ай бұрын
The destructible environments and unique stages really makes tekken 4 stand out alot in my eyes. The game itself was just plain fun as well...oh and pauls design 👌
@lurtz86568 ай бұрын
Paul Cobain is the best Paul
@its_krad26528 ай бұрын
Can't argue with ya there@@lurtz8656
@gorofujita57678 ай бұрын
07:58 >"But, like the game was so dominated by poking... by like just jabs and stuff like that" YES, and that's what made the fights so tense and visceral. You really had to work for your juggles (which btw, are extremely irrealistic) so whenever you managed to pull a 4 hit air combo, it really felt like a huge achievement. Also, the fact all characters felt heavier added to the visceral feeling of hitting and launching them; like your character was really exerting him/herself to the max. The fact you couldn't just really on "press X to launch enemy to the air with a simple slap" added a layer of tangibility to the combat that just made you feel much more immersed and invested in the game
@brayenmorrison31998 ай бұрын
First...... The Black Sheep of Tekken. That actually had a good atmospheric setting.
@CloudWithoutASky8 ай бұрын
Tekken 4 ost completely FUCKS
@BushinRyuCat8 ай бұрын
Yeaaaaaah... But c'mon~that *Cinematic Opening* 😅
@meganinten00788 ай бұрын
As much as I love the atmosphere of Tekken 4...I think I find the reason why it is the black sheep of the franchise. Because it tried to be something that Tekken never was. Many fans forget that Tekken has never been a very serious and dark franchise. It always has silly and goofy stuff in its DNA. In a way, Tekken 4 feels like a game in the early 2000s When games wanted to be darker, serious, gritty, edgy, etc. That is not Tekken.
@suiken31498 ай бұрын
@@meganinten0078 The silly and goofy stuff are reserved for few side characters, not the chunk of the entire roster. Don't confuse the devil lore being "silly" just because the newer Tekken games presented it as such
@schillville7 ай бұрын
@@meganinten0078 Tekken 1 and 2 were not goofy, Tekken 3 was a bit more light-hearted, but that's it. I don't know why people keep repeating this. The animals are a comic relief always present in the series, but outside them, all characters have purposes.
@dropout8188 ай бұрын
I laughed loudly when I Max impersonated the narrator 😂
@r3bel3838 ай бұрын
This game man.... First saw it at a Blockbuster and was unavailable for hire. The majority of the time I wanted to play the game it was unavailable, but when I finally got to play it. My god, it was such a rush, it was the first game that videogames with the correct music and stage creates a atmosphere. I will always have a soft spot for this game, cause it was the one to play very rarely.
@archivalhorror8 ай бұрын
The comments are full of Tekken 4 love. 'Backlash' is massively overstated. You are the majority.
@SwordSaint8928 ай бұрын
One weird, minor thing that I REALLY loved in Tekken 4 was the interaction between Jin and Hwoarang. In a somewhat realistic manner, they speak to each other in (slightly broken) English, which is sometimes a more likely shared language between the two. They drop this idea later on and just have Heihachi and Nina talking to each other in their own languages (Heihachi in Japanese and Nina in English) and just let us pretend that's how the conversation would go, but it could've been a much nicer touch to have Nina speak simple Japanese so she could communicate realistically or something. Having the characters mostly speak their native language is such a cool touch in Tekken for combat, but in the conversations in story scenes, it's so cool to see more realistic communication between characters.
@DominicSnyder8 ай бұрын
The problem with their interactions in this game is that Hwoarang is voiced by someone with a distinctly American-sounding accent (and a lack of acting talent.) He doesn't sound like a Korean guy speaking in slightly broken English. Because of this, he ends up sounding completely out of place, and it's one of the things that breaks the otherwise uniformly cool presentation of Tekken 4. I much prefer the decision to have everyone speak in their native language (voiced by competent actors) and assume that you gotta be somewhat multilingual to make your way through a King of the Iron Fist tournament.
@SwordSaint8928 ай бұрын
@@DominicSnyder I agree that Hwoarang's English is unnaturally American, but you're essentially contradicting yourself with that last statement. If someone like Nina, who probably SHOULD be multi-lingual, is talking to Heihachi, why in the world would she speak in English?
