Its a bit smaller than we expected... - Xiaomi 12s Ultra Camera Sensor Teardown!

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JerryRigEverything

JerryRigEverything

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@Enzi62
@Enzi62 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say that sensor is ‘smaller than expected’, I’d say it’s around average size, and probably has a great personality!
@uditanandsharma2744
@uditanandsharma2744 2 жыл бұрын
Well said✌
@Ragna___
@Ragna___ 2 жыл бұрын
But you can't take a pic with a great personality..
@carlosmercado6892
@carlosmercado6892 2 жыл бұрын
Very well done my good sir. Take your like lol I got a good chuckle out of this
@lazyreposter
@lazyreposter 2 жыл бұрын
i'd say its bigger than avg, like in certain places of the world
@markburkey6371
@markburkey6371 2 жыл бұрын
It's cold out...🥶
@basharb5215
@basharb5215 2 жыл бұрын
"they are being extremely generous with that ruler.. but I mean who hasn't" 💀🤣
@pauloceolin
@pauloceolin 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahah
@n00bm4str69
@n00bm4str69 2 жыл бұрын
If you know, you know👀
@ghausullah6433
@ghausullah6433 2 жыл бұрын
Idk, explain plz
@TechDove
@TechDove 2 жыл бұрын
@@ghausullah6433 talking about measuring your uh... 🌭
@kellenbasic
@kellenbasic 2 жыл бұрын
@@TechDove why would you need to mesurare a hot dog? why not just eat it? 🤨
@morottaja123
@morottaja123 2 жыл бұрын
Small camera sensor naming conventions are fairly insane. Small sensors are named after the dimensions of a hypothetical glass tube that would surround the sensor, as if they were a 1950's Vidicon tube. Typical 1" sensor size is actually 13.1 x 9.8mm.
@lorneserpa5888
@lorneserpa5888 2 жыл бұрын
Bingo. 100% correct.
@LandonSimmons31
@LandonSimmons31 2 жыл бұрын
Came here to say this. "1 inch" sensors aren't 1inch.
@kentpoon1218
@kentpoon1218 2 жыл бұрын
Finally one that knows what the 1" mean in camera world lol.
@kenmastersmaster
@kenmastersmaster 2 жыл бұрын
What sensors in 1950s didn't cameras just use film?
@xeon2k8
@xeon2k8 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure why people are repeating with different words what Jerry said on the video, maybe watch it until the end next time?
@ProjectPhysX
@ProjectPhysX 2 жыл бұрын
4:27 I think the periscope camera is really exciting tech. With that much zoom, you need optical stabilization, and how they did it here with moving the prism is really cool!
@mastergreyskull523
@mastergreyskull523 Жыл бұрын
And unlike samsung it has 60% larger pixel size
@saifapi9438
@saifapi9438 Жыл бұрын
There is a image sensor size chart, wher it clearly says that 1" size senor has 16mm diagonal or 0.63 inch diagonal. This smartphone sensor size is also 0.63inch, that means it is true 1 inch sensor
@yaminsiddiqui4690
@yaminsiddiqui4690 2 жыл бұрын
This is the content I subscribed for, In-depth teardown showing the engineering behind these amazing devices!
@core36
@core36 2 жыл бұрын
i've read your comment and decided to do the same
@utkanbaskadem7904
@utkanbaskadem7904 2 жыл бұрын
oh hey
@arkaneforyou
@arkaneforyou Жыл бұрын
amazing lies.
@Tinmy354
@Tinmy354 Жыл бұрын
Xiaomi means Not so amazing😄
@arouraios4942
@arouraios4942 2 жыл бұрын
Now here's a thought. Switching inch measurements over to rectangle diagonal instead of tube diameter would just confuse everyone. What if, hear me out, we switched to centimeters instead. Since no one measures in centimeters right now there'd be no confusion AND you could switch to a better way of measuring like diagonal, area or circumference
@arouraios4942
@arouraios4942 2 жыл бұрын
Also manufacturers could include both measurements, one in inches and one in centimeters. You aren't forced to get used to a different way of measuring but you do have the more 'accurate' measurement if you want to use it
@gaurangagrawal1174
@gaurangagrawal1174 2 жыл бұрын
you are a genius
@sheikGR
@sheikGR 2 жыл бұрын
I hope that by "no one measures in centimetres" you mean in the photography world and not generally cause well, the whole world uses cm's except the US :P
@MaximaToluene
@MaximaToluene 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say the easiest is just place a label at the end of the measurement i.e. 1" senor tube radius or 1" sensor diagonal or whatever. But lets be real, they are intentionally using that measurement for marketing, even if we think of a better way to avoid misleading, they for sure wont pick it up.
@simioni
@simioni 2 жыл бұрын
Diagonal is the worst system every invented to measure imaging devices. It's meaningless by itself, and even if accompanied by aspect ratio it makes comparing devices very hard. Area is much better, at least for screens. But area is also trickier for cameras since it's difficult to produce non-round lenses. So a lot of cameras have sensors that are actually larger than the image circle of their lens can cover, but of course this extra area is useless for capturing light. So the only true measure of what a camera system can capture is the image circle, which is a lens measure really, but is the only indicator of the maximum size of the lens that a given sensor can cover.
@pictainment
@pictainment 2 жыл бұрын
The sensor size measurement is from old times. At that time only 2/3 from 1 inch was usable. So diagonally 1inch is 16mm. This counts for all camera sensor measurements
2 жыл бұрын
he literally said that
@pictainment
@pictainment 2 жыл бұрын
@ I wrote the comment before i watched till the end...
