Rappers Can No Longer Sellout Arenas

The rap concert scene is changing right in front of our eyes. And being a big draw is becoming harder and harder. This video illustrates some of the changes happening. #rap #hiphopartist #hiphop
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[@gabbywitt873]

Music festivals got people’s perceptions screwed up. A 1500 capacity venue is not small if you selling it out. Maybe I’m tripping. Let me know of these rappers that aren’t legacy acts (Kanye, Nicki, TI, Kendrick, Drake, etc) that were ever doing arenas? The videos of people in front of big ass festival crowds convinced people that this is the norm, when it NEVER was. Arenas were always reserved for the elite. Legit global superstars whose fan bases were built over the course of years of touring from 300-500 capacity rooms, to 1k-1500, 2k-5k, amphitheaters (at which point ur tour is making multiple Ms) , and if ur truly great you do SOME arenas in SOME cities. If anything there are more rappers selling out arenas than before.

[@RoyalTy37]

I agree music festivals killed concerts

[@Eonis]

Exactly! Fans and the rapper’s teams allowed festivals to put up a smoke screen. In reality only legacy acts can do that and that includes singers. Russ is independent but sells out arenas. Also in the past ticket prices were much cheaper.

[@channelZER01]

​@Eonis selling pur an arena and selling put of available tickets are two separate things. Meaning if russ performs at an arena and has say 50k tickets for sale and they sell them all. The perception would be that he sold out the arena and that's not necessarily the case

[@jameslight4391]

Doing arenas is bad for a legit global superstar real superstars do stadiums like Taylor Swift and Beyonce. Arenas are for big stars but not superstars

[@Toastfacekillah87]

I dont even like arena gigs. I prefer smaller venues. Hip-hop is just better in a smaller place where there are more opportunities for crowd interaction

[@goldenovaries]

That’s the consequence of being a singles artist. If you can’t create cohesive albums that fans grow and connect with you’ll never be able to sell out arenas

[@Toastfacekillah87]

TikTok too. The industry focus on using the platform to promote music and the act of tailoring tracks to get it popular on there hurt music in the long term.

[@mikelbaningo6407]

Nah man hip hop is dying right now 😭 our artist are struggling to sell tickets 😩🤦

[@whatthehellizgoingon]

and the music genuinely sucks.

[@mahito2570]

@@mikelbaningo6407 over saturated industry xD everyone rapping the same shit nothing new

[@bigspiritual577]

Your Favorite Artist is a Sell out…. U get what u give…. F… them…. Most artist mislead the youth and you grown ups.. it’s called crowd control.. y’all supporting satanic people

[@nameisamine]

Meanwhile, sleepy songstress Lana Del Rey, Afrobeats acts like Burna Boy, Latin acts like Bad Bunny & Karol G, and top Kpop idols are stadium acts 🏟️ (and black people finding that money to see Burna Boy’s show). I saw Nicki’s arena tour in London, it was sold out. Meg and Doja Cat are touring arenas too and selling tickets. Doja’s tickets weren’t easy to get (she did team up with Ice Spice & doechii). I’m in Europe though. We show up when the Americans come through esp if they don’t frequently come here for shows.

[@junyaiwase]

$95 to come see ice spice is crazy

[@kaloratokowa6338]

💀😭

[@ricopena2053]

That was the price of a Prince ticket. But then again I remember when festivals were $100 per day.

[@jeremiahmitchell6398]

95 for a woman with ass music that’s twerking no talent fr

[@unknownasf4]

Thats cheap…😂 if ykyk

[@reaps2661]

Not even including plane or possible hotel costs

[@Imgdhjj]

Chris, Gunna and Nicki have sold out despite the public criticizing them. All you need to do is have a loyal fan base and good music to sell out.

[@AJ-zl1sr]

On the part of die hard fan bases, it’s because most of these new age rappers don’t bother to build a relationship with their fans. People like Nicki & Tyler talked back & forth to their fans on Twitter & Instagram. They did interviews which showcased their personalities which helped build parasocial relationships. Meg & Cardi have also managed to do this. New age rappers don’t do that as much, even if you like the music, there’s no personal connection to it.

[@devonharvey8414]

Fans don’t need to talk to their favorite rappers to have a connection with them, that stems from the artist personality and music

[@BeenBenji]

I mean there’s artists like Yeat and the rest of Opium who don’t say anything to their fans and still sell out venues

[@AllTheArtsy]

they dont need to talk to their fans. they need to make music that speaks to their fans

[@smartybabytv5547]

Parasocial relationships are bad and lame but I feel u ur right

[@heywetsi4209]

Proud of Nicki, Kendrick, Drake and Jcole. The MOUNT RUSHMORE OF 2010,s are still on TOP running the game!!

