Murs And Talib Kweli Discuss EL-P And White Rappers In Hip-Hop | People's Party Clip

[@uproxx]

Be sure to check out the full interview Monday!

[@jonsamuels9245]

What song is playin at the end? I know its Talib

[@egonbrainparts245]

@Technews do a little homework on El-p, company flow and def jux if you haven't heard of him. It's really not that absurd of a comparison...

[@rsoissong]

@Technews lol so you know Mr. Lif and Aesop Rock, both of whom put out some of the earliest records on Definitive Jux aka El-P's label, but you don't know El-P himself? You've literally never heard of Funcrusher Plus? Possibly the most important album in the history of what became underground hip hop?

[@bryanharrison3889]

The girl ruined this saying white people dont have to work hard to succeed

[@tapeworm6093]

Bryan Harrison her comment and others like that baffle me, that people think that other ethnic backgrounds don’t struggle due to their skin color? Ignorant as they come

[@gnarwhal7562]

This is what hip hop should be: a community. Guys like El-P remind us of that

[@robdielemans9189]

I'll rephrase that as cultures are meant to be shared.

[@atomicalien4]

​@JefferyTornadothe3rd this is just not true tho. You know that Dave Chapelle joke "that white boy had to do some SHIT" look at guys like jack Harlow.. he should be flipping fucken burgers for a living 🤷‍♂️

[@chunkz1187]

@@HamhocksUnlimited The same era when Dennis Rodman was saying Larry Bird wasn't a good baller and only got recognition because he was white, stop re-writing history

[@MrIlleism]

Slug from Atmosphere should also be mentioned and Ant!

[@bes03c]

Murs seems like the coolest dude to have as a friend.

[@ShantanIchiban]

Can verify Murs is the coolest dude. On camera and real life.

[@mrsicness1]

RIGHT?! he just gives off a vibe like he would be awesome to sit and have the BEST conversations with. he puts off the vibe, through his lyrics and in videos, like he has some deep shit to say, and his music is just a slice of it.

[@ShantanIchiban]

@@mrsicness1 one of those guys who is super talkative and opinionated.. and u realise why he is so prolific lyrically.

[@CivilShepherd]

A Gay friend

[@tumelo4526]

EVER!

[@ToroidalVortexLove]

Big up El P. I loved Company Flow. I loved Cannibal Ox. I love Run the Jewels. I love El P and I'm grateful for his existence.

[@illdrumatik391]

The Cold Vein is still one of the best Hip-Hop album of all time.

[@zwelimdlalose1059]

Dude im from South Africa I use to bump Company flow growing up. El P is a legend, what ever happened to Big Jus

[@bashthefash420]

Cold vein is a flawless album. Def jux was dope too. Aesop rock and Tony hawk's Pro skater got me into hip hop

[@dopenerd5070]

steps to perfection is my all time fav

[@wzpu3283]

Funcrusherplus

[@nasribenzema]

El's production has been top tier since the start, co flow baby say no more

[@ToroidalVortexLove]

RUGGED LIKE RWANDA!

[@drewfleming5584]

Sick rapper as well

[@LookingForAName...]

His rappin is also dope as fuck

[@ekay4495]

@@ToroidalVortexLove Literally listened to FunCrushers Plus because of a comment yesterday

[@g_go.p.1563]

Little Johnny from the hospital

[@dirkvoltaar]

El-P is a legend. One of the finest MC-Producers of all time. Indelible MCs, Company Flow, RTJ. Wild how good he is.

[@ashleybrown4754]

It's also wild how LONG he's been doing it

[@dochollidaysraidersintel6466]

EL-P is the Legend nobody ever talks about. Dude gets no credit. Been a fan Company Flow and like Talib says it's great that he didn't try to own black hip hop.

[@ramonw9430]

I been hearing him mentioned in this light several times recently though. It's about time.

[@ilovemikerogers]

RTJ headlines major festivals all over the world, the fuck you mean he's not talked about??

[@curvytangerine]

@@ilovemikerogers the locals don't know who he is. if you're not a hip hop head, you don't know who he is. hell, even some people who just casually listen to RTJ don't know who he is. they only know Killer Mike. I've seen it happen. "it's Killer Mike and... this other guy!"

