ITALIAN TANK DESTROYER TECH TREE - World of Tanks

[@beefjiggler5665]

Wow, a hulldown, impenetrable, brawling tech tree. Finally something new that we haven’t seen before.

[@buckets_full_of_bacon3821]

Aren't there a lot of tech trees like this? I know you are sarcastic hehehehe

[@phipschi4255]

@@buckets_full_of_bacon3821 they got us in the first half, ngl

[@paveantelic7876]

is honestly anyone surprised? it's the current meta so naturally they will play into it

[@Thot-Slayer-420]

without weekpoints

[@phipschi4255]

@@Thot-Slayer-420 well it has a weakpoint. a very small one you can only hit when the tank is not using gun depression lol

[@koltonkorzan1750]

I would probably think of it as a single shot gun with 530 alpha and only 8 second reload, and then have to go on "cooldown", instead of an autoloader

[@botzachary9891]

also imagine the exact same tank but with a short intraclip and a long reload that would keep the same rate of fire. currently you have a shell in the magazine for 32 seconds and are empty for 24. if it had a 3 second intraclip then it would have a shell available for 12 seconds and be empty for 46, making you far more vulnerable (though you are much more bursty).

[@zanwrightmfwr756]

@@botzachary9891 We already have that Bursty tank. It's called the Waffentrager E100. We all know what happens to tanks like those.

[@zanwrightmfwr756]

I SPOKE TOO SOON OH NO

[@Benutzername-rs8wr]

The tier 5 and tier 6 have the best moving camo value for non light tanks in the game (tier 5+). Can´t be underestimated

[@phipschi4255]

The tier six also has a nasty durp gun! I think its gonna be a fan favorite

[@junyutan2172]

@@phipschi4255 way better gun arc and depression than the 102 too so might be more flexible that way to

[@Paciat]

Can be. Just look at JPIV or reward StugIV.

[@viktorkools2909]

@@phipschi4255 yeah with like 4k dpm with 100mm pen which is disgusting at tier 6

[@viktorkools2909]

Especially when u get brothers in arms with a gun rammer vents and premium consumable

[@wolfaja755]

I’ve played against some of these in game recently and they are really good. I seen one hold an entire flank by themselves for 4 minutes while my entire team couldn’t do hardly any damage to them. I think they’re cool tanks but some of them are a little strong tier for tier.

[@moo8698]

if your ENTIRE TEAM can't do any damage to a tank sitting all alone on a flank (you said all this), then your team was the worst team in the existence of this game. Has nothing to do with a tank. Even if I play on a flank 1v1 against a whatever tank with my whatever tank, I'll at least almost finish it off if it was the best player in the game. It's all rng and basic knowledge. Or if the situation wants me, I'll not engage and fall back to a more favorable position where I can get help. But your story is bs and nonsense.

[@TheLtVoss]

@@moo8698 mhm withe the general brain daedness in Random I would say it is possible especially with a corridor map

[@zanwrightmfwr756]

I want them to nerf the armor a bit. Or just enlarge the cupola's to avoid this being the next Kranvagn. Other than that, I am looking forward to this tank tree for the autoloader. It feels like the autoloader in WT where you reload slightly faster, not 2 seconds between shells.

[@justabingbong]

WG always release new tech tree tanks stronger than older tech tree tanks, so people use free xp to unlock them imminently, and nerf them when everyone had it in their garage, just like what they did to Kranvagn, obj268v4, Progetto, or type5 heavy

[@Ghostpanzer]

This tech tree tank gives you the ability to push , but can easily be surrounded and easily killed with poor gun handling and arc

[@moo8698]

