Don't Fall for This F2P Trap in Wuthering Waves

Don't Fall for This F2P Trap in Wuthering Waves. Wuthering Waves is almost here and it's important that the F2P (or low-spending) players who want to focus on optimizing their account with little mistakes understand this one thing about premium resource management! Otherwise...
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#wutheringwaves

[@jakubbarczyk4310]

I came for WW and I got a man going through a divorce and legal custody battle for the kids from hoyo

[@shark9585]

always a pinch of legal papers required!

[@prettypuddin]

😂❤

[@yatinpaul8845]

and hoyo said 'You are not the father'

[@bitboss1385]

😂😂🤣🤣

[@harshits2022]

I think i understood why he left genshin from that "fish up OP weapons in the game", the fishing really got to him 🤣

[@Iyoverse]

What's wild is I actually wanted to do the fishing, but by that point I'd already quit giving Genshin +8Hrs a day of my time. 😭I actually wanted to get the Catch with friends and everything!

[@RavenShugo]

Fishing is not the problem, the time gating fishing is what I hate about it.

[@ffxfgxsfxxxg2419]

Exactly I live, laugh, loved fishing but time gating it made it hard for me to enjoy this because I didnt have time everyday and when I did I couldnt spend my time doing casual things for very long.

[@khulmach9662]

@@RavenShugo The fishing still sucks, Person 4 had better fishing mechanics

[@herbertcoxe3601]

I literally just pulled 5star weapons to not have to fish, best thing I’ve done… ever. Fishing would have taken everything I had in me, I can always get more money but not time.

[@DefinitelyNotAFerret]

I didn't even start caring about abyss in genshin until about a YEAR AND A HALF into the game. I might do the same for Wuthering, focus on enjoying my time, focus on enjoying the co op, focus on building my characters, and I'll get to the end game stuff when I feel like getting to it

[@livingthing2897]

Yess, that's always how I go about these games. Having fun is the most important thing

[@Otiia]

high five to that! Did the same and never regret :D

[@snowflak6173]

i mean its a single player game.... and abyss reward for some are just arent worth it imo, spending months build a team just to get 10 pull roughly....

[@rxve.]

i didnt even start caring about abyss before like 1 month ago or so and im playing since launch xD but yea will do the same just enjoying my playtime and when i feel like it start caring about endgame

[@jcp5302]

Same but ever since I got into doing abyss, now I think if I miss this reset imagine how many pulls I’ll miss.. It’s less of a problem for Genshin now since I have so many pulls saved up and don’t play as much but for a new game like Wuthering Waves I feel like I need every single Astrite I can get for new characters.

[@alastor8780]

Heart crushing to play Honkai Impact 3 and hear stuff like 'this character is only good if you pull her weapon too'.

[@Neavh]

as a day 1 player, I can confirm almost EVERY character's 4/4 gear is a must have or you are running them at like half value .

[@DeltaPhi]

Hope you're ready to 4/4 every character if you want to be competitive!

[@bluechicken8626]

Yeah pulling DPS in HI3rd without their signature weapon and stigmatas is pure copium.

[@ArchAngelKnights]

its literally not true tho. geez you people are some of the dumbest mofos ever. I played hi3 for 2 or 3 years without pulling for gear and using the free stuff. Like any other game....if you want to BE COMPETITIVE, you need to pull the gear and weapon cuz guess what....the other competitive people are doing that.

[@HyperDrive365]

cause its true, and 2800 per 10 pull aint cheap xD

[@OnFirewall]

"40 days to build a character" reminds me how in PGR it's much less efficient to get exp materials from the dedicated exp grinding stages. In that game it's much more efficient to spend your stamina on event stages and then buy exp mats from event shop. Who knows, maybe kuro would do something like this in WW.

[@lovableairheadmile6809]

Ngl I can see em do this

[@MrGoodra17]

As I always say, the best weapon banner is the one you don't have to pull for

[@ltk7309]

says every cheap loser, ever. It really ain't that deep to support the game by purchasing some bundles costing only a few dollars blud.

[@MrGoodra17]

@@ltk7309 🤡

[@david3648]

​@@ltk7309 ??????

[@Cajun_Seasoning]

@@ltk7309 said by someone that has no financial priorities or has enough money to spend frivolously on immaterial things casually which is not the majority of people

[@lev002]

I was watching this with a straight face, paying attention, then this part came.. 3:29 I COULDN'T. "Imma- Imma sell you a lightcone" broooo 😂😂😂

[@Iyoverse]

It slipped out I swear. haha Glad you loved it! :D

[@brendonprophette8890]

Light cone dealer

[@ousmaailayoub5727]

6:30 You never need dupes in PGR, cause you can upgrade characters for free, A ranks can be upped to SSS+ with time, and S ranks can be upped to SS with PPC skulls, some even to SSS with voucher cards, and most characters are op enough as SSs.

