It Wasn't Me Update

[@michaelleitner1245]

I feel sorry for the child regardless of who the father is.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Well yes because we know who the mother is.

[@pamabernathy8728]

​@@LawTalkWithMikeAmen, Law Daddy. And Judge Cranky rocks -- can lie in bed & smoke in court! 😂

[@stephenmarcus7051]

Is she smoking in court?

[@brianhopper9515]

Yea cause neither want the child. I could raise the child better.

[@ZellaQuixote]

the mom’s demeanor in this feels very sus and manipulative

[@deerick3109]

What are you talking about. There is nothing but class coming from the mother. 🤮

[@stevefromchicago8277]

Just for the record, it wasn’t me either

[@kismet7645]

We’re going to need a DNA test. 😁

[@Broadsword999]

No it was that bloke Barry from Inverness.

[@brianhopper9515]

It wasn't me 😂

[@reginaodell3035]

Did you file the paperwork to prove it? If you did not respond to the court papers on time, you are the pressumtive father, so you need to help support the child. 🤔

[@barelyasurvivor1257]

How do we know that really though? Maybe you are the father.

[@grimly8352]

Some laws need changing. In paternity based cases, DNA tests should be mandatory. They'd be over and indisputable very quickly.

[@jakykong]

Reason #376 why I won't even approach a situation where fatherhood is a possibility. 🙃

[@LawTalkWithMike]

You must love goats 🐐

[@jakykong]

@@LawTalkWithMike That's the one kind of kid I'm okay with 🤣

[@debrawalkermeyer9109]

The man that says unashamed “I was in jail” at least deserves an extra looksie by the court and a DNA test. Now, is he the Father? I care more about this one than I ever did watching Maury

[@bitrunner9]

If this is who she is picking to be the Dad, imagine how bad the real one is!

[@aquanettte132]

& that's NOT a cigarette she's smoking either! Shocked she's not getting yelled at

[@shawd_thompson]

Weak judge.

[@GoodnightJLH]

How can you tell? I can barely see her in the ZOOM.

[@douglasducoteclown228]

When women lie about paternity they should be charged with a crime.

[@SouthernMenace]

@@douglasducoteclown228 when anyone lies about paternity they should be imputed,

[@shawd_thompson]

​@@SouthernMenace Nah, just women.

[@mishie618]

I absolutely agree.

[@psweeneyville]

Agree!!

[@batesamyjo]

What if they don’t know who is?

[@lkt766]

I believe him. The mom probably doesn’t know who the father is

[@KaoTik-do.a.di.di123]

Now, I need to know who random lady sleeps with ! And I'm totally invested because of you, LTWM

[@LawTalkWithMike]

😂

[@bucketree]

Promise ​@@LawTalkWithMike😂😂😂it’s the

[@maryjobst]

Regardless of the outcome, I don't think either party should "have" the child.

[@lindajohnson.]

Neither should get custody. Is the woman in bed? 😢. Is she smoking? Ridiculous!

[@davidhughes9086]

Sad thing is this poor child in the middle. I had great parents and life is hard enough.

[@colleenmoylan4214]

I missed this. I was watching Judge Middleton trial on my tv. It’s very interesting. You should check it out. At the end he stops the stream to go look at this horrid house.

[@csh43166]

Time to get the DNA -DNA doesn't lie!!! 🧬🧬🧬 I certainly agree that he shouldn't be responsible for a child that is not his. And he certainly should be if he is.

[@jackgoff4859]

Smoking a cigarette indoors where her child probably lives...probably receiving government assistance while managing to buy $14 packs of smokes.

[@violetscreaming]

$14 for a pack of smokes?? Wow. I haven’t seen cigarettes for under $50 in years

[@maryholden3136]

I thought it was a blunt

[@lindajohnson.]

Have any of these people heard of birth control. The children suffer!😢

[@LawTalkWithMike]

They don’t care about the children or the costs.

[@reginaodell3035]

It is easier to use birth control than raise a child.

[@mnkid25]

Classy smoking/forehead testimony.

[@michellestrickland7613]

Surely the court would know if he were in prison from 2013-2019

[@vivaldi1948]

I saw a case where the man knew he wasn't the father but signed the birth certificate. Later on the relationship ended and he decided he didn't want to pay for a child that wasn't his. The judge said too bad. You may not be the biological father but you signed the birth certificate and claimed yourself as the father, you are the father. Imagine how the poor child felt.

