It's Time To Sell

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A short update this week. What's ailing the Jeep? Tidying up the van. Tinkering with the Defender. It's time to let one of our vehicles go.
00:00 - Jeep Diagnostics
02:36 - Sprinter Fog Lamp
03:33 - The Pragmatic Thing to Do
04:26 - Flipped Defender Visor
05:28 - Vehicle Plans
05:59 - Antigravity Blog Post
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@nickedshears
@nickedshears 4 ай бұрын
The revel is cool, but there’s no replacement for orangie
@bntravelin2
@bntravelin2 4 ай бұрын
truth be told the winnie is nice , however the jeep camping and adventure is what got me here in the beginning . I look forward to more jeep camping and cheese sandwiches ! seriously add some mushrooms.....
@drewolm
@drewolm 4 ай бұрын
Agreed.
@billpitts5966
@billpitts5966 2 ай бұрын
I agree. I have not actually watched a video for months since the Jeep engine died. I enjoyed the old content much more. I know their life circumstances are changing and that's okay. Our interest was with the more difficult overlanding.
@IntoTheWildernessWeGo
@IntoTheWildernessWeGo 4 ай бұрын
So glad to see it isn't the Jeep going! Love the Revel too and the adventures it took you guys on but Orangie is the star of the channel! Good luck with the sale!
@Flugeldar
@Flugeldar 4 ай бұрын
Chris, his Orangie and Dan Grec have been the main reason why I bought (2018) a used JKU ordered a Ursa Minor Poptop and shipped this vehicle in a container from Switzerland to Vancouver to dive into a panam adventure…😊Thanks for the inspiration!
@Dwealdric
@Dwealdric 4 ай бұрын
Dream trip. Enjoy!
@venture4wd
@venture4wd 2 ай бұрын
Very cool! Hope you have/had an amazing trip!
@SweetComaBlack
@SweetComaBlack 4 ай бұрын
I seriously thought you were selling orangie when I saw the notification. I’m so glad to hear your not!
@kingstonsean
@kingstonsean 4 ай бұрын
That's what they call "click bait".
@danielk7111
@danielk7111 4 ай бұрын
Great to hear you’re pressing forward on adventures with Orangie! Maybe even with new wheels. 👍🏼
@bdake5832
@bdake5832 4 ай бұрын
Would love to see more tinkering on the Jeep and some precarious off-road situations!
@Mink_24
@Mink_24 4 ай бұрын
Looking forward to seeing the resurrection of the Jeep!
@arrowheadoverland
@arrowheadoverland 4 ай бұрын
My 2016 Jeep JK has 170,000 miles and is beginning to have some problems as depicted on my channel. I’m sooo glad you’re keeping the Jeep so those of us with high mileage vehicles might learn something from your experiences.
@Krystof.Veritae
@Krystof.Veritae 4 ай бұрын
Orangie is your Brand Symbol and I feel it should never leave your side \-/ when I think Venture4wd i think Orangie :) couldn't imagine the channel with out it ......some TLC and with new engine already in it is ready for new adventures ...Cheers .
@krisg3984
@krisg3984 3 ай бұрын
Looks like Shannon likes her home , and living in the Revel is no longer needed. Chris, you made the Sprinter Van into something pretty nice too ! Someone’s going to buy it fast
@venture4wd
@venture4wd 2 ай бұрын
Funny enough, it’s me that likes the home. Shannon would be totally fine still out on the road!
@terryh3689
@terryh3689 4 ай бұрын
I didn’t see that coming. Thought for sure it was the Defender you were getting rid of. Met you and Shannon at the Revel Rally in Durango, along with Finnegan. I hope you get what you need for the Revel. So many used ones on the market right now.
@matingram6718
@matingram6718 4 ай бұрын
Chris I have video recording that VERY SAME sound. Turns out, my front suspension all needed tightening up. Everything aftermarket had worked loose. 2013 Rubicon, 2018 jeepers jamboree and 2023 Moab. She’s been around like yours. Check all linkage. Good luck.
@knightvision4u
@knightvision4u 4 ай бұрын
So excited for Orangie to back in play! Looking forward to the off-road content! 😊
@sgt7838
@sgt7838 4 ай бұрын
Chris - longtime viewer and fan…from the early days when you were not sure what this would be. Glad you’re heading back to the Jeep. Be great to see a refresh of Orangie…that would be great to watch, and some kind of return to overlanding…recognizing that with a home base, it’ll have to be different, which will be fine with your fans.