@hecker2274
@hecker2274 2 жыл бұрын
Mkbhd video? 🤌
@ACESENTAIL
@ACESENTAIL 2 жыл бұрын
@@pictainment and there is the problem
@pictainment
@pictainment 2 жыл бұрын
@@ACESENTAIL exactly... anyway some people beside me seemed to miss the information.^^
@Lol-kl1rb
@Lol-kl1rb Жыл бұрын
“Its a bit smaller than we expected” And i took that personally
@user-cw3nb8rc9e
@user-cw3nb8rc9e 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic disassembly. Especially interesting to see camera modules disassembled. Please keep doing it.
@UNVIRUSLETALE
@UNVIRUSLETALE 2 жыл бұрын
The silicone back looks nice, would definitely prefer it over glass because glass is glass and glass breaks
@ConnorDunhamFilms
@ConnorDunhamFilms 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree with that!
@silva_br1
@silva_br1 2 жыл бұрын
Leather
@anuarbin
@anuarbin 2 жыл бұрын
@@silva_br1 Fake leather
@pixels_per_inch
@pixels_per_inch 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it will peel off by itself in the long run.
@douglasdever6134
@douglasdever6134 2 жыл бұрын
It looks cheap! Using REAL leather would be ok. But a fake leather....give me a break.
@johnsalamii
@johnsalamii 2 жыл бұрын
its weird to see that the big camera isn't the one in the center
@supreme4023
@supreme4023 2 жыл бұрын
Coz its the ultra wide in the middle...which sees wider than even the main one but once u c it ....u cant unsee it .....its kinda like that.
@OXIR
@OXIR 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. When you look at the back you think the camera in the center must be the largest one.
@yuxuanhuang3523
@yuxuanhuang3523 2 жыл бұрын
@@supreme4023 I have problems with my phone, It's ultrawide is in the lower corner of the camera bump, whenever I hold it with one hand, my finger covers it sometimes. Putting it in the center might help. Model Huawei Mate 40 Pro, also has similar-sized round camera bump, but it's three cameras and the Lidar is in four corners of the ring
@supreme4023
@supreme4023 2 жыл бұрын
@@yuxuanhuang3523 if the ultra wide is in the middle or lower ...it might pick up ur finger in the picture...its kinda good the way it is...depends on how wide it is...better in upper corners...thats why iPhone cameras are always in the corner ....it also helps in getting close to objects bcoz its in the corner ...so if u take a low ultra wide ground shot...u can get closer to the ground..or take good macro shots
@yuxuanhuang3523
@yuxuanhuang3523 2 жыл бұрын
@@supreme4023 That was my whole point. My phone camera 's ultrawide is positioned terribly, I have big hands and I like taking photos with my phone outside the window so I get a nice grip. half the photos I get a annoying finger in frame
@MegaWardog1
@MegaWardog1 2 жыл бұрын
When it comes to cameras a 1 inch sensor is never truly a full inch in any direction of measurement, the one inch is referring to the size of vacuum tube the sensor would have fit into, back when vacuum tubes were used in cameras.
@douglasdever6134
@douglasdever6134 2 жыл бұрын
BS. He gave a legit and even logical reason for the incorrect measurement to the public. Vacuum tubes? Did you 35mm have them or was it only in large format?
@MegaWardog1
@MegaWardog1 2 жыл бұрын
@@douglasdever6134 they were basically a CRT , but instead of projecting the image onto the screen these tubes would capture the image. These were the original versions of a sensor and were originally created in the 1920's and were use in commercial TV cameras into the 1990's.
@Clavinohou
@Clavinohou 2 жыл бұрын
@@douglasdever6134 this isn’t BS lmao, MKBHD did a video on how 1 inch sensors aren’t actually 1 inch
@mjc0961
@mjc0961 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, you watched the video too?
@raykyledecastro6083
@raykyledecastro6083 2 жыл бұрын
@@douglasdever6134 Tell me you're naive about cameras without telling me you're naive about cameras.
@attria4945
@attria4945 2 жыл бұрын
Went into my recommendations and auto played because I tapped on the vid while scrolling. Was about to scroll but your voice is soothing and has perfect amount of bass which is so relaxing so I finished the vid
@Danny.._
@Danny.._ 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for showing us the real size of the sensor, and thanks especially for explaining how even though it's not really one inch, it's still "one inch" 😂
@dtibor5903
@dtibor5903 Жыл бұрын
There is no debunking. Normally this is called a "1 inch type" sensor. This naming convention is very well known by professional video shooters. For the average consumer, yes, it is absolutely misleading.
@martinropero7196
@martinropero7196 2 жыл бұрын
oh my god, that is a teardown. Very impresive tech overall, is incredible how far we've come
@justuser2681
@justuser2681 2 жыл бұрын
The size of matrices in smartphones is measured not by an ordinary inch, but in vidicon inch,and he = 2/3 of classic inch
@Sunshrine2
@Sunshrine2 2 жыл бұрын
Vidicon inch? Jaysus.... whyyyyyyy.
@fluffygalaxy6
@fluffygalaxy6 2 жыл бұрын
God, I was so confused how putting the sensor into a circle and measuring its diameter would get you anything other than just the diagonal of the sensor (which is not an inch as shown in the video, but 0.66), makes sense now
@SketchTurnerZero
@SketchTurnerZero 2 жыл бұрын
No they dont
@fabiantapia9131
@fabiantapia9131 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, a famous scammers that worked for Cesar the king.