[@latoyaglvr]

My father is one who signed the birth certificate knowing he's not my biological. It would have crushed me if he did that when my parents ended up divorcing when I was 15. I stayed with him.

[@vivaldi1948]

@@latoyaglvr Glad you have a father who put you first.🥰🥰

[@latoyaglvr]

@@vivaldi1948 It's a special bond. He's my hero. And my husband is like him, very kind and loving. I am a lucky woman. Thanks.

[@reginaodell3035]

@@latoyaglvr My Daddy raised us, knowing he wasn't the father. My parents met when I was one. Yeah if he said, I wasn't his I would be crushed and I am an adult with a child of my own.

[@AndrewOvenden]

Is her name “Adnauseum” ??? Did i hear that right?

[@lindat3607]

Either way, I feel for that child.

[@Victoria7livity]

Poor kid. That mother is a delight, I’m sure.

[@voxpopuval]

Could someone be charged with fraud when they lie about a child's paternity?

[@misterdanielsiii]

No.

[@phyllistaylor5634]

She filed for welfare, had to name a father. She named him, he got defaulted.

[@michellestrickland7613]

All I see is her Alfalfa braids sticking up.

[@cyh6092]

Michigan law has been biased against fathers for decades. I'm not sure if anything has changed.

[@lindajohnson.]

All states are! The father pay, no matter what.😢

[@dianabivens289]

Thought that was some kind of rooster in bottom left at first glance.

[@colleenmoylan4214]

Something like this happened to my sister and her miracle baby at 40. She tried to have the father of the baby put on the birth certificate. Her divorce hadn’t gone through yet. They wouldn’t let her. She had to wait till she was divorced. If she wanted to,she could have gotten her ex to pay child support. She won’t even accept it from the father of the baby. It’s not like he’s offered though 😂

[@beebee_0136]

Key phrase "If she wanted to..." because the law allows that to happen... Thank God for other climes.

[@colleenmoylan4214]

@@beebee_0136 It’s pretty disgusting. There are woman out there that don’t care. They just want to get paid. If my sister was living off the government,they would have made him pay for a child that’s not his,whether she likes it or not

[@Zonnymaka]

He strangely didn't sound too happy about the DNA test...and he never asked for it

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Hard for me to read but luckily it really doesn’t matter. We have the technology to solve the mystery.

[@Zonnymaka]

@@LawTalkWithMike Very true, Mike...yet i feel like we'll miss the "lost evil twin" excuse. He was in jail afterall 🤣 P.S. IMHO, he's way too eloquent and rationale for being the average mooooron that he thought, for 5 long years, that everything was going to settle itself

[@Katrina-qs2rl]

An attorney/law teacher I know claims "if guys knew what I know, they'd NEVER get married.

[@SouthernMenace]

He's not so sprightly anymore =) This one could go either way.

[@icantbemanaged]

Love a morning quickie. Thanks Mike. Have a great and blessed day Let’s hope that is not his child. That child deserves a better father.

[@piva1358]

A quickie was probably what brought all this about😮😮😮😮

[@maryholden3136]

If she's naming him and he's not the father........ the real father must be a real prince. The only reason I can think of for naming an impossible person as the father is to protect the baby from the real father or to prevent any custody issues

[@susandodder1664]

Why is she allowed to not be seen and she's smoking. This should get called out

[@jdevivre7512]

I've seen a few Zoom hearings lately where the defendant doesn't appear on screen, or completely on screen, and the judge says nothing. 😮

[@davident1]

When I was laid up for a while, I unfortunately started watching Maury Povich. On NUMEROUS occasions, the mother was 100% sure that the man was the father. On MORE THAN NUMEROUS occasions it turned out that he was not. The mother always seemed SHOCKED that she was wrong. It always made me day just a little bit brighter. ROFLMAO

[@siiiiiuu7]

Whenever the guy does end up being the father is pretty hilarious too. Imagine growing up and seeing footage of your mom doing a celebration dance in your dad’s face because he didn’t want you… in front of an audience 😂

[@davident1]

@@siiiiiuu7 Agreed. I would definitely feel for the child.