@thecorpsofdiscovery
@thecorpsofdiscovery 4 ай бұрын
probably a wise choice. debt is crippling, physically and mentally. While the van was a great addition to the channel, you built this place with the jeep and theres no reason it cant continue to grow .
@vernonbennettiii3646
@vernonbennettiii3646 3 ай бұрын
Wise move deciding to sell the Mercedes RV (while it's still in great shape), and getting out from under the large debt. Also, I can only imagine how much it must cost you to insure that thing! Are you going to consider an off-road camper trailer for the Jeep, for your and Shannon's next adventures? That would provide some great content, I think!
@mclaughlin4321
@mclaughlin4321 4 ай бұрын
@venture4wd have you thought about exploring Alaska again? Maybe western Canada on the way? The Purcells look like an epic place to explore. Alaska is all the rage now and you might get some views. Your content has always been top notch.
@venture4wd
@venture4wd 2 ай бұрын
Thank you. Yes, it’s on the list but such a long trip and not in the cards immediately with Shannon’s work, unfortunately.
@TacoTraveller
@TacoTraveller 4 ай бұрын
My wife and I were talking after Chris’s last video about how he has too many vehicles. Glad to see him reduce the fleet.
@Out.on.the.Trails
@Out.on.the.Trails 4 ай бұрын
I was saying the exact same thing too, to my husband after the last video. Sorry to see the Revel go, but the Jeep is what got us started on this channel and our own overlanding adventures.
@robbrautigam462
@robbrautigam462 4 ай бұрын
No such thing as too many vehicles 😂
@TacoTraveller
@TacoTraveller 4 ай бұрын
@@robbrautigam462To each is own, but growing up with multiple family members who had numerous cars in the yard and only one that barely ran it thought me a valuable lesson in less is more. I’d rather have 1-2 well maintained cars than several you’re constantly working on.
@gregoryoppenheimer99
@gregoryoppenheimer99 4 ай бұрын
It’s nice to see how this book in your journey has opened and closed. Goes to show everyone that progress looks different at different points in our lives and that keeping up with what you have (no matter if you’re using it or not) is important.
@ThePinoyAggie
@ThePinoyAggie 4 ай бұрын
500 dollars for a fog light? That Dealer is something else. Thank God for DIY!
@hbjtf
@hbjtf 4 ай бұрын
I have an MB Sprinter beneath our Pleasure Way Ascent and Chris is spot on when it comes to MB dealers. It’s like those dealers believe they have the obligation to overcharge for everything. I don’t use MB dealers for our service and over the past 100K miles our maintenance might be 40% less than an MB dealer.
@jacekt4249
@jacekt4249 4 ай бұрын
Oh, nooo Chris ,it is very bad news. I am so like orange Jeep on the track.Week to week I am watching your off- road traveling.Gretting from Poland.:(((
@El_Dusty_
@El_Dusty_ 4 ай бұрын
Keep the Jeep!
@jbf5030
@jbf5030 4 ай бұрын
YEAH ORANGY!
@calsurflance5598
@calsurflance5598 4 ай бұрын
Truth be told, the orange Jeep has become your trademark. I’m not a van guy but to each their own. I do own a 2018 Jeep Wrangler and a 1966 Land Rover, and watching your Defender and Orangie step through the back country is like 4X4 porn! I stopped in at Sonoran Rovers on Tuesday and actually got to drive the Wolf you previewed a few weeks ago. I loved it ! What a beast. If it wouldn’t cost an additional $12,000 to smog certify it here in California, I would seriously consider it. Best wishes. Be safe and stay well. Keep the shiny side up.
@venture4wd
@venture4wd 2 ай бұрын
The Wolf is an amazing specimen, isn’t it???
@calsurflance5598
@calsurflance5598 2 ай бұрын
@@venture4wd Yes! I couldn’t believe how overbuilt it was! Very smooth, actually comfortable and felt like it was carved from a single block. I loved it! What a machine. Best wishes Chris, Lance
@robpugh0829
@robpugh0829 4 ай бұрын
Chris, hey buddy, glad to see comments back on. Glad to see you are doing well! I always liked that Jeep. It's great for hauling beds, lol.