[@bfunderb5899]

@@curvytangerine Yeah, I don't think some even some dedicated RTJ fans know the scope of El P's impact at all.

[@atomicalien4]

​@ilovemikerogers nah 100% nobody knows who he is to this day. If you ask someone "you ever heard of run the jewels?" "Yeah". "So you know el-p?" "Who?" And then I have to explain el p to ppl its fucken irritating

[@zislec]

Murs should quit DX and join Talib on this pod. DX is 90% gossip 10% Hip Hop. I really enjoyed this mature convo. 😌👌🏾

[@LouieV6]

zislec Agreed. Talib doesn’t fuck with DX anymore because of son fuckshit they pulled on him.

[@Aaronlovesmusic970]

Murs is a real one

[@DenisSalmon]

100

[@bobbyshewan4229]

Murs is like the one real nigga DX has tho lmao

[@MrFlixke]

@@LouieV6 what did they pull? don't know about that

[@jamesoblivion]

Def Jux is immortal. Such an insane line-up on that label, so many ill collaborations. I still spin Def Jux wax every day.

[@producedbykhireyakeem4340]

Man Def Jux was the best label ever even when they got sued by Def Jam and had to change their name to Definitive Jux

[@0oidiedinatimemachineo024]

same man I still kinda regularly listen to stuff like El P's solo albums, Aesops stuff from Def Jux, Cann Ox, Murs' def jux albums..etc. Been listening to that stuff since I was in highschool and still not really tired of it lol

[@paolo73]

Lord Jamar had a heart attack after this video

[@Cutty_Bronson]

Paolo 73 Ha! no doubt. Would have loved for him to be part of this convo.

[@MightyAsh]

Actual lol

[@kripos2201]

Ye, Lord Jamar can go fuck himself with his bigotry. THAT has no place in hip-hop

[@Joneshing]

White people ARE guests in the house of hip hop.

[@chud8you629]

😂

[@yaoblack3579]

El-P been in my top 20. Dude is one of the illest wordsmiths I came across. When I first heard “The Fire in Which You Burn” and his bars I was hooked. I listened to that shit over and over and over again. Couldn’t bilee that shit. It was transcendental lyricism by every MC on it but for me, his shit was above them all (gonna listen to it again right now). Been a fan since. Respect to Murs & Talib for acknowledging his place in the hip hop firmament.

[@uproxx]

Indelible MC!

[@yaoblack3579]

UPROXX Video Simian drugs.

[@TheBestMovieAlive]

That song sounds like trash, dude…

[@cyanide52]

Man it's still crazy seeing Kweli being such a pioneer for our culture man. Going from the dude i used to chill with in his basement dreaming about making it in the game,to one of the most respected dudes in the game with bars. Now an embassador and voice for us. Man,if you read this King,I'm so proud of you bro. Ya boy Cy.

[@adamquenano8563]

AesopRock and El-P are like the Gods of white rappers

[@hugh_jasso]

Aesop Rock is the sleeptest on ill whiteboi wordsmith emcee in the game.

[@JoeBlue99]

@@hugh_jasso Don't forget about Apathy and RA The Rugged Man.

[@fooglez]

Yall slept. Cage.. Yak Ballz... Sage Francis.. The Grouch... and the God himself EYEDEA.

[@JoeBlue99]

@@fooglez Cage fell off hard.....

[@fooglez]

@@JoeBlue99 Smoking wet will do that to you.

[@Sprite_525]

This was a great example of the difference between “poser who tries too hard because they don’t belong” vs “outsider who tries their best but they love it so they overcome”

[@jonhoskins8737]

The most controversial part of this video is Talib Kweli said that Macklemore is dope

[@Genocide4]

Naw the most controversial part is when he said he opened up for dude for like a year. It's like man you are Talib Kweli. You shouldn't HAVE to open up for no Macklemore.

[@curvytangerine]

lmao right. I cringed.

[@shivzzi]

@@Genocide4 man this is beyond fucked up.

[@hunterericson6782]

Yo that’s messed up

[@dodgerkid05]

I know this was 2 months before the scandal..but he should also censor that atrocious fucking hat...

[@santiagobracho5964]

Yo!! Kweli and Jasmin you guys are dope! Nobody that interviews Murs asks him about El-P or Def Jux. I thought they had beef cus they never mentioned each other. But Kweli is a true rap historian so he knew the connection. Much love from the UK!!