[@AverDav]

I mean for the most part sure but characters like Lumi is straight up not a good character unless they have dupes. And then we have Changyu who's not even a character at all even at SSS+ & Sig weapon

[@Iyoverse]

Is that not creating a dupe on the character? I could be confused here so just asking for clarification.

[@jamesdavid2893]

Think the point is you don't have to pull on the banner to get a dupe, you can upgrade it another way.

[@sockt0922]

@@Iyoverse All he is saying imo is that you dont need to pull for the character dupes so there is no RNG in the eidolons/sequences and you get what you want guaranteed

[@Vinmono]

@@Iyoverse hi3 and pgr operate by shards, if you get a character dupe you get shards, but you can also get shards from other means for certain characters, so getting a character dupe can give you enough shards to get their letter ranking up, or you can rank up your character if you get enough shards from other means. It's confusing but character dupes esentially turn Into the currency you use to upgrade the character so whatever way you get shards, you can use those to power the character up. I think even blue archive does this for how characters power up from "dupes"(shards)

[@CopyCatPhantom]

4:11 You can't get the characters signature lightcones from the character banner. They are always separated forcing you to pull on both if you wanted to get them both.

[@Chopsparillo]

I’m pretty sure he meant 4 stars like (For Acheron specifically) Good Night Sleep Well, can be obtained from the character banner if you’re lucky.

[@ejun251]

No disrespect, but there's a lot of talking, but it isn't very focused. I get wanting to get the right length of the video etc., but at the very least, I'd put in the effort to add time stamps in the video. I'm almost half way through the video and haven't heard a single tip about F2P traps yet. I'm not watching the rest now, but I wanted to be constructive

[@scherpebocht]

Yeah he keeps talking nonsense at a fast pace about random things except the video title

[@obsessedkokichi6112]

Wuthering wave’s artifact system is broken rn, once you get to level 15 in the data thing, you can get 5 star artifacts from the over-world with a 30%-80% chance, my friend has already 300% crit dmg on jiyan and I just need one more dps to complete the tower of adversity. Right now you can farm hundreds of 5 star echos a day so the costs of building a character are lower than genshin.

[@JKTonshi]

@@obsessedkokichi6112 It's definitely lower overall, but man it stings all the same when the rolls aren't what you wanted, as usual Really glad they made the main slot echoes really convenient to farm though, extremely helps in getting the damage part of the build partially covered up before moving onto the other pieces while saving up growth mats

[@dr.strange1300]

As someone whos gonna main Rover and save everything until 1.1 for Jinhsi and Changli... im definitely gettin verina 😂😂 Great video man cant wait to see all the coverage!

[@rookiereviewer]

I want her calcharo and jihyan I think that’s how you spell their names lol but if I don’t get them my first 5 star I’m legit not wishing until the. As well lol

[@TsukatsukiRio]

same

[@davidlopes8402]

Same, 1.1 banners are looking too good compared to 1.0

[@dr.strange1300]

@@Xiumi0 Same man same hopefully we get blessed up

[@bluiixmoon6966]

Same LMAO

[@Angelieth_]

About the time to max out a character, it's actually pretty average, the cost to go from 80 to 90 is about 35% of the total cost, with that amount you can bring any other character from 1 to 60. This is mostly common with both Genshin and Honkai if you do some calculation on the required materials, it's abouy the same or worse, it took months to get to level 90 with all maxed out skills on those games aswell, so I wouldn't stress too much about it. The further you get into the game the more resource planning you will be able to do, based on upcoming character

[@ArcRaizer]

So basically similar to arknights where early game you are extremely encouraged to invest heavy in lower tier characters and maybe 1 SSR until you reach the point where farming efficiency is a lot better/more consistent because your rosters strong enough? thats my understanding from the video

[@graylord6667]

What's great in AK is that you can use friends 6* unit basically anywhere. And that is more then enough to carry you right through the early + middle game and all the way up to the start of endgame without any sweat except specific stages. )

[@lovableairheadmile6809]

Not a good comparison cause ak has a very weak 5 star roaster compared to 4 star and 6 stars are op but yeah kinda works the same as what you said.