[@ayevisualz8726]

Yessir

[@scodboiihottboi2674]

Well Travis did a whole tour selling only arenas

[@channelZER01]

Ill never forget. I had the chance to see schoolboy q early on in his career for like 12 bucks. My friend's convinced me to go with them to some indie show...anyway next summer schoolyboy q tickets were like 6x more

[@HUNGRYFLOWER98]

They $40 for the 1 im goin to in atl next month lol

[@hmm3041]

Future and metro are going on tour and tickets are now $62 for Sept. in WA Seattle for the 200+ seat areas. That’s cheaper than ice spice. I would rather go to see future than ice spice.

[@obamadidyourmom]

How much the floor or like closest u can get cost?

[@DueceSpice]

BECAUSE THEIR TICKETS WASNT SELLING..

[@SPACECOWBOY705]

Ics Spice askin 90 while Kendricks upcoming show was 50 bucks before resellers got their hands on them.... Now they're 300 or more

[@HUNGRYFLOWER98]

Nahhh. Is official concert for Mr morale prices were CRAZY

[@SPACECOWBOY705]

@@HUNGRYFLOWER98 yeah that's the tour I'm sure you spittin.... But this show was 50 dollars once upon a time

[@zephaniahcollins8627]

Should also factor in the economic hardships in general that folks are dealing with this decade, & the fact that rap/hip-hop fans are usually adjacent to communities most affected by financial hardships. There are very valid complaints about some sectors of hip-hop & how it’s damaged the genre, but we shouldn’t start using business metrics to quantify the genre as a whole. Lil Boosie is triple diamond if you count the amount of times “Set It Off” has been played at a get-together in the South.

[@1224jm]

People were spending $$$ for drake. Even putting it on the credit card and not paying it

[@ji.2784]

Don’t down play Megan. Her tour is Sold Out in every city. I actually went to her concert and she is great performer. Megan actually sold out her concerts because of her brand name alone and Nobody really came to see Glorilla . To say Glorilla is the same caliber as Megan is crazy . They are non the same

[@penelopesanchez1679]

He’s trippin

[@bkburnaz]

For the money they put behind Megan and the promotion she should be selling like Niki in her prime but she still doing double triple booking shows and festivals. The math don't add up. Megan had beyonce level type promo in 2020

[@ji.2784]

@@bkburnaz Nicki’s first tour barely sold 1 million and she had the back of cash money at the time . Megan is an independent artist , no one is putting money behind her but herself

[@bkburnaz]

Megan is independent ? signed to crawl Crawford then rock nation while jay z collecting Grammys for Meg and beyonce at that 2021 show? That's not independence. She's independent now in 2024 and couldn't sell out stadiums dolo back then and still can't today.

[@ji.2784]

@@bkburnaz Megan is no longer signed to 1501. Even when she was with them she paid for her own promotion and distribution. ROC Nation is a management company, so Megan pays them with her earnings to promote her albums business ventures. Hope that helps clarify

[@everydaygrailsatx4707]

1500 is a good size venue if u been to enough concerts, but its like 75 dollars for people you never heard of and they used to be like 25 dollars a show

[@cashcarti8532]

I think it has more to do with artists having a story that audiences can relate to. Drake, Tyler, Travis and even Chris Brown (yes) will give you experiences that the music alone doesn’t do. Most rappers just wanna karaoke their way through their performances.

[@Obie_24]

I’ve seen Drake 3 times & he’s not a good performer imo.

[@goonetek]

@@Obie_24Foreal, putting him in a list with TYLER & CHRIS FUCKIN BROWN!!?!!! Delusional asf.

[@dannyfz]

@@Obie_24maybe but hes an exception. hes such a big rapper that he doesnt need to be good

[@tuelzalt]

​@@dannyfzyeah when ur top you dnt really need to be good preforming anymore... it definitely helps still look at Beyonce but it's not needed if you dnt want to cus ppl will still come if your a drake level

[@mikelbaningo6407]

Nah man hip hop is dying right now 😭 our artist are struggling to sell tickets 😩

[@zeezy8054]

this is why latin artists like bad bunny and rauw alejandro's concerts are in such high demand, especially rauw alejandro who literally has entire choreographies for his stage sets and hes the main dancer of those choreographies WHILE he's singing his songs fully with barely any backtracking vocals from the original songs, latin artists in general at the moment are just better performers and this is why if youre tapped in with latin music there is SO much electric buzz about the current tours that are happening and about potential future ones and i know so many people in real life who are actually actively involved in buying tickets to latin artist concerts . and that number of people is WAY more than i know people buying tickets for rappers, the only people i know whos bought a ticket for a rapper recently other than myself was like two people who saw drake a bit of time ago and one friend going to the antagonist tour which got cancelled ( i was supposed to go as well) however i know about 10 people who recently saw bad bunny and i know 3 or 4 people who are going to see feid in mid july... maybe its just because i live in miami but i still feel like this should say something

[@JusticeLong3317]

It’s because you live in Miami. Since Miami has a heavy Latino/Hispanic population it would make sense for them to be booming there. However, I’ve never known anyone to play or go see Bad Bunny or Rauw Alejandro where I live.