[@MMAGamblingTips]

As a white man nearing 40 I grew up on Murs, TCQ and the Roots. I loved their music. Lord Jamar really had me feeling weird the way he thought about white peoples and hiphop. I’m so glad these guys break it down far more in depth instead of the superficial existence of melanin. I could listen to these intellectual giants talk all day.

[@KUROHiTO88]

Jamar is a racist clown with antiquated ideas about people and art.

[@gepetto8899]

Lord Jamar also said that Macklemore is famous because he makes music that gay people like and gay people secretly run the entertainment business. So...

[@bombtubejamz739]

@@KUROHiTO88 talib ain't innocent himself 😂

[@unc1589]

Superficial middle of melanin? That’s a new one. Are you invalidating your own post?

[@tonelocc9474]

Who tf is the nobody throwing her opinion in the presence of legends !! 😅

[@maxxlawrence3910]

Company Flow. Fantastic damage. So much top tier stuff from El-P

[@mellomusicgroup]

Much respect to Murs. Always offered love and support from the jump. One of the greats.

[@alejandroramirez4470]

el-p definitely has a unique style but he works hard to move upwards. Had a label, some great solo stuff obviously and rtj is like a brand right now.

[@Lebowski55]

This conversation is great. It would’ve been nice to mention Aesop Rock. The guy has managed to become one of the greatest RAPPERS of all time, (a prolific career touching 3 decades) regardless of race and still manages to remain relatively obscure

[@dangerjayneson9487]

Also has the highest vocabulary of any other rapper by at least 1000 words. As in he's used 1000 words that other rappers haven't

[@iyaramonk]

I discovered El and Talib at the same time thanks to Soundbombing Vol.1

[@mucktown]

I still have this CD and Lyricist Lounge Vol. 1.....so many underground pioneers on it

[@treythehardway]

iyaramonk me too! That disc is actually in the current 6 cd changer rotation in the car. Shits still great.

[@rustymixer2886]

@@treythehardway yup

[@OOCASHFLOW]

You mean SB 2?

[@rustymixer2886]

@@OOCASHFLOW soundbombing 1 2 Llounge 1 2 great cd

[@JayJayRealhiphop]

Kweli and Murs.. damn what a combo. Damn they could make some incredible music together. - Good talk about EL-P. I'm listening.

[@17valley]

The Weathermen are all some of the most underrated rappers ever

[@BeatJunkie-mq1tc]

Murs is gettin grey hairs!? F**** im getting old

[@illdrumatik391]

I just turned 30. It's a trip.

[@South99African]

@shaolinWOLF36 Young dudes are getting white hair these days. Even some people younger than me have it. I'm 37 and i'm seeing it too.

[@warnutztheloser]

It Happens

[@msthang5366]

ill Drumatik I just turned 49 in June.. Mind boggling as fuck

[@rasarmusic1]

Had grey hair since I was a child, but I get your point.

[@danmeyersonVideo]

Big props to El-P!

[@travybrown1351]

This is a good chat...love run the jewels mix of new school and old

[@Mr.February]

*"Soon you'll see, as I flow fluently to frequently, another emcee...will drop off the face of this earth, for what it's worth, I've been the nastiest one since birth"* -EL P

[@sezeonerdagod]

thats BMS but yea

[@Dmaccabees]

EL-P is dope 🔥

El Producto was already dope on Company Flow's first album on track's like "8 Steps To Perfection" and "Krazy King's" not to mention "End To End Burner's". But for me homeboy got solidified as the "best white rapper" after I heard him spit on "Patriotism" on the "Soundbombing Vol. 2" album. That's one of the dopest track's in the history of hip-hop music!

[@superintelligentapefromthe121]

Such a dope song.