Plenty of tanks in the game are unpenetrable in a particular situation. So we should nerf them? No offense, but you guys are commentating as you play. With tunnel vision. You're not locked to sit in front of a tank. + the tank you play is just a small portion of what you or someone else can do. I have a higher average on the "worst" t10 tank, than most of the players have with the "op" ones -.- Ghostpanzer gave you a close to perfect answer. If you ever played an E3 or a V4 against an average player you would realize it's not as easy to play to just sit there. You can annihilate anything in no time. In some cases when I realize lately that I can't play that exact place where I play, I move away even if I take some damage to get away. Dakillzor did a laughable experiment too. Locked every tank in place, and ordered the people to shoot the turret only and not the cupola.. -.- I have never in my life taken a shot on a tank above looking down on me if it was something like a kran, chief or whatever.. 99.99999% of the time because it wasn't the case. If it happens, then I did play awful! Or my team played awful and we died in 2 mins anyway.. That happens more often. But in that case, it doesn't matter if it is an Italian td, a Japanese heavy, a soviet med, or whatever. This game is very simple. The hard part is how to play with your team against the opposing team.

[@zanwrightmfwr756]

@@justabingbong I wasn't upset that Progetto was nerfed after it was being OP, I think that's a healthy change. I'm a firm believer that they really should do change the OP premiums accordingly as well. Too bad the fanbase are braindead and would sue WG for nerfing premiums and WG is too much of a coward to lose 15% revenue just because some wallet warrior retard doesn't like the changes.

[@zanwrightmfwr756]

@@moo8698 The E3 and V4 are hull locked gun tanks with a weakpoint. A 250mm+ weakpoint but a weakpoint nonetheless. On another case, the Badger has a small gun arc and turns slowly so it can't engage as efficiently when being flanked on two sides. Good luck if you're stuck in a corner and my 350mm beast is locking you with my allies behind my back while I can damage you more than a Kranvagn does on a hill. Even if you do manage to flank me, I can turn my gun and track you much more often than a Badger in 24 seconds time. Imagine a Badger but now that Badger has a 90° vision. Or imagine an E4 but it has E3 armor. I'm not saying that "Hurr Durr I can't pen this tank so it must be OP" E3 and Badger is considered balanced because they're too inflexible but does their job as a wall expertly. Type 5 and Maus has a ton of HP and Armor, but they have a large profile. Even the V4, which is currently argued to be the most broken TD in the game, has a slow turning rate, small gun arc and no gun depression. Minotaur here is anything but. It does the job better and it's very flexible. I can't prove it yet, but we'll see in 2 months time. I'm willing to bet that this tank will have the highest avg winrate of any TD in the game. Exactly, the hardest thing is to cooperate with your team. Thing is, how much effort do your team have to do against this specific tank? The chieftain is infamous for being the hardest tank to play against because the amount of effort required to take it down. It's difficult be penned on a good position, it does above average damage and it has above average mobility. Kranvagn and Skoda, which people said needs to be nerfed, has good gun, good armor and excellent mobility. The amount of effort to take down a Skoda is much more than the effort to take down a similar tank for example a 277 or an IS7. Tanks with high amounts of effort to take down becomes a stalemate. It becomes a game of who can exploit someone's mistake first. This is the reason why most games nowadays ends on a 0-15 wins. Once you are down 2-3 tanks, it's hard to come back up. Not impossible, but difficult.

[@jonsmith9617]

Oto Melara make good guns. We had their 76mm on my FFG Oliver Hazard Perry class. Was fun to shoot, kept one of the spent shells as a umbrella/cane holder.

[@warkus123]

22:55 I think it's gonna be both boring to play and to meet. Honestly. It's one of those tanks that if you see it on a ridgeline you either rush it and risk dieing to his friends or you just drive to another place because trying to pen it with such rediculous armor and tiny weak spots is just pointless, really.

[@ryokajimosensei2780]

This new tank single handedly made the Jagdpanzer E-100 HEAT round look like regular ammo.

[@Shrike58]

Arty is going to be your friend against these things....I plan to play these tanks but I think that they might be very vulnerable on top.

[@markdouglas485]

You mean all the nerfed arties that cannot dig out hull down turreted monsters?

[@Ima9ineBreak3r]

Looking at the armor and guns on these things, I don’t understand how they will be fun to play with or against. Pushing into them is going to be super hard because of their amazing hull armor, and their low DPM and speed means they won’t necessarily be able to be super aggressive either. Therefore, they’re just gonna sit back and wait for people to push into them. Because, you know, that’s what the game needs. More camping. This just looks like a poorly designed branch to me.

