"It Wasn't Poison... It Was An Accident!" | E06 E22 | Law & Order

[@MooncrafterUTAU]

I loved the regret dawning on his mother’s face when she realized what he’d done. She was so focused on stoking the flames of her hatred that she lit her own son’s hatred, pushing him towards a solution he might never had even considered if his mom had just shut. Up. About the “replacement” family for 5 seconds.

[@msbigredmachine]

Exactly.

[@melanieberthelo9582]

Nah this is what happens when men are selfish. They go off and start a new family, and forget they have other children. His mother has all the right to be angry. She’s part of the first wives club.

[@TheHolyVindicate]

@@melanieberthelo9582did you miss this episode? The mothers vitriol clearly influenced the son. There’s a duty to not constantly demonize your ex partner to your child, they don’t want to hear that.

[@jeromemaida4933]

​@@melanieberthelo9582Loser

[@jeromemaida4933]

​@@TheHolyVindicateThank you

[@StarWolf2199]

Despite this being a show, this pulls at my heart. I can understand that the boy was upset, but killing the baby was just terrible! The baby didn’t do anything wrong, and that’s what really hurts. A baby lost it’s life because of the boy’s jealousy

[@katherynemero4118]

And, oddly, he did his younger brother a favor. His parents were never around anyway. He was going to be raised by the maid and the au pair. If you don't have time to spend with your kids, why even have them at all?

[@jexelbur6872]

@@katherynemero4118 Killing someone is doing them a favor? For a person who’s dying of cancer maybe, but a healthy baby that’s less than a year old? That baby was unaware of what was going on. Sure his parents could have been around more but he wasn’t being mistreated. At least the baby was being taken care of. I know parents who won’t even give their kids attention, let alone hire a sitter. Killing that baby wasn’t a favor, it was cruelty.

[@ciobalina7445]

​​@@katherynemero4118 People can end up living happy lives even if they were neglected emotionally by their parents during childhood. But I get your point. It's just that one's parents aren't everything in life and I personally prefered my indepence when I was little.

[@Isabella2335.]

@@katherynemero4118 faming the nanny was a good favor ?

[@marshaloiscamillephilpotts6406]

​@@katherynemero4118 How is killing his baby brother a favour he killed his brother because he was jealous and nothing else plus there are a lot of children who are raised by nannies and au pairs who turn out to be productive, stable and well-adjusted members of society.

[@robertc7232]

This is perhaps my favorite defense attorney in the Law and Order universe. She's smart, sassy and goes for the throat during her cross examinations. A viper, ready to strike at any sign of weakness. It was easy to root for her in this episode because her client was actually innocent.

[@Baldeagle-tw2nv]

I love how the DA basically told her that they intentionally set up the kid to admit he murdered his brother. That was the best way for the truth to come out and find the nanny innocent.

[@winniedortch1863]

I LOVED HER!!!!!

[@lasaboteuse]

the great Patti LuPone! Broadway star and force of nature

[@zarachastellaris9016]

And she isn't sleezy like the majority of them

[@mamewedjisylla7991]

Yeah but she was not that innocent why nurse à baby if you can't keep up with the crying. It was clearly overbearing for her and that's, why could have easily poison the baby.

[@notaracist169]

the fact that I knew the boy was the killer as soon as I saw him, makes me wonder, am I watching too many crime series?

[@Tay-cg1pt]

Same 😂 I was like it’s him. He’s jealous of the baby. Scooby Doo trained me. It was still an entertaining watch though cause I didn’t know for sure

[@AntoinettexKitten]

Reminds me of that paris boy

[@paulg903]

You might subconsciously be noticing writer and directors filmmaking patterns. They normally have a rough formula of how they introduce the "killer" often they appear as an innocent bystander. The ex wife would have been too obvious. So it was a toss up between the nanny and the son.

[@kou7191]

@@paulg903 but the nanny became the prime suspect and 9/10 times theres a plot twist so everything points at the other son, the question now being 'how' rather than 'why'

[@aspenrebel]

YES!!

[@petemaynard]

As soon as that kid said, "It's terrible" (at 2:37) I knew he did it. The way he lingered over his words.

[@wilsonfilms7641]

That tells me he wanted to get caught most killers always want to get caught but some don't want to

[@kyndrablankenship1758]

​@@wilsonfilms7641Why would a killer wanna get caught?

[@wilsonfilms7641]

@@kyndrablankenship1758 have you ever read the book stephen kings it in the box patrick hockstetter killed his brother out of jealously and Henry Evans was a sadistic psychopath he killed his baby brother Richard in the bathtub and took his rubber duck until his mom finds it in the shed

[@wilsonfilms7641]

@@kyndrablankenship1758 because either they feel bad for what they done or they did it out of Revenge in case the teen did it out of revenge from his father who left him and his mom for someone else when he is caught by the attorney he confessed what he did his father was so angry 😡 almost wanting to kill him

[@recipefordisaster5740]

The second he talked about the stroller on the stairs. I called bullshit.

[@bbmcrae]

"You owe me." This show is so great.

[@UncannyLiving]

I need to see the full episode and see the reaction of the wet nurse who was innocent, and see if they apologized to her when she was telling the truth all along. Also side note, no finger print testing on the bottle? Couldn't have been more than 3-4, the wet nurse, the son, and the workers who put it on the shelf

[@rsybing]

@@UncannyLiving I don't think we heard from the nanny after the confession. The father confronted his kid before he was taken away, then the lawyers get together for drinks, and that's it.

[@RvLeshrac]

@@UncannyLiving Important lesson in Law & Order: You don't get closure.

[@lorivingot5495]

She was a nanny/au pair. A wet nurse is someone who breastfeeds a baby when the mother is unable to. They were common from the beginning of home until the invention of formula, but don't really exist anymore.