[@mikelbaningo6407]

I can't believe it 😭😭 hip hop is dying right now 😭 our artist are struggling to sell tickets 😩

[@prod.bypanya4355]

not to mention the danger aspect of going to a concert might be also putting people off.. not saying that is the reason but people might be avoiding concerts for that or might be one of the reasons

[@mikelbaningo6407]

Nah man hip hop is dying right now 😭 our artist are struggling to sell tickets 😩

[@axelaxelrod9006]

You made some good points. I’ve worked in the concerts / touring and live events field for 5 years. Part of what makes concerts so expensive are the expenses that go into the concert (production, hotels, hospitality, staffing etc.) but also the artist’s pay. The reason those Ice Spice tickets are like $95 must mean she’s making at least a good $50k on that show and probably more if it’s a versus deal. The other thing that people misunderstand about arenas is that it’s not easy to sellout an arena. You really have to have massive crossover appeal and/or be a major legacy act or just have a diehard fanbase as you mentioned. But one thing I would add is that it also depends on the city and the genre. Cities with large populations and hip hop communities might host a rapper at the local sports arena. But cities like Phoenix just don’t bring those kinds of crowds and promoters know that. That’s why a rapper doing an amphitheater in LA might do a theatre in Phoenix. Most American cities just do not meet that kind of demand for hip hop.

[@lucag.lisickza425]

great comment

[@mikelbaningo6407]

The amount of wisdom and genius in what this guy is saying is crazy 💀 u love the point you made when you said 21 savage performs too much so people aren't really willing to see him again

[@ynfeli8987]

I went to Travis Scott’s opening show in Charlotte North Carolina last year for the Utopia tour and even Travis Scott & Teezo Touchdown Couldn’t sell out the Charlotte Hornets arena it was hella seats so not even A list Celebrities are safe.😂

[@scodboiihottboi2674]

Bro North Carolina is a bot place

[@lux7459]

That concert was fun as hell! I got a nosebleed ticket for 7 bucks from seatgeek and snuck into the pit.

[@Derekdach344]

How does he not have atleast 100k mad good content

[@kingoo3901]

Rod wave is one artist doing tours 30 city tours & selling out his fan base is dedicated as hell

[@Goyarxrd]

He’s actually talented that’s why

[@bkburnaz]

Music connecting that's why, he actually making people feel something

[@yahshuayoungeenthenewwave6445]

Facts I went to his concert shi was amazing. The thing is his music actually has meaning that’s what made me a big fan his music so relatable

[@tammyrogers5359]

Only artist like Michael Jackson, prince , and Beyonce could really sell out tour because those didn't really go on tour like that it was "once in a lifetime" to go see them

[@Cornbreadfed82]

Idk why you have Kendrick Lamar on the thumbnail. His last tour: " Mr. Morale and The Big Steppers" grossed over 110 million dollars and was the most successful tour in Hip Hop history. And he just sold out the Forum.

[@ceeitrus]

i think a huge component to this is that most of these people don’t want to work and have no professionalism, like you said, they showing up late to shows, they stand around and play karaoke to their songs, and they just leave on a whim when they don’t feel like working anymore, why would ppl be invested in seeing you in concert when you hardly want to perform and don’t respect the craft of professionalism and performance art, I just think it’s audacious how these rappers have -0 stage presence or performance skill, yet want to charge ppl hundreds of dollars to see them in concert when they can only deliver mediocrity

[@mikelbaningo6407]

Nah man hip hop is dying right now 😭 our artist are struggling to sell tickets 😩😫🤦

[@ceeitrus]

@@mikelbaningo6407 it’s dying bc these ppl don’t care about doing their jobs, this new generation of rappers have gotten exponentially more lazy and rely on their insular fanbases to get them by, and it’s not just happening in rap it’s happening in pop too, nobody wants to be the best in their genre, they don’t want exposure outside of their pre-existing fanbase, yet think they can sell out a 25k arena show

[@mikelbaningo6407]

Nah man hip hop is dying right now 😭 our artist are struggling to sell tickets 😩

[@AllTheArtsy]

Kendrick was making mixtapes for 10 years before he got his major label debut. He was touring small locations even for TPAB. The newer rappers right now think their streaming numbers can translate to hard ticket sales, but of course not. Most of them dont even know how to perform live.

[@BrookEngland-do3uh]

I think the main issue is that ppl are comparing every artist to artists like Kendrick, Drake, Nicki, Ye etc…these are huge artists who have fan bases. It’s normal for smaller artists to be at smaller venues. It’s too much pressure on these other artists

[@zairethinker]

Its not just rappers, J Lo and Justin Timberlake were struggling as well, stop pushing a certain narrative to denigrate Hip Hop

[@tammyrogers5359]

He's not wrong though the hip hop is taking the main hit though.

[@Bigchamb55]

These are hip hop/R&b collaborative/influenced artists as well.

[@BeautifulEarthJa]

He's talking about the concerts he goes to...