[@DetroitFettyghost]

Good to see people able to talk about such topics. Big love

[@ssj4goku18825theepic]

El p is one of the most important artist and rappers ever. Top 5 as a rapper and producer all time. He’s the reason you got experimental hip hop like atrocity exhibition, some rap songs, any mike album etc. he’s the reason many rappers like mr lif and more are put on the map. He’s deep and I say that with pride not someone you will go to for bangers or shit necessary. But you will be in a hell of a experience when you realise what he’s talking about and how it shows what society really is heading towards. Show this man the respect he deserves

[@vedametatron]

Fantastic damage is timeless . The shit he did on iron galaxy is my all time favorite hip hop track .i always wanted to see him produce a KRS ONE and a MF DOOM album , he produced a Zack de la Rocha that was never released would have loved to heard that

[@samnur6957]

I have to disagree to the leader of experimental hip hop like atrocity exhibition and other projects because many of his sounds n patterns are based from a bomb squad production. The person who put atrocity exhibition is paul white and those sounds for unique to his production. However el p is a pivotal artist in the underground for a certain section.

[@charlescooper8042]

EL-P a beast at rapping and producing!

[@GonjaSensai]

Fantastic Damage is unmatched.

[@maxhofmann6993]

South Africa, we are here!!!! Kweli, Murs all OF YALL WE LOVE YOU! TIME FLIES, WE ONLY GETTIN OLD

[@benjaman21rottens]

I think Ill Bill and Necro need to he acknowledge also, specially Necro because i feel like He is too under appreciated but the impact his beats have in the underground hip Hop scene worldwide it's undeniable and really amazing, I Say specially Necro because i feel that Ill Bill it's more acknowledge for the fact of being part of La Coka Nostra and being recognized among other legendary rappers like Everlast or B-Real. But man I'm glad El-P gets His well deserved props, His lyricism is one of the illest and his production and entire catalog and history in the music industry it's to be respected

[@brianmarquet2602]

Good call and I feel like u also have to mention cage and mr eon

[@sezeonerdagod]

ill bill is one of my personal favorite rappers. top 5. whats wrong with bill is a perfect album.

[@travisspaulding2222]

I also have to throw in RA the Rugged Man.

[@HolyCity2012]

I remember when End to End Burners was on rotation on Rap City.

[@jamierosino3762]

as a graffiti artist from the tri state in the 90s that was our anthem

[@vict0ree]

Someone go inform Kweli that Hitler didnt build the Berlin Wall.

[@Hanutabluta]

HAHAHAHA damn.. but there were just a few years between both occurrences and you cannot blame US people for not knowing european history

[@jpah8944]

@@Hanutabluta it's world history. I'm a white Australian but I know a lot of about African history. History is history from anywhere on the planet and it's all interesting.

[@RectumPunch]

@@jpah8944 Yeah and I'm from Pluto but I can spell Stroganoff smh gtfo lmao

[@yossarian1633]

*Eyedea* also one of the dopest white mcs ever too, another underrated guy who had an insane flow. Maybe he wasn't underrated but fairly unknown relative to the publicity he deserved that's for sure.

[@kentonthompson4325]

*I hate that everyone forgets about Eyedea and Blind Fury is crazy nice as well... But Eyedea smoked everyone in his path before battle rap was pop.*

[@mariotafoya7203]

EYEDEA CHANGED MY LIFE

[@GenesisRockwell]

Eyedea was very known in the early 2000's in the underground hip hop scene, I was a young kid from Chicago and I knew of him along with Crescent Moon whom he used to freestyle with.

[@GoodxJ]

Long live Eyedea, makes me proud to be from the same city as he was!!! STP stand up!!! MN! 🙏🏻💪✌️🕊🎤📻

[@deveryshepardson3640]

Eyedea was unbelievable! In my top 5 for sure!

[@MarkArandjus]

There's a really simple rule of thumb that'll tell you whether a white artist is legit: are they being themself. If they're 'being black' when that's not who they are outside of the music - that's fake. Your Vanilla Ices, Fred Dursts, and Iggy Azelias. People who use hip hop and rapping to express themselves without being something they're not is the way to go. Dan Bull, old Papa Roach, Beastie Boys, Aesop Rock - lov 'em or hate 'em, at least they weren't being something they're not. The anomaly here would be Snow - he's a white Canadian, but he grew up around Jamaican immigrants in housing projects, so the whole Jamaican rap is not part of his heritage, but it is part of his upbringing.

[@ECXLEvan]

I appreciate you bringing up the "anomaly" here because you're absolutely right but like Snow there are white rappers who's upbringing is more akin to that of the black experience so to call them fake would be unjust. Real recognise real is still alive and true.