@harvestcheddar08 ай бұрын
9:50 The way the music builds until it gets so loud you can barely hear the voice is spot on lmao
@yep86738 ай бұрын
Authentic Sky playing with you fighting on a skyscraper at night is such a vibe. T4 has such a different mood in comparison to T3 and Tag 1 that it feels almost like an alternate universe version of Tekken.
@omegaweapon1165 ай бұрын
I feel the same way in TTT1 when you're fighting on Ogre's stage with that remixed PS2 track. You can see it snowing in the distance through the door. Love that stage
@Swagkia_Kuchiki8 ай бұрын
The last Tekken game with a great story, dark atmosphere, innovative graphics, character development etc. This game felt like a good time skip happened and the characters matured. - Paul was a badass biker that got his revelation arc and not a joke character. - Jin defeated the mishima family for good and learned to accept his mishima bloodline. - Law opened his successful business dojo after trying to maintain his restaurant business which went down. - King avenged his masters death and learned revenge is not the solution seeing Marducks family picture. - Nina and Steve learning about their past and coming to terms with them. They both save each other and left room for potential growth. This does get destroyed in later Tekken games sadly. - Hworang and Jin made a promise to each other and got mutual respect. Tekken 5 had some good storylines but ultimately is where the series started to show signs of poor quality. Asuka for example was able to purify the devil gene and was supposed to be helping Jin as was Jun doing. That entire story got scrapped... The rest of the Tekken games are just terrible and sadly the new casual fans will mindlessly praise whatever Harada does. Just look at the Tekken 8 comments.
@meganinten00788 ай бұрын
Tekken 4 would have been better received if it had been its own franchise or a spin off. Tekken 4 is not a bad game but it doesn't work as mainline Tekken game.
@harvestcheddar08 ай бұрын
Tekken 4 is my favorite in the franchise and my first tekken game. I also am really into tekken 8. It feels like things are actually progressing again instead of the God awful stagnation we’ve had for all these games in between.
@Wolfedge758 ай бұрын
Funny how Tekken 7 was, in various ways the opposite of 4: Great gameplay but at the crippling cost of writing. Non-Mishimas are just straight-up afterthoughts and while they certainly didn’t sugarcoat things the story for the side characters was practically minimal. The bar was so low, in fact, that wherever the plot goes for T8 is gonna be impressive no matter what actually occurs.
@user-tr1ui4fx1g8 ай бұрын
@@Wolfedge75im so genuinely excited for tekken 8
@wood10668 ай бұрын
Tekken 4 easily has the best atmosphere, music, and story. After that they went to far into anime territory.
@camiamproducer8 ай бұрын
Nah, in terms of the OST, T3/TTT1 had the best soundtracks
@briandrumgold6428 ай бұрын
Tekken 4 is a guilty pleasure and I love the music from the stages to the backstory and after you beat the game.
@wood10668 ай бұрын
@briandrumgold642 it's not guilty for me, lol. T5 is a better fighting game, but I don't remember a thing about it along with T6. T4, for me, will always be the most memorable game in the series.
@Samaelx.8 ай бұрын
Cap 🤡
@marlonmontelhiggins85708 ай бұрын
@@Samaelx. - Yeah, just because you don't agree, it's cap. Ever heard of "Different strokes for different folks"?
@shaideyfresh18 ай бұрын
I liked how everyone spoke english and aome had accents, instead of speaking in a totally different languages but understand each other
@Lastjustice8 ай бұрын
Namco done the everyone speaks their own language across games like Soul Edge but understand each other, then everyone speaks english in the next game. They're very inconsistent with this.
@sunnymane8 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s more similar to Overwatch and it’s honestly preferable
@omegadeepblue14077 ай бұрын
Pos a mi si me gusto
@xOmniCloudx8 ай бұрын
Everything about this game not gameplay related is among the best of the franchise.
@TheRealAhoy8 ай бұрын
Airplane stage music is one of the best in the series
@AtomicPineapple237 ай бұрын
@@TheRealAhoyairport, parking lot, rooftops, beach. So many bangers
@kdknight12978 ай бұрын
Worst nothing. As a hardcore Tekken fan who doubles as a filthy casual, this is imo the second best Tekken game. The character stories are *chef’s kiss* by Tekken standards, the soundtrack is top notch, presentation is beautiful, good overall amount of content, good roster with Kazuya and Lee’s glorious returns to the main series and I don’t care how broken the gameplay apparently is, I still love it.