[@youlaughyouphill842]

They are fun to play lmao, legit an e3 but better

[@sunkingozy5051]

they are not so slow. You can oush with them just like you can push with an IS-4

[@IonKattTMCE]

2839 DPM isn’t that low

[@zanwrightmfwr756]

Yea, armor needs to be nerfed a bit. Even E3 kept the weakpoint. A 250+ mm weakpoint, but a weakpoint nonetheless. As for playing it, I'm looking forward to it. I'm a fan of autoloader/autoreloaders tanks. So a unique autoloader? Take my money.

[@zanwrightmfwr756]

I for one, don't take quicky's word like a goddamn bible. He's very helpful when breaking down the statistics, but I don't judge a tank just by it's firepower and mobility. I'd take a Maus, strip off all the firepower and mobility equipment and play as a literal bunker with 3500 HP and 90% resistance against SPG and HE shells. Quicky plays agressively and competitively, I play for memes, for fun.

[@eclairamisu2517]

I don't really get how the tier VII waiting 7 seconds to deal 320 dmg is supposed to be a step up from the tier VI waiting 8 seconds to deal 360 with clearly better penetration (even if one goes broke paying for it). I guess the boost to most of the other stats is making it clearly better but still...

[@nuolis]

armor is in different level what makes your tank lot better

[@LJChannn334]

The reactions of QB seeing the ludicrous turrets of Tier IX and X TDS are golden. lol #21:04 #21:32 #27:15

[@cherno8336]

uuuuot?

[@12LoLproductions]

It's pretty surprising how close the development is between WoT and WT, getting the Zrinyi I in WT and seeing the Italian SPG line open up in WoT

[@OrdinaryWorld]

I really enjoyed playing with this new autoloader mechanic on the test server. It sounded a little silly and pointless but the more I played with it, the more I found the groove. The greatest benefit is that it massively reduces the dilemma of undertaking a full reload on a partial magazine and is much more in tune with natural lulls in the battle, or when switching positions. The tier X worked really well for me and the interclip reload is much less than for other tanks with similar alpha, so you can still take advantage of a 2 or 3 round exchange burst. I found I often exchanged 2 for 1 and then reloaded unless I was pressured and needed the third. It also leaves your opponent unsure if you're on a full reload or just interclip.

[@slavikcrusader96]

if they would've made the "ears" at 22:23 an ACTUAL weakpoint, then it could be considered balanced to a degree otherwise, these tanks are just a joke and will ruin WoT as a whole

[@DisSabot]

I thought WoT is already a ruined game?

[@slavikcrusader96]

@@DisSabot it is, but there are some spots of the game that are fun if you are lucky, but this will ruin it more

[@Jallahz]

Can't wait to bounce 420 heat off of the tier X's cupola. Nice shit tank wargaming

[@xxstephxx1005]

Arty is gonna love these tanks

[@Jallahz]

They nerf kranvagn and add this shit instead lmao. What are they thinking

[@01MEGABOB]

@@Jallahz the same thing they’re thinking every single time they do this. Frankly the only surprising thing is that the community levels this response every time. Get used to it. It’s not going to change any time soon, if ever.

[@Jallahz]

@@01MEGABOB true, there's just a little hope that maybe they will actually listen to the community. But they will probably never

[@cfvgd]

@@Jallahz money. they are thinking money

[@franklinclinton4539]

Crazy to have tank destroyers with upgradeable turrets.

[@WassabiJoe]

Wait a sec, didn't americans do that a decade ago?

[@MissCelinax3]

Exactly what the game needs again.. 🤮 Nice Video ❤️

[@malcolmmorris3947]

who could have guessed, they are nerfing one of the best hull down tanks and simultaneously adding a new one.

[@PureZOOKS]

Remember when WG added Historical Tanks so they can add special one-offs without having to release a premium... and haven't added a single one? Remember when they were going to add premiums that could change their nation and train multiple crews..... and only released a single one?