[@WonderWhatHappened]

Her name is "A nausea"

[@deeb81]

I bet she thinks she's sickening *snap snap snap*

[@lisawatson9570]

😮😮

[@lisawatson9570]

Ad nausea. 😊

[@darwinjina]

Have seen conversations when various parties would say they had not been contacted. Yes, there was proof that there was a phone call or email, but it was not an attorney contacting the office, so it was not recorded as communication. Personally, was punished (made judge unhappy) when lawyer maintained that she did not receive an email from opposing lawyer. But opposing lawyer was able to prove that she responded to that email (so original was in the thread), so obviously she did receive it.

[@ashrak12]

She probably doesn't even know who the real father is.

[@leyla6392]

You bring a smile to my face and some sunshine on a very stormy day! Thank you for the morning quickie!

[@nymike907]

Why would she want him. In and out of prison is not much of a resume

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Well she is no prize but I think the angle here is just money.

[@traveling_bookseller]

I (the mom) paid child support to my mother until 3 years after her death. Because she had temporary custody while I was serving in the army. The kids came home once I got out, but I still had to pay child support. And child support had all the info they figured that I paid over $230,000 in child support when I shouldn't have. But they don't return any of the monies paid if they made the mistake.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

That is just wrong.

[@beebee_0136]

$230,000 are you sure?! That's four zeros! OMG!!! Why are stories like this under-reported? Remind me never to have dealings with CS/CC in the west

[@traveling_bookseller]

@@beebee_0136 I am sure. I thought there was a mistake myself. Turned out I basically had their house paid off. And it was a NY state and AZ state mixup of some kind. When one state would close it, the other picked it up. We lived in 2 different states, and that was the B.S. excuse they came up with. Think about this: if the mother had this issue with custody, what are all these fathers and non-fathers going through?

[@beebee_0136]

@@traveling_bookseller Wow... Indeed, if mother could be subjected to this, father definitely stands no chance. So sorry to hear... Thanks for sharing your story. Surely a systemic issue.

[@traveling_bookseller]

@@beebee_0136 I just hope these types of things get fixed. My ex had similar issues with his first wife and their son. I know it happens more than people know. I was lucky that I could afford to pay, a lot of single parents (and non parents) cannot.

[@reginaodell3035]

We will find out the next time, she will accuse another guy.

[@drericmweiss]

His dour demeanor makes me suspicious that he was hoping she wouldn’t show up and he wouldn’t have to prove it.

[@keiththompson2172]

The DNA would prove it either way . Amazing that there’s such a reluctance to do these tests which would immediately clear-up paternity. There’s a reason why it’s not mandated at birth - the governments around the world know that the paternity fraud numbers are high, high, high !

[@misterdanielsiii]

If there was ever a reason to be upset and lose your composure, this is it. This law is 100% trash. In some states, if you are married and she cheats, you will be responsible for the child after a time.

[@gregriddle1103]

Mike did u catch the judge king giving sovcit 30 days no early release for contempt yesterday? That’s a pretty good one!!!

[@LawTalkWithMike]

I did not

[@kevinwright7931]

That law needs to be changed. It should be by DNA test only.

[@modelcitizen1977]

She certainly seems eager to take a test if she knows its going to show she's wrong. If he was in and out of prison, maybe he was in and out of her? I doubt he spent his time on the outside volunteering at church.

[@dukebothers]

God bless amen

[@cynthiarodriguez1019]

A-nausea....i can see why that name is appropriate right now. And he's definitely NOT the father. She just didn't wanna lose face in front of everyone

[@tamaralynn2069]

I agree with you, Mike!

[@michellestrickland7613]

2013-2019, 2019-2023 Prison... What's a lengthy stint. How can anyone legally say he is the father if he was in prison when it was conceived and there are no conjugal visits in his state.

[@suepongallo]

Not biologically speaking, just legally speaking, which is what you asked.. When the child was born, the mother declared him the father. He was served some kind of notice of that while in prison, but lacked resources or know-how, so he did nothing about it until 5 years later when he was on the outside, getting his wages garnished. The judge explained at his last hearing that his window of time to contest that closed 3 years after he was served notice, so the child became legally his. I'm not any kind of legal professional. I'm just explaining what the judge told him.