@MichaelPick
@MichaelPick 2 жыл бұрын
Awe yeah! Bigger is always better 😮‍💨
@mini4dailytech982
@mini4dailytech982 Жыл бұрын
My dad recommended me to watch your videos before replacing my old phones if I intend to buy flagship phones, Jerry you're awesome 😂❤❤
@JerryRigEverything
@JerryRigEverything Жыл бұрын
Your dad is awesome!
@giga-chicken
@giga-chicken 2 жыл бұрын
Measuring the image sensor by the size of a theoretical circle that it can fit in *does* still make sense and will continue to make sense for as long as the lenses are circular. The "1 inch" size of the sensor defines the characteristics of the lens that you will need in order to be able to have a full-frame image without a vignette.
@branbroken
@branbroken 2 жыл бұрын
Except that vignette is only occuring if you have a sensor larger than the projected image circle and you arent performing any cropping. Most manufacturors are intentionally doing the opposite and ensuring they have the sharpest portions of the image circle filling the sensor.
@dimitar4y
@dimitar4y 2 жыл бұрын
"defines the characteristics" +1 for not stating the "size" of the lens as a lot of hipster wannabe photographers say.
@ManuelBTC21
@ManuelBTC21 2 жыл бұрын
The whole periscope setup makes me wonder if some day we'll get a physically separate module with a battery, earbuds and .... a nice camera with fewer compromises in terms of the lens setup.
@dimitar4y
@dimitar4y 2 жыл бұрын
Project Ara was a thing that had separate modules, but the company realized that will harm their sustainable income schemes (read: scams/ripoffs) and that it is more profitable to force you to buy a WHOLE new phone bi-annually so they scrapped the idea after it was FULLY. FINISHED. and ready to launch.
@deadfrominside698
@deadfrominside698 2 жыл бұрын
@@dimitar4y those were the days used to be hyped bout it
@tridinh1011
@tridinh1011 2 жыл бұрын
So just the old galaxy s view
@ak19910716
@ak19910716 2 жыл бұрын
Based on all these new tech products and my mechanical design experience, the more modular something is, the bulkier it becomes, at least compared to something of equivalent quality and functionality. Might as well get a cheaper phone and a budget camera.
@griffin8062
@griffin8062 2 жыл бұрын
@@dimitar4y That's part of it, but also a modular phone has a number of major downsides. A modular phone has to be way bulkier than other phones, water resistance is poor, and there is a limited market for them
@_DreamzGaming
@_DreamzGaming 2 жыл бұрын
What will it be if you'll post Nothing Phone (1) teardown 😂
@DanielpazTQ
@DanielpazTQ 2 жыл бұрын
Now that looks fairly easy to repair. Imagine you had to replace the entire frame in order to repair a cracked glass back.
@MARVIS_TV
@MARVIS_TV 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you check out the internals of the periscope lens of the Sony Xperia 1 IV, looking at how they got it going smoothly from 85-125mm would be awesome!
@robwhitmore3040
@robwhitmore3040 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know about the tube measurement until the MKBHD video but I think it's best to stick with it. Since it's widely used and while I know bigger is better, I don't know how big is how good. Being able to compare this to other sensors using the same measurement is probably more important than me knowing the physical dimensions of the sensor. I just got my 12s Ultra and the camera is pretty sick. Not a huge amount better than the 11 Ultra but better than any other smartphone I've tried.
@TLK22
@TLK22 2 жыл бұрын
Actually dxomark rated the 12s ultra lower than the 11 ultra but one thing that I find much better is no more shutter lag. Maybe with software update it will surpass the 11 ultra.
@aliavdic5940
@aliavdic5940 2 жыл бұрын
mi 11 ultra beats 12s ultra with ease, its not even competition
@robwhitmore3040
@robwhitmore3040 2 жыл бұрын
@Ali Avdic I own both and in my experience, it doesn't. the 12 is quicker, battery lasts far longer, I think the camera is better in its default colour and gamma.
@TLK22
@TLK22 2 жыл бұрын
@@robwhitmore3040 I have both too and can confirm the 12s seems better. The 11 is a bit better in complete darkness but it's probably a software problem and I wouldn't go back. The only thing that I miss sonetime is the back screen for selfie.
@robwhitmore3040
@robwhitmore3040 2 жыл бұрын
@@TLK22 yeah, that back screen got a lot of complaints but I loved it. I wish they had kept it in the 12
@techtt6213
@techtt6213 2 жыл бұрын
4:40, not actually zoom, it's how the autofocus works
@pixels_per_inch
@pixels_per_inch 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, with zoom you would need at least 2 moving elements. I wonder how the module inside the Xperia 1 IV actually work.
@swizzle876
@swizzle876 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jerry, when will we get the next electric Hummer video? I can't wait any longer lol 😅
@karasjan14
@karasjan14 2 жыл бұрын
The truth is that 1 inch sensors in cameras are actually 0.52x0.35 inches in size. So they weren't lying.
@SimEast
@SimEast 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@freemasonry666
@freemasonry666 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah like 2MP = 1600 pixel × 1200 pixel
@LA-MJ
@LA-MJ 2 жыл бұрын
We can follow the video ourselves, thank you
@ggz21
@ggz21 2 жыл бұрын
@@LA-MJ lol
@jimkrom
@jimkrom 2 жыл бұрын
The only lie they said was it was the first phone to sport one of these bad boys, while the latest Sharp Aquos preceded them by months
@MouayedYahyaoui
@MouayedYahyaoui 2 жыл бұрын
is it only me. or is it normal to see the device back to life after that wholesome tear off??