[@Djmack1992]

I can already imagine seeing what these tier VIII’s, IX’s and X’s will do to the players using them.. They'll become overconfident and start pushing into the enemy because they can't be easily punished for it, then their team will move up with them and they'll all get caught out of position by the massive fleet of Bourrasque's that infest the game.

[@neilwilliams2907]

'Overmatching underflaps' is going to be my new favourite thing to do!

[@thesnazzycomet]

It’s so fun to do against that new object 780 at tier x, or the liberte

[@laszlokiss4409]

Italian TDs aiming down on top of a ridgeline: *It's over Anakin, i got the high ground!*

[@Endkeeper]

The tier V and VI actually existed and were used. so refreshing to see some Real tanks i WoT again, shame the rest were totally made up :/

[@jamieyang7589]

finally, a tank that will give chief's, obj 260 and 279(E) problems and prob the most used support tanks in CW.

[@slapafishJr]

Sees the tier 5 TD and immediately thinks GIRLS UND PANZER

[@itsgingervitis69]

"it was weird touching a mouse today for the first time" quite the statment out of context

[@lonemarkkingoftypos3722]

Iirc, he was on vacation with his wife. He even posted a pic in his twitter lol

[@couchpotato7628]

I think the turrets are actually slightly pointed downwards which means they have even more gun depression but to level the gun it has to use some of its gun elevation

[@ttpproductions]

At first I thought they would run away and probably break down, but looking at the tech tree better , I can say that wot made a very great decision to add another hull down , most likely impenetrable tanks to the game ***totally not being sarcastic***

[@lonemarkkingoftypos3722]

Funnily enough, the same very line is also coming to Blitz starting from Tier 5, some with autoloaders and some with Autoreloaders. the Tier 8 tech tree is also a rounded turret CC Mod 1964(tier 8 premoum one in PC). while the premium one is the CC Mod 1967(tier 8 tech tree one in PC).

[@minnesotarailfan12]

No, the premium in PC is the SMV CC64 Vipera. It’s significantly different visually from the tier 8 tech tree one in Blitz, the Contracarro mod. 1964. Afaik every tank is getting an autoreloader from tier 7 onwards- none with straight up autoloaders. And there is no evidence the CC mod 1967 is going to be the premium on Blitz.

[@lonemarkkingoftypos3722]

@@minnesotarailfan12 i did a bit of comparison on the CC mod 1964. And it mostly retained the hull, maybe except the upper plate. And rather than a "boxy" turret, the blitz one looked more like it has a large progetto 65 turret. It was speculated(or maybe datamined) from "leakers" that the premium tank is gonna be the CC Mod. 1967

[@yourmaid4982]

"big" wot almost always use not fitting vehicle in tier 8 tech tree, and the tank that looks logical in tech tree becmoes premium. (examples are Lynx instead of EBR 75, Skoda T56, T8 prem progetto instead of P44, AMX M4 49 instead of 65t, Skoda 27 instead of TVP VTU, UDES instead of S1)

[@Shrike58]

That WG invokes an actual company (OTO Melara) suggests that these machines aren't total BS.

[@eclairamisu2517]

I'm no fan at all of the balancing of these new tanks by any means but I will be damned if I don't rush to research them to abuse that for myself. The tier VII and VIII seem vastly OP imo, they seem like a TS-5 with less DPM, far more consistent armor and smaller weakspots that can be hidden easier with the amazing gun depression. As long as the players and their team don't mess up badly it will be basically impossible to break through a flank with more than one of these on the side. While it's nice to see tech tree tanks that are able to compete with top of the line premium tanks, I don't like that we reached the point where tanks that would be decent at tier VIII or IX are placed a whole tier lower as if it doesn't matter to game balancing.

[@heroninja1125]

Well if you thought the tech tree tier 8 tank was op, the premium version has more armour, more shells in a clip and better intraclip.

[@gavinprime8154]

I’m still upset they didn’t nerf the upper plates or top weak points of these things.

