Indelible MC's (Co Flow, Juggaknots & J-Treds) at Fat Beats 1997

In 1997 Company Flow, The Juggaknots and J-Treds joined forces to become The Indelibles. What we have here is footage from their Fat Beats NYC in-store for the release of "The Fire In Which You Burn" (Official/Rawkus). Watch Breeze Brewin', J-Treds, El-P and Bigg Jus rip the mic (one mic at that) as they perform "Fire" while Mr. Len aka Space Ghost spins the instrumentals. Then get ready for some bonus rounds with additional footage from some of the aforementioned along with Queen Herawin, Wordsworth and ILL BILL. Shout out to Pumpkinhead, A.L. Skills, Rok One and Max Glazer who also rocked earlier that day while we were all waiting for J-Treds' late ass to show up.

[@julienwilliams7184]

I bet no one knew at the time how epic and how important these artists were for that whole movement

[@SRTHEMIMOPAR]

Listening to today's so called hiphop they still haven't realised ish!

[@Stoney-Jacksman]

In the underground a lot of artist knew each other. Even without the internet (as it is), people made connections through being at certain spots, trhough even communicating with graffiti on walls. Its now about importance. Most people dont care about these people now (but for the whole run the jewels generic sect). Only a few. Like it always is and will be with certain sincere art. I lived all the way in Amsterdam and I knew how epic these cats were..so stop the generic cliché American drama comments please ;)

[@SWETGUV]

They still don't

[@marihuana942]

GRADE xaxaxaxaxa

[@s0t3rwon_teoktheeviloneskr76]

They were literally the movement especially el-p

[@oljerzbastard4847]

Pre-weathermen, pre-def jux, god damn this is my history right here. Peace to all my weather people still bumpin that raw shit. And of course all you jewelrunners just discovering this artifact

[@SunCityGamer]

right here brother!

[@reason2910]

Ol Jerz Bastard feel like Co Flow is still ahead of the game, run the jewels feel like els not as raw.

[@sopeone4295]

lol

[@scienz]

reason2910 run the jewels is tampered ish. Killer mike is blah AF

[@sil-zk8061]

​@@scienzBig Jus > Killer Mike x1000

[@designatedpiledriver8216]

Underground hip hop I miss you...

[@ryanhuong]

This was pretty much the peak of hip hop, right in this moment here.

[@Iriscience]

+Ryan Huong yup, 97-98 shit was like the hip hop renaissance

[@cooloutac]

just what I was thinking dude.

[@JEFFMAN90]

Underground hip is still alive. Mainstream hip hop is dead.

[@UsaiCyre]

hand pump it never left as long as cats like me rock enjoy this fam taspmugshotonesiknnspk.bandcamp.com/track/trust-me-sun-mug-the-destroyer-produced-by-mugshotone-jcm-wsds-bmg I'm illl b

[@brianclarke6202]

The amount of talent present here is fucking ridiculous. Everyone that spits, destroys and is the epitome of the "underground" scene at that time. For anyone that wants to know what that raw NY MC shit is, look no further. Why I love EL so much is because he still oozes that vibe to this day in everything he touches. Brewin man........LOVE me some Breezly Brewin........ his voice and flow are the illest.

[@tapeworm6093]

Brewin is as smooth and buttery as it gets

[@RobinJohnstonphotography]

‘Even when I say nothing it’s a beautiful use of negative space’

[@dustywaxhead]

RIP Pumpkinhead

[@djsaintb]

Pumpkinhead was real.

[@leaksmoke9859]

"living circle circle dot dot...." treds stopped spittin, he knew the crowd was boutta come in. Such a signature quote

[@jacktherhymer]

I don't get the meaning of that

[@brandonwood6459]

@@jacktherhymer Circle circle dot dot....now ive got my coudi shot.

[@dawolf856]

DOPE

[@spek-27]

@@jacktherhymer Probably an age thing. Every 80's kid knows exactly what it means.

[@jacktherhymer]

@@spek-27 since english isn't my first language could you explain please

[@mrugod]

Cause on the mic ive got more presence than attendence in a class of schizophrenics, here here. AW LAWD

[@RustyLongPipe]

Stephen Mooney still one of my favourite lines ever. This album is so under rated it’s criminal. One of the best hip hop albums ever in my opinion

[@drunkboxer82thehon31]

It legit took me two years, when this first came out, to figure out wtf he said in that line. Breeze Brewin is god tier.