@brunoais
@brunoais 2 жыл бұрын
6:40 Thank you for bringing that knowledge when showing the camera sensor size!
@KyleVeatch
@KyleVeatch 2 жыл бұрын
What would happen if you just plugged the sensor into the motherboard with it exposed like that? Would be cool to test it out and see if you can get it to focus on anything with your own lens.
@3450P
@3450P 2 жыл бұрын
Just blurry image, you can try this with mirrorless camera without lens.
@T1mpossible
@T1mpossible 2 жыл бұрын
Thats quite interesting question
@juliovsilva
@juliovsilva 2 жыл бұрын
Did it once. Fully white image. Kind of disappointed when I saw it.
@euro_rfx4499
@euro_rfx4499 2 жыл бұрын
@@juliovsilva too much exposure?
@juliovsilva
@juliovsilva 2 жыл бұрын
​@@euro_rfx4499 Probably. Since the lenses limit the aperture to a few millimeters and "distort" the image into the correct shape, a full on daylight shot is probably too much for a naked sensor to handle. Even if it could handle that much brightness, probably we would still get a fully white shot, because, as I said, it needs "treated" data/image when it comes to angle, exposure, focus, otherwise it would only be able to see in a binary way: whether there is light or not in each one of its "pixels". DISCLAIMER: I'm not a photographer, neither an image/photo technician or stuff like that. I'm a lawyer, which is a profession that is way far from understanding about photography and sensors, so, there's a risk that the comment above is full BS hahahaha
@jesseamuzu6250
@jesseamuzu6250 2 жыл бұрын
it costs me pleasure to afford this device despite the scratches. Thank you for your videos I appreciate ☺️
@DarwisLimZ
@DarwisLimZ 2 жыл бұрын
The real size of a 1-inch sensor. Every image sensor marketed as 1-inch sensor measures 0.52″ (13.2mm) on the long side, 0.35″ (8.8mm) on the short side, and 0.63″ (15.9mm) diagonally. If you watched this video till the end, Zack Explained it at the end
@JHuffPhoto
@JHuffPhoto Жыл бұрын
The 1 inch nomenclature goes back to early television cameras. You will not find a 1 inch measurement on it. A one inch sensor measures 9 by 12mm.
@ccflan
@ccflan 2 жыл бұрын
one of the best videos outthere for Jerry, congrats
@metraforce441
@metraforce441 2 жыл бұрын
*Whether it is false advertising or a bad measurement it is still for sure 1 inch of impressiveness*
@polyblank73
@polyblank73 2 жыл бұрын
Thats just what it is called. 1 inch sensors are almost never one inch. its from the olden days where the camera tube was one inch in diameter, but not the sensor
@lau9876547
@lau9876547 2 жыл бұрын
Did you know that 1-inch sensors are actually way smaller than 1-inch? The diagonal of these sensors only measures 0.63″ and we can blame the old cathode-ray tubes (CRT) technology for this misleading marketing technique.
@Harby13
@Harby13 2 жыл бұрын
What this guy said!
@bl4ze1g
@bl4ze1g 2 жыл бұрын
MKBHD made a great video about it
@toga8874
@toga8874 2 жыл бұрын
yep that right
@James_____
@James_____ 2 жыл бұрын
"just like a little lego" never gets old
@gerGoPrint3D
@gerGoPrint3D 2 жыл бұрын
Together with "I'll see you around" these are iconic JRE phrases uttered in all his videos.
@introverse7167
@introverse7167 2 жыл бұрын
Loving the fact that the wallpaper is a JWST image
@Splackavellie85
@Splackavellie85 2 жыл бұрын
It's impressive to see this in an actually good flagship smartphone. But I've had the same size sensor in my Panasonic CM1 since 2016, and in my DxO One since 2018.
@RehctubNomis
@RehctubNomis 2 жыл бұрын
Having had many smartphone cameras (including the 108MP Samsung many raved about being the best smartphone camera) I have to say this Xiaomi is the best smartphone camera I've had. For qualification I've been in to photography for over a decade and have a couple of high end cameras and was never a fan of the image processing style most smartphones go for (over hdr, vibrant colours) so your mileage may vary, but I'm loving the 12S Ultra. Thanks for the teardown, from being a small child I always loved taking things apart, but as I was always better at that than putting them back together, it's good to see someone else ruin their phone for me = )
@ihlasakasali1024
@ihlasakasali1024 11 ай бұрын
@RehtubNomis I'll take your comment as my insight. Then after a year, do you have another smartphone camera suggestion?
@RehctubNomis
@RehctubNomis 11 ай бұрын
@@ihlasakasali1024 I'm waiting for the 14 Ultra, saw a leak about the camera modules and supposition based on the 14 pro and sounds like it'll be a worthwhile switch. (that, and hoping for an international rom, as the china only 12s Ultra rom means AndroidAuto doesn't work, which, I don't own a car, but when I rent, it's damned annoying - about the only thing that doesn't though).
@niklaskoskinen123
@niklaskoskinen123 2 жыл бұрын
My preferred sensor measurement is width x height in mm. So 13.2mm x 8.8mm.
@Tachi778
@Tachi778 2 жыл бұрын
The measure of 1 inch is actually a diagonal measure of the sensor The thing is that instead of usual inches, for camera sensors are usually used vidicon inches, which equal 2/3 of usual inches (or 1,69 cm)
@stuartcarter7053
@stuartcarter7053 2 жыл бұрын
For some reason I found watching that really therapeutic
@gr0men
@gr0men 2 жыл бұрын
7:40 Reason I keep watching your vids. Genius humor.