[@cathryncampbell8555]

This is eerily reminiscent of the Road Hill House murder in 1860. Sixteen-year-old Constance Kent killed her younger half-brother, three-year-old Francis Saville Kent, because her step-mother was cruel & her father neglectful. Constance initially proclaimed her innocence, only to confess her guilt in 1865.

[@nessyness5447]

Well most l&o cases are inspired in real cases.

[@lauradees4625]

That was a very messed up case! I do hope the father wasn't sleeping with the stepmother while she was a nanny

[@kathleencummings8081]

Whilst she did confessed and was sentenced to hang (which was commuted to 20 years in prison by Queen Victoria), there are still some people who believe that her confession was a lie, and that she was covering for her brother or her father (who many believed was having an affair with the nursery governess). kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZvZh4WOibGinNk After she left prison she changed her name, moved to Australia, and lived to 100.

[@MrPolicekarim]

I believe that her brother came up with a way to get pearls. Pearls are formed when an clam is attacked. It sprays a liquid which, when hardened, becomes a pearl. He would get a broken piece of sea shell, then stick it in the clam, to irritate it. This is how he started farming pearls.@@kathleencummings8081

[@aspenrebel]

​@@kathleencummings8081Along with all the other convicts. Australia, only country founded by criminals.

[@sacredflower8748]

I think his mother’s blatant hostility towards his dad and stepmom had a part to play as well. She very clearly was bitter about them being together and having a baby, and children are a product of their environment.

[@yasfaaslam1319]

What do you expect the mother to feel. 24 years of marriage & leaving ur wife & kid behind. That's no excuse for murder though. That's life. The kid obviously took matters in to his own hands. Very tragic for the mother she lost a husband and her grown son.

[@rachelgarber1423]

I also blame the father, she may be his ex-wife, but the boy is still his son. Never show up for anything for his older child, if the father hadn’t all but abandoned him in favor of his new family the kid would probably been immune to his mother’s attacks on his father. He bears responsibility for the his son’s jealousy of his baby brother

[@elenagaroti]

That baby is a reminder of the kid's life getting ruined. I only blame the father and the mistress

[@EthalaRide]

The mother poisoned her son psychologically, so he poisoned they new son _literally._ I don't think she's legally responsible for for his actions, but that sure didn't help.

[@k.m512]

You think the son wouldn't have his own resentment to the man who broke his family apart and abandoned him and his mom? Anything to blame a woman 😂

[@londonm3161]

my dad never paid child support, never initiated communication except to threaten us, and I'm pretty sure the only reason he had us around at all was because he couldn't lie and say he didn't have kids on his dating profile so he had to seem like an engaged father. he married my stepmother and has two new kids with her. he has his do-over family now, he doesn't really talk to us anymore. my brother was born when I was 16 and my sister when I was 21. I would absolutely do anything for those kids, I would kill and die for them if they needed it. when my brother was a baby, he would fall asleep on me every day for his nap. the day my father dies will be the day I can breathe a sigh of relief, but I couldn't imagine hating my baby siblings for existing as a byproduct of the trauma my father put us through. never in my life have I even thought about hurting them as an act of revenge. they are not the ones who hurt my family, they're just innocent children. I cannot feel sympathy for a person who so heinously misdirects their anger

[@wilsonfilms7641]

i feel you😥my dad left me and my mom and sister for some rich girl and never came back to be honest im glad he is not in my life but it tore my mom apart but she got over it and 2 years later my father we got to talk a little bit but he didn't care about me or my mom so i told stay out of my life i don't what his life his now but i hope he's making them happy like what he did to me my mom and my 2 sisters it was hard in the begining but things started new afterwards😃

[@aqua6613]

Same here. Dad left for another woman and started a new family. I was able to find him and called him on the phone and he had the audacity to tell me he loved me. If that is "love" I wouldn't want to know what your "hate" looks like. When I gave another attempt to reconcile he had already passed from pancreatic cancer. I learned the truth from his mother. The new wife made his life a living hell. My mom almost died from anorexia when I was growing up and in the end my dad looked just like her and died from it. My mom called out to God and she got better and is living a happy life now. I worked my way up to a decent lifestyle also. Life shouldn't have been that hard, but life is pretty easy now since my mom and I had to deal with and work through the hard stuff early. I almost feel worse for people who grew up with an easy life to then fall on hard times, and those are coming, which is probably why it seems so many people are snapping and wiping out entire families and themselves. End times

[@HoldenNY22]

I was lucky in that I had a Mother and Father. My father was a very doting father. My mother's father ran off on her when I think she was 2 or 3 years old. I don't know if he has any children from the Secretary he ran off with. This happenned many years ago probably in the 1940's or 50's. But this affected how my mother felt about Men and her relationship with my father and her Children.

[@Kadasberry11]

Agreed.

[@AntoinettexKitten]

Same

[@GenerallyTyler]

Even in fiction there's always this sense of dread you feel when a child character dies. Especially one as innocent as an infant.

[@throwaway_nerd]

I get that feeling but with animal death in fiction. Never cared about kids biting it in fiction really, but I’ve always had a soft spot for animals.

[@cambriatevis6907]

Also the sense of dread when a child commits murder.

[@iberlo85]

Nope

[@telikaandfam]

is it weird i dont feel that way i feel like the baby escaped the pain and unfairness of life death is actually peaceful except for the people who miss you and selfishly want you to stay alive and suffer this life with them

[@tiny_eng]

I respect the judge for pulling everyone aside for the confession. Clearly the boy was troubled and his parents' behaviours did not help him, but killing a baby is still a heinous crime and he will see the consequences. The judge extended him a little bit of kindness by letting him say it on his own terms instead of being pressed in front of his parents and a crowded court room.