[@Katrina-qs2rl]

Because the legal definition is different from the biological definition. (Some fellows have been known to allow their name on the birth certificate of babies that aren't even theirs, making them the legal dad.) All that said, this is terrible. Poor guy. He knows he's not the bio dad, so he wasn't especially worried about filling out some papers in between prison stints. Hopefully, he'll get justice soon.

[@meaganlewis6077]

I pay child support on legally adopted children We obviously don't share DNA but they are still my children as if I gave birth to them as far as the law goes

[@michellestrickland7613]

@@meaganlewis6077 Yes, but this isn't the same at all. He's not been in the child's life at all.

[@meaganlewis6077]

@@michellestrickland7613 yes, I'm aware, I was responding concerning that there is plenty of ways someone can be the legal father even if not the biological father

[@paulw176]

I'm afraid to ask..but ...did the Jury ever come back with a sentence in Judge Boyd's court i.r.t. to the Negligent homicide case??

[@babzaustin5695]

We do have a culture of deadbeat fathers, so for those children, I want them cared for. I am against one father being held responsible for another father’s irresponsibility, so that is why we have a court system to try to get to the truth. Hugs 🙃b

[@gharghak5617]

Men make the laws, yes? And men should be responsible when they create children. Always happy to hear from Pro Choice crowd!

[@ericwood9513]

How can you put a cap on how much time you have to challenge whether someone is the father of a child or not? That's just wrong Who cares why it took so long, maybe he wanted to be the father, doesn't mean anything if he waited 5 years, let him challenge it and move on, I actually went through a paternity thing when I was locked up, found out a girl was pregnant before I went in and thought for 4 years I had a daughter, first time I seen her I knew she wasn't mine so I had to jump through the hoops, thankfully I got it all squared away pretty quickly

[@Castedlots]

Did we miss the sentencing for Castro?

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Jury apparently coming back Monday for more deliberations

[@Castedlots]

@@LawTalkWithMike Thanks man, I'm invested... As painful the process

[@michaeldunlap1364]

How do we not have answers??

[@Scubacroc]

It will take a year or two for the results, and wait till the 'father' finds out he has to pay for it as he is the petitioner.

[@michellestrickland7613]

Wow covers everything here.

[@mrss0712]

I personally know a man who was told by his ( ex) wife on the day after their divorce that their 16 yr old son wasn't his. She knew the entire marriage and had zero remorse. And since he had raised the child, he would be responsible for child support thru age 18, then Half of his college, medical, dental.

[@Hails27]

It's shocking how women can be believe so easy to point this guy has money out his wages utter disgrace

[@nancyalexander780]

That poor child!

[@claricecaulfield7380]

Ms Brown looks like a peach of person! Especially the smoking in court!! Makes her look classy! 🙄🙄🙄

[@michellestrickland7613]

It does matter. The government wants people dependent on it so you would think they wouldn't try to alienate all males in the country, but it do.

[@rodneyjones8433]

Let's Ask Maury, or Jerry Springer

[@billchmelik5697]

Dude sounded stoned in the last appearance

[@marymatthys7499]

He was probably married to her, making him the presumed father legally. He would have to take legal action to get off the birth certificate.

[@tweetitweet9486]

I remember years ago on Maury a young girl was 1000% percent sure who was the father - she came back 19 times to tell the same story! LOL

[@GoodnightJLH]

For the 2013 case, he was released on probation but violated probation after 4 months so was jailed June 2014. I just can’t find information about when he was released. The 2013 crime was home invasion. This guy goes by “La Capone Libbett” and his description sounds a bit sus. I’m surprised she wasn’t allowed to testify about when they were together to conceive the child.

[@theresagarcia4892]

Men can request paternity tests and if they were never informed that they supposedly had a child they can get it reversed if dna proves they aren’t.

[@UncleDavesKitchen]

they both sound like frogs croaking under a bridge.

[@davidparsons3076]

She is a self-conceptionist.

[@kismet7645]

They might both think they’re right and one of them doesn’t know their months.