[@zairethinker]

@@tammyrogers5359 he is wrong, artist in all genres are struggling

[@bx_718stryker7]

No s--t sherlock. His topic is about rappers. If he wanted to speak on all music his title would have said otherwise. His focus is on how rap music is not doing well when it comes to concerts because that is what he listens to.

[@freezhollywood]

What’s also crucial is the accessibility to their fans. Remember a decade ago when ur fav rapper was super active on social media and would talk to fans. Now they use social media to just promote. Look at Chris brown. His tour having no issues and look what he offers for the meet n greet. He goes viral for it daily. In today’s age with low albums sales etc the last thing artists should be doing is adding mystique and building a wall between their fans.

[@AllTheArtsy]

in case you dont know, for Taylor Swift's Eras Tour, she actually incorporated a "surprise song" portion where in every city she plays 2 different songs/medleys and people are gaming the days they attend so they can maybe get a specific song or whatever. that will be cool for rappers to incorporate too because for the most part, they just have the hits that theyre constantly performing. but, you have to build up a good enough catalogue to have deep cuts like that

[@RapPhilosophy]

You’ll be surprised which rappers can sell out. I saw A Boogie in NYC. Massive stadium. Completely sold out. Everyone in the crowd singing line by line to every song. It’s not typically the artists doing the most on social media

[@amenx]

That’s because it was in nyc

[@Zookah-wv5zn]

You should talk about how first week sales “POTENTIALLY” ruined hip - hop and how it changed people’s thoughts on albums

[@ALCEU-qz8rm]

Do you think we are seeing rap leaving the mainstream spot of music? Like, every new big artist right now that is being quoted to be super stars are kinda outside of rap... Of course that are rap artists becoming big but if you think for a second, there isnt a Pinkpantheress in rap for example, you know? Someone that people already can see that longterm career, her fanbase grows bigger everyday, she collabs with a big helm of artists from different genres... And I feel like rap aint the cool thing anymore like it was in the last 10 years... We dont have artists being truly meaningful to the culture like we had when Tyler, Rocky, Carti and others artists were coming up in the last decade.. Thats the reason a feel like we dont value Tyler The Creator enough. He literally creates whole worlds in his live performances, he has coreography, stage design, singing, brings out people, changes costume, he does everything and has better music than most of these rappers that has bigger numbers than him...

[@Obie_24]

Apart of it is several of the artist who were supposed to be apart the next wave died. For example, X, Juice & Pop Smoke. Tbh I lowkey hope country & Pop music take over the 1st n 2nd spot of music. So Hip Hop can come home. We can fix issues that exist in the music & culture. Then put gates up around hip hop. Also, fixing/repairing hip hop would result in Rap music getting better.

[@tuelzalt]

​@@Obie_24yes fr... it's too popular now. Like when something becomes too popular it becomes corny. Rap use to be the thing the mainstream hated. The parents would hate for you to become a rapper which made it kool. Now the parents be tryna rap. I hope country takes over fr let us have hiphop back. You got presidents tryna be kool taking about JayZ this and that. Got teachers and all that like it's lame af now

[@obamadidyourmom]

@@tuelzaltgood point

[@obamadidyourmom]

@@Obie_24completely agree w the deaths. The people who were there to pass the baton after have all passed. Juice and x , not too sure bout pop but his personality was there , still needed to see more music, but they would prob be selling crazy and that woulda kept that new era of rap alive and prolly helped it evolve into something better and more suitable

[@mannyharmon5094]

Online clout got them thinking they can do arenas.

[@NoirNameless]

Combination of things. A lot of new artists don’t really have fanbases, they have listeners. So people won’t show up to their shows, but they’ll listen to their little TikTok viral songs. Artists being late/not showing up to shows soured the experience (happened to me with Travis in Chicago last year). And artists overestimate their reach by booking shows they aren’t big enough for. There’s still artists that can pack out arenas, it’s just only a few. But yeah, this is sad.

[@ihyneeko]

I want to go see partynextdoor so bad, but $130 for GA and a smaller venue? Absolutely not

[@Darnellgenard]

Imagine paying 100$ to see ice spice 😂😂😂

[@AmandaabnamA]

Thank you for acknowledging having to buy tickets for you AND your partner. Bruv so many things I would splurge on for myself but I can't cause we both don't got it like that rn

[@yotamiharari]

I saw Kendrick at the moda center in Portland sold tf outa that shit

[@SPACECOWBOY705]

You think Cole can?

[@sontho6995]

​@@SPACECOWBOY705Cole could, along with Tyler.

[@CeeBee3ThatBoy]

Ehhh. Nicki, Meg, Drake, Kendrick, Travis, etc are all selling like hot cakes on their arena tours.