[@QrincessQri]

Can’t believe y’all are arguing over which parent is in the wrong. 🤦🏻‍♀️ The dad is foul for essentially abandoning his wife and son to start a new family. Your oldest son might be a teenager but he’s still gonna need you as an active part of his life. As for the mom she let her anger and hurt consume her. She always seemed angry and aggressive during her screen time, especially with the way she talked about her husband. Her feelings are definitely valid but her son didn’t need to see and hear all of that. Have a friend who grew up with divorced parents that absolutely HATE each other. She’s 26 now and has cut contact with both of them because of the trauma they’ve inflicted on her. Was literally diagnosed with a form of PTSD because of them. 🥴 A home shouldn’t be filled with anger, shouts/screams, threats of violence, etc. How is anyone let alone a teen that’s still developing supposed to thrive in that kind of hostile environment?

[@afihaileywibowo1095]

Exactly 😢

[@corneliusharris152]

Exactly

[@TheBatugan77]

BLAH blah BLAH blah BLAH blah BLAH bloviating blowhard blowfest BLAH blah BLAH.

[@dylanram4653]

CPTSD

[@jadestarletia]

Did your friend's parents blame her for their screw-ups? Was that why she stopped talking to them and what you meant about her trauma and PTSD or CPTSD?

[@geoffoldread7684]

"The baby's dead" is actually one of the most unintentionally hilarious lines ever uttered on the show.

[@Lacroix999]

What’s funny about a dead baby? If you ever had to plan a funeral for one, you’d know that it’s not.

[@CoralineXVermin]

I second this. I spit soda out everywhere when she said it.

[@codeblood2000]

🤔

[@bindibabeeh978]

I think it was just the way it was delivered haha bc she was all nice saying he wasn't responsive etc then suddenly cut to "the baby's dead" like it was just unexpected and a huge switch haha

[@earlleeruhf3130]

You have a sick sense of homour! You must be a cut up at funerals.

[@suekelley2109]

To me thIs has always been one of the most sad episides. Dad basically forgot he had another son when the baby was born, mom (first wife) was angry and bitter and obviously didn't mind telling her son all about what a louse dad was... Add to that puberty.... Not justification at all for what he did but Mayne he should have poisoned dad instead. And noe dad has lost both of them. Its not in this clip but the part when the police have Evan and the dad runs out and looks like he's going to strangle Evan, Evan looks st him with the most hopeless chilling look. Great acting by the young man... Who is he?

[@wilsonfilms7641]

It was almost simular like in that 911 lone star episode of season 1 episode 2 restaurant delivery guy poisons entire office building pouring mercury liquid in the good but was caught later reason why he poisoned them because treated him awful and never tipped him and smiled evil like he wanted them dead believe me when you talk about that law and order episode compared to 911 lone star there both good

[@ytafan4068]

The father threatened in front of a court officer to break Evan's neck, and Evan said, "Go ahead." It's as though he had given up on life. He knew that any chance of having a normal life ended now. I also think that regardless of the results of this trial, the au pair is finished. She's not going to be a nanny anymore. She's burned out. This reminds me of a later episode with the blond ADA, and William Atherton (sp), the EPA guy from Ghostbusters, was in the show. His new wife was killed, and he blamed his ex-wife. While she was a viable suspect, I think they established her alibi as unshakeable. End result, their daughter killed the new wife. Daughter blamed new wife for her parents' breakup and wanted them back together. Dad wasn't going to do anything, and mom became a drunk because of the break-up. She thought the new wife's death would end the arguments, but they continued arguing and blaming each other in front of her when they were all gathered in that meeting room. When daughter yelled at them to shut up, and McCoy started to confront her, one of the parents' lawyers got a look on his face as if realizing who the killer really was.

[@wilsonfilms7641]

@@ytafan4068 well moral of the story is love your kids so much and never neglect them sharon Rocha the mother of laci peterson once said no parent should not find out the way their child was murdered what that kid did he took his step brother life and reach the point of no return and second moral don't let vengeance get a hold of you always remember that

[@lindinle]

The son had a key implying that he was good enough terms with dad. Seeing how the mother acts when we see her first always bashing the man that left her. I can tell you as a fact that that mother always bitched about him to her son. Using the poor lad like a fucking therapist. And going through puberty...ohhh dear lord, that makes things worse.

[@pythonkatie1985]

Young man is Charlie Hofheimer. Looks like he's done a lot of TV guest work and has been in some movies; Would You Rather, The Village, Black Hawk Down and Lassie to name a few.

[@TDashem]

Nurse: “No problem sir😊” Nurse half a sec later: “The babies dead.” 😑

[@nicholasogburn7746]

*doctor

[@TDashem]

@@nicholasogburn7746 *actor

[@UncannyLiving]

@@nicholasogburn7746 Love you, was thinking the same to say. Maybe I'm lame and corny, but tired of women being seen as nurses and only men as doctors! Idk ahaha, my sis is a doctor and I will always advocate for female recognition in the medical field, they do 12 years of schooling and more! Nurses are amazing too my mom is one

[@aspenrebel]

If I was in that situation that woman Doctor was in, I would said "that's it, I'm outta here, I'm going home, I can't do this".

[@yung1717]

She’s clearly a doctor. Wonder what bias would have you call her a nurse hmm

[@charmides898]

Patti Lupone is so perfect in every role she plays, I love her 😍

[@KajunMs39]

I know!! I thought the same when I saw her!!❤

[@TheBatugan77]

I like when McCoy feeds her a cookie during the trial.

[@themermaidstale5008]

Didn’t she play a detective in an L & O episode?

[@charmides898]

@@themermaidstale5008 I think she did! There’s a lot of repeats for the cast extras in that show haha

[@justincase7848]

Kid is a very good actor.