[@MarkArandjus]

@Jeremy Backman Audiences were never part of the conversation. Background was. Vanilla Ice grew up in Dallas and Miami, not a poor neighborhood around black kids, his black-talking persona was fake. He himself later in life said it was stupid and apologized for it, there's a video - look it up.

[@tedstriverson5441]

I got to see Murs and El-P in Chicago. Still one of my favorite shows!

[@beatnickclassics]

These episodes are the best.. I need to see this full episode...

[@ChrisCypher]

El-P has always been an inspiration. Both as an artist and as a business model. He was rising as I really started getting into the indie scene. His "independent as fuck" slogan spoke right to my core, because he was doing things his way and being successful at it. Then as an artist, he's crafted a whole sonic universe. No one really sounds like him as a producer, or as a rapper. And watching him evolve from being ill in Company Flow (but letting dense lyrics get in the way of flow), to learning to be dense with much better timing..and seeing that same evolution with his beats after going solo. Even when my musical explorations took me away from hip hop for years, his releases would always be ones I come back to check for and always be impressed by.

[@johnyleans]

Company Flo was the shit. EL-P is just a cool as dude.

[@alexanderclaylavin]

That one El-P/Murs track with the double time flows is still fresh

[@101iswhatsup]

I remember buying underground hip-hop magazines, their promo was as nice as the music at Def Jux. El-P is a legend, I'm glad he's still getting his shine. As dope as Sound bombing was, it takes brass to start your own movement, look back at your former management, and tell them you'd "rather be mouth-fucked by Nazis unconscious" than work with them again. That's a cold burn.

[@wormsali]

This interviews gone be fire

[@Meekmillan]

Murs just looks like he knows the meaning of life and where Tupac is hiding at

[@requestcontainsinvalidargu185]

Where tupac is at lmao. You killed me bro

[@shuajoblake1166]

On God 😂😂

[@JayJayRealhiphop]

😂👌✨🤘

[@dubkonnection3420]

33?

[@Meekmillan]

@@dubkonnection3420 33rd degree, highest order

[@MrDef3y3]

Murs and El-P some of my favorite rappers/producers to ever do it!

[@MachiavellisThePrince]

Murs and Kwe with a legitimately introspective talk about the industry. Expect nothing less but still really astute.

[@dudeskeela]

Young girl has some learning to do. Her statements display a clear lack of understanding of nuance. If you think "going corporate" has more to do with skin color than background, you are ignorant. Young Em would've had an impossibly difficult time getting a white collar job, being a high school dropout and from an impoverished family. The lady is trying to turn a class issue into a race one.

[@michaelvelotta4896]

She’s fuckin stupid as shit

[@3vergiven]

Kind of glad they just brushed her off and went "Yeah ..." instead of engaging her.

[@ramonw9430]

Right? He grew up in the trailer park. That's the white version of the projects. He grew up poor as fuck and worked shitty blue-collar jobs. Poor people don't get the education that rich people do. That's because it's all based on property taxes. The poorer your neighborhood, the worse the school generally. Even if the school is predominantly white. The cast system in the US is a 2-tier system. It is based on race AND money. I used to think just like this girl until I moved to Central California and actually met white people in the projects and in the hood.

[@plain-bagel]

She only echoed the arguments offered by Murs and Talib, so not sure why you’re singling her out...

[@stuartmoorhead]

Saying any white person can just basically walk into corporate America is retarded. I hate the term white privilege because it focuses on race. Of course some people do have privileges, many of them are white. Mostly it's class privilege, hell you can even have language privilege. Do you think a white Polish person with poor English is not going to struggle in a society dominated by the English language? These people have privileges they don't even recognize because they're always focused on whitey

[@justusbraz]

Man, I could listen to Murs talk all day. Put him together with Talib Kweli and my day is made. This is approaching Rick Rubin interviewing Kendrick Lamar level.

[@djdesign_]

This was a very good convo. As an artist in a group from that era, I worked with a white rapper, Prozack and a black rapper, Marc Stretch. There was this thing also with the white producer. I made a song for Rasco, and he couldn't believe "Keithy" made that? PB Wolf was like, nah Keith makes dope beats. And that's how I got to do the song What It's All About with Rasco. At first, and even Rasco acknowledged it to me last year, he was like, "I didn't think you'd have any hot beats but I was wrong" 😂

[@jamestaylor9151]

Can't believe I just saw this clip. Fantastic Damage, I'll Sleep When Your Dead, Impossible Kid, Labor Days and more stay in my rotation of favorite albums. Early El-P and Aes are super underrated.