[@suepongallo]

@kismet7645 in the first hearing, what the man said was he was in prison all the time from 2013 to 2019, with no conjugal visits, and the baby born in 2016. He may be lying. He may have forgotten that he got a contact visit somehow. Otherwise, one of them has to be lying and know they are lying.

[@michaelkaizer85]

He said he was out for a few months too though, who knows we'll find out soon enough.

[@dsn385]

We should find out.

[@juliesollis9262]

You lived by the airport, that would suck😫😫

[@Vaelosh466]

10:50 - "Anasiyay" 😆

[@johnthelabman8560]

He seems to be hearing just fine. What was this sham at the other hearing about he needed a special translation program. He needs to get an attorney.

[@robertnorth1681]

This couple is quality. I think the child would do better in adoption.

[@YvonneMelvin]

Parents teach your children yeahhhhh is NOT A WORD. Y E S. No not naaawww.

[@madwell1]

If he even got the letter in jail.

[@RoxyLynne]

Was that lady’s name “ad nauseum”!?

[@marybell3409]

Why would the Government have to pay for child support?

[@donloutsios2437]

Really, we will never know? What a let down.

[@cjeatmon1520]

He was in prison? Shocker.

[@kezibythelake]

I wonder if neither are lying but one of them doesn't know how to count weeks of a pregnancy.

[@beebee_0136]

When and where was this case held, Atty Mike? Would you consider doing more of these reaction videos?

[@beebee_0136]

So technicall, it's possible for a lady in the US, with all necessary biodata at her disposal, to put down a random unsuspecting guy's name on her ch!ld's BC prior to court issuing a DNA test? In the 21st century? Interesting...

[@juliustimber7153]

1st guy: Someone’s had it in for him.

[@wisemom9359]

What with the smoking during court??!!

[@ducknorris233]

It doesn’t have to be an official conjugal visit to get the job done, he could be lying about being in prison the whole time and he could have frozen splerm. So at a minimum it needs a DNA test.

[@lisabradley3368]

Both will pay him and the government

[@SweetStuff-yj6ez]

Ridiculous if he was locked up, please make it make sence

[@YvonneMelvin]

Is this for him to pay child support, then when he went to prison they took a DNA and should be on CODIS, then get child dna, WALA

[@MelanaC]

I actually hope he isn’t the father because that woman seems very manipulative

[@latebloomer7191]

He's not really a prize either. They're kind of a good pair.

[@shawd_thompson]

Weak judge! No smoking, dress appropriately, full head in the camera! So aggravating!

[@stormygal67]

As a woman, I believe that any woman who commits paternity fraud should be charged by prosecutors and actually jailed for their lies. If they don’t know who the father is prior to DNA testing, that’s all they need to say. It would be much easier if every child was required to have DNA testing at the time of birth, similar to other required test which evaluate for potentially deadly or debilitating metabolic diseases. I’m always infuriated by the stories where the mother knows that a particular man isn’t the biological father, but because he is financially responsible she lies and says that he is. A few years later he somehow finds out that he isn’t the biological father, but has been providing financial support, usually through a child support order. In that situation, the mother should be charged and the accused father should be able to sue for restitution in the amount of support obtained via fraud perpetrated by the mother. Immediately any claim of paternity should be void. That seems to be the only fair outcome, but laws are against men in this situation because government officials don’t want to be forced to use taxpayer money to support the child. The mother should be the financially responsible party, not the government until she names the biological father and there is testing. At least in births which occur outside of marriage, DNA testing should be mandated and it would be reasonable across the board.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Agreed and it will never happen

[@jakykong]

Doesn't even need to go that far: require both purported parents to positively affirm, and bring it to the courts before any decision is made. Default judgements on this seems completely insane to me.

[@pamtodd9053]

Absolutely agree. It’s time to make changes!!!

[@ElOso6736]

No Jerry Spinger moment?

[@ChuckAtComicList]

The chair is not his son.

[@pattysmith6878]

Why don’t the women just name the real fathers and go after them?

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Maybe they are married maybe they don’t really know🤷‍♂️

[@eileennovak1656]

You must find out if he's the baby's daddy.

[@bfg1836]

Is that woman’s name pronounced Nausea?

[@DrankCoffee2Day4Real]

It is not a coincidence that her name sounds like "nausea."

[@AnonymaxUK]

Can't he file a motion to set aside?