[@boogieoogie1727]

The writing didn’t do him much justice

[@jworth7203]

Who is that?

[@justincase7848]

@@boogieoogie1727 I actually thought it was good. A kid at that age without much self awareness is liable to come across that way- basically sounding pretty stupid. I thought that that was realistic.

[@rabbitsfoot8]

Lawyers made that woman out to be a monster simply for working a high pressure job...

[@Deborahtunes]

Well in all fairness to the defense attorney, the mother didn't even want the baby. She knew very little about him. And only asked about him on the phone as an afterthought. I certainly wouldn't give her the 'mother of the year' award. Her career was more important than her infant son...

[@mernaloisbrown5809]

I totally agree the lawyers who are doing their jobs by defending their jobs are saying working mothers are the worst and that they love their jobs more than their children which isn't true and wrong too and it is a fact also that some working mothers love their jobs more than their children too.

[@mernaloisbrown5809]

​@@Deborahtunes The woman loved her baby and she is devastated, heartbroken and hurt over his death and just because she works and loves her job doesn't mean she didn't love her child.

[@anthonybanchero3072]

@@mernaloisbrown5809 If I remember, the Defense Attorney was a divorced mother. After tge trial, her, Claire, and McCoy were having a drink, she left early.

[@heatheranddenerale]

Right, dads can never come home from work and no one thinks anything of it.

[@lithara5302]

I never saw this episode but I have seen loads of law and order/ SVU episodes. As soon as the older half brother was introduced I knew he was the killer. The killer is almost always someone introduced within the first 20 minutes who does not play a major role, or it is obvious and those episodes focus more on the trial/loop holes in the system etc.

[@sigheyeroll]

Yeah, that's the downside of watching too much SVU, it becomes formulaic. Like 90% of the time it's the guest star or the second guy they introduce in the story.

[@lithara5302]

@@sigheyeroll yea I know. Still a great show because occasionally there is one that surprises. But in terms of shows and movies in general I have been able to pick out the plot twist/killer early in. My mother is amazing at it. That is part of the reason I like law and order though. Some episodes make it so obvious who the guilty party is making the episode about proving their guilt and it shows flaws in the legal system. That being said, these days plot twists are expected making reveals less exciting. Too bad we can't unwatched the movie "the usual suspects" and see if we knew who kaiser was all along lol.

[@shawnjackson3562]

Not justify the boy killinghis brother, but there's a LOT of blame to go around. Mainly directed at the parents. Biological mom, she was hurt/jealous because her husband replaced her with a younger woman, and seemingly shut her and the son out. When the cops asked the boy about his brother, mom nastly corrects and says "half-brother". This boy probably had to endure hearing his mother going through rollercoaster of emotions after the parents broke up. The father and the new wife, hired a nanny that clearly didn't like babies, but then I don't think the parents like the baby either as they both spent more time from home than with the child. If dad had handled the break-up better both sons would still be in his life. LAO has a great team of writers. 🙂

[@elenagaroti]

If only men would not ruin their families with whores

[@YeshuaKingMessiah]

The boy that killed the baby WAS A PSYCHO U don’t someone becuz ur hurt frustrated n angry! Esp an infant!

[@cadejust6777]

​@@YeshuaKingMessiah The Boy 👦♂️ Was A Victim Of Circumstances?.

[@Exodianecross1978]

The true villain is the father here: He basicly disgarded his first wife and son for a younger woman and a child with her! And then expected it would work fine! He may be not responsible in a judicial way, but morally!

[@Ashbrash1998]

It's both the parents failing at being parents. Mom was making the home toxic because she couldn't get over her ex leaving and made the kid play therapist.

[@Exodianecross1978]

@@Ashbrash1998 I agree. But I can understand the bitterness of the disgarded wife, her anger and rage.

[@specterman2000]

I really can't stand guys who leave they're wives for other women! Especially when they're younger and now he thinks he can start his life all over again and throw his other family away like nothing.

[@PokeMageTech]

*they’re

[@dianasnow4388]

Just shut up 😂

[@SS-kp7hw]

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[@bursegsardaukar]

You call that bad? Recently in China there is a case where a man threw his two very young children off a 15 storey apartment because the woman he has an affair with says the children is "an obstacle" to their new lives together.

[@specterman2000]

@@bursegsardaukarThere's going to be a special place in Hell for that guy!!!😈🔥🔥🔥

[@dannytheman1313]

There's no justification for killing a baby but I get the anger behind it, a do-over family with a new baby that kid was being pushed aside and in time would have been forgotten all together. Maybe card on his birthday or rushed phone call on christmas before being cast aside.

[@shania9305]

Justification? No ofc not but I completely understand his irrational teen boy anger. I blame the father.

[@khotunkhan3950]

I will blame him and I will keep on blaming him You don't kill a baby Gtfo

[@simshengvue4642]

Babies die in the US at the tune of a million a year. We call that a woman’s choice instead

[@user-lt1jd1ye3v]

I blame the boy but his fathers a cad

[@wessltov]

Funny how they essentially put the caretaker on trial for buying something that's toxic to babies a day before the baby died. This is why you don't speak without a lawyer present

[@missyTL]

When his mother started crying she knew he did something horrible .... 😢😢😢

[@prissylily25]

I absolutely love Jack McCoy!!! He’s excellent! “You owe me” !!! Whew!

[@cb8953]

"What were their names?" ...i....I don't know... "You must have been tight" I lover her line delivery. I chuckle every time I hear it

[@aspenrebel]

I thought she was gonna say the game was rained out.

[@cmereves]

So far I’ve spotted four Greys anatomy characters in this show, two of them in the same episode. Dr Hahn and Meredith were in the same episode, one playing the sole survivor of a family murder and the other being a defense attorney (I think that’s what she was), Callie playing the mom of a child murderer, and in this episode doctor Altman being the mother of a child that got murdered. It’s so fun to spot them and see them play different but similar roles!