[@ArcRaizer]

@@lovableairheadmile6809 I'd argue that 5 stars are still objectively better than most 4 stars there are just specific 4 stars that are actually better than 5 stars. Click, Gummy, Cuora, Shaw, and Jaye are more bang for your buck 4 stars, Gravel and Perfumer have specific circumstances in which theyre good that occur frequently enough you could maybe argue them but you actually cant argue perfumer because Ptilopsis exists so thats only 6 4 stars out of 56. With that many 4 stars but only that many truly good ones I think the 5 star roster still wins overall. Sure theres the whole flagbearer meta where people use Myrtle but I dont think shes better I just think people care less about what they get out of flagbearer vanguards, if i was running more snipers or running into invis units and this was before Ines id 100% pick Elysion over her. Ethan I can see an argument being made for as well but I mostly see him for very specific cases (like those units that spawn units on death that need a specific hit count to be killed) Edit: As a side note even all of that aside you are still encouraged to build lower tier characters early game and only invest in a limited amount of SSRs due to a number of other reasons so the gap or lack thereof between 4 and 5 stars is actually irrelevant, theyre both cheaper than 6 stars. the material requirements for 6 stars can be just so much harsher and 4 stars dont even need to upgrade the chip packs you farm to elite 2, which was my point, both the cost of reaching max level for lower rarity operators and the material costs for 'ascending' and 'skill leveling' is lower so early on when you are lacking in everything its better to do lower rarities and limit your SSRs to one person who can carry you

[@lovableairheadmile6809]

@@ArcRaizer I would disagree with the objectively better due to their cost and majority of them are mediocre, with only a handful of decent ones. Also cutter is an amazing 4 star. 5 stars cost twice as much and also needs red certs however they aren't as easy to build and reliable as 4 stars. Remember u need like 270 red certs to e2 a 5 star and 360 red certs for a 6 star their like on a weird middle road that the only thing "better" is their raw stats. But 4 stars are mostly utility's the only 5 stars that are legitimately good imo are flagbearer Elysium and specialist.

[@lovableairheadmile6809]

@@ArcRaizer also on the ptilopsis argument there are situations where operators that can't be healed find more value from perfumer than ptilopsis like example I use her mainly with penance so I have some self healing even though it's a small amount

[@Hheartless101]

Great info! I'm excited for WuWa and I'm probably gonna not sleep Tuesday night xD

[@Iyoverse]

Better sleep during the day then! lol

[@demi5877]

Lol, imma pull an all-nighter

[@davidlomeli2711]

I've been seeing that it's releasing on the 22nd 7 pacific time that's on Wednesday? Why are you saying Tuesday night it releases? Different time zones?

[@stigmoz_]

@@davidlomeli2711 it's Wednesday, for some people it's Thursday, it's not on Tuesday anywhere in the world, so don't worry, you got the right time, May 22nd 7pm PST Wednesday

[@DrkPhenix-gm9dq]

For the first day, I think I will just do the beginner banner without rerolling as some people say. Then decide who to choose from 5star selection after I got the beginner banner 5 star. I won't be using limited banner pulls as I don't have clear goal for now

[@AsterWi]

me too

[@rootedpen2]

ong rerolling on SR gave me such stress and mental fatigue. i aint doing all that ish again.

[@dom4257]

im looking forward to playing jianxin. the devs are supposed to improve her kit and animations so im really excited for that :D

[@newe1555]

In hsr and genshin i didn't take time to enjoy the game. Joined both of them a year or so in and in a rush to build the new character i just pulled. I'm definitely going to take my time with ww

[@Novelite]

what you talked about hsr, was pretty much all wrong lol rn its just hoyoverse forcing a new meta with new powercreeps for whole 2.x version. But the thing is you can still clear every content with every units you got in 1.x version. There are no people regretting going for more pulls instead of the lightcones

[@marcuskane1040]

Facts mate. Lightcones are completely optional and you can clear everything without them, unless your relic and pulls luck is complete dog 💩

[@Iyoverse]

Every comment section for any given creator's videos about Acheron (during her release/rise) are filled with players complaining about not having XYZ gacha LC for Acheron. Nowhere did I make a point to say you cannot do something in HSR, but we're not going to just erase history because you might not have seen it. In fact, you can still find videos about Acheron "needing her sig", other creators (like myself) proving that wrong, and then players still complaining about not having any of those options.

[@LadyWgun]

@@Iyoverse Thing about Acheron is that as by heself she is strong character and her alternative LC didnt come out yet as her being first crit focused NIHILITY character. With her sig LC she becomes OP and she is THE BEST DPS character in game we have right now. She is WAY above any other dps its insane. So if you're casual f2p player who isnt going for 1 cycle in hsr abyss you dont need her sig LC and can chill with 1 copy of her. Artifacts really decide how strong your character is and pretty sure it goes for all games and even whales arent guaranteed to get them

[@Sunhwk]

Honestly? I was thinking the same. The only char I ever pulled the LC for was for Acheron and that's just bc I wanted to invest horizontally on her. Before that I was using GNSW, and she did not do that much lower than her signature, her signature just providing faster stacks and a bit more of dmg. All my other dps do not have their LC and I was clearing moc fine - even before Acheron.