@CYB3R2K8 ай бұрын
Dude, there's a reason they NEVER returned to this style.
@kdknight12978 ай бұрын
@@CYB3R2K and fair enough because the style we have now for Tekken is working out nicely ^_^
@SlyBeast8 ай бұрын
Interesting to hear this about Tekken 4. I was very involved in the Tekken scene locally at the time and we were all over the moon for it. Very fond memories of just standing in the arcade for hours discussing new things we discovered, strats, matches, etc. T5 blows it away, no doubt, but a real soft spot in my heart for T4.
@PhiDX8 ай бұрын
Tekken 4 reminds me so much of Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Absolute banger in aesthetic, atmosphere, and effort to modernize. Huge whiffs in gameplay and game feel. I was a kid and had little sense of game feel, so Tekken 4 was a total hit for me just like Brawl was. Only now do I imagine how cool it could've been with both vibes and gameplay nailed down
@Nigel2228 ай бұрын
The tone and atmosphere in this game was the peak of the series. I hate the silly direction they went in with later games.
@meganinten00788 ай бұрын
But Tekken has always been silly and over the top since the first game. It is part of its identity
@HellecticMojo8 ай бұрын
@@meganinten0078 it's kinda gotten bad to the point where you wonder if everyone has brain damage from all the fighting. Paul probably gets the worst.
@Deemo2028 ай бұрын
@@HellecticMojomain storyline has gotten darker though 😂. Growing up I never thought Heihachi would actually get killed. Or that Jin would decide to start an entire world war.
@kumorizora25078 ай бұрын
@@meganinten0078I don't understand this logic. Just because other games have been silly I'm supposed to be ok with that and can't wish for a more serious and gritty tone?
@suiken31498 ай бұрын
@@meganinten0078 How many characters in the first game have "silly" endings? Honest answer
@eddebrock8 ай бұрын
Tekken 4 was the pinnacle of Tekken!
@onlygoodgamesofficial8 ай бұрын
Exactly, these people don't understand. Just bad takes so it's fine they can think whatever 😂
@jinpei058 ай бұрын
The black sheep of the Tekken lineage. While it's not fondly remembered, it did make some ballsy innovations that I do respect, like uneven terrains, smaller walled arenas, and destructible environments.
@GRA2itous8 ай бұрын
Not fondly remembered? It’s literally still my favorite Tekken.
@slowmercy698 ай бұрын
@@GRA2itousI love T4 the most, but I'm a casual. From a competitive, professional, the way Tekken is meant to be played perspective, T4 sucks
@jinpei058 ай бұрын
@@GRA2itous you are not the entire community
@GRA2itous8 ай бұрын
@@jinpei05 Never claimed to be
@jinpei058 ай бұрын
@@GRA2itous then don't use personal annecdotal evidence to speak for the majority of Tekken players who agree it's not fondly remembered.
@anywayjae8 ай бұрын
The part at 9:50 was golden
@MetaliBlack6668 ай бұрын
Tekken 4’s atmosphere, and overall vibe just hits so different. I can’t help but have a soft spot for it.
@anonluxor4708 ай бұрын
Tekken 4 is the first Tekken game I've ever played i still think it's the best. I love the stages it makes it feel like actual street fights are happening
@SlickRick4EVER8 ай бұрын
LOL…. You definitely should have started in the first one…. THEN played Tekken 3/Tag Tournament…
@anonluxor4708 ай бұрын
@@SlickRick4EVER I didn't play those until Tekken 5
@lordzhuge8 ай бұрын
The intertwined story modes of Heihachi, Kazuya and Jin will always be my favourite fighting game story modes, especially Jin's
@JennyTheNerdBat8 ай бұрын
9:45 It's not "whatever reason" - the tank-battling dude is a bricklayer who worked three days without a salary, so he got hungry and stole a bread from the stall, while security forces tried to arrest him for such display of thievery.
@Mimz6708 ай бұрын
I always use T4 as the "breath of fresh air" addition to the series. EVERYTHING was different and as a casual player back then I loved it. Everyone has a new look, the stages are interesting with slopes and pillars and stuff. The story for each character was the most in depth of the entire series. In my book T4 was top
@chadmcdeadlift67927 ай бұрын
Tekken 4's uneven levels, varied arena's, interactive objects, more realistic level design, more methodical movement, soundtrack and roster honestly makes it my second favorite favorite outside of 8 now this it's out. And this is coming from someone that's played it from the first game in arcades.