[@tatortottv4605]

You forget Dr Bailey being an FBI agent and a younger child in the early 90s law and order. As well as a nurse in the hospital lol

[@comingupooo]

They realized that the kid was the real killer, then continued the case against the nanny anyway. Can you say "Rule 11"?

[@colleenodriscoll8914]

To be fair, the nanny heard the baby making unusual sounds and barfing and didn’t even bother to check up on him. If she hadn’t slacked off at her job, the baby might still be alive.

[@Jerzey_grl]

​@@colleenodriscoll8914could happen to anyone. The mom wasn't exactly present.

[@elfin1499]

Nah. That au pair should be sued for negligence. Had she checked on the baby, who knows, he may have lived. And I absolutely cannot stand her smirking after she realized the kid was the murderer. Like you weren't one of the contributing factors🙄

[@BTURNER1961]

There's a problem here. there is no way on earth a judge is going to engage a minor who may be in the process of self incrimination to a first degree murder charge, without appointed counsel present. The judge will refrain from allowing anyone to question this boy. This judge, standing in a room full of attorneys, asks a minor if he wants a lawyer. The minor says " what's a lawyer gonna do...?' and then they continue to question this minor based on that? They do not even pin him down to refusing counsel.

[@welkinalauda]

Not to mention, the child's guardian was in the courtroom and wasn't invited into the judge's chambers where the judge elicited a confession from the child? But I guess the writers hadn't left themselves enough running time for all that legality...

[@throckwoddle]

Another hole is that the nanny theoretically could have bought a replacement bottle of pesticide for one which just ran out (that the boy saw earlier). Nothing the kid is saying in chambers will be used against him in court, so there's no need for an attorney. He said enough while sworn on the stand for them to start making a case against him. The judge is likely questioning him so that she has sufficient grounds to dismiss the case against the nanny, and thus free the nanny.

[@aspenrebel]

And his mother present.

[@aspenrebel]

Yes but does a minor have the legal and mental capacity to refuse an attorney? The maturity?

[@judythui9782]

The nanny acting was great!!

[@grlnexdoorable]

😂

[@liliaalvarado7040]

I loved how the prosecutor gave the trial to the defence lawyer. When the prosecutor saw the conflicting evidence they knew. And to just set it up so that the defense lawyer either let her adult client go to jail, or to have the teenager with a murder charge, you don't see that.

[@wilsonfilms7641]

This episode still makes my heart race to this day😦The ENDING STILL GAVE ME A SHOCK FINDING OUT WHO THE KILLER WAS THE SON THE WHO TIME ALMOST LIKE FINDING 🪡 ON A HAYSTACK AND THE FEMALE LAWYER WAS WOW EXECELENT

[@wilsonfilms7641]

SHE WAS LIKE SAUL GOODMAN BEFORE THERE WAS BREAKING BAD

[@HeronCoyote1234]

Tye actor playing the defense attorney is Patty Lupone. She’s not only a great actress, she’s a Broadway superstar. I saw her in Evita back in the 80s. Powerful voice.

[@lindawilson290]

@@HeronCoyote1234 She also played the Mom in the TV series "Life Goes On."

[@HeronCoyote1234]

@@lindawilson290 I loved that show.

[@wilsonfilms7641]

@@HeronCoyote1234 right she can play real good lawyer she can be the judge the jury the executioner when makes either the plantiff or defendant talk the scene when she pushes the mother gave me a clap on the hands saying bravo👏

[@julianblackthorn903]

The dad shld have been punished for abandoning his wife of 24yrs for a younger woman and neglecting his family. But i guess in a way he is punished now . He lost both his sons now horribly.

[@YeshuaKingMessiah]

That slighted brother is a psycho Simply a killer

[@RLplusabunchofdumbnumbers]

Loooooooved Patti Lupone on L&O.

[@asecretone]

Back when au pairs were all the rage.

[@juliantapia1407]

Like that ABC family movie

[@missladyanonymity]

Huh?

[@dessy0713]

​@@missladyanonymity it's like a nanny meets foreign exchange student

[@aspenrebel]

Ummm!! Like Newton, Massachusetts au pair murder case. Young English gal au pair. Mother and father both doctors, had 2 boys. The youngest was "slow". Boy found unresponsive, later died in hospital. English gal put on trial for his murder. Big show case. She was found guilty sentenced to life. That was changed to something lesser and she was shipped back to England. She can never come to the US again. But I think the mother doctor killed her own little boy. I think she cracked the boy's skull, then handed him off to the au pair early in the morning. Then later on they allowed her to visit with her little boy in the hospital. I think she finished him off in the hospital. She is a very arrogant and narcissistic woman. Believing, she was perfect with a perfect husband and a perfect marriage and a perfect life. So she could only have perfect children. The little boy wasn't perfect, so she killed him. Very soon afterwards she got pregnant again and had a new baby. So little dead boy was easily replaced. But no one ever explored this possibility. Corrupt Newton police detective was sitting right next to mother every day in courtroom (as an intimidation to au pair. When have you ever seen that?). I think she paid him off. He wouldn't do anything like that all day everyday unless he was getting paid big bucks. Paid off the Newton Police, paid off the district attorney (who was corrupt), paid off the judge. That is why, despite the fact the au pair was found guilty of murder and faced life in prison, they changed it to something lesser and just got her out of the country. That way, later on, under appeal or new trial or investigasian, the possibility that the mother killed the little boy wouldn't come up. The English. Girl wouldn't be here in the US to speak up. The mother was and is in the clear. It was a bizarre case in court. The judge was acting weird, DA was acting weird. Clearly the whole thing was scripted. If I had been on the jury, I would have voted not guilty and hung the jury.