[@Toastyz27]

​@@Iyoverse Iyo not even Acheron was changing this man The pulls for most are just gonna be better value I really don't think people were that desperate they were buying welt's lightcone from the star glitter shop in mass People bitching about acheron's LC is very different to what the commenter was talking about He's just saying there's almost zero reason to regret turning the glitter into pulls Like honestly the only worthwhile one there is Bronya's and to a lesser extent Gepard If you spent your glitter on these lightcones it wasn't saving you from lightcone problems Not tryna hate just tryna get blud's point across

[@JeidelacruzUK]

I got ToF PTSD with Wuwa for some reason, just hope it runs fine and devs dont get greedy. Most these gacha games so generous at the start then slowly get stingy as they gain popularity

[@avionblack7007]

Bruh loved this! Subscribed!

[@Inspos]

This will be my first ever gacha game( I think that’s what it’s called) because this game intrigues me! So I was trying my best to understand a lot of terminology for this game 🤔 but this video gave me some insight on what to look out for/forward too on release so thank you for this video!🙏

[@peterpedersen3988]

Well done! Good video, and very entertaining!

[@josephs.7960]

11:00 You have something misunderstood. You can't go for anyone in the beginner 40 pull banner. It is completely RNG who you get. It is only the next banner (80 pity) where you get to pick. Think of it as 3 separate banners. 1) Beginner: Only available for 50 pulls with discount to 40 pulls. You are guaranteed to get at least one 5 star. If you get a 5 star early your pity resets (i.e. the 50th pull is not always a 5 star). 2) Standard Banner: Regular standard character banner with 80 pity but the first time around you get to pick what 5* character you want. 3) Limited Banner: Limited banner with 80 pity and one rate up 5 star.

[@ExpressoPie]

Very informative. Who are you aiming for for your selector banner and who are you hoping to get from the random reduced banner?❤

[@Iyoverse]

Kakarot or Encore, and I won't restart the game! LOL

[@ExpressoPie]

@@Iyoverse yeah same 😭 I’m aiming for encore 100% as well, and will let the random banner decide my future ig, like if I got calcharo im definitely aiming for yinlin for the synergy and wanna save hard for Jinhsi as well

[@Eis_]

If there's anything I learned from PGR, IF you're good enough, you might be able to cheese the combat with only 1 character in the team on par with the enemies; the Intro-Outro system is just that good sometimes. At that point, it basically becomes Dark Souls but with free buffs. Although, I did notice, (unlike PGR where we can precisely control when that Intro skill hits using a QTE) some characters build that Outro meter too slowly especially when dealing low damage.

[@Prisma144]

I will go for Yinlin weapon because good when she is off-field dps.

[@EpicTetsu]

Some good info and valid points. Great vid 👍

[@Greknori00]

Hey guys, dont listen to Iyo. Very probably you will be capable of doing 99% of the stuff without a weapon, like is on PGR, SR, and GI. Focus on getting your favorite characters. MAYYYYBE, MAAYYYYBEEEE ,we will have some problems in a last abyss floor WW like, but that is irrelevant. Dont spend 70 pulls to get 50 currency more every 2 weeks. Thats insane.

[@onewingedstrife]

This video was very insightful, helped reinforce my pulling strategy in this game. Going for Kakarot as my main and will save for Yinlin.

[@Kuddochan]

If skipping weapon banners end up meaning you can't do the last floor or two of the endgame tower then idk about you but that sounds fine with me? Not like that kind of content is ever particularly interesting anyway. Same with LCs in HSR, just a boring way to spend jades.

[@LadyMouzon]

Yooo, Great video Iyo! Love hearing from someone who's played PGR. Not enough creators are talking from that experience.

[@albedo-sama9778]

Kinda sucks how underrated pgr is

[@CoercitioYT]

Definitely bookmarking that sheet. I’m praying I get the Jenova Clone from the novice convene but rng boutta take a crap and make me clean it xd

[@BON3MEAL]

thanks for this video!!! it was really helpful :)

[@SolessSolXS]

ANOTHER BANGER YESSIRRR!!! 30K on the way baby

[@Iyoverse]

You already know!