@krashnpa
@krashnpa 4 ай бұрын
Chris, if you ever do sell Orangie, it belongs in some vehicle-based travel museum 😉
@gogerwi
@gogerwi 4 ай бұрын
Yea keep Ol' Orangie. The time and money to build a similar rig would be super costly and take a long time. I love Chesters Chicken.
@markwilliams6282
@markwilliams6282 4 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that it's time to let the Sprinter go. Hope it takes a little pressure off though. Thanks for all the good times, I've enjoyed your trips very much.
@paulk9534
@paulk9534 4 ай бұрын
Glad to see the back of the Revel…. I loved your original postings with Orangy but felt the concept lost direction with the introduction of the other vehicle, glad to hear we are back on track 👍
@Glenn.Cooper
@Glenn.Cooper 4 ай бұрын
For a second there I thought you might be selling orangy and I was going to scream" no!!! Selling the Winnie makes sense.
@01fxstsi
@01fxstsi 4 ай бұрын
Track bar mount bolt. The hole gets wallered out and the track bar shifts in the mount when you turn.
@ifly64s
@ifly64s 4 ай бұрын
I'm a Revel guy so I remember all the butt hurt on here when you got it. I have a Tacoma TRD Pro but I got the Revel for the same reason you did, my wife. lol I have to admit I love my Revel and it's paid off so I'm keeping it.
@mikepierson3097
@mikepierson3097 4 ай бұрын
Your sway bar end-links are shot, at least the one in the video is. Also, be sure to red loctite those spacers back on.
@reedmcbride3926
@reedmcbride3926 4 ай бұрын
Honestly a smaller used class c rv set up to flat tow Orangie would do you guys so well. If you went with a ford chassis you could even look into a u-joint off road conversion!
@GentleGiantFan
@GentleGiantFan 4 ай бұрын
Thank goodness......Saw the thumbnail and title and thought 'Ah man, he's selling Orangie.'
@derekhart944
@derekhart944 4 ай бұрын
Glad the jeep will be back on more adventures. Found you in 2017 when bought my Rubicon. Been watching ever since.
@katehutto6004
@katehutto6004 4 ай бұрын
Carrie, you outdid yourself on this one! Great video and great suggestion for a camping spot for me.
@scottymac5174
@scottymac5174 4 ай бұрын
Honestly, you were one of the more adventurous Sprinter van owners that I have seen...
@4x4overlandadventures55
@4x4overlandadventures55 4 ай бұрын
Your swaybar links are loose. You can see it in the opening shot.
@TimmyCramer
@TimmyCramer 4 ай бұрын
Two things I believe in to live my best life. 1. No debt whatsoever!! 2. Never get married. A low stress life is the only way to roll!! Timmy C Arizona
@dingleydell3250
@dingleydell3250 4 ай бұрын
on the same page man really good advice.
@troyallen5806
@troyallen5806 4 ай бұрын
You will always regret it. We all have to make sacrifices and hope that is not what this is, but man that thing brought you here. The adventure.
@bobfnvilla
@bobfnvilla 4 ай бұрын
0:13 point the drivers side lower sway bar end link bushing is bad.
@AlKulla
@AlKulla 4 ай бұрын
I think it's a smart move. Now that you guys have a home, selling it takes a big burden off. Don't get me wrong, I've been watching for years and would have still watched van videos as I have one myself but the jeep is the jeep
@user-js2re1dj6r
@user-js2re1dj6r 4 ай бұрын
sway bar end link looks like the bushing is gone.
@commonsense6050
@commonsense6050 4 ай бұрын
I have a 2017 Rubicon and had an issue in the front suspension also. The solution was replacing the ball joints. That was the one thing all the experts said would not cause the problem. So much for the experts. The lower ball joints had minimal play, but I replaced them with the adjustable Teraflex parts and everything was great again. Something to check.
@eugeneenslow8563
@eugeneenslow8563 4 ай бұрын
PHEW!!! By the title, I thought you were going to sell orangie. May I suggest you consider a Dynatrac ProRock 44 front axle for orangie. It can be built the width of your stock axle with spacers, which will give you proper scrub radius, resulting in much longer lasting components.