[@user-lt1jd1ye3v]

It’s so easy to blame the “extra” person in the baby’s life and not the very-possibly guilty parents

[@Ray_Shabaz]

Cain and Abel. So instead of taking it out on his father, he took it out on the baby. Pathetic

[@pelu101]

Well from a certain point of view he did take out on his father, he destroyed his father’s new family by killing their newborn

[@Ray_Shabaz]

@@pelu101 he did hurt him, but it's not gonna teach the father anything. It's better that you lash out at the father rather than going somewhere to where he can never see you again

[@AntoinettexKitten]

It makes it hurt the father more

[@anikabeauty547]

Divorce is a cruel thing to put kids through. I am so fortunate that my half siblings were adults by the time I was born. Who knows what kind of jealously could have brewed? The dad is partly to blame. Men like to forget about their past relationships real quick. Women too. And the kids are the ones who pay.

[@keithfrew6034]

It’s not always like that

[@voniarichardson7945]

Look at Meghan Markle, her half siblings came out of the woodwork to make money off her relationship. Sad part is their own mother has said “that both siblings (her own children), were and still are jealous of Meghan, and her sis even claimed she wasn’t her sister, but the maid’s kid.”

[@SamuraiGirl02]

Divorce is tough. But what makes it cruel is how the parents do it

[@weebpotato2366]

Why would one be jealous? I would never intended to kill my siblings if a divorce happened. The kid was unhinged

[@anikabeauty547]

@@SamuraiGirl02 agreed 👍🏾

[@geinikan1kan]

That has to be the most sarcastic TV doctor I’ve ever seen.

[@marianaguardiaa.k.amariana4780]

Nobody can hide a poision, not even the most brilliant killer

[@Gumbier_Than]

But could any substance in abundance become a poison?

[@gabelogan5877]

I think the son hid the poison there to frame the nanny

[@marianaguardiaa.k.amariana4780]

@@gabelogan5877 Yep, for that

[@gabelogan5877]

@@marianaguardiaa.k.amariana4780 I almost feel bad for the kid. He was so messed up. He's Dad got a new family and totally ditched him. He's going to have to live with the fact that he played a part in this death

[@marianaguardiaa.k.amariana4780]

@@gabelogan5877 Yeep and it also made feel fury and shame

[@ftd888]

So … why would his mother let him speak to the ADAs? Since he’s a minor, and she was present, she could (and surely would) have stopped that final conversation from happening.

[@WarGrowlmon18]

I'm not sure Mommy Dearest wanted to intervene.

[@KajunMs39]

It's a movie😅😅😅😅

[@raechelcleberg8854]

I can't imagine killing my own sibling, especially a baby, but if an impressionable teen gets enough poison dripped in his ear... Scary.

[@SY-ok2dq]

But this was the boy's half-sibling and a baby - it's not like this boy, who is by this time what 15, 16?, had grown up with his sibling. On the contrary, the baby was this new addition to a new family which had displaced the boy's own family. This was the baby born to another woman who, in the boy's mind, had caused his mother to be tossed out (and the boy too). His father was now giving all his attention to this baby and his new wife - and forgetting his first son. The boy could see how he was fading into insignificance. What had been his role was now taken by this new baby, thr product of a new relationship that had destroyed the boy's family home. Obviously he's going to feel anger and it's not hard to see why it settled upon the baby. To the boy, it was just this perpetually crying thing that didn't have a personality, you couldn't have a conversation with it, it cried a lot, ate, slept and soiled its diapers. In fact, it would be harder to understand the boy killing an older child, a child he's had several years of getting to know and could talk to, and had developed some sort of relationship with.

[@raechelcleberg8854]

I do understand what you're saying. The mind is a scary thing.@@SY-ok2dq

[@Matthew-eg9zs]

@@SY-ok2dqsad justifying it but it’s absolutely correct. The baby had no relationship or significance to him

[@bombvoyage5686]

@@Matthew-eg9zsnot to mention the baby represents him being replaced and totally removed from his fathers life. Hell at the end the boy says his father forgot to do their father son Mets game, thus he probably was sparked by this and decided to burn his fathers new family if he couldn’t have his whole family. On top of that powder keg his mother unknowingly stoked that hatred and resentment with her off screen scorned anger over being replaced with a new model.

[@Lalaland666-k3x]

@@SY-ok2dqyou know what I say to that? Boo hoo, your parents divorce, dad has a new relationship, has a kid, you don’t kill someone when they’re innocent in a situation, that’s stupid

[@leefriedman3067]

not that this happens often but this was an easy person (the brother) to cross examine

[@sabrinaservance7248]

"you guys must be tight" 😂😂😂😂

[@babydeliz62]

They really need to out the earlier episodes on peacock. I really don't understand why they aren't. Those were the best seasons

[@MrJazminbaker]

This is what’s caused by multi family homes where a father truly believes he can be there for numerous kids …. Nick cannon

[@julesmasseffectmusic]

Nah the pr9blem is the kid was raised in the USA. Killing l8ving children is their national past time.

[@TheBatugan77]

Oh bullshit. Be quiet.

[@user-lt1jd1ye3v]

It is what happens because what Nick cannon is doing is unnatural

[@MikeMJPMUNCH]

I thought this has to be based on the Louise Woodward case yet this epsiode came out before that case, this a horribly prophetic episode.

[@BiggusPuggus]

just like the titanic

[@KatIstEmo]

In the Louise Woodward case, it was realized years later that Matthew didn't die of SBS (shaken baby syndrome) but of medical complications he had prior to Louise's stay in their home.

[@BiggusPuggus]

@@KatIstEmo was it the anti freeze medical thing?

[@b.radleypro.369]

A man who leaves his family for another shouldn’t be a parent especially when you never know how your first child will react to the half sibling. (Not necessarily kill them for a ballgame) but blame them for leaving.