[@chaldea_]

Good video, I just wanted to say that I dislike how you speak in absolutes like “everybody regrets X” (not getting light cones, in this case). Or assuming that all of us call the Harmony supports Powerpuff Girls. I get that you might feel that way surrounded by your community, but some of us that come from other CC (like Smack, Brax or Pokke) feel like “what is he talking about???” Just a constructive take. I like to watch you from to time to time ❤

[@Iyoverse]

I'll attempt to start saying "others" and less absolutes when speaking on groups of people from now on. I forget we have shared communities, but not everyone is in the community. That makes sense.

[@MariaRodriguez-hb4ix]

My HST luck for characters is really bad. But the opposite for cones. I had gotten 4 different promotional 5* LCs in about 20 wishes. The Acheron one was only 3 wishes from the previous one. Plus, Fu Xuan double Legendary LC.

[@ffxfgxsfxxxg2419]

Im planning to play Jiyan as I really want him due to his design as I want to get to a certain dps and then farm 3 different echo sets. Once I have properly farmed the healing one, moonlit one, and general attack one I can go for stronger characters

[@sagebrecht4765]

I will say for pgr, it's an easier pill to swallow in pulling for 6* weapons because the pity is 30 and not 80. Even then f2p can still craft the 5* weapon for no pulls which are viable options unless hunting the leaderboards.

[@weoraya]

is there any concept of like trailblaze level or adventure rank with higher ascensions, rewards, and other content locked behind? you brought up it takes 60 days to build one character but i feel like if there were one of those it would not only take longer but be smoother... no?

[@bencegergohocz5988]

It's Union level if i'm not mistaken

[@cynthiahembree3957]

@@bencegergohocz5988 Correct

[@ruen_me1361]

I am curious if they will do the rock/paper/scissors thing like PGR with the elements where a DPS of each was needed or at least made ur life easier.

[@Shadowstriker_24]

Bro, a big thanks for that video. Just wished I would have seen it earlier (Before using 5-Star giveaway for Lingyang while pulling for Jiyan and Calcharo plus might trying to get the 5- star weapon PLUS already having Verina) 😑

[@SerraAbyssAlisaris]

Will come back and watch this maybe when WuWa Drops

[@themezzy2599]

Iyo!!!!!!!! Bout time foolio you had me watching the tone react videos for a few days lol

[@Iyoverse]

😅 I just dropped this banger today!

[@ray6149]

If its like pgr where pulling for a weapon is basically required it'd be very hard to pull

[@mismagia]

yeah my strat was to get S1Calchero from summoning and S0 Verina from selector gonna use the lvl45 weapon box to get calchero his sword and then all my premium resources go into yinlin and her weapon hopefully i can get everything there in time with the advanced schedule but i think having that 1 calchero team and maxing out its potential as much as possible will be for the best so i can look towards pulling units i will actually enjoy in the future without worrying abt meta obviously s1 might not seem like alot but as i get the pity from summoning ill be able to get him to S3R5 without having to deal with any rng factors and even have a chance of getting extra copies if i lose pity on a future premium character

[@guardiansoulblade2673]

I play Punishing Gray Raven, I've been playing for over a year, and I'm FAR more excited for the upcoming A-ranks than the S-ranks over there, S-ranks are great and all, but the A-ranks for gen 2 are super fun, so people shouldn't sleep on KuroGames 4* units. Noctis, Bridget, and Black Rock Shooter are all characters that I'm chasing in PGR, and they're all A-rank.

[@lovableairheadmile6809]

Yep same mentality here I'm personally more investment in a ranks and 4 stars in these games

[@cynthiahembree3957]

The only 5 star I'm investing in early game is gonna be Rover

[@lucastle]

I love how everyone is like Calcharo or Verina and meanwhile me ready for the lion boy He looks so fun and for what I've heard he can be played with Baizhi and Rover so he goin right into my pocket

[@MrHinatainn]

In WuWa, I can already smell IP collabs skins or characters.

[@Satoyamada9]

Ey yow. I love your disappointed reaction 🤣🤣🤣

[@zinc2982]

I plan on getting Calcharo for my dps, but am still flip-flopping between pulling Jiyan's weapon for him or not afterwards (If im remembering correctly that he can use it)- I dont plan on getting Jiyan or Yinlin and the fact that the weapon banner is guaranteed is enticing, but idk. I'll see when the game finally drops

[@inihao]

As a pgr player i hope the pulling system is similar to ww I love that they have a 100% rate for 60 pull Same goes for the target weapon system for 30 pulls with 80% rate

[@animeclips6598]

Only standard LC worth getting us Bronya's and even then you don't need to get it because she good good f2p options.For the others you're better off losing pity and getting them and use the saved currency for character banner

[@VoiidxT]

ayo is there a way i can watch your elden ring playthrough ? i looked it up on twitch, i found a 8 years ago overwatch thing, but couldn't find the elden lol great vid btw, they're giving us a lot at this beggining, there MUST be something

[@Iyoverse]

I never finished the videos for it, but I always tell myself I’d bring it back. 😭I miss editing them so much.