@msk.y
@msk.y 2 жыл бұрын
A size comparison with other phone sensors would be nice!
@MathieuTechMoto
@MathieuTechMoto 2 жыл бұрын
with the Xperia Pro-I
@YgorCortes
@YgorCortes 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! I'd love to see how large it is compared to iPhone 13 Pro, the Pixel 6 and the Galaxy S22 Ultra
@msk.y
@msk.y 2 жыл бұрын
@@MathieuTechMoto I thought the experia also had a 1inch equivalent sensor. Just that they didn't use the whole area
@MathieuTechMoto
@MathieuTechMoto 2 жыл бұрын
@@msk.y Yeah that's a bummer !
@fa14bi-78
@fa14bi-78 2 жыл бұрын
@@YgorCortes the iPhone 13pro uses an 1/1.65 Sensor So it's around 3times as large as the iPhone, maybe slightly below 3 times i'm not perfect in calculating the diagonals by my head. The S22 Ultra uses around 60% of the Xiamois Sensor Size.
@JeremiahFestus2
@JeremiahFestus2 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet engineering, detailed explanation by Jerry as always. 😍
@raphaeltoast
@raphaeltoast Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: His name's actually Zack, his channel is named after "jerry rigging" things.
@iau
@iau 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly everything he took apart in this phone seemed very high quality and well assembled. I was surprised.
@i_am_Amit_music
@i_am_Amit_music 2 жыл бұрын
Lol every phone are made like this 😂
@sconcepx
@sconcepx Жыл бұрын
​@@i_am_Amit_musicthink surprised because its a chinese brand!
@chartphred1
@chartphred1 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting teardown, actually a lot higher quality than I envisaged.
@Adnankhan-hm5yg
@Adnankhan-hm5yg 2 жыл бұрын
I can listen to this Man all day ....
@mumiemonstret
@mumiemonstret 2 жыл бұрын
They should have updated the sensor size standard the same as they did for displays. A 21" CRT monitor has a much smaller viewing area than a 21" LCD and we quickly got used to it. The obvious solution is to abandon imperial units altogether. There will be no doubt what a 15 mm sensor means.
@szaszm_
@szaszm_ 2 жыл бұрын
I'm all for SI, but just like they redefined inches in a stupid way, there's nothing stopping them from redefining millimeters in a stupid way.
@residentCJ
@residentCJ 2 жыл бұрын
1" Sensor were already in Leitz Phone 1, Panasonic CM 1, Sony xperia pro i (used partial). All Phones with Zeiss Lenses use Glass Lenses (Sony, Nokia, Vivo)
@emrulhasansimon4548
@emrulhasansimon4548 2 жыл бұрын
Lg v30 also
@justaguyfromreddit
@justaguyfromreddit 2 жыл бұрын
Also in the aqua phone or smth like that
@martinfricz
@martinfricz 2 жыл бұрын
@@justaguyfromreddit Sharp Aquos R6 and R7
@martinfricz
@martinfricz 2 жыл бұрын
@@justaguyfromreddit 🤓
@fa14bi-78
@fa14bi-78 2 жыл бұрын
@@emrulhasansimon4548 the LG V30 uses 1/3.1 meaning it's only 10% of the size of what this Xiaomi has
@clmrsmn
@clmrsmn 2 жыл бұрын
i think the measuring should stay the same cause then its easy to backwards compare to older sensors instead of having to remeasure everything or do conversions
@tobityp2
@tobityp2 2 жыл бұрын
Yea that's why the us stays with mph inch feet gallons etc and the rest of the world doesn't... That's not a good idea. I'm very glad that we use the SI system in Europe with meter kmh Zentimeter etc
@DPac9
@DPac9 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of lessons learned today Prof.Jerry
@chrisco7
@chrisco7 2 жыл бұрын
"it's an antique relic from the olden days that just doesn't really make sense anymore, but we still keep it around for some reason." Like "inches" and other imperial units as a form of measurement
@xaviernic3675
@xaviernic3675 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jerry. I know the Mi 11 ultra is now a year old, but by any chance could u do a tear Down for it. I feel like that was the best of Xiaomi yet. This 12s ultra is like a stepdown from it's predecessor.
@galerinha
@galerinha 2 жыл бұрын
Every 2022 phone is being worse than it's predecessor because they're trying to keep last year's prices while also upgrading some components when all the components got more expensive to buy/manufacture.
@aulilia8183
@aulilia8183 2 жыл бұрын
I think so
@ray4493
@ray4493 2 жыл бұрын
12s ultra is a complete crap when compared to 11U. Even detailed camera reviewers use 11U as benchmarks when comparing flagship mobile cameras. Things are just going downhill.