[@wolvesunguarded4220]

if you go on tanks gg and go to the tier 10, and go to live armor model and vs the jageroo with 420 heat pen, frontally it still wont pen unless you hit a specific spot and if it uses its gun depression then it just wont pen lol

[@themomentchannel3498]

i definitely like how the speed and intra clip reload and the penetration are limited since it will balance the veichle a bit but i definitely don’t like how war gaming made the armor so flipping thick, the Kranvagn will look balanced compared to the tier 10 italian TD so i hope wg is going to nerf the armor of these monsters.

[@space3112]

It looks so modern, because as devs stated it was inspired by the MBT-70 from the late 60s and early 70s it is from the same Era as the cheiftain and even more advanced technologically, i dont know how to feel about that

[@VosperCDN]

Same as Kunze Panzer, those angled turret rings allow easier sighting dynamics when hulldown on the back of a ridgeline, as the turret is then flat to the horizon, mostly, instead of being angled backward as most tanks would in same position.

[@CusterUK1]

I love the tier 10. I ammo racked a Obj 279e from across the map on Malinovka, from full health. I don't think he was to pleased as he was still getting into position..lol

[@aquiluus357]

The magazine is a balancing act. Somewhat. It sits, shoots it’s 4 shells and then you can rush it. If it had that armor and autoreloader/single shot it would be undefeated.

[@godofdun]

I think the T9 is going to perform better in randoms as the 24s clip reload will feel less punishing than the 32 on the T10.

[@MrRez808]

I am concerned about these tank going into the game as is. It’s armour is waaaaayyyyy over tuned. It’s the Chieftain of TD’s

[@robinkhn2547]

what? No. The reason why the Chieftain is op is because of its speed. It is a heavy tank but has the mobility of a medium, and don't forget the 10 degrees of gun depression. The Italian TDs are slow af. It'd be better to compare it to the 279e, just that this tank has no lower plate. But regarding the upper plate and the turret, those tanks are very similar armor wise.

[@josephsinclair8564]

Nice to see you back Quicky. Glad you and Tanya had a great time. Your rocking the sun burn my friend..lol

[@HomoErectusOnUranus]

Player base: No more Chieftan! Wargaming: No, more Chieftan!

[@duvagr007]

So in order from tier 5 we have: The one that actually existed, Wide walk Musolini, derivative of a failed Korean war prototype, natural progression of the former, derivative of a failed MBT prototype, natural progression of the former. All of which, save the first two, are insanely OP in the armor department. As in better armor than a T95. While being faster too. Love the WG magic they call 'engineering'.

[@strategicmind2652]

Honestly if you look up Italian TD's the biggest gun they ever mounted on a chassis was 120mm

[@JD-kg3mx]

The Italian tank line needed the TD’s. Several of the meds and hvy’s got bullied by several lines and got tough to play. I hope this is the balance I’m waiting for. Played the Tier 10 on the test server but didn’t give a really great picture because everybody was playing it. Still, it seems like it’ll be a lot of fun once I get a lot of games under my belt.

[@spencerhansen2927]

I think the 7 sec intra clip is going to be good against crews without repairs, but awful if the opponent has any buff to their repair speed

[@hohuynhquocchuong4925]

Short clip reload long intra-clip => less painful from damaged ammo or injured loader but also less benefit from vent and premium consumable, also, no gun rammer

[@danielfeinour9611]

Personally, I'm very excited for this tech tree. Years ago, I posted on the forums about the importance of having an Italian tech tree. When Wargaming added it several years ago, I was beyond excited. Now that the TDs are arriving, it makes me happy that they're fleshing out the ideas. I agree with QB that tier 7 - 10 will be monsters, but you know what... I'm here for it. Whether I'm losing against them, or finding ways to beat them, I'm excited to see what they can do. The same goes for the tier 5 and 6, just because I like the World War II era vehicles. Now, there are two things that I hope Wargaming incorporates. First, the Semovente 90/53, for any of my fellow R.U.S.E fans. I hope that Wargaming incorporates it into the game, perhaps as a tier 7 premium vehicle. It would have better DPM, camo, view range, and reload, however, worse armor. Historically, I think it was only about 30 mm in the front, maybe even 25. This would add more of a sniper Italian TD to the game rather than the hull-down brawlers that the line turns into. Second, they should include an Italian SPG line. To my knowledge, the Italians did create some SPGs based off of the design shared with the Semovente 41 (the tier 5 TD). Whether Wargaming decides to include them as a standalone, or maybe continue down their own line, remains to be seen. I really hope they do though, because it would be nice to get away from the main SPG lines that get a little stale from time to time.