[@yukiandkanamekuran]

its okay i played TOF.... also i have gotten my gorls weapon on the weapon banner. if its better than genshin, its possible. and then like..... im not sure what character i want. have you made a video about the good and bad characters yet?

[@Iyoverse]

It's on the way tomorrow or on launch day!

[@xii_xevius]

Already released on my country today,It amazing

[@shubalander]

once i see a spread sheet my mind goes to shit

[@montemanjay]

HI3 is very much a "need to get their specific gear" gacha as well. As soon as I heard no 50/50 on the weapon banner I knew it was going to be a must pull. Good thing Yinlin is on the 2nd half. The power spikes on dupes reminds me of HI3 as well. 100% + on a c6 is crazy.

[@Yumiaia-26]

No it's not TwT I hab played it fo years, firs half I went weapon firs neba got weapons really underperformed, then when the lock out thingy forcing the new account linking happened I had to start over an I started wi characters an currently I habn farmed fo a single weapon an hab many characters tha are gwea li herrscher of rebirth an I don need anything else to do gwea

[@KaiLo42]

I just wanna see what the games story and characters are like and probably won't spend cause I'm not touching the endgame

[@pacificnebula4899]

I’m just going to save whatever bonuses we get from game launch and wait until the game develops more. Like, imagine buying Diluc from Genshin Impact when it was new Skill > Characters will help a lot

[@Jumppx6T9]

Hey like pgr is wuwa characters need there signature weapon to function ? Is 4 star weapon will be okay ? I am going to be f2p and people told me to never pull on weapon banner in genshin will you recommend me to pull on weapon banner in wuwa ? Please reply

[@kennibal666]

Genshin's weapon banner is only guaranteed after 2 failed attempts and the pity doesn't carry over to the next banner, so once you decide to pull, you need to commit all the way. I've wasted thousands pulling on the fking weapon banner in Genshin. HSR is better because pity carries over and you only need to lose 50/50 once. Wuwa gives you a guaranteed weapon at 80, so that changes the whole picture.

[@yakirya13]

according to the first calculations for the first limited character, the signature will give 118 percent, the standard 5* will give 100 and 4* will give 98, I think it will be about the same as in honkai, with straight hands you can cover everything with 4*, but for the comfort of the signature, they are a guarantee, so I would recommend that in the future (especially for DPS) you immediately invest in both the character and his signature

[@yakirya13]

and what’s more, weapons can be transferred even inside the tower, so you can, in theory, place characters who use the same weapons, for example Kalcharo uses weapons the same as Jiyan and it also gives Kalcharo a bonus of more than 12 percent damage, so by knocking out Jiyan’s sign you can wear it in your head at once on him and on calciaro and it will give you a total of more than 30 percent damage for two parties

[@bencegergohocz5988]

Fun? Probably not. Good? Deffinitly. The gap between 4 and 5star weapons in this game is actually stupidlyarge compared to hoyo games and it kinda went under the radar since everyone was celebrating how relativy cheep they are. The gap bezween the 47 base attack 5stars (all 5star weapins except rectifiers) and the weeker half of the 4stars at 27 attack is 74%. Even if we look at thr top end of the 4stars, it's still at 33 attack and a 42.5% gap.

[@yakirya13]

@@bencegergohocz5988 but for example in honkai its turnbased so stats very needed . in genshin you can loose 2 times . so its 240 pulls for garant sign, also teams 4 characters . So it turns out that the signals give a lot, but they are easy to get, just like the character guarantor, the difference is 20 pulls, which you can leave for the weapon. Now it all depends only on how many spins they will give in the next patches for f2p, if it’s enough to pull out a character + signature per patch - everyone will be happy, but if they give 60 spins per patch like in Genshin - then it’s sad and many will quickly will be abandoned (although it’s smarter to give Kuro a lot of freebies so that people themselves want to play and buy subscriptions and bp)

[@kaorimiyazono5636]

I literally got Verina in the beginner pull, she comes in handy with heals but I rely on Rover for most of my dps.

[@Chenchann]

Am probably gonna be an f2p on the game and I already have my plans Get jiyan and his signature weapon. Then save until we get a character that is either an op support or sustain Also nice video :D

[@kojo2773]

If you're f2p, you have ro win the 50/50 on jiyan to have enough pulls to also get his sig weapon.