@Legoshi_X_Jack8 ай бұрын
As somebody who played T4 first this sums up the whole game pretty well 9:49
@Sebastian_Kaito8 ай бұрын
VISUALS . That airport stage.. so beautiful
@MewinMoose8 ай бұрын
First and favourite Tekken. I much prefer the cooler realistic tone and the subtle ambient osts.
@hiromitsukanzuki91378 ай бұрын
To be honest... Tekken 4 deserved its own DR. Imagine if Tekken 4 was the foundation of every Tekken going forward instead of over the top T5? We would have better stages making you feel like your in a real life location, better story/lore, and better new origin characters. Because their stories wouldve been taken seriously. God I love and miss Tekken 4.
@rockroc18 ай бұрын
Tekken 4 still sits on top as my favorite Tekken. The Atmosphere, Story, Gameplay, and Music, top notch!
@PartyUpGaming928 ай бұрын
I actually liked that Tekken 4 tried something new and darker. It actually tried new things that helped develop Tekken 5
@raphaelcabrera69108 ай бұрын
Tekken 4 started the wall...and graphic went up drastically.
@silassequeiraa53217 ай бұрын
I remember being a kid and just exploring the mall, airport and the beach to see the limits and how character would interact, or like "Are they going to drown ?" or "Can they get inside the store", like the stages were so good that they made me more exited for playing tekken 4 rather than tekken 5 and I played a lot of tekken 5
@Unbearable_Truth8 ай бұрын
Tekken 4 is definitely better than Tekken 6, 7, 2 and 1. Last Tekken game with a good serious story and character development.
@Blitz05068 ай бұрын
Tekken 4 was pretty good from a casual perspective They attempted to steer the story into somewhat something grounded that makes sense, the stages were interesting like that fight pit where instead of walls outsiders would shove you back into the fight, the mall with wierd elevation and hand rails obstructing the center of the stage but absolutely werent competitively viable the octagon arena for example where lee could just infinite you and mist step shove you into every inch of the arena until you died and of course it had tekken force
@meganinten00788 ай бұрын
In a way, Tekken 4 represents how gaming was in the early 2000s The dystopian cyberpunk vibes and aesthetic, plus how companies at that time wanted games to be darker, edgy, serious, etc. I love the atmosphere of Tekken 4 but I admit that it doesn't fit Tekken. T4 tried to be something that the Tekken franchise never was. Let's face it, Tekken is not a serious drama like some people think. Much of the essence of Tekken has always been embracing silliness. Edit: Tekken 4 would have been better received if it had been a spin off or a new franchise
@murilloironman8 ай бұрын
Jin’s Ending in Tekken 4 was incredible at the time this game came out. Fighting Kazuya and Heihachi in Hon Maru with that amazing OST still gives me goosebumps to this day!
@leithaziz27168 ай бұрын
Still the best Tekken ending to this day in terms of writing.
@isthatsupposedtobeadog89018 ай бұрын
"The ending clips are weird and goofy idk why" Cuts to a clip of Max talking over a completely serious clip and making fun of an asian man's accent
@jailoon29208 ай бұрын
the impact of doa2 on console gaming I think impacted this Tekken specifically. Introduction of walls and unequal stage leveling, emphasis on visuals and realism were all very DOA-esque changes
@InevitableKing8 ай бұрын
That was super funny how you explained tekken4 story 9:49min. Sooo true😂
@chazzhenderson747317 күн бұрын
Made me die laughing frl
@BlackKusanagi8 ай бұрын
Shinjuku (Bit Crusher is goated). The aura. Soundtrack. The story. I do feel I was in the minority of those who enjoyed this thouroughly. But storywise this being the beginning of the blitz of stories after the 2 year timeskip and Kazuya'a ascent... its still one of my favorites in my book. I do greatly appreciate Max's points in this though.
@sacredgear7 ай бұрын
I actually liked this game. This was the game the got me into Tekken. I casually played Tag but this game got me interested in the lore and actually learning to get good.
@Ilias24.7 ай бұрын
Same!!
@El-Burrito8 ай бұрын
Is it the most innovative Tekken?