[@fairplayterrific147]

Company Flow Yes Yes.... Brother Ali, Alchemist, Evidence, Action Bronson, Apathy, Ill Bill, Slaine, Esoteric.......

[@crahm1]

Add Edan, the humble magnificent to that list.

[@gzus213]

Evidence is not white?

[@fairplayterrific147]

@@gzus213 Are You Asking Or Stating He Isn't.....

[@fairplayterrific147]

@@crahm1 And White Or Not To Add On The List Ryu, Celph Titled, RA The Rugged Man, Scoop Deville, Open Mic, Louis Logic, Eternia, The Four Owls, Your Old Droog, Akir, Immortal Technique, Big Pun Maaaaaaan The List Goes On.....

[@timespacexploratory]

Atmosphere

[@JEStheUniversual]

I have always idolized and respected EL-P. I still do. I’ve followed his entire career, from Official Records all the way to RTJ. I remember chilling on Ozone Music forums and we used to build with the entire crew before there was even a DefJux. El-P was so humble and kind to his fan base back then. Even though I still love his work, he did change over the years as a person as he started to gain fame, wish he was the same EL-P from the past, but I get it. I still consider him a pioneer and a legend. Someone who I will always idolize. Great interview.

[@DendyJungle]

What's sad is that the last thing isn't true any more. Post malone doesn't love hip hop. He didn't even do it for that long. He became famous soon after he started rapping. All his tattoos are rock singers.

[@CharlieA24]

Post Malone is not a rapper. He never was. He's more of a pop star than anything really.

[@TheOnlyBliss]

@@CharlieA24 his first hit single white Iverson is clearly HEAVILY trap influenced.

[@CharlieA24]

@@TheOnlyBliss But he doesn't rap in that song AT ALL.

[@p.f.h.2146]

Post is a culture vulture. He doesn't like or respect Hip Hop, or our people for that matter. His stance on BLM speaks volumes.

[@RABoog77]

El Producto is one of the GOATS on the mic and the board. Huge influence on those of us that used to dabble. I blew an opportunity to be on Co Flow’s street team back in the day. Huge mistake. Lol

[@emiequality]

Kweli at his finest with this podcast. Bigups, definitely a great interviewer and living historian of the culture in all its forms.

[@aaronlevy6054]

Really awesome seeing someone give El-P some credit. Run The Jewels is the top 🎩 of the game 🎯 👑🤛

[@nosey1982]

No one ever mentions R.A. Rugged man

[@n.montague743]

"I thought I was the illest until I heard RA" - Biggie

[@ramonw9430]

@@SingeSabreClassic I see what you did there.

[@ramonw9430]

@@n.montague743 RA and Biggie used to cruise the hood in Biggie's car back in the day.

[@TonySakich]

Or ICP truthfully....

[@DCtheDemonChild]

@@n.montague743 Rugged Man has co signed Jamar's comments. Jamar also shouted out Apathy, Vinnie Paz and RA

[@nathanw3599]

heavy hitters all around. respect. no bests, just greats! Grateful for this podcast.

[@KDkorMEvol2]

Aesop n Eyedea are on my top 3 of all time. The most slept on.

[@KDkorMEvol2]

@SCP-939 have u listened to any of his albums?

[@ekay4495]

@@KDkorMEvol2 I mean he probly did if loves his stuff

[@KDkorMEvol2]

@@ekay4495 in order to have an opinion on an artist you need to listen to at least one full album, thats how i see it. Aesop got so many diffrent albums im sure evrey rap fan could appreciate some of his work, he puts a lot into it.

[@GenesisRockwell]

Our golden era of hip hop is the best, 90's kids forever, word up.

[@alanbalderson9765]

I like how Murs patiently lets home girl say her piece and then says "yeah" and just continues on talking about his point.

[@TheBatman602]

Had no idea Kweli had a podcast. Copping that shit right now.

[@jurassicmarc77]

This whole interview was dope.