[@DueceSpice]

THOSE ARE THE FEW HE SAID CAN DO IT..BUT THATS A SMALL PERCENTAGE WHICH IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN ONLY A SMALL FEW.FOR THE 99% OTHER RAPPERS THEY WILL HAVE TO PERFORM 100 SHOWS.THEN YOU MUST DONT UNDERSTAND HOW LIVE NATION WORKS

[@iusedtobepay]

I address Meg in the video

[@DallasChick79]

​@iusedtobepay Yeah, you did, but you kinda said it as if Meg needs Glorilla there as if she's not a heavy hitter on her own (which is laughable). Meg is lifting Glorilla up - getting her name out there. Meg is the second highest selling female rapper behind Minaj. I don't think she needs Glorilla there to help her sell out these arenas.

[@gabbywitt873]

@@DallasChick79na. and its no disrespect to Meg its business. when u see a big artist with another big artist , that means they are hoping that big artist sells the difference in tickets necessary to sell out that size venue. Doesnt mean Meg isnt big without her tho. But that is why, in any case, you would see that.

[@thereaper9241]

@@DallasChick79 Meg can never be in the same level as nicki when it comes to tickets. Shes hardly selling out venues...she literally had to discount the tickets to $24 for those shows to decently sell out and most of her crowd were seat fillers. Firstly, Nicki sells out venues on her own and her average ticket price range from $150-$200. Her shows sell out on presale date and the most expensive is $1500 and her shows are packed packed, she dont even need seat fillers. Secondly, her albums sell over 200K first week, while megan barely can sell more than 80K first week...her biggest first week sales were 100K. Her last single that went #1 was because of nicki. Nicki albums and singles goes plat within months of release, with or without radio push, music videos, or playlisting. To have that kind of dominance, you need a solid fanbase. Megan success is manufactured by Roc nation and solely relies on controversy...its all smoking mirrors. Same thing they did with meek mill..look at him today, he can barely secure more than 5k albums first week.

[@ningmeng5941]

8:36 lets be real meg could've sold it out herself and there is a big gap between their popularity

[@BeautifulEarthJa]

He def don't know about the females

[@jmbeats3308]

NF just finished his arena tour with Cordae and nobody else and it was successful. Regardless of what you think of someone like NF, it makes sense why he's thriving compared to artists like Lil Baby. He lets the music do the talking, and has created a world for 10+ years that goes beyond the music. Lil Baby and artists like him are low-key carried by connections, social media, collaborations, drama, etc. Don't get me wrong, they are all successful, but especially now, there's a difference between successful and very successful, and they're just not very successful.

[@3bayoungdude]

Nf is also white….. he’s a pop rapper. So his reach is going to larger

[@jmbeats3308]

​@@3bayoungdude That's true, he has advantages that other rappers don't have as a white rapper. Though he actually disadvantaged himself by isolating himself from all of the industry norms, he's an interesting case in rap music.

[@SeleniumOfficial]

I’m in Northern CA and I just saw a flyer for Bad Bunny playing at a smallish venue in San Francisco that I usually go to for raves/EDM. I was surprised he wouldn’t play somewhere bigger in a state where I thought he had a big fan base. Then I see this video…

[@DrewDaG]

Kendrick just sold a stadium

[@jamesescan6185]

I think juice wrld messed up my perception of how many people a rapper should have at their shows

[@hussainraheema]

I remember going to a Travis Scott concert back in 2017 it was like 2000 people and it was perfect the rage was extreme and people were passing out but goddamn it it was fun. And nobody died.

[@tyesmith7201]

This is why Nicki, Drake, Kendrick, and Cole will dominate this decade as well, because this newer acts come and go, and the other rappers that stay are just looked at as being mid.

[@groovysoltv4788]

lol didn’t future & metro cancel their tour?

[@smytheplays]

Ice Spice doing 1500 capacity venues isn’t shocking. She’s a new artist, she hasn’t built up a reputation as a live act, she hasn’t even really built a rep as a serious musician. She’s very popular, yes, but that’s a totally different thing than being able to convince people to come see you perform live. The other part is, sometimes acts who are starting out book venues that are too small, so they can give the appearance of a “sold out tour” and it gives them room to grow for their next tour.

[@SedraKurdi]

does anyone else see this happening too? so many rap concerts take forever to well through, up until the day of. then usually it sells out the morning of the show. tickets could have been on sale for 4 months but the last week is when people decide to buy.

[@SickHippie-hd3nd]

That’s why I keep up with smaller artists, they never fuck up the venues or ticket prices

[@NBAPlayersAssociation]

It’s just about having a cult like fan base. - I’ve watched Rod Wave sell out 2 arena tours.