@Mitorafer
@Mitorafer 2 жыл бұрын
@@ray4493 completely not true I have Mi 11 Ultra and upgraded to Xiaomi 12S Ultra, the phone is lighter, the leather like back is easier to grip and no fingerprints on the back, build quality is better, the camera is better and shutter speed is the fastest thing ever, you can just take out the phone enter camera and shoot and it's good, no effort needed, the proximity sensor is fixed, the snapdragon 8 + gen 1 is better in EVERYTHING compared to 888, it is opening up apps so fast and everything is much smoother while not consuming more battery and the phone does heat at all, the screen is ltpo which also saves battery, the phone has a few shortcomings compared to mi 11 ultra, the only major one is no rear display, which is a shame i'll agree on that, other than that, having 4860 battery compared to 5000 is not bad since the phone consumes less battery to begin with, and lasts to me personally a day and a half, you can still charge it for like 10-15 minutes and be good for another day, without even needing to charge overnight! (I was using the charger all day and night with mi 11 ultra), now I only need 10 maybe 20, at max 30 minutes charging and the phone is good for everything I throw at it, which is a huge advantage, the earpiece is louder too, sorry for long rant, but what you just said is simply looking and specs and saying "they barely did anything, the downgraded stuff" no, the only downgrade is no rear display sure, everything else is better/same which is totally worth the asking price, the phone is great
@xaviernic3675
@xaviernic3675 2 жыл бұрын
This whole one inch sensor thing for 12s ultra was already in the 11 ultra coupled with it's unique design. Plus damn that camera bump for the 11U was fine AF. The ability to take selfies with that camera was was mwaaahh. It's like that phone was too ahead of it's time for Xiaomi. It feels like this was supposed to come first then the other one.
@kasper_429
@kasper_429 2 жыл бұрын
"They are being extremely generous with that ruler.. but I mean, who hasn't?" "Like the floppy disk icon, fax machines, or members of Congress." Zack's on fire with the one-liners today. Well said. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@LiveTUNA
@LiveTUNA 2 жыл бұрын
Literally the best comment 😂🤣
@WeItenspinner
@WeItenspinner 2 жыл бұрын
Sensors should just be measured in mm² as tells the actual surface area in an international unit.
@jthomas5o158
@jthomas5o158 7 ай бұрын
Love Xiaomi! Some of the best smartphone camera hardware currently being made. It's nice to see the inner workings here!
@ThePrinceVincent
@ThePrinceVincent 25 күн бұрын
Jerry wilding on this one 🗣️🔥
@eriknielsen1231
@eriknielsen1231 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that the ultrawide wasn't mentioned at all, even though it's in the center of the phone... But I definitely think that the old way of measuring sensors is dumb and confusing for the average consumer.
@ThaexakaMavro
@ThaexakaMavro 2 жыл бұрын
1 inch sensor has nothing to do with one inch in size its confusing i know ! The name of a 1" digital sensor should more accurately be read as "one inch video camera tube equivalent" sensor. Current digital image sensor size descriptors are the video camera tube equivalency size, not the actual size of the sensor. For example, a 1" sensor has a diagonal measurement of 16 mm.
@husamhourani5522
@husamhourani5522 2 жыл бұрын
Correct 👍🏼👍🏼
@ByronRC
@ByronRC 2 жыл бұрын
Correct, only 2 hours ago I watched DP Review TV and they broke sensor size down😀
@muthukumarannm398
@muthukumarannm398 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, finally one person knows his camera stuff.
@pixels_per_inch
@pixels_per_inch 2 жыл бұрын
Zack just revealed how many viewers doesn't finish watching the video.
@realracer0353
@realracer0353 2 жыл бұрын
Camera sensors for smartphones should definitely be measured in a way that makes sense for smartphones and avoids confusion for consumers!
@MrSmith-rk4jq
@MrSmith-rk4jq 2 жыл бұрын
or consumers should just learn how things are measured for different things and there's no confusion at all. TV's are measured diagonally and no one cares, how is this any different?
@realracer0353
@realracer0353 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrSmith-rk4jq when consumers hear "1 inch" they think the sensor is gonna be a lot bigger than it actually is
@Joe-hm1zk
@Joe-hm1zk 2 жыл бұрын
@@realracer0353 Most point and shoot cameras also use these same 1 inch sensors. It's a by-product of the photography world. Even if someone purchases a point and shoot camera and wasn't aware of how the naming convention came to be (sensor size that would fit within a 1 inch vacuum tube in this case) they would still have the same confusion. The entire photography naming scheme is just odd and always has been. Medium format sensors are WAY larger than Full Frame sensors but the names don't imply that. I don't think the naming scheme should be changed for smart phones exclusively.
@MrSmith-rk4jq
@MrSmith-rk4jq 2 жыл бұрын
@@realracer0353 my ex thought the same thing when I told her 1 inch
@rafi6618
@rafi6618 2 жыл бұрын
they do tell the sensor size in mm, you just gotta look it up
@phuketexplorer
@phuketexplorer 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to cry for a week, seeing my 'wish list' mobile destroyed for no good reason! 😭
@StyleArsen
@StyleArsen 2 жыл бұрын
It's very interesting about size of camera, thanks!
@billr6983
@billr6983 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, very fun and informative! DPReviewTV did a video recently about sensor sizes. Other channels and sites have pointed this out in the past. It's my opinion sensors should be advertised by area. So a "I inch" sensor would be known by it's area in mm (approx. 10 X 13mm ,being generous again) so it's area would be 130mm. Advertisers and camera companies could call it a 130 sensor. Seems reasobaly sensible and a lot more accurate!
@YukSupportBorneo
@YukSupportBorneo 2 жыл бұрын
One inch sensor in a smartphone requires a long optical lens, therefore the space for the camera must be thick. Smartphone reviewers are sometimes stupid when they say the camera space is too thick but at the same time they want a smartphone with a good camera.
@graysonforget4914
@graysonforget4914 2 жыл бұрын
I bet Jerry could do the whole reviewing process with his eyes closed since he’s done it for years now 😂
@bcc91
@bcc91 2 жыл бұрын
Can you drive to work with your eyes closed just because you've done it for years?