[@vmiget01]

ok so i know theres a 5050, question if i lose 5050, can i "save" that guarantee for the next limited banner (like genshin)? or is the guarantee only for the limited banner im currently on(like ToF)?

[@raiza3363]

Definitely saving for weapon banner in this game. The easier they are to get the most you'll need them to make characters decent, HSR was a bit like that and i feel WW will a lot more.

[@marcosc9130]

For better or worse this is not this kind of game, skill takes priority over constellations and signatures by quite a margin, so unless you really really whale to the point you max the character, it won't make as much difference as simply learning the game. Even on beta people made the hardest content with ridiculously low invested chars, so a decent invested one should be able to comfortably clear everything with max "stars", but it takes skill instead of money only.

[@raiza3363]

@@marcosc9130 That's good to know, hoyo games are so bad on late game content for always having insane buffs to latest characters

[@Yumiaia-26]

​@@raiza3363awa, if your jus playing to hab fun there shouln be much problems wi being forced into new characters or being forced into the weapons

[@raiza3363]

@@Yumiaia-26 Probably true, I'm just not that skilled of a person, so I'll probably get all i can to help me a little on that. Nothing to stress about too much though, I'm not usually a big character collector, i always rather have my faves and their signatures.

[@jmbrady1]

I got to tower of adversity day one, doing the endgame variant of it is another thing entirely though

[@srujan1750]

Did Wuthering waves do a stream or smth where they gave away some rewards? Can we still get it?

[@forbiddensuper2369]

2 days left

[@Iyoverse]

I honestly thought it was tomorrow. lol

[@jasisreading]

@@Iyoverse game will be available to pre-download tomorrow!

[@forbiddensuper2369]

@@justsomeguywithoutabeard8306 lies

[@kaizenchaosprimordial8945]

I'm downloading it now

[@lev002]

Also question, do you know if the select banner after the beginner one have a time limit? (HOPE NOT. 😭)

[@Iyoverse]

To my understanding no, because you have to finish that before unlocking the normal standard banner.

[@lev002]

Oh??? That's an interesting system- thank you! ​@@Iyoverse

[@SirFuego._.]

35 mins ago? Didn’t realize how early I was, nevertheless thank you for the informative video!

[@EvilpowerWarrior]

I hope the banner characters pulls be more easy and fair xD if for Pgr you need 60 pulls them for this Game how many you would need?

[@user-yp1hq7pf4f]

off topic but does the web event echo summon save the mc you picked??

[@UnbreakingSOUL]

I got the gameplay and exp in genshin... I wasn't really expecting a specific something to happen

[@morbed4181]

Glad im get Encore as my novice banner for temporary DPS (but sadly its on last pull 40 or 50 i dont remember), then i choose verina for selector banner to support/heal (cause why not since i alr had temporary dps) and luckily get her on first 10 pull 😆. im saving up premium currency right now and kinda wait & see for yin lin or jihyan (or maybe future character).

[@calrndown]

I played Genshin for like 2 years and burnt out. A year later I'm really looking forward to WW rather than going back. Thank you for all the help my guy.

[@higaiwokeru]

By the time you got to the point I hit union level 40

[@Iyoverse]

Good job! You're the first one to hit the impossible so far so I'll be expecting tips & tricks from you. You've got the juice now.

[@undeniablySomeGuy]

idk what's up with you, but I've been very happy getting 0 limited 5* lightcones in Star Rail. I have full cleared each pf and MoC since like Kafka as a f2p. Being somewhat lucky and somewhat economical with pulls, I got Seele SW Fu Xuan (+Tingyun), Kafka BS Ruan Mei (+Bailu), Dr. Ratio Topaz Robin Aventurine. These teams haven't been unable to clear anything with only 4* + f2p/std 5* lightcones. I for sure think getting specific synergistic 5*s is way more important in Star Rail than it is in Genshin, but lightcones? I don't know about that. Granted that 5*s characters are so powerful, I am hesitant to pull lightcones as saving for the right limited 5*s has let my account hold on through increasing power creep levels so far.

[@undeniablySomeGuy]

oh yeah and obviously i build himeherta for pf, since they're free. i regret getting bronya from 300 pity because i don't use her

[@akinmoladuntosin8925]

No one said you can't clear content with zero 5 star LC🤦🏾‍♂️. At the end of the day it's a gacha game you can clear all the content with only 4 stars anyway. The 5 stras just make it easier

[@invaderkota2497]

You got those who gonna be pulling for 5* characters and their weapons on limited banners. Then you got me who is gonna pull for Jiyan's weapon to put on Yangyang. We are not the same.