[@shillbill1299]

@@drunkboxer82thehon31 that was J-Treds

[@SRTHEMIMOPAR]

My flows over your head..I enjoy the areal view

[@Khronogi]

​@King Leopold It is relating the artist's ability and confidence on the microphone, the aura they bring with them, their 'presence' to the presence of the number of supposed people that would be existing in a classroom filled with Schizophrenics. Schizophrenics hear voices in their heads, so not only is there the actual people themselves in the room, there are all the voices every single one of them hears as well. So the artist is saying his presence on the microphone is more than that of all of the hundreds of voices of those people in the classroom. It is considered a great line because it combines all of that into a single sentence.

[@SunCityGamer]

I love it! No cellphones no nothing! Just straight hip hop!

[@VicVegaTW]

i wish the internet was around like it is now. I hardly knew what the majority of the musicians i liked even looked like until a decade or more after hearing them. Let alone interview and the like, its interesting to see how people are in conversation compared to raps.

[@Stoney-Jacksman]

@874: nah, because it made you hungry for it..and that brings out a whole other dimension..but hey if you dont see it ..you dont see it.

[@clyde6003]

@@Stoney-Jacksman yep. and you valued the tape or record more when you finally get one

[@Stoney-Jacksman]

@@clyde6003 and you use the beauty of the brain and imagination..to draw scenes and faces in your mind. There is nothing better than that. In a small room in a closed up project building. I could travel the world. Cognitively. Peacr

[@cooloutac]

Hip Hop at its greatest, the peak of the underground movement, best generation of rappers, NYC all day. Legends.

[@spinitch]

BREEZE BREWIN.

[@dj_jazzywhut]

I love how they all know each other's lines, man I miss these days.

[@hectormugwump5530]

Pointless spitting on stage together unless you know each other's most hype bars.

[@leibweiss]

wow... that girl is great 👍

[@gothiadhome]

Queen Herawin ,Breeze sister .

[@RAPHA-1982]

Ill Bill's a fuckin beast. Real shit.

[@bludsassij]

Ill Bill in the house.

[@arkhitektz3150]

bigg jus is the greatest emcee to ever bless the mic and i will fight anyone who says otherwise....

[@bossmans_offie]

Glad I found a comment agreeing with my thoughts exactly

[@wutangsword]

Queen is tuff!

[@GenesisRockwell]

My childhood right here...damn.

[@jsmak7617]

Breeze killing it

[@1.--_--.1]

Flow is so nasty

[@DaytonaGrey-RS5]

Probably the best bars, lyrics, of all time ! And that is such a hard beat on fire in which you burn.

[@tonespace]

word up! I was there..In the back to the left..tallest cat with the white head band on. These are the standard that I sharpened my sword to.

[@DaytonaGrey-RS5]

@@tonespace Love it! Yeah, I see you! When this came out I was in College and my roommate was a DJ. So he kept us plugged into the good stuff. We used to have this record on blast at every party we had. I remember having to send Rawkus a check for the CD and waiting for it. When I did receive the CD, I had a free Rawkus Records Tee shirt. Man, the good ol days. Can you imagine how young we were? And can you imagine any kids this age, now, doing something like this? No way!

[@pierre-jean6752]

Man do I miss Fat Beats! I miss the old NY in general. Lol

[@WalksandSuch]

this is legendary

[@jcannion]

Old school... EL P and Breezy Brewin. Good Shit.

[@oljerzbastard4847]

Crazy

[@kickzo]

Truly what a time to be alive

[@lucifer9026]

Rare that I get goosebumps like this these days.

[@discern7544]

Good times, so much potential back then.

[@baldwinhillsspacemen8229]

This footage is so awesome, haven't had a grin this big on my face in...forever

[@antoniogambardella785]

This Is Rap 90s Classics 💣🔥👊🎙🎵🎶🔝

[@gothamlob5706]

Witnessed this live …

[@alfredobadillo2415]

What was it like? What other MCs were present?

[@infomitewon8227]

soundtrack for vandalism 〽😤

[@cmrdt]

right :D

[@djdistinct4706]

I still have this album!! #funcrusherplus

[@sutterkane3949]

It's cool looking back on this. EL-P and Ill Bill to this day are still 2 of my favorite artists and continue to drop great material like Run the Jewels and Coka Nostra today.

[@mo2heaven704]

Wow..the girl. So beautiful and talented

[@simonyricools]

This is like watching the pyramids get built. Amazing footage!

