Why JKD is Wrong about Wing Chun

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[@leestephenfitzpatrick6373]

What everybody forgets, or seems not to talk about, is that he carried on learning Wing Chun when he arrived back in the US, his fathers friend from the red boat wing chun lineage, can't remember the sifu's name, carried on his teaching. So he was a lot more advanced than people seem to want to give him credit for.

[@jacobharris954]

Heard the same thing

[@AlbertoPerez-zu6wg]

Facts

[@briandunne2153]

Still doesn't mean he learned or knows All Wing Chun

[@webherring]

Where's the proof of this??

[@dkcarey1]

If that's the case, why was he begging Ip Man to teach him dummy when he went back to HK, even offering to buy him a house? Also why in one of his personal letters later in life before he died did he admitted that WC was an essential core to his JDK and lamented that he wished he had finished the system to have a more complete understanding of it? Not saying you're incorrect, just doesn't seem to match up if he indeed took on a new sifu

[@thewarriorsgarden6316]

The thing I like about Izzo is his honesty, brutality with his wing chun, and his forward pressure. As a JKD guy, I never liked the moving around stuff. Crash in violently, strike and trap the entire opponent. Keep it up Izzo I like watching your videos.

[@user-nu8in3ey8c]

To this day the best JKD, and honestly the best self defense program, that I have ever seen is the original Paul Vunak Rapid Assault Tactics. It uses the best elements Muay Thai and Wing Chun. JKD people may say "that is not proper JKD". the Rapid Assault Tactics system is not really designed to make you a good martial artist, it is designed to make you able to hold your own in a street fight against your average attacker. It is simple, and you focus on creating your entry, applying pressure using a chain punch(which also simultaneously occupies the centerline), and terminating the fight from trapping range.

[@AlbertoPerez-zu6wg]

Facts

[@wubear260]

Yes along the same likes as Lee Morrison's Urban Combatives system where funny enough he was taught by Paul Vunak too. Also I really like Bruce Lee his philosophy is great and can be applied in life but he is not infallible and has made mistakes. Plus I respect your experience Izzo.

[@RedSplinter36]

Absolutely! I'm a full instructor directly under both Sifu Paul Vunak and Guro Inosanto... their interpretation of the JKD philosophy is hands down the best to me. Insanto students represent JKD in the military (Paul Vunak) and MMA (Greg Nelson and Erik Paulson) realms for a reason.

[@germancrespo2724]

That's right..we have to look for things that work in reality..and full believe in focus training...now if you think that kid is the best....you screwed.... MMA is very efficient but also you have to incorporate surprising attack quick fast ...don't need years of study classical routine.i don't practice MMA..too old..but I seen that is almost good.. Paul has a very good sense of brutal effective combat...I like him...

[@lawrencecrayton9844]

Guro Sing is a student of Guru Vunak right??

[@stevebrindle1724]

I am a 70-year-old English martial artist who has trained in several styles since my mid-teens. Boxing, TKD Judo, and 15 years of Wing Chun although at my age I only do Yoga and Tai Chi to keep me healthy. I will add here that under Sifu Joseph Cheng I only did Su lim Tao and its applications plus thousands of basic punches with an upward twist at the end for 2 years before moving on to the second pattern! I always watch your podcasts and mostly agree so much with your words, I agree with your comments about Bruce Lee who I have always considered has been hero-worshiped too much (Through no fault of his own I must add!) I love your pure and aggressive attitude to Wing Chun Sir and I respect Wing Chun so much, your podcasts sir are full of wisdom! I must add here that in a fight if a capable wrestler manages to get hold of you it's probably game over!

[@2gpowell]

Great breakdown and commentary. I agree 100 percent with your everything you stated. I am one of those JKD guys that transitioned Wing Chun practitioners. Great video!

[@mikeposavic9646]

Being a good fighter is more psychological than anything. My teacher was not in good shape and he was old. He got into real fights up to a couple of years before he died. He was abused badly and had to fight every day. I'm glad I had him for a teacher. I learned from a fighter, and I'm very fortunate. The Chinese martial arts he taught me work very well.

[@DGillian6406]

*More Contact= More Control You are 100% correct, sir

[@KungfuKhronicles]

Nice got a chance to speak with Sifu Singh myself, and you're right he's the real deal. Been likin these video breakdowns lately. 👍🏾

[@nemesis9022]

Commenting for the algorithm. I have gotten back to doing SLT most evenings. I'm trying to do better about standing up straight and focusing on structure, because I've noticed I have a tendency to slouch a little when I get to the second section. One of these days I need to actually memorize chum kiu 😅

[@KurtisJoseph]

Great video Izzo. Keep keepin it real.

[@Sifu-intraining]

I agree with what your saying, this is where i think people see things that the video showed and things they see in mma matches aswell and confuse fighting with sport fighting. As you said the litlle deflections and then springing back is not something you would do you would be going into the man if you have the chance and trying to end the fight not for lack of a better term 'play around', but again this is just training so they might be working on something more specific.

[@crazyshev36]

Damn as someone new learning wing chun, ive just learned more about wing chun watching this than the two years ive listened to an instructor, how does this only have 7k ish views

[@stoveall83]

Keep up the good work!

[@everlastingwingchundunedin4776]

I had a little laugh when ya mentioned they should put boxing in the title because 3 days ago I posted a clip "Wing chun Chinese boxing bob" and to my surprise has received over 600 views...and man the boxing trolls cant understand why I'm not prancing back and forward...and can't see on the video that the equipment I'm using is solid wood on the inside hence using it more for general flow than power... Good video Mr Izzo.

[@WebDominatorSEO]

Singh is not only a hig level Wing Chun Blash Sash, and 30 years in JKD, he is also a Brazilian Jiujitsu Black Belt. I dont think that Izzo would stand a chance.

[@IzzoWingChun]

Nearly 30 years in Wing Chun and wrestling since I was 12. I like my chances. I also have mass and strength on him.

[@stevebrindle1724]

That would depend on who got in first, i believe if Sifu Singh did it would not stop Sifu Izzo but if Sifu