[@yahshuayoungeenthenewwave6445]

You already know how us wave fans get down we dedicated

[@StealthyOleBoi]

Who actually wants to see a grown man dancing on stage rapping over a song that already has their voice playing in the background? Didn't Milli Vanilli get cancelled back in the 80'a for this? Now it's just the norm for musically talentless "artists" to grift money out of fans. Rappers were never meant for Arenas, they were meant for clubs and small venues for loyal fans who want to see their favorite artist up close, not from half a mile away needing binoculars and $500 for a nosebleed seat

[@Bigchamb55]

I do think you left out a few newer artists who sold out most if not all their arena shows. Rod Wave, Childish Gambino, Doja Cat, Russ. I also do think you underestimate Meg the stallion fan base for her tour it’s mostly because of her. Only reason I say this is because studying data of the last few years Glo couldn’t help Baby sell much & Meg almost instantly sold out majority of her shows after it went on sale. Also there’s a bigger gap with her & Glo it’s hard to explain but Meg has a Cardi/Nicki like fanbase now because of association with Cardi, drama etc. Glo was just written off & losing fans before this yr as Sexyy Red was being pushed to take her spot. But overall I agree most of the “hot” artists take but it’s been like this even in the peak 2000’s.

[@lukeydaye]

$B sell out arenas every time they have grey day but main stream rappers usually cant exceptions are like kendrick lamar and such

[@Boothgod1k]

I genuinely think Chris brown is the only artist who smoke everyone’s tours in terms of performance and visuals and even the set displays real artist died a decade ago nowadays people accept bare minimum shit even The Weeknd your looked amazing tho he’s not a performer he definitely cares about his fans more than most people

[@ayanagreen5349]

You have to have a catalog and stage presence to sell out shows. Most new hip hop artists pop and get buzz too quickly to develop as artists. Bottom line is, lots of the music is vapid and forgettable. So there’s nothing compelling enough to build a loyal fan base. People still have to like you to go see you. Unfortunately when artists pop up and sound act and look exactly the same, nobody cares. Many of them shouldn’t even be touring, they should be working on how to be good artists.

[@SweaterSwagg]

You in here preachin mama

[@mohamedfahad2364]

This channel has become amidst Drake vs Kendrick beef my fav hip hop related channel. Bravo

[@Jess1013]

I love Megan and Glorilla down, but I can guarantee you that if Meg went on tour on her own that her arena tour would’ve still been packed out with multiple sold out shows as it is now. I can’t say the same about Glo tho if she went out and tried to get an arena tour on her own. They don’t have the same star power or fan base size at all.

[@ji.2784]

I agree . Megan could’ve sold out arenas by herself. Nobody and I mean nobody bought a ticket to see Glorilla

[@tbj4855]

Hell no

[@Jess1013]

@@ji.2784 I actually missed Glo’s set because my date got rescheduled and I was running behind, and even tho I really love her I was okay with that. She was a bonus for me, not the draw, and I can confidently say that’s the case for the majority of the fans who got tickets. What I wasn’t going to be okay with was missing Meg!

[@penelopesanchez1679]

facts. She sold out Madison Square Garden in NYC. She shut a lot of people up!

[@Jess1013]

@@penelopesanchez1679anybody that’s surprised at her demand ain’t been paying attention. This the same girl that got a solo #1 debut on BBH100 earlier this year.

[@naseerwalker8292]

There’s a much bigger gap between Megan and Glorilla then you are giving credit. Meg has three Grammys and 2 #1 songs, one with BEYONCÉ. So her and Glorilla are not “ganging up” on tour it’s a simple opener and headliner dynamic

[@chrisxxet]

it also depends where you live and who you listen to i live on the border of the city and take the train to the city which is 20$ and then i listen to the underground so the concert tickets are never more than 50$

[@haechanfullsun65]

I think it is just the mainstream rappers that are struggling to sell tickets. Underground rappers like Osamason are not struggling to sell tickets.

[@Exoticbarbie.]

Taylor swift can sell out arenas and buy all of the rappers. Its interesting to think that she is richer than them all

[@wodedagawd9328]

Lucki charging 360 for premium tickets that dont even have a meet and greet and standing ,when i blow up if my fans pay over 200 im shaking they hands

[@mikeysrightleg1880]

Damn, 2 likes in 45 seconds? Pay fell off 😭

[@geeloco1600]

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[@KurtAnglesPerc]

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[@thecar4306]

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[@Ty-ru1zh]

Glorilla is no where as big as Meg. She is just the opener… without Meg, she would be doing similar venues to Ice Spice or JT.

[@ningmeng5941]

i agree, and more similar to ice spice yeah, glo already had a solo tour and she did places with capacities of ~700 - 2,000

[@djyua9157]

Playboi Carti and Rod Wave proved you wrong all last year the only rappers to individually sell out arenas with no supporting acts The only one that struggled to sell tickets was Lil Baby but that wasn't true it was an aa smear campaign

[@phillipbell4394]

I'll admit that I've never been to a concert before, but I'm also from Tucson so yeah. That being said though, good luck in Pheonix because it's hot here, but there....goddamn. I would not last lol.