@Moustafa-Eldessouki
@Moustafa-Eldessouki 2 жыл бұрын
@@bcc91 be easy man.. :D
@bcc91
@bcc91 2 жыл бұрын
Hehehehehehehe just joking a bittttt
@salmanfardeen
@salmanfardeen 2 жыл бұрын
that small dust particle on the sensor was giving me another level of anxiety! >
@gprooficial4972
@gprooficial4972 2 жыл бұрын
Wow at last a soft tutorial I can follow! you sir are a genius
@prodj.mixapeofficial6431
@prodj.mixapeofficial6431 2 жыл бұрын
Remember, Redmi note 8 pro sensor is a beast when in it's full potential, an underrated phone
@polyblank73
@polyblank73 2 жыл бұрын
I like how a lot of smartphones advertise with "WOAHHH 64 MP CAMERA SENSOR!!! 128 MP CAMERA SENSORR!!!!" even though it doesn't mean anything if the lens is made of plastic. the images arent going to be 128 megapixels, they are limited by the lens. so while it is going to take up space like a whatever size image, it wont look like a whatever sized image.
@StarfoxHUN
@StarfoxHUN 2 жыл бұрын
It means, altought definelty not as much as ppls thinks. It helps with futureproofing as the more pixels, the better work the software can do while post-processing and software can always improve. And also i heard it helps heaps for low-light photos too altought i dont know the details about that(Edit: It's not helping for low-light, see long comment below).
@masononemine1702
@masononemine1702 2 жыл бұрын
True, also with the lenses being so tiny they are always affected by the effects of diffraction to a degree. That said tho, I really do wish that we get more native higher mega pixel sensors in Smartphones. Just compare the images from Xiaomi Mi 10 pro or mi 11 with any samsung phone with that 108 mp sensor since those phones use the exact same sensor except that they bin it down to 25 megapixels instead of 12 mp and the result is quite clear, viewed on a bigger screen the Samsung looks terrible compared to the Xiaomi.
@technicboy5917
@technicboy5917 2 жыл бұрын
@@StarfoxHUN I understand that you don't understand so I just wanted to make you understand. The more pixels there are in the same sensor size the worse the low light performance(usually). This is because the pixels on the sensor itself is smaller and therefore received less light and cannot use as high of an ISO to achieve the same noise quantity. What smartphones sometimes do is include each colour of pixels as a separate pixel. Since there are 4 coloured pixels in one "normal pixel" the actually pixel count should be divided by four to achieve the same amount as there would be in a DSLR or mirrorless camera. I know it's a long response but I just noticed you noticing some cap online so I just wanted to give you notice so you would notice too.
@StarfoxHUN
@StarfoxHUN 2 жыл бұрын
@@technicboy5917 Thanks for the info, i always appreciate such detailed clarification.
@pixels_per_inch
@pixels_per_inch 2 жыл бұрын
Actually they're limited by the colour (Bayer) filter resolution. If you compare the filters between a 12 MP standard Bayer and those Quad or Nona bay with 108 MP, they would actually look exactly the same. So why does it say 108 MP? It means they just have extra light sensors behind each colour for noise reduction and simultaneous bracketing (HDR).
@thariqrahim
@thariqrahim 2 жыл бұрын
Xiaomi forgot that Jerry will rig the 12s and reveal the size. 😅☄️
@technicboy5917
@technicboy5917 2 жыл бұрын
Nup everything is correct. 1 inch is a terminology in photography where the tube infront of the sensor was 1 inch in diameter back in the film times. A true one inch sensor would be somewhere between an APS-C and a full frame sensor
@OliverBatchelor
@OliverBatchelor 2 жыл бұрын
"Inch" is also a relic from the olden days which we keep around for some reason!
@orhanselen
@orhanselen 2 жыл бұрын
I am literally dying inside when I saw you tearing this apart. That phone is very expensive in my country.
@nanthakumar5062
@nanthakumar5062 2 жыл бұрын
How much ?
@cwg73160
@cwg73160 2 жыл бұрын
That’s weird. Apple has never had a 1” sensor in their phones so I’m not sure where Xiaomi got that idea from.
@nitishdhiman706
@nitishdhiman706 2 жыл бұрын
If you don't want these mobiles you can send me 😂
@allys537
@allys537 2 жыл бұрын
That is a HUGE sensor for a phone, but the photographer in me is about to faint over the mauling of those camera parts... T... T... Those poor sensors, what'd they ever do you deserve this 😥
@deb2743
@deb2743 2 жыл бұрын
A teardown after ages?!
@fabrizio90roma
@fabrizio90roma 2 жыл бұрын
Best mobile phone video ever, thanks for your job!
@Mobile_Dom
@Mobile_Dom 2 жыл бұрын
also, 1" camera sensors arent actually an inch in any dimension, naming for sensors is super weird, its 12.8x9.6mm
@jorgeescudero5034
@jorgeescudero5034 2 жыл бұрын
I'm actually more impressed with that 5x optical zoom. Better than 3x and 10x (quality) in s21/22 ultra. Btw, the photos still look a lot "smartphonish", soo I think it's a waste of potential. The mi 11 ultra could have got the "new" quality just ny a few tweaks..
@supreme4023
@supreme4023 2 жыл бұрын
Not a waste but it actually holds up to the S22 Ultra and maybe does a few things better. U cant literally say this as a waste.