[@fjp5775]

Same goes for a woman that leaves her family. End the double standards.

[@lindakachona7500]

Why did he leave????

[@jaypowell7899]

I'm reading comments like: "I loved the regret dawning on his mother’s face when she realized what he’d done. She was so focused on stoking the flames of her hatred that she lit her own son’s hatred" and "A baby lost it’s life because of the boy’s jealousy". Hmm. The mother was righteously angry on her and her son's behalf and the son is very young and his brain is not yet fully formed. They each bear guilt. But the father's may be greatest and the young new wife isn't clear either. Dont take marriage vows, throw the family overboard and start again without expecting consequences. The father's guilt is equal to the son's and the new wife's guilt is as great as the old wife.

[@dramamamaof2]

Ironic thing is if the boy kept his mouth shut he may never have been found out

[@ariannawilson4536]

I read the comments and I truly saw the cruelty of humans. Callin' killing a baby a good favor? WOW! Guess who won best 'human' of the year? smh.

[@markjones1184]

I'm trying to place what show I've seen that female lawyer on. I see its apparently Patti Lupone, but I don't recognize names of shows she's credited with

[@lemmylousmommy6616]

She played the mother in the show Life Goes On. She also was in Coven for American horror story

[@in_vino_veritas7938]

Married with children, the show. That's where I recognized her from

[@marymitchell8625]

the original Evita on Broadway

[@foodiesworldUSA]

Kim Raver from grey’s anatomy in brunette hair is working for her

[@Sasquasy2463]

I scrolled for this! lol Shot out to Dr. Altman

[@GenerallyTyler]

Yellow Diamond being a solid lawyer.

[@shania9305]

I blame the father

[@jimthegatormantwopoint0]

The blood of Evan rests on his hands.

[@yemaya_la22]

Wow its always a womans fault, it's always the moms fault. HE forgot his child, HE ignored his son, HE left his family, leaving the wife makes sense, but leaving your son too, absolutely not. Edit: there is no justification of this, he did feel like Evan was replacing him, but taking his life was horrible and worse pinning it on the Nanny.

[@fieryyred]

It took me a while to figure it out but the second wife/stepmom is Teddy from Greys anatomy. The black hair was throwing me off at first .

[@jayhawkgirl6289]

She also played Kim in third watch

[@FeePhyFoPhum]

These episodes were the best. Too bad they’re not available on Peacock like Seasons 13-22.

[@HoldenNY22]

Wouldn't they have immediately read him his Miranda Rights? I was just thinking of the end Courtroom Scene between Jack Nicolson and Tom Cruise in A Few Good Men.

[@enoubong7971]

Another terrible repercussion of polygamy and lack of discipline /discontentment many men use to destroy so much🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

[@jadestarletia]

A child killing another child is just sad. Especially for a reason like this. My dad left the family when I was twelve then moved halfway across the country to be with my stepmother. He treats my stepbrother like crud as well as me and other people, including my mom! I would NEVER harm any kids my mom or dad would have with someone else. If my dad and stepmother had a kid or kids together, I would be extremely worried about them because I don't want my half-sibling to grow up like my dad and/or be treated like crud the way my dad treats me and my stepbrother and, when they were married, my mom, whom he still tries to control even after nearly FOURTEEN YEARS of divorce! My dad treats my brother a little better than me, probably because he's a guy and fortunately, my brother knows better than to act like our father and cares about me and the rest of our family and is a good person.

[@missyTL]

This was Law and Order in the 90's... Benjamin Bratt ....❤❤❤❤ my mom loves him.. ❤❤❤😅😅

[@karanhdream]

This kid did something truly awful but he's also a victim. A victim of his mother's resentment and a victim of his father's selfishness. My father did the same thing. He forgot everything and wanted me to pretend my whole life before he left my mother never existed. It's... a kind of pain hard to describe and it breeds a powerful hatred.

[@tbam73]

Patti Lupone should had more cameos.

[@CC-si3cr]

had = have

[@Trishula707]

What the kid did was wrong but I put all the blame on the father. The father basically had been trying to abandon him. So you shouldn’t be surprised that this would happen or something like this

[@TheKrispyfort]

As a first child with several known younger "half" siblings, I get ropeable when parents try to put a wedge between siblings to soothe their own bruised ego. Older siblings refusing to offer love and kindness to younger siblings out of bitter resentment because the common parent is doing a better parenting job with the new child than they did with the older children breaks my heart. I like that my parents seemed to do better with my much younger siblings, and I LOVE that my fmr spouse is treating his second wife and their bundle of bubbly adorable with much more consideration and respect than what I received as a wife and mother. They'd all had a good twenty years of parenting under their belts when the Littles came about. They'd bloody well want to have improved their skills, knowledge, and selves. I'm glad my eldest thinks his babiest of baby siblings is adorable My recently passed away Nanna taught me that there's no such thing as former family. She considered my younger siblings just as much her grandchildren as I was

[@teneesh3376]

Is anyone gonna talk about how aggressive the cops were to the babysitter? I mean they are suppose to prevent crime. Do they really think treating everyone like a criminal is the way to go?

[@Picassostrash]

It’s a tv show…

[@SnowsStorm1]

Dennis parlato is an excellent actor. Good to look back on his talent.

[@ThatCanadianGamer01]

Not me screaming "plead the 5th" while the kid was being cross examined. Buddy was incriminating himself on the stand

[@miranda13c]

1:55 Woah Teddy Altman from Grey’s Anatomy, with dark hair!

[@vinceedwards3978]

This was a great early episode! Hard subject matter

[@BladeWinters]

What did McCoy whisper to the defense attorney?

[@michaelleary9233]

"You owe me", cause he showed the kid was lying.