[@user57856]

Ill be honest this is low key one of ur best takes ever artist like 21 savage, lil baby, kodak black, lil durk more of the street artist or artist who take there street or other careers outside of music more seriously cant sell out arenas artist like carti, trav, the weekend, even on the older side with drake, kendrick, ye or tyler the creator even j cole can sell out arenas cause theres less speciality on these street artist they can lose there hot factor ... like that i even say to my friends when theyll play like one of cartis signed artist like im not tryna downplay them i just say too them if these are who inspires u the most out of the artist out of opium like ken, lone , homixide gang there fire but u gotta realise u should always shoot for the highest spot that could be just glazing maistream artist but i listen to lone n shit.... just the sounds u hear from cartis beats and vocals are just soo much more raw then a ken carson, homixide gang or even destroy lonely song

[@SKULLKR3W]

i dont think anyone should have fans that go to war for them thats just stan behavior

[@Kiki-xx3fj]

Funny to call Eminem old and not relevant in modern culture but then praise Ye who’s only 3 years younger…at a time when Em’s got a #1 hit on Billboard…but not relevant in today’s culture, ok

[@tuelzalt]

Numbers and culture are 2 completely different things... em always had high numbers. Does he impact culture no. Drake also has high numbers and he doesn't impact culture. To give credit em did impact culture in the beginning... he had every wht kid dressing like him tryna become rappers... He doesn't impact it anymore in any way shape or form. Ye although ngl I haven't listen to him since like 2011 he does impact culture heavy even to this day. Back in the day he literally killed that era of gangsta rap and ushered in emo rap. Now he's impacting culture thur fashion and even music still. Ppl always tryna copy his album rollouts... he dress style etc

[@pussypop200]

Ain’t he got a number 2 with Houtras- I mean Houdini

[@Kiki-xx3fj]

@@tuelzalt Yeah, I understand that numbers and culture are 2 diff things. And don't say Drake doesn't impact the culture cuz it's not true. Kendrick was saying that Drake TAKES from the culture and doesn't give back like he should. Drake steals sounds and ideas from other artists, he hops on trends. Drake's raps don't always represent who he is, he's always trying to morph into something he's not, but to say he doesn't impact the culture is kinda crazy. But back to Em, to say that the man who is soley responsible for the term Stan isn't culture is ignorant. Also, Em has never pretended to be something else. He's never hopped on trends, he creates them. And to say he isn't the culture when he has literally been a main influence of rappers such as Kendrick??? He has an all Hiphop channel on Sirius XM that is for the culture, he has a record label that signs lyricists only that is for the culture, he made one of the best Hiphop movies of all time with 8 Mile that was for the culture. He's a legend in the culture STILL

[@tuelzalt]

@@Kiki-xx3fj I didn't say he wasn't a legend and Kdot said Em was one of his favorite rappers. I'm pretty sure he was talking about the old em as in that interview it was 2012. Like I said Em 100% affected culture back in the days. Now not so much. Most new rappers dmt listen to him or know even ome song of his. Kayne even tho he's older alot of new rappers still copy his style and know songs from him. The reason I said drake doesn't affect culture is because like you said he's never had a identity. Noone copies him... Noone raps like him... Noone tries to be drake... I would say Chief Keef affected rap culture more than Em and Drkae if you think about it. Since he's came out a whole new genre was popularized and literally everyone stole his lines, lingo and style. I cnt name 2 Keef songs but he's affected culture in the last 12years more than any rapper in the time span... literally got NY drill, UK drill, smoking on opps... even the word opps... bro aint talented in any way but definitely influential. .. maybe uzi and migos can be there too. Maybe Travis also. Again not talking about numbers just talking about culture... setting trends... fashion... Drake never really did that and em doesn't do that anymore. I cnt name one rapper in the last 10 years that copied Drake or Em. Culture is when u you represent something everyone wants to be. You wear Blue and everyone wants to wear blue... you do a song with a country artist and everyone wants to... you literally set trends. Those two is not that and em was in the beginning but not the last 10-15years

[@Kiki-xx3fj]

@@tuelzalt but by your very argument then Kendrick is barely the culture.What trends has he set? What fashion? What sound has been copied by the next generation of rappers? I mean I guess you could say baby Keem but that's nothing big since they're family and putting out music together

[@goodLIFE-ec2id]

The reason why most rappers can’t sell out arenas is because hip hop is on life support in terms of the next superstars replacing the old superstars the only gen z rappers that is currently doing well for rap is playboy Carti central cee Rod wave baby keem those are a few rappers that are doing well whlie majority of them are not mainstream enough whlie all of the other genre’s like r&b pop country etc they are all gaining new wave gen of artists Plus also we are in a recession meaning most artists aren’t gonna make money in touring like that cuz most are not arena artists unless your a big name like swift beyonce Chris Usher Drake Weeknd Billie etc

[@Imgdhjj]

Metro and Future tickets selling at 60 percent despite having two number one albums and a number one song for three weeks is crazy. I heard people say that Future isn’t a great performer and Metro is a producer so I don’t think people will pay a lot of money to go see him.

[@mikelbaningo6407]

I can't believe it 😔😩 hip hop is actually dying right now 😭 our artist can't sellout 🤧

[@gabbywitt873]

it was never that many rappers selling out arenas or touring arenas in general. so to say they can’t sell them “anymore” is sensationalism. fuck wit ya content tho.