@OXIR
@OXIR 2 жыл бұрын
Does it look better though? At 10x, 20x etc? I think 10x optical zoom still looks better but it's that Xiaomi uses a 48MP sensor for 5X periscope while Samsung uses 10MP sensor for 10X periscope. But maybe Samsung uses a smaller sensor. I think the periscope lens on Xiaomi is still produced by Samsung if I'm not mistaken. Google too uses it because years ago there were news of Samsung buying the Corephotonics (spelling is probably wrong) company which produces these periscope systems.
@jorgeescudero5034
@jorgeescudero5034 2 жыл бұрын
@@OXIR I'm not saying that this 12s ultra looks better at 10x, I'm saying that the quality of it's 5x pictures (details, contrast, noise control, not just zoom) it's better at 5x than the 3x and 10x in samsung at 3x and 10x. Because samsung is using a lot smaller sensors on 3x and 10x. Of couse at that nominal zoom levels s22u is better, but the picture quality is average, while 5x on xiaomi is very good. Still I would go with samsung just because their software has been better and more stable for a few years now.
@jorgeescudero5034
@jorgeescudero5034 2 жыл бұрын
@@supreme4023 does a few things better being the sensor reasonably bigger than the one on the galaxy s22U when it should take overall superior photos always. That's why I'm saying "wasted potential". Xiaomo can do a lot better. We are talking about a "normal " camera type size sensor!! That's not a step but a whole stair above competition.
@supreme4023
@supreme4023 2 жыл бұрын
@@jorgeescudero5034 actually its not how it seems lol...that still is a small mobile sensor and the one inch branding is what jerry said...so its not that high power as u might find it...and mirrorless or dslr cameras are way bigger and better quality. It still can capture good photos dont get me wrong
@TheYamimillenium
@TheYamimillenium 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Zack, I read this phone was only available in China, while the 12s & 12s pro were available globally. How did you manage to get one? because I'm interested in ordering this one. Thx
@MrChriselicious
@MrChriselicious 2 жыл бұрын
not only china. Many places in Europe too. like Sweden.
@mamachawngthu95
@mamachawngthu95 2 жыл бұрын
Also available in India
@MithunOnTheNet
@MithunOnTheNet 2 жыл бұрын
When you have 7.4 million subscribers, phone companies will just send him stuff. Even though he destroys them, his videos get a lot of views and are popular. So despite his opinions about a device, in the end it is still marketing.
@potipher05
@potipher05 2 жыл бұрын
@@MithunOnTheNet he doesn't receive phones from the companies. He mentioned that a few times
@zadalmelik011
@zadalmelik011 2 жыл бұрын
​​@@MithunOnTheNet Not all times he receives phones from companies. He instead buys them.
@杜忠晏
@杜忠晏 2 жыл бұрын
For referernce, the 1 inch sensor the RX100 series and the G7X series use is sized 13.2mm*8.8mm
@Manava2012
@Manava2012 2 жыл бұрын
That extra copper plate on top of processor is a work around for a design spec which missed the 1mm extra gap in the contact :)
@CLSMAG
@CLSMAG 2 жыл бұрын
First death of Xiaomi 12s Ultra Camera....
@fcphenrique
@fcphenrique 2 жыл бұрын
Could you plug the cameras back in even without the lenses? I was curious to see the result
@karlhaipee7662
@karlhaipee7662 2 жыл бұрын
You could it just would probably come up with a message and a blank screen when the app is opened
@alexharden6396
@alexharden6396 2 жыл бұрын
you would get a white screen as sensors need the lens to see and so they can expose the photo right
@pixels_per_inch
@pixels_per_inch 2 жыл бұрын
It would be an extremely blurry image and would act like a single point light sensor.
@omkarnikharge6556
@omkarnikharge6556 2 жыл бұрын
6:31 larger is better🗿🗿
@blenderwithterrain
@blenderwithterrain 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing but respect for this
@bigbadaboooom
@bigbadaboooom 2 жыл бұрын
not everyone knows this, but smartphone and camera manufacturers always measure the sensor diagonally and use the widicon inch, which is exactly 2/3 of the usual inch
@Dan-rt6bc
@Dan-rt6bc 2 жыл бұрын
It's not small, It's above average smh.
@ranjitsinha9954
@ranjitsinha9954 2 жыл бұрын
He has the guts to open camera app after taking out the camera itself 😅🤣🤣🤣
@dovafinn3594
@dovafinn3594 2 жыл бұрын
4:22 that line from Xiangling (genshin impact) tho -
@punjabgaming4x
@punjabgaming4x 2 жыл бұрын
I think this video is more enjoyable with audio only...... put this one on audible zack!!
@DrDisrespectofDMZ
@DrDisrespectofDMZ 2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this teardown
@anubratachakraborty1370
@anubratachakraborty1370 2 жыл бұрын
Waited for a long time to see this.
@GrubyWojtas
@GrubyWojtas 2 жыл бұрын
aww Jerry, please plug in the big sensor back to its place and take a photo with it
@megabreeeze
@megabreeeze 2 жыл бұрын
Love these break down of phones the destruction is why l keep coming back to JerryRigEverything this is awesome, keep up the great work, big thumbs up to that.
@The1983333
@The1983333 2 жыл бұрын
VERY HIGH CLASS VIDEO OF TEAR APART....ALL brands tell many lies to consumers by these kinds of measuements manners or etc....
@laneinkpen9682
@laneinkpen9682 2 жыл бұрын
I install aftermarket cathode ray tubes on all my smartphone cameras, it's super easy
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