[@yakkodawakko9387]

More presence than attendance in a class of schizophrenics is still one of the dopest lines I've ever heard in my life. Whole track was 🔥

[@vedametatron]

Queen heroin is dope ..this was my group back in the days niggas brought lyrics and independent hip hop to the forefront .

[@PenDanger2]

This video should have 200 million views.

[@vedametatron]

Oh shit !! I didn't even see ill bill back there ha ah ! Dope .

[@eksmarziale5358]

Legend..

[@tommyholiday9880]

A great glimpse into the past!

[@byHexted]

El-P really gave a masterclass here this was absolutely ridiculous

[@cmrdt]

I'm the living circle circle dot dot, nobody can touch me

[@docm4544]

Absolute legends!!! These ppl right here are majorly responsible for the Underground scene shortly after them! Pioneers at this Indy/Underground tip, no one at the time was really exposing the record labels and the shadiness of managers and executives and the whole Industry like these guys were along with Non Phixion, Immortal Technique, JMT, Aesop Rock, Brother Ali, !! That wave fused a lot of babies!!! Thank the Hip Hop GODS!!!

[@liljuve13]

hip hop needs to come back mannnnn, wtf is going on???

[@sumoslap1973]

One day it will come back. Underground always exists. There will be a legendary group again one day I know it, like Company Flow Slum Village and Pharcyde type shit.

[@spek-27]

Come back from where? A lot of the artists from back then are still here making records, so not sure what you're talking about.

[@mc_xyz]

To this day! CLASSIC

[@justinlacek1481]

This really is just hip hop for the most serious and dedicated of heads. A lot of people that bump underground MCs have nsver heard of any of these kids tbh. Maybe El-p/Company Flow. Where I'm from (down south) nobody has heard of any of these guys in the slightest. I went to a show the other night tho with a group out of texas, and the main MC kicked a verse with a dope rhyme schene that referenced celph titled, apathy, vinnie paz, army of the pharaohs

[@ezlrockwell82]

This shit was big in its day. I worked college radio ('96-'99) and these guys (and many others) were charting every month. The underground was dope. Do your googles. Record labels - Rawkus, Hydra, Fondle 'Em, 7Heads, Wreck, Stones Throw (I could go on) all had this shit on lock back then.

[@eee32mmm]

I do!!! My Hip Hop Collection Runs 100,000 league beneath the earth crust and ocean.

[@reason2910]

@@ezlrockwell82 preach

[@egyptianpiffin]

i could listn to Breezly Bruin spit all day...him and roc marciano just got niggas captivated on som other shit..

[@willshintani7846]

thanks for sharing this man

[@ReHtNuGjj]

J-Treds is super sick.

[@GenesisRockwell]

He was actually my favorite from Company Flow. His voice and style was just so sick and intrigued the hell out of me when I was younger.

[@gregc7699]

REAL HIP HOP!!!

[@johnathantopey]

Ill Bill

[@Grerrcal]

Ah when Hip Hop was still cool and funky.

[@travisbuckle5762]

this is real hip hop !!!!!

[@ishmaelkamara2512]

dope mcs from nyc i really miss the 1990's years

[@D-watt7]

feel like time traveling me just watching this right now. dope♥

[@powerendemauz9898]

Damn yo. Never seen this video. This stuff is dope! HIPHOP!!!

[@TheToofpick]

J-Treds, Breeze, and Words all have completely insane flows. Where the hell did J-Treds go?

[@devinkk]

Queen Herawin! FIRE

[@el-one7515]

Incredible! Some of my most favo rappers all time in one line-up. Some of them probably still feeling the side-effects of their raps. Crazy overwhelmed as a tiny european teenager with no internet that time.

[@madstar75]

MY GOODNESS!🎤🔥

[@djdistinct4706]

This should have 10 million views already... but people ain't feeling real hip hop. They claim they do tho lol.

[@GeoStyles]

Fire!

[@yaoblack3579]

E learned so many lessons about music and rhyming from these days. My personal thoughts are that these days and ciphers allowed him to recognize the incredible chemistry he has worth Killer Mike today.

[@TheCherrykye]

J so sick 😩

[@kaodik]

QUnique loving..haha. so dope. I was there but not on camera. dope shit

[@3nochendtimesmusic925]

Lyricism at it's finest.

[@travisbuckle5762]

I miss the old days ... of real hip hip

[@vdav483]

Ill bill!