[@iusedtobepay]

I disagree I think that there’s definitely been a down tick in ticket performance especially from the “top guys” in rap just from 10-15 years ago.

[@gabbywitt873]

@@iusedtobepayin a sense of their not being any new titans at that level, I agree with you. In that context the video makes more sense. Social media allowed a lot of artists to cut corners and look bigger than they are in real life. Including faked streams that increase album sale numbers. Doing a tour of 1000 capacity rooms for 30 dates will make an artist a little under or over $1M not including merch, if they’re independent. Festivals made it to where people look down on 1000 people like it’s something to scoff at, when early in artists like Drake and J Cole’s careers, when they were MUCH bigger (as in real life, early social media, minimal bot engagement,etc) than a lot of people we consider to be big now .. they were doing 1000- 1500 cap rooms.

[@prabhavmallela6538]

I was at 21 in Cleveland the amphitheaters he does seat 18k + people (same size as an arena)

[@ENT8801]

It's basic math. Stadiums are in major cities. Major cities have insane rent and cost of living. The average person makes 50,000 dollars or less a year. That's before taxes!!!! Nah, most people are dying in America's economy

[@joebags40]

6:55 i haven’t liked a full length drake solo album since views(i liked her loss)and i still would’ve went and saw him if i could’ve afforded it at the time

[@hockeycardcollecters]

Future wants $130 for bleeds😳

[@K-tw4wb]

I doubt Future determines the prices himself

[@TJCertain.]

Nicki really the only one selling. She selling us shows AND other countries. Sold out world tour

[@TJCertain.]

And doja cat. These 2 don’t just rap on stage like everybody else, but they actually have a performance they have choreography, outfits, set designs. They have the whole 9 yards. It’s something I admire and hope to do

[@jermainewashington6549]

Rod wave selling em

[@jacqulynsmither8770]

Kendrick last tour for his latest album sold over $100mill . He puts on a full artist experience at his shows. I do believe Rappers are going to have to step it up at their shows . People wants more for their money than a rapper holding a Mike and moving from one side of the stage to another. Which means very few rappers can cover the cost for such a show.

[@mezarod8749]

Ice " DOWN SYNDROME " Spice

[@bx_718stryker7]

a lot of them have boring/stale performances. That's my personal reason I haven't went to one in an long time

[@basicallymid]

I wish Meg brought Flo Milli instead of Glorilla. I really like Glorilla, but she's so green. Flo Milli is a solid performer - having her AND Meg in one night would've been amazing.

[@Anon-vr3uy]

Russ just did an arena tour. lol. I know yall don’t like him but he’s a rapper

[@arseeoliveira6934]

Personally, I think most of these promoters got soo greedy to a point where they got completely out of touch with the demand for the artists that they stamp exorbitant ticket prices on and the customer pockets itself, so they think they're willing to spend bands on artists with no aura lmao

[@menovedio]

21 has improved in performance but the last time i saw him before a week or two ago was 2018 so it’s probably just experience

[@veliciarogers7347]

I’ll let you know what happens at the Meg/Glo concert next week.

[@latenighthazard]

I disagree. Rap been lackluster for over 10 years and still sold out shows and albums. The truth is the 2017 crowd (the lil yachts and 6ix9ine era) has grown up and have moved on. And the younger kids nowadays are not impressed with the BS dropping. The fact that there are no new J Cole’s and Kendrick and no new Drakes… rap is dying bro.. and finally, let’s not act like the whole female rapping about their coochie era isn’t lowering the bar nowadays.. rap is becoming content. More of a lifestyle than an art

[@alexmundon9924]

You got the wrong people in the pic for that caption lol

[@nameblocked]

Zach Bryan (IDK who TF that is) just did 3 nights in a row at Crypto in LA. The hats and boots got my attention

[@hunterwinfrey3227]

It sound like there tour shows be lit and turnt compare to there festival shows. Because at there tour shows the crowd more hype, lit, turnt and nosiey, but at the festival shows the crowd also be looking dead, silent and quiet most the times.

[@lepetitmort1150]

i like this guy. 😊 glad i found his channel.

[@stylebyzela8830]

Tyga Yg and Saweetie tried to do a tour together. It disappeared!

[@OVO-Adolf]

Cuz nobody and I mean NOBODY cares bout the weak ass California scene

[@jyce7375]

I remember I went to a Lil Tjay concert back in 2019. $60 for a ticket and a meeting n greet. If I went to one of his concerts nowadays, I know I’m dropping $250 easily. 😂🙅🏾‍♂️

[@IamJMcGill]

You be preaching 🔥

[@BeenBenji]

Well what about Yeat or Ken their shows really sell

[@VonDecken97]

that boy Slub is really good

[@thekingslayer2418]

Why do i like his intro so much😅

[@1224jm]

Travis Scott can’t sell out an arena tour