[@larapalma3744]

Yes I had to back track too LOL

[@miagrass]

​@@michaelleary9233 so what the boy got away with killing a baby

[@michaelleary9233]

@@miagrass Yeah. He hated that his father had a new son who probably wouldn't have had it any better, cause his father wasn't going to change.

[@miagrass]

@@michaelleary9233 that bs yes the nanny is at fault but the son is the cause of this awhole mess he should be put behind bars he didn't accidentally he deliberately kill the baby wtf type of government justice is this we pay tax for bs.

[@RLucas3000]

Things to consider: 1) the kid never would have been caught if he hadn’t volunteered this new info. As the murderer, he would have laid low. Doesn’t make a lot of sense. 2) considering those diary entrees, maybe the au pare was going to kill the baby, the teen just beat her to it? 3) Women in prison really don’t like baby killers. I’m surprised the au pare wasn’t killed in prison. 4) it is a tragic and sad situation. Maybe the cops should leave the teen alone in the room with the poison evidence bottle for a few minutes. His life for the baby’s life, both at his hand, would be more just than him being gang raped every day in prison for 40 years.

[@JohnM-sw4sc]

Women are almost never killed in prison

[@franzbeatlegirl]

If his father was so detached from him, why would he have a key to his house?

[@oddeyesrebellion923]

When the father found out his first son did it. He said this to him. "You son of a... I'll break your neck." My reaction to is "wow." He is just as responsible for this mess cause he played favortism that he forgot he was his son too.

[@fizzao1342]

It's obvious what the case was based on.

[@sistakia33]

This episode made me realize that no matter how I felt about my ex I should always be respectful in front of the children. 😢

[@Sifirela]

At the beginning when the actor picked up the ‘baby’ which was a doll, he hit the doll’s head on the mobile lol.

[@unclejoker9975]

Perhaps, if the mom wasn't deadset on pushing that the baby was less than a brother, he'd still be alive.

[@vallee7966]

Hurt people hurt people.

[@thebeautifulrose294]

I love this show and I gotta say this is so sad

[@Liztastaney7]

The fact that his own lawyer made him take the stand n do him in.

[@huskerjpg]

I don't like Patti Lupone's politics, but she's a heck of a singer and a good actress.

[@dantependragon9895]

I’m seeing a lot of comments lambasting the father (for neglecting his first child) and the mother (for being overly critical about her ex-husband’s new marriage) but honestly, I hold that teen responsible for what he did. At any point, he could have talked to, even raged at, his father for neglecting him, or even just chose to move on and make a great life for himself and his mother. Instead, he chose to take all his anger and resentment out on someone who had nothing to do with the problem. He was even willing to throw an innocent woman under the train to save his own skin. And before people try to get on my case, when my parents divorced, I dealt with both of them finding a new partner and starting new lives. Never once, when I felt like I was being forgotten, did I do something as dumb as this kid. It was either talking to them, or ignoring them until they would talk to me. And I was not even a teen when it happened, so this one has no real excuse for what he did.

[@SamAsm367]

Nope. Not without a parent and an attorney present. Hell of a thing when the prosecutor & defense attorney collude to throw you under the bus.

[@ASMRGEMSANDDIAMONDS-fh4bi]

I love this show

[@joanogbue5124]

When he came in and said his half-brother was dead and when the detectives asked him if he was close to his father? he replied they were close sometimes. That was when he gave himself away. His father did not call him or tell him his half-brother was dead. He already knew because he committed the crime.

[@marthawoodworth]

Patti Lupone rules! It's fun to see her here; one of the most talented actresses of all time.

[@Susan-on3gc]

Divorce doesn’t equate with the murder of a baby, if he wants someone to blame blame and shout at the father, then tell him how your feeling, try to sort it out, he might be young and feeling pushed out but to poison a baby and then encourage the blame on the nanny that’s not normal behaviour. That’s not ‘oh but he’s young’ or ‘ he doesn’t know to process the divorce’ , ‘ he’s feeling pushed out’ he has a mother totally to himself and has to share a father with 1 other child, not exactly being abandoned or unloved.

[@cadenboissineau4604]

"Can i go see my son he knows me." Doc: yeah just give me a minute. not even a few seconds later: "Babys dead."

[@WarGrowlmon18]

"Yeah it's terrible" says the kid without seeming to much care.

[@SusanHukel-rm4lg]

This is a case where both sons were victims of all the adults in their life.the bio mother,the father,the stepmother and the au pair.incredibly tragic in every way.

[@Maw_man]

Funny that it's not his decision not to have a lawyer. He's a minor so the state would have to appoint him one regardless.

[@thickymcghee7681]

I like how the prosecution told him, "dont worry we will only bring it up if we have to." then....tell the defense secretly and afterwards charge him for Murder. Hahahaha

[@DanielFlores-dh4zv]

9:28, wow does anyone else think the counselor sounded exactly like Vivien from The Fresh Prince? Also, Ben sounds just like Hawk/Eli from Cobra Kai.

[@Tricieee94]

What episode is this ? It’s not season 6 episode 22 like it says on the caption.

[@bee75]

yeah, it is. Season 6, episode 22, from the original L&O

[@TheKrispyfort]

Parental Alienation is not a child custody issue. Parental Alienation is a child safety issue.

[@almirazafira38]

Everyone blaming mother but what about dad who used a charming woman made her mother and when she lost her charm under the responsibilities of his son,he threw her out like an old furniture and brought a new chick and started the life from the beginning... atleast he could have not forgotten the responsibilities of his first family, children's with disturbed childhood often end up in some mental issues just like the boy😢😢😢

[@KnightMysterio]

"You owe me." Say Jack, what's your client doing *under the bus?*

[@Kels42]

Isn’t lying under oath on the stand a literal crime.