@MaximumObesity8 ай бұрын
Tekken 4's atmosphere, style, and presentation were truly different and not a lot of fighting games can match that. It's a shame the rest of the series doesn't have the same tone and can't quite recreate it
@prettyboyg12787 ай бұрын
They really should go back to that urban street brawler atmosphere, instead of that flashy and over the top neon Anime vibe. Tekken 4 had the perfect balance in tone.
@ИльяМаляр-л3в8 ай бұрын
I always loved Tekken 4. And this is with minding the fact that Tag 1 was my first Tekken. I enjoyed walls on stages, I enjoyed characters, as a Jin main I enjoyed his rework, I was bad at english to understand the lore, but I liked the atmosphere
@brysolationTV8 ай бұрын
The altered voice work for 9:48 is some real king shit.
@chaosmorris58657 ай бұрын
I guess what I want and what the wider Tekken fan base wants are two different things because my favorite Tekken Games are 4 and Tekken Tag 2 both of which are apparently reviled.
@e1m1378 ай бұрын
I miss the grounded feeling of Tekken 4, much more memorable than 6 and 7 which kind of blur together for me
@LRM51958 ай бұрын
6 is just bad imo
@superbaconish8 ай бұрын
Tekken 4 is so Y2K it’s insane
@jammin25752 ай бұрын
Naaahhh Tekken Tag Tournament is THE Y2K feeling game.
@lilnuke338 ай бұрын
Whatchu mean worse?
@kamenrangerzeo82518 ай бұрын
15:19 Max: “Where was our Tekken 3 sequel?” Namco: “Allow us to present to you Tekken 5!”
@PlayPersona38 ай бұрын
Tekken 4 does not deserve the treatment it gets. A fantastic game
@ArcienPlaysGames8 ай бұрын
Much like what most people are saying, the game reeked of atmosphere, and that's what made it stand out. Gameplay was slow and clunky, stages were unbalanced (some stages were slanted, and you could do infinite combos up against the pillars in stages like the parking lot if you set everything up), Jin had a broken laser scraper, etc. But the visuals, the stage settings, the stories and the music was absolutely unreal. It gave Tekken 4 such a unique feeling that future games in the series - while amazing - haven't been able to replicate. And yeah, they actually gave Paul one of the best arcade stories in the entire Tekken series (although Wang's T5 story still takes it for me though). Wish they'd go back to that instead of making him a comedy character. Fighting in stages like the airport, the slanted surface on the top of a skyscraper, and in Hon-Maru which ended up being a core point of Tekken 5, were some of the experiences that have been burned into my retinas. Tekken 4 was also the game where experimentation happened, which has given us walled stages in every future installment. 4 walked so that 5 could run. So while the gameplay was bad, it still had S-tier music, S-tier stories and S-tier atmosphere. It's far from the worst game in the series in my opinion for those reasons alone. Most importantly, even if it didn't play well, the game is still *fun*
@CaptainCJ978 ай бұрын
I just remember as kid thinking how cool jins jacket,the intro, & Atmosphere is
@qorpse8 ай бұрын
My first PS2 game ever. It'll always hold a special place in my heart. Plus the soundtrack and presentation were phenomenal.
@disins55218 ай бұрын
Respectfully appreciate this mini series, but this is by far the least engaging one with just as much respect, since it doesn't really give T4 anything but the impression it's "bad", or something that shouldn't happen? and some examples of it's weird directions like endings not matching the silly characters within it, like Kuma and Lee, or even Heihachi's ending or mentioning it's Tekken Force mode anywhere or other tiny details, that's why to me when it comes to certain series, some channels don't nail that deep dive, although time constraints are understandable reasons as is, anyway, much love for future ones.
@jjfloris48838 ай бұрын
I would LOVE for Max to narrate Tekken story lol. Anyway, I loved Tekken 4 back in the day. Jin's new look and fighting style was sick. And the stages awesome.
@SophiaForty-Four8 ай бұрын
I got this with my PS2 at the time and fell in love with the visuals. This was the first Tekken game I played a lot of so it has a special place in my heart.
@xHuie8 ай бұрын
seeing Tekken 4's intro in the arcade as a kid was my first introduction to the franchise, and boy was I confused why these Japanese business men were so angry at each other
@ljpal188 ай бұрын
Didn't you pay attention to the intro back then? Corporate espionage, obviously. Anyone would be made at a business rival taking trade secrets.