[@GregorianMG]

Might as well add a gimmick that it would not stun the enemy, but it will shoot AP instead with high accuracy but long reload.

[@TumzunAGozi]

What you can certainly do against this Minotauro is to stun it with arty to delay the inevitable defeat.

[@gunsguns21]

Hey quickybaby! I know you tried playing WOTC in the past. But there has been some massive changes to the game and you should really get a compressive guide on it and your thought on WOTC coming from PC to see cold war Era tanks, mercenary tanks, multi weapon systems and MISSLES! Anyways love were pc is going looks great

[@Epro-hv1qi]

I bet he would love to play the Sturmtiger

[@thesnazzycomet]

True but the killed the game a while ago. I like the modern tech but when they changed the soundtrack, haven’t updated the sound effects in years and they’re still bland, and added all the crappy collabs it just spiralled downwards. Also the HUD is bland

[@gunsguns21]

@@thesnazzycomet when did you play last, there has updates after every season. No I understand though on the blandness. They probley want to keep it optimized for console the way it is mind you I have no idea cause I'm no coder it makes some sense to me. But I think it's always worth seeing what his 2 cents is at this point in time. It's been YEARS since he even just tried it and with how the game is developed I think he'd enjoy it. Cold war is the attraction of WOTC not it was merc tanks but they didn't play well with real and concept WW2 tanks but it's neat. And with cold war interducing missles in replacement of artys the game play is fun. But that IMO.

[@gunsguns21]

@@Epro-hv1qi oh yeah but think of quicky baby playing with missles lol he'd feel like a seal clubbers but love it

[@CrazyPanda688]

Wotc is garbage. Game died December 15th 2020 Cold War is also a failed game mode. Barely anyone plays it. So much so they had to add bots to the mode to prop up the population because the queue times are abysmal Nobody is interested in modern MBT’s that are all the same. The majority of players still play ww2

[@Direwolf13PS3]

Tier 6 has better camo than the E-25 and access to 230 pen with a sub 7 second reload. That's going to be a fun vehicle until it gets nerfed.

[@lukebedros674]

e25 has the old camo system where it doesnt lose as much camo after firing compared to all other tds. Thats what makes the e25 camo much more broken

[@santenz8460]

Basically E3 with 4k dpm for 5 shots with decent accuracy, good pen and great alpha, INSANE armor with good view range. The thing is literally better kranwagn in the hand of a good player

[@leosanchez101]

I despise arty but now I know they were made to farm tanks like this

[@jamesmardis376]

I’m world of tanks blitz there is a tank similar to these new Italian tds. It’s the t28 defender and it has good armor and a gun that is an auto loader with 6.7 intraclip reload but it has a longer magazine reload time. If I was to look at this new tank based on my experience playing that one then I believe the new tds will be very good at controlling engagements in their favor

[@davysauseslayer1294]

i was playing the test server and i decided to play my M 5 Y and i went to a spot that i could use my gun depression and a mino came over the ridge line and i just said nope and decided it would be better to 1v2 a couple of VZ 55s

[@syahareensharani6869]

Sure the only thing that can stop these TD is the HE but it got nerf because the players said that the HE is too broken ...

[@Hagurmert]

the tier 7 has no armor on its gun mantlet area, only 80mm thick spaced armor and 0mm armor behind. shoot there, not anywhere else if you cant see its lower plate. so basically to the left and right of the gun

[@hoineenietjij3331]

They are op, but I am just glad that it is a tech tree tank instead of a clan wars reward tank or something

[@arvidsasse165]

These tanks does indeed look interesting but, i don’t think that they will be meta just good tanks. I feel like they will get caught of guard. But that’s my guess

[@victorsowa6483]

Got the sunglasses tan… mustve been a good trip!