@petervollers
@petervollers 4 ай бұрын
Having the Revel made sense when it was your fam home, but now that you have a real property home, it's somewhat redundant.
@venture4wd
@venture4wd 2 ай бұрын
That is exactly the feeling here.
@brianbechtol7329
@brianbechtol7329 4 ай бұрын
Review 0:12 in the video. That stabilizer bar end link bushing is loose.
@black_widow_overland
@black_widow_overland 4 ай бұрын
Great episode. Looking forward for more Jeep and d110 content.
@loustgeorge6231
@loustgeorge6231 4 ай бұрын
Tough decision Chris but financially sound, you can always get another one later then back to a (nearly) perfect escape pod, just missing a boat🤪. Maybe you can find one you can put out the back and build into what you and Shannon want with a build video on it.
@goingoverland6403
@goingoverland6403 4 ай бұрын
Good Move! I cringed when I saw the episode where you said you had a 20 year loan on the Revel. I am looking forward to more videos with the Jeep and Land Rover.
@vikingz2000
@vikingz2000 4 ай бұрын
A poem I wrote many years ago that has served me well: Buy It? If you want it Don’t buy it Until you ponder it That you need it. Then, after you ponder it And still want it Because you need it And can afford it Without cred-it Buy it! But only if you really, really need it After you really, really, ponder it. Better yet Do with out it, Then forget it! The shorter version: If you want it Don’t buy it Ponder it That you need it And can afford it Without cred-it. Better yet Do with out it Then forget it!
@drewsbenmad
@drewsbenmad 4 ай бұрын
Well done. No one wants to worry about their investment being ruined on a remote trail. If you can’t take it down the road less traveled then get rid of it.
@scottkylelittle6105
@scottkylelittle6105 4 ай бұрын
Chris a better set up to consider for your Overland Adventures would be to have an Overland Trailer like a Patriot Camper. When you Overland solo you take the Jeep, when Shannon travels with you, you tow the Patriot Camper. I say Patriot because they are arguably the best, yes they’re expensive but they’re built to last like your Wrangler. A lot of people baulk at the initial price ( Brad from Trail Recon did ) but since owning one he raves about ownership. So does Marco from OverlandX. Worth a thought for your kind of adventure.
@odysseyusa
@odysseyusa 4 ай бұрын
He might as well keep the van then really. A basic sleeping camper would do the job for much much less.
@DanWActual
@DanWActual 4 ай бұрын
From one Revel owner to another, this is sad to hear you're selling it!
@ipaddlemyowncanoe.7441
@ipaddlemyowncanoe.7441 4 ай бұрын
I'm glad the Jeep's not going but when you got that big camper I thought. Oh boy that's a lot of money but you got to do what you got to do. If that's the case it's got to go. No questions about it. You're paying for it. You do what you got to do. 👍👍🙂🇨🇦
@nevrstopdrivin
@nevrstopdrivin 4 ай бұрын
Good to see you keeping orangie. I contemplated getting a Revel. The high cost turned me off. Instead I found a used ford transit Quigley and did a build out of my own. It gets me into some very sketchy areas. Looking forward to jeep refit!!
@Yukontom
@Yukontom 4 ай бұрын
I had a popping sound in 4wd on my jeep. It was the axel u joint.
@maxrensberger9856
@maxrensberger9856 4 ай бұрын
Yep..keep to basics n what you enjoy..so long as your physically able..finding out last month having a heart attack..one stent n a new lifestyle..over 4 decades of jeeps..my 03' TJ rubicon still working just fine..so thanks n do something fun today
@stephenwilson9612
@stephenwilson9612 4 ай бұрын
The Jeep is Venture4wd. The Winnie was a pleasant diversion but ultimately not capable or functional. Sell it to some baby-boomer whose idea of offroad is negotiating speed bumps in the Vons parking lot.
@jg-cs8xl
@jg-cs8xl 4 ай бұрын
When was the last time you replaced the bushings in the sway bar links? also check the rear sway bar bushings as well as the shock and other bushings. I dealt with that similar clicking and found sway bar bushings shot, stabilizer shock bushing missing. Replaced all worn out bushings took care of the noise - replace with rubber bushings, polyurethane bushings squeek badly after time. Also check that the coils are seated properly, sometimes they will rotate and hit against the coil seat stop. These kinds of noises are annoying and where you think it is may not be where it is.