[@9009matorres]

Watching this interview is good for me. I was listening to RTJ4 and wondering how good of a rapper is EL P really. We all know that killer mike is almost God level MC but El P flow is crazy. His voice isn’t as demonstrative as killer Mike’s but his word play and lyrics are just as intricate. Big ups to El P

[@Kobra_Commander15]

Im glad el is finally getting the respect he deserves. True Hip hop Veteran.

[@ChrisCypher]

El-P always got respect. Rawkus was a MOVEMENT in the late 90's and his group Company Flow kicked that off. That was how a lot of people even first heard of Talib Kweli. Plus, his label Def Jux was one of the biggest indie hip hop labels in the 2000's. El-P is just appreciated by a different audience now ever since RTJ. ...but in the broader sense, yeah, I still think he's grossly underrated and under many's radar.

[@bricksanchez9016]

I love seeing this kind of nuanced conversation from two legendary emcee's I came up bumping

[@treythehardway]

And, El-P’s favorite flavor of gas is mustard.

[@melaninarmour8920]

Now thats true "Patriotism" my friend lol

[@aaronvail7237]

I'm white and from the south Louisiana 337, BR, N.O.,, and personally I feel more comfortable in hip hop than in "corporate America". And y'all right we gotta come with it and extra to even get a nod. But hey that's hip hop either you got it or you don't no matter what race. Big props to y'all for understanding that we not all culture vultures. I got culture appreciation and pay homage to the masters of the mic that got me hooked on this art. murs, you kill it with tech EVERY time, love your open mind and acceptance

[@thedeadpresidentsvevo5871]

Murs The Legend🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@bk2bx83]

8 steps to perfection company flow is B side Stretch and Bob classic...

[@tyant834]

Would have been funny if they were listing dope white rappers an Murs had Diabolic on his list.

[@rnfr]

Refreshing to hear this. Here’s to a higher understanding for all peoples.

[@SoggyMoppenheimer]

El-P's 'Truancy' from his Fantastic Damage album is one of the best coming-of-age in hiphop song ever. Really an AMAZING song. El-P is fucking official.

[@SoggyMoppenheimer]

Murs and Kweli both official as fuck, too! Didnt want to imply they weren't. Been rocking Talib since The Manifesto and Murs since his 3:16 Project with 9th(1st one).

[@mukkah]

Fucking love everything he's done / doing to change shit UP in this world. Painfully aware of how fucked shit is and the struggles. Big respect to him, Killer Mike and everyone standing up for what they believe in. Bro inspires me to not give up, even in the darkness that covers the horizon.

[@hutch13pbbc]

MURS: " but up to now - you only had 3rd bass!" - knowledge every time.

[@nopenotthatguy8678]

These 3 would kill a track together 🙏 respect all

[@HeatFilter]

2:00 Lil Pump is latino; Mex mom, Cuban pops.

[@cacklingfuel]

Still white

[@jtheproducer5170]

I really needed this thanks UPROXX! 👿🔥💀

[@thomasholmes536]

I met Murs in San Diego in 1996 gave him Vitals signs tape.

[@angelocaudle93]

Thomas Holmes shouts to the 619/760

[@aidenglennon8782]

Smiled when Talib mentioned he opened up for Macklemore because I was at one of those shows in Boston. Gave me a flashback

[@manifestjordan1735]

4:48 "They could just walk through a corporate office." That's not at all how that works...

[@crazytrainrc6634]

Right! False Statements like that is what fuels the rasicim hate we have in America that should exist

[@heythere6804]

I'm white and they would laugh my ass out that office...

[@bluecollarbud6345]

Walk on to a jobsite and break your back for 10 or 12 hours is more like it ....come it a try ....easy money 🤣🤣🤣

[@manifestjordan1735]

@@bluecollarbud6345 Right, I've worked in labor for 6 years, moving produce, firewood operation... definitely wasn't the same as, "walking into a corporate office" like she says. Just goes to show the lack of respect people have for the effort it takes to get a well-paying, stable job.

[@samkremer1766]

Point is that it's easier for wbite people in a corporate setting than it is for black people. There is nothing in that statement that can be effectively debated.

[@BlackHammer0891]

Sis came in and was like “hold up”. Straight queen.

[@EdwinLopez-hf3uw]

We need that Run the Jewels + Black Star collab album

[@idonthavemonkey]

There's so many haters accusing white rappers of appropriation, and on the other hand fanboys who treat eminem like a god. It's refreshing to listen to these guys being totally objective about white rappers, their struggles and benefits.