[@Paolini_18]

''You needed Acheron's LC'' for what ? She's been clearing MoC12 and PF4 with f2p LC pretty easily so for what exactly do you *need* her LC ?

[@ogLenas]

Wait so does all this boil down to "don't go crazy pulling characters" and "start with a DPS unit" or did I miss something else?

[@roadogsc]

Horribly inconsice. I would say besides those two, the only other point is that weapon banners are gonna (probably) be more important than other gatcha games.

[@nonofirerose]

I'd say don't burn all your pulls all at once. Plus most gotcha do power creep after a while. And you're gonna get a 5* Character Selector anyway and a lot of the 4* weapons are really frigging good.

[@Faudiedauw]

YoYo Iyo loved the vid man! One question tho you call yourself the lightcone guy. I am kinda like the anti lightcone guy. genuinely would like to have a discussion with you about that to clear things up from both sides! I think healthy debate is good for gacha games or games in general. I always like your takes (even tho I disagree with some haha) It makes me think and upgrade my mind you know? If you ever want to talk about it let me know! Ofcourse I don't want to seem like a leech or something so if I need more subs to reach that request I get that! much love!

[@Iyoverse]

Definitely down to enlighten you about the graces of pulling for Light Cones. :D

[@kiwi_kissxs7054]

2:35 THAT “GENEROUS” COMMENT IS THE MOST DARING THING I THINK I’VE HEARD IN A LONG TIME 💀💀💀

[@KaedeSatorui]

wait can someone clarify, when hes saying near the end of the video. To use the standard banner to aim for a dps that u want. And then use the guaranteed 5 star selector to get vareena? is that what hes saying?

[@Iyoverse]

Yus.

[@akaj5242]

which 5 star should we pick up from the 5star guaranteed banner on release?

[@dankmeimes4274]

Verina is the only real choice

[@13iggs]

I'm about that weapon banner life

[@DeeloYT]

just randomly seeing my name pop up had me confused for a sec lmao

[@Iyoverse]

😅 I used some of your Navia footage!

[@rjdk24]

you know what other game has 100% weapon drops signature in a gatcha game. aether gazer. you can pull their weapon when ever you want, as long as you get pity build. i hope this becomes standered for more games and getting rid of 50/50.

[@AlanxMatt93]

Does the standard banner banner pity give you a 5* of your choice or something? The way he's talking about just picking up Verina around 11:23 almost sounds like you can guarantee her

[@Iyoverse]

Yeah, you get a random 5-star from your novice banner (40 pulls) and then you can choose which 5-star you shoot for on the beginner banner (80 pulls). So yup, guaranteed!

[@AlanxMatt93]

@@Iyoverse Oh shit I hadn't heard about that yet that's pretty nice. Thanks for the reply

[@graylord6667]

Thanks, although I really don't want Calcharo so I'm left with Verina and Jianxin from standard 5* who I'm interested in colecting. It's a pity for me that Yinlin is so good with Calch, but guess will need to wait for future event lightning main DPS to play with her ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@LordRixuel]

F2P trap? As a F2P, challenge accepted :P

[@zerooskil7161]

Bro wait, preload is Tuesday 6 am release is Wednesday 10 pm thats the 22nd, here in the US

[@MUGEN44]

i'm a bit lost in the first point, so what's the point? what does "WuWa makes every point clear to get any weapon that you want? mean????

[@abortedButGoated]

dude just waffled about random shxt

[@joshuam.6027]

So basically, aim for a DPS from whatever u get from the random 5-star novice banner (or from limited), and then get Verina on the guaranteed 5-star beginner banner and just focus on those until u maxx them? Funny cause that's my plan too lol I'm also aiming for Yinlin and Jinshi cause Im in love with those fine ass women, so fucking hot!

[@dyanamiz6252]

I hadn't seen the channel since Tower of fantasy videos

[@Ichi.Capeta]

43 to 60 days to fully level up a single character???

[@watchwood]

40-60 days is nuts. I can build a Star Rail character in 1-2 weeks, and I think I've gotten spoiled by that. (4*s and supports are lower, 5*s and mains are higher) But yes, I am absolutely a character puller and I'm not even sorry lol. Maybe WW will break the habit, but I played GI for long enough that I look at a weapon banner as a waste of resources even in HSR where they're relatively tame.

[@NightmareRex6]

im trying figure out whats up with all the echo slots when can only use one at a time?

[@KpopFeelsMyJams]

I'M LITERALLY going in blind. Just heard about it today.

[@currentlyvibing9916]

Ya know all I can think throughout this is….man sephiroth looks so fuckin cool

[@thelastgamurai]

The Disney wand? I do remember that