@NixtonV8 ай бұрын
Still the best costume designs, and it’s not even close
@twenty3don8 ай бұрын
I agree
@MrShahrozzz8 ай бұрын
T4 really felt like a next gen game! It paved the way for what Tekken is right now! & idc how impractical the stages were, they looked amazing! 🔥
@emansfvera8 ай бұрын
Tekken 4 Jin was godlike
@prettyboyg12787 ай бұрын
No other Jin costume comes close to hooded Jin. And the fact that the hood would come off when getting hit during fights was just jaw dropping. It’s still impressive to this day and I’m wondering why they never continued doing more of these amazing little details.
@joshsleezetube8 ай бұрын
I love Tekken 4. I will not apologize for that. Are the new mechanics wonky? Sure. But is that story not the best the series has ever had? UMMM YEAH! What saves Tekken 4 for me is that story is SO well written and characters are connected to each other in ways that make sense. Also I love that pretty much every stage can be seen and connected to one another and the fighters are all fighting their way to the arena to face Heihachi. I love that aspect.
@ssttpy8 ай бұрын
the mechanics may have been odd but as far as steve fox they haven’t been as good since 😂
@briancoulombe45178 ай бұрын
This is the game that introduced Steve Fox, so I love it. Also, a lot of ideas were introduced in this game that stuck around for later installments, so this game is more important to the series than you’d think.
@shamwow36158 ай бұрын
Tekken 4 was my first Tekken and i will love it dearly forever and i’m glad more love was given over time because the atmosphere of this game is still to this day UNMATCHED
@willyung58198 ай бұрын
Loved Tekken 4, the style and atmosphere, music. Fond memories of Jins JF Laserscraper, Kazs double IWS gutpunches into ewgf, Lee's infinite wall carry arena combos. Honmaru stage and music was amazing. Paul starting to look like Garou Terry Bogard with his hair down lol
@adamquenano85638 ай бұрын
Tekken 4 is not the worst but certainly not the best. This game changed Tekken forever. It changed the combo system with interactive backgrounds, introduced Christie and Steve and saved Jin’s gameplay by giving a new playstyle, and brought the seriousness and mishimas back to Tekken. I will say though it went too far too fast with what it was trying to innovate.
@DoctorUber8 ай бұрын
What would you say is the worst?
@adamquenano85638 ай бұрын
@@DoctorUber Probably 1. The input reading from the CPUs are bullshit
@MrTubeStuck8 ай бұрын
T4 maybe weird, but it was the Tekken that cemented my love for my 2 mains. Kazuya being the false hero and Lee having an infinite in that arena stage.
@ArtyomFinch8 ай бұрын
I'm absolutely in love with this just talking and chatting about the games instead of just playing through them. You can get so much more from hearing about a game and it's past and release than replaying it at times
@onilao8 ай бұрын
I feel like tekken 4 also came out at a time when people expected the darker turn? maybe its just me but many ps2 games had that slightly darker element to them. Ether way i still enjoy coming back to this game now and then! :D
@ShaunInce1238 ай бұрын
This was a game that became more appreciated over time. I do love the way the story mode is presented in this game, with the cool narrator & the pictures
@landonhulett21198 ай бұрын
Tekken 4 has a special place in my heart. I personally miss being able to move around before the fight began.
@LuckyOfJJ8 ай бұрын
underrated game, most innovative in the series can't tell me otherwise!
@RJH248 ай бұрын
This was my first tekken game . I always like the narration and art styles of the cutscenes .
@cebolinhacalvo73938 ай бұрын
I love the stages in Tekken 4. The whole vibe of the game is amazing too. Ig the "rooted in reality" thing actually is pretty charming when it comes to certain visual choices
@Diggy228 ай бұрын
Funny thing is, after the initial shock of Jin’s new move set, he became my main in Tekken 4 once I found out the lore-based reason. It had me hooked.
@ninjasilver8 ай бұрын
Gameplay was fine to casual players.
@niwona_8 ай бұрын
No Tekken I played more with friends. Everything felt inspired, right from the opening. It gave us Steve and Christie! I wanted the Jin hoodie IRL. They made a Paul redesign that was actually good. Single player was good. The stages and music all created this "lived in" atmosphere. Would love to be reunited with it.
@happyjam928 ай бұрын
Tekken 2 and Tekken 4 were two of my favourite games growing up.