@user-mo5mv5xs9r
@user-mo5mv5xs9r 4 ай бұрын
Good luck on the sale, the used RV market sucks right now, hopefully it’s paid enough down to sell it, good luck!
@ExploringWithTheBz
@ExploringWithTheBz 4 ай бұрын
I’ve dreamed about owning a 4x4 van for a long time. Even started to build out an Econoline a few years ago. Fact of the matter is, these vehicles are extremely expensive. Whether you’re starting from scratch or buying a fully functional machine like the Revel. I do still follow the market and it seems the used prices have come way down over the last year or so. Something to consider when selling yours. There’s a lot to be said about financial freedom, so I hope it all works out for you guys. Maybe a short wheelbase two door Rubicon is on your future? That would be fun. Good luck with the sale!
@saywhat..
@saywhat.. 4 ай бұрын
Wish I could say I was sad but I am not back to the Jeep perfect
@jeepsken
@jeepsken 4 ай бұрын
Tighten your driver sway bar link on the Jeep. You can see it move at the 10-14 second mark of the video. Might as well tighten both sway bar links.
@danielanaya267
@danielanaya267 4 ай бұрын
At the beginning of the video when you showed the suspension, the sway bar link looks loose.
@walternowak9984
@walternowak9984 4 ай бұрын
Glad Orangie stays❤❤❤❤❤
@FarrellMcGovern
@FarrellMcGovern 4 ай бұрын
It's a good time to get out of a loan. You probably have it at a fairly high interest rate, and now that those rates have fallen, it makes a lot of sense to sell. Good luck!
@ruckus1973
@ruckus1973 4 ай бұрын
The Jeep content brought me to the channel. The Aspie-coded adventures make everything super-relatable to me, but my own Aspie hyper-fixation on Jeep content and strong aversion to sudden/major change, probably would have put me off. Not trying to be adversarial, just honest. I think you're making the right choice. I am singularly pleased, myself. That said, I did dig the Revel. I like RV content, too. And the Rover's maxi-sweet.
@Rsomero
@Rsomero 4 ай бұрын
@12 sec it looks like your sway bar end link has a good bit of play in it, that could be your noise, or at least one of them.
@Introverted_Outlander
@Introverted_Outlander 4 ай бұрын
I totally understand the loan deal Chris not a good time to be in debt to a bank. I have an RV loan on my little off-road trailer and a car loan on my jeep grand Cherokee. I’m upside down on both. if you really wanna a four-wheel-drive van, you might look at something older that you can afford to pay cash for or pay off quicker using a low interest credit card. I’m starting to see a lot of Quigley vans for sale on craigslist. I think those that follow your journey will follow along, no matter what you’re driving.
@explore_off_road
@explore_off_road 4 ай бұрын
This will be an interesting turn of events... The Van thing isn't for me, but that's my just my opinion. It's like when a Rock Star starts to make softer music, or goes country... I didn't buy anymore of their music. Hee hee I really enjoy the Jeep... Ya, I'm a Jeep guy ... But those were cool adventures. And watching Shannon behind the wheel and learning was cool. As others have stated, Orangy is what brought me here as well. I watched the Van footage only because I wanted to make sure you got the support ... Maybe he will come to his senses. Hahaha (my opinion slipping out again). I think it's more of an exciting time now, to see what you guys come up with. I would really like to see both vehicles puttering around together!? ... And think about it!! Take the money you would have paid for the Revel ... Even the monthly payment... And put it into the other two!! Hee hee
@furrycutethings2124
@furrycutethings2124 4 ай бұрын
Good call, we miss the jeep.
@951media
@951media 4 ай бұрын
Sell it before the values plummet! It’s started and it will get worse by the end of 2024. Selling it seems smart bro! RV sales are slowing drastically.
@jacklomas7965
@jacklomas7965 4 ай бұрын
Hey Chris just FYI I think proper torque specifications are important and lock tight.
@RocklanderUSA
@RocklanderUSA 4 ай бұрын
Was clicking the loose ball joint?