[@ajpinnataro7915]

I can't wait to get these TD's I hope they don't suck as bad as the heavys !

[@Paciat]

Im guessing those auto-loaders will be as horrible as on the rhino and worst than the t9 heavy. But the armor is better.

[@preslavplays6641]

6:00 it looks like a strumtiger combined with a stug to me

[@ParasiticAngel7651]

I think WG will probably nerf and buff some aspects of the TD line in time. I’m going to wait a few months to see what WG will do with them.

[@lankypanda1]

well gessing QB not going on test server to try these out but if he does really love him to play the tier 6 and 7 beings alot of people will be around there to start

[@zaksmeu4430]

We are getting this line on blitz soon in maybe 2 updates time , looking forward to it

[@jackmerrick9902]

“It was very weird touching a maus today for the first time” -tier 7 light tanks

[@njc964]

More over-armoured hull-down tanks. Wargaming’s creativity at its finest

[@strategicmind2652]

The bloom after shooting on the Minotauro is twice as bad as on the contracarro 1 mk2

[@soulserver127]

The other creators may have covered them but would rather wait for you to bring your video out! Thanks for the videos QuickyBaby!!!!

[@Taffer-bx7uc]

This is what they should have done for the Italian tech TD tech tree: Tier 2: Semovente L40 with 47/32, 47/40 Tier 3: Semovente M40 with 75/18, 75/32, 75/34 Tier 4: Semovente M43 with 105/25, 75/34, 75/46 Tier 5: Semovente da 90/53 Tier 6: Semovente da 120/44 That's all.

[@vojtechralis6075]

no higher tiers? Congratulations, you'd kill the game. Nobody would give a f about such update

[@landofsmo]

The Minotauro's bloom after firing is insanely bad. You'll have to sit there for the full aim time for any follow up shots

[@ogmechsftw]

the interclip is 8 seconds. it is not a problem

[@edelmann4388]

i have not played them on testserver and that is the mai point - still tests on testserver. lets hope wg uses the chance to rebalance some of the more freaking stats. what is a less good point on the tanks is the huge variety of guns which is - on the negative side - either a free xp drain or a longer grind to get the tanks fully researched. as a good point the variety gives more options. i think it will be worth to check the guns in the middle what they offer compared to the top guns in regards of accuracy, reloadtime and playstyle

[@kanekaiser63]

At this point, Wargaming should put up a sale for a tank for 1k. Best armor - 500 mm in front and best gun ever. However that tank sales lasts for 6 hours

[@Apremus]

Minotauro just seems like an objectively better E3 in any scenario, even on flat ground it perfectly matches the E3 frontally albeit ofcourse a very sketchy weakpoint behind 2 cuppolas. However in terrain, hills, around corners and anything other that isn't a straight flat line in a city the minotauro crushes E3. If we factor in that the minotauro ALSO has much much better mobility than the E3 to chase aggresive positions easily, well.. Yea it's a new chapter for assault TD's, nothing will hold a candle to this.

[@claudeb3673]

The thing i am worried about those is what happens if 2 of them fight each other on a ridge... neither will be able to do anything lol

[@Hermitmaster]

Another great video, thanks QB. Saves me figuring this stuff out!

[@marioalbertovazquezanaya1386]

Holly molly, did you enjoy my country QB?:D

[@marko2806]

you can better snipe in the italian heavy than in the td

[@level98bearhuntingarmor]

NGL I dont see why the Semovente is a tier V when the P26/40 is tier IV and has pretty much the same guns

[@WhiskyCardinalWes]

Heh, heh. My Italian butchers are already sharpening their knives. Got the free xp to jump right to tier 7. Nice.....

[@johnlekkas5957]

Btw qb the tier 10 is absolutely broken in the test server. The reload time is basically none existent and the frontal armour is godlike. The side is pretty bad though.

[@CrazyPanda688]

Didn’t look broken is Dez games video with that garbage intra clip reload. Enemy already is safe before you can shoot them again

[@MrBkatt]

I'm looking forward to these. I think they will be about as nasty as an E3.