[@travisbuckle5762]

she is great 👍

[@leibweiss]

this is real hip hop. !!!!!!

[@benimanah]

J treds looks so damn fresh

[@adonis.]

_the group hugs you receive from your support group can't protect you from the bum rush..._ Run The Jewels got the kiddies hype.... EL-P been at the leading edge of hot shit for what 20? years. #adonistunes

[@brianclarke6202]

Couldn't have said it better myself! But I do say that exact thing often.

[@0oidiedinatimemachineo024]

+Adonis Inman "on the wack I keep tabs like Timothy Leary and/or ASCAP" thats my fave line in his verse.. anyway I dig RTJ a lot.. HOWEVER El doesnt spit with the intensity that he used to.. I mean he does on a few songs like the first song on the first RTJ album and shit like that. I donno if its cause hes older or what.. I was thinking maybe he is purposely doing that because Killer Mikes flow is pretty intense so El's slower more calm rapping nowadays is a good contrast to Killer Mikes. OR MAYBE IM OVER THINKING THIS LOL But I wish he still had the style he had on Co Flow and Fantastic Damage. But I realize artists get older and change and evolve haha.

[@alanpage4075]

Whatever happened to Queen Herawin? Ill name and always had a dope flow/bars

[@sumoslap1973]

@@sooperheep she was really good

[@mlindrical]

aah man. too dope. raw hip hop

[@iyaramonk]

Wordsworth killing it. Like usual.

[@chenzenzo]

I bumped the fuck outta this shit in my 92 Honda through Brooklyn!

[@PHASE_4]

Doooooppppeeeee

[@del132]

#GoldenEra

[@0oidiedinatimemachineo024]

Real Rap.

[@tonespacespace]

That's me in the back left with the white headband and my brother Big Diack.

[@leaksmoke9859]

Man j treds is SO FUCKING UNDERRATED. breeze too. They both kill shit

[@Phuzz828]

more talent than the past decadde of rap

[@gepettowins]

wish J-Treds had gotten more play (not in this cypher, just in the industry or whatever), he was dope. I assume the woman spitting is Queen Herawin-she was ill! She did the classic "umm let me see if I can come up with something, uhh not really sure..." and then proceed to just blow the mic apart

[@gepettowins]

words always been nice too

[@3nochendtimesmusic925]

Seriously, he was dope.

[@pioresdiasdamericalatina]

"your insanity is my clarity"

[@bossmans_offie]

Bigg Jus is the king

[@travisbuckle5762]

the kids don’t know

[@rjvernesto.]

Indie hiphop at it's purest.

[@abyss3241]

Indelible! Rawkus days.

[@c0rry]

9:58 !!! (ill bill use el+p words in his freestyle) too sick.... !!!! great video

[@seppukuhiphop]

what track are the lyrics from?.

[@jeromemosley5505]

ILL! This is pure raw! This is a real m.c. cypher!

[@alexjasso3156]

Hip Hop

[@nwoabt.kaiserreich5289]

god old Times.

[@travisbuckle5762]

this is great 👍

[@davidanderson8140]

So epic.

[@andrew8213]

yes. you have just witnessed

[@fellowbloke741]

I'm so stupid I never knew this was breeze brewin, I love clear blue skies that album is 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@leibweiss]

everyone is great 👍

[@Scramboe]

Wordsworth went crazy!! 🔥🔥

[@DC_Grim]

Wordsworth is sick

[@AMKR4Lyfe]

Man, I was born in the wrong decade man, live Fat Beats freestylin & live, though not in Boston Fat Beats but who knows if it was there then. We need more shows like this packed indy hip hop stores with free shows or radio shows like Sway & Tech,and of course Stretch & Bobbito Freestylin local dope emcees n live writtens, hell battles like Scribble Jam, what happened [achemSocialMediaachem]! Fantastic stuff man, props to whoever filmed it wish it was the whole event tho. Cds are a dying medium gotta get people in somehow!! Ill Bill in my fav era of his, Rock from The Arsonists is there: CoFlow, Juggaknots [Is the chick from this & WEIGHT? I assume shes part of Juggaknots but why's she barely on any Indelibles tracks?] & J-Treds [What happened to J Treds?! I've researched & found nothing; sUch an ill emcee, makes no sense He'd quit with a crew that epic, esp with Def Jux on the horizon, like that. [I want a time machine go back & pay for a full Indelible MCs LP of OG material.] Was it the whole Rawkus BS that kept The Indelible MCs from doing an LP?