@fwdadventuresza254
@fwdadventuresza254 4 ай бұрын
You had us very worried there Chris 🤔 So glad it's not Orangie going 😉
@Seemego4WD
@Seemego4WD 4 ай бұрын
My jku made this noise too. Could never figure it out. Upgraded to a 2024 rubicon, noise went away
@VelcorHF
@VelcorHF 4 ай бұрын
I have a feeling this is only part one. Hyped for the next few decisions you make. Will there be a new Jeep down the line?
@PetesJeepAdventures
@PetesJeepAdventures 4 ай бұрын
Hi Chris. Got me spooked for a while there, thinking you were going to sell Orangie. Like the Revel but Orangie is the star and the reason I started following you in 2017, since I got my 2018 JKU. Been a Patreon from the start. Can’t wait to watch more adventures with Orangie. You have inspired me to make my own little YT channel. Keep it up.
@venture4wd
@venture4wd 2 ай бұрын
Thank you Pete!
@Bimmerrx7
@Bimmerrx7 4 ай бұрын
Looked like the swaybar link was worn out.
@woosch
@woosch 4 ай бұрын
In your first shot you can see the sway bar bushing is shot.
@Bigsky1886
@Bigsky1886 3 ай бұрын
That’s what dealers do 😂💰💰💰
@scottymac5174
@scottymac5174 4 ай бұрын
Control arm bushings/upper and lower ball joints.
@agiberson6345
@agiberson6345 4 ай бұрын
Locking hub noise?
@harveyhagar
@harveyhagar 4 ай бұрын
Sell all three vehicles and buy a SWEET new Jeep...😂😂
@chrismv102
@chrismv102 4 ай бұрын
Short but sweet. Good luck getting what you want for the Revel.
@UBRLND-X
@UBRLND-X 4 ай бұрын
While you were looking into the popping noise on Orangy, it made me think about a question I have been meaning to ask. What is the lowest PSI you will go on your jeep using those OE Rubicon wheels with 35s? I just upgraded my 18 JLUR shoes to 35s and wasn't sure what I wanted to do as far as wheels so held off till all my research is in for my best option. After so many miles traveled in that configuration, you are pretty much the authority on this setup. thanks, in advance for your input.
@venture4wd
@venture4wd 2 ай бұрын
I take mine down to about 15psi. Seems about right for my needs.
@TW---
@TW--- 4 ай бұрын
Well, the haters got what they wanted. I really enjoyed the Revel content. But I seem to be one of the few. Shame the reason for selling is purely for financial reasons. Mark my words, you will miss the comfort and versatility the Revel brings to overlanding. Sad to see see it go from someone who wasn't afraid to use it to its full potential. Thank you for all the Revel videos.
@rodneyross5282
@rodneyross5282 4 ай бұрын
You got my attention quickly with the title to this video. I was going to tell you many things then you said the Rebel. My BP went down quick. In many ways I wish I was you. I being a Texan, and you have a beautiful Texas Lady, you have it made. The best of both worlds. However, the selling of Orangie would be bad for your mental health. You built that baby to meet your desires(requirements). She is the love of your life, it would be a divorce from hell LMAO. Wishing you and Shannon a super blessed week. With love from Central Texas.
@itchingtogo7362
@itchingtogo7362 4 ай бұрын
Smart move! Debt drives one’s life. So if you don’t like the path, you make decisions like you did!
@triple_alpha
@triple_alpha 4 ай бұрын
👍👌
@markj10
@markj10 4 ай бұрын
Noooo not the van …such a sad day😢
@dmitritestacough8551
@dmitritestacough8551 4 ай бұрын
Maintaining 3 vehicles is hard. All suffer neglect to some extent.
@angelosenteio
@angelosenteio 4 ай бұрын
Hate to see you go!
@OverlandCitrus
@OverlandCitrus 4 ай бұрын
wow Chris I hear ya vans are Big money glad mine is paid for or I would not of bought it just smoked my second alternator today 4900 miles WTF tow on Monday to dealer crazy everything is junk today wise I could go back to 70's & 80's LOL
@allowaycar
@allowaycar 4 ай бұрын
Good things it's not the jeep. If Orangie goes, I go!
@paisano777
@paisano777 4 ай бұрын
😮😮😮😮
@romeropostali520
@romeropostali520 4 ай бұрын
Good choice. No offense but I thought the revel was awful and a total disservice to your channel. I hope you get a gladiator and equip it for your travels
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