[@CoolHandLukeDuke]

A lot of us White dudes in our late 30's -early 50's, grew up in the Hip-Hop culture. We had embraced the culture long before we even knew what the word appropriation meant. Most of us were probably using the N-word with our Black friends, before anyone (including them) knew the deeper history of the word and truly understood that it wasn't a word that should be used by Caucasians, regardless of the circumstances. I respect these two legends for the respectful way they approach this topic. Yes, Macklemore is dope at what he does. So many people clown him, but his skill is undeniable and he has a historical consciousness, of both history and Hip-Hop history. Being White definitely made him commercially viable, as it did with the Beasties and Shady. Now, there are a shit ton of White Rappers who do not get their just due. RA the Rugged Man has been a fucking BEAST for like 25+ years, and most people have no clue of who he is or couldn't name one of his songs. His skin hasn't helped his career, to this point, even though he's lyrically a Top 10 Rapper on any list. Also, ya'll need some Marlon Craft in your life. You can thank me later.

[@KUROHiTO88]

Marlon Craft is one of my favorite young rappers. Along with Joyner Lucas and Token.

[@CoolHandLukeDuke]

@@KUROHiTO88 - Do me a solid and check out Justin Freeman, too. That kid should be huge, but is highly slept on.

[@KUROHiTO88]

@@CoolHandLukeDuke Gat dayum! This cat is the truth! I recommend JF to anyone reading this.

[@CoolHandLukeDuke]

@@KUROHiTO88 - He's honestly too deep for casual listeners and for me, he's pretty much in a league of his own. I've been listening to Hip-Hop for some 38 years and Justin is one of the most gifted I've ever heard.

[@neergcorp6320]

If you had black friends that let you say the n word around you they were a bunch of sellouts I'm from ny and that shit didn't happen and if by chance did after I slapped the taste out Spanish or white boy they never said it again not out of fear but out of respect

[@NeopToIemy]

Murray's Revenge always in rotation. I learned of Murs/Living Legends from a white rapper, Slug due to the Felt albums. Been a fan ever since.

[@danielbaker7107]

It isn't racial. It's economic. I'm a poor, white boy and nothing has been easy for me. It's a big club, and we ain't in it.

[@jinxstixx4641]

Def Jux gave me one of my favorite rap albums ever...The Cold Vein

[@DinoMaita]

The hell is she talking about? “they can just go walk into a corporate office”

[@kerose]

you didn't know? I didn't even have to go to school.. i just walked in and asked for my assignment, told them the whites had sent me. Pretty standard.

[@RBRap22]

It's much easier to get hired as an incompetent white person, than a normal black person, and I can confirm this from my company, you gotta work twice as hard.

[@DirtyRedMuzik]

Trey Buechler lmao

[@DirtyRedMuzik]

Victims of their own insecurities.

[@Justin-dy2sm]

Gonna go off on a limb here an guess she was being hyperbolic..

[@bberg82]

Murs was the reason I got into Hip-Hop

[@sdaly415]

Always love Murs as a person. And he steadily makes good tracks.

[@ndx2k]

Company Flow changed my life

[@archiguru]

Cage Kennylzzzz!!!!

[@ultramag.7]

Alex the Worm King👍

[@baythagod]

He was good for a few years, he’s been TRASH for a decade now..... try again..

[@archiguru]

@@baythagod Copywrite? Ill Bill? Justin Beiber?

[@joegrst]

I've had some problems with Talib and the way he interacts with so me of his fans but this came across very open minded and loving. He's human, as we all are, and I can't judge him on anything. I also love Murs man, always been one of my fav MCs growing up.

[@julioarcaiko]

You can tell Murs is such a wise guy. He’s not about that race pity shit. He understands the struggle is different, with its own challenges, depending on where you’re from and how you look. Love his vibe.

[@euphoricmonk]

yeah that chick kept talking about victimhood bs, she's trying to push a false narrative.

[@neergcorp6320]

What the fuck race pit shit mean

[@balsalmalberto8086]

@@euphoricmonk She was adding nothing to the conversation, just cut her opinions out and nothing is lost.

[@ndujamz]

Dope. Murs and 9th album is currently in my playlist. Thats song SIN touched my heart.