[@TheBbills91]

only thing i have to say about this is that not all tanks are final and things can change.

[@Michael467012]

Better armour, penetration and DPM than the Italian heavy tank. Makes total sense.

[@HM-vo1jf]

I wonder if it's time for an update/remake of the PlayForFree best credit makers especially as the old ones were all derpy derpers and HE rework makes many of the previous best credit makers poop.

[@petehjr1]

got enough Italian blueprints to get right up to teir9 so Im good.

[@villelepoaho4105]

I just checked, and not even the Jg.Pz. E 100 can penetrate the tier 10 TD with it's HEAT shells when it's using it's gun depression.. That tank makes the Obj. 279 (e) look like a glass cannon. That's just silly.

[@lovelov321]

This thngs are really op. Cant W8 to see tier 8 tanks against italian tier10. Thats gonna be fun

[@robinkhn2547]

Those tanks are fine, the problem are that the maps are way too small and that most of them are just corridor maps. If the maps would be larger and better designed, then the weaknesses of those tanks (namely their poor speed) would be much more obvious and you could actually outplay them. But in terms of their armor, those are finally 'heavy' tanks which I can enjoy playing. Because currently playing tanks with thick armour like the E-100, Maus, Type 5 Heavy are just really annoying cos everyone just pens you so easily with their gold rounds, making those tanks kinda obsolete. Even in the current Arcade gamemode where the penetration is reduced by 20%, some HEAT rounds are still able to go through the Turrets of the aformentioned tanks fairly reliably. To now get a line where armor actually is useful, is great. Hopefully makes playing slow, but heavily armored vehicles fun again.

[@redred222]

this is the thing, the people that know how to play good will be good in, but remember only 5 percent of players have any real skill so running into those good of players will be rare, most people dont even know these days not to turn there heavys side ways, or drive out in front of 5 tanks, or shoot all he ammo that has no pin, and the main thing they dont understand hull down

[@ralts6464]

Even jag e100 heat can barely pen the t10 td using depression. And that heat is the highest pen

[@katernis]

Meanwhile *kranvagn listening to "hello darkness my old friend" in a corner* 🤣🤣🤣

[@Fionn1014]

Hopefully a lot of us are wrong and this tree won’t be broken, and will just fade into irrelevance like the Tornvagn

[@ΑλέξανδροςΧουιαζης]

The intra clip reload is like a normal reload

[@FlyLeah]

So, italian kranvagns?

[@sethcarter9833]

You’ll be able to fool people on ridgelines due to the fact that nobody will be able to count your shells in the magazine

[@ForcedToPay23]

Wargaming seriously just nerfed the Kran to then make another Kran but is impenetrable by 420 HEAT rounds. Nice job Wargaming

[@CrazyPanda688]

A Kranvagn doesn’t have 8 seconds intra clip thiugh If it did it would have been useless

[@markdouglas485]

Funny how they nerf the Kran and then come out with a super turreted new line. In no way could this be WG trying to squeeze out more short term profit at the expense of gameplay.

[@mohdamirul5338]

It will likebObj 268 V4 sheganigans, powerful when released but nerfed after 1-2 patches.

[@CrazyPanda688]

The v4 has speed too though, and it didn’t have 8 seconds intra clip, and it has much better peN Yes this tank has a shit tonne of armour but it can’t pen most of what it faces hull down like IS7’s and 260’s. They’ll laugh at your pathetic 345 heat pen

[@masterkaljami6822]

Kinda reminds me of the WTF E-100 except it has better armor and a lower inter clip reload.

[@malcolmmorris3947]

its almost the opposite of that monstrosity. great armour, great gun depression, front mounted turret, short clip reload, long intra-clip reload.

[@Soggaroth]

WG: We heard your cries and we will deliver a nerf hammer upon Kranvagn! Just to replace it with a tad bit slower and much more impenetratable line of tanks! I also did an overpowered build with all crew perks and purple equipement and let me tell you, that this is Obj 268/4 all over again... but better. With this build this monster of a tank with 300mm front armor can drive over 42km/h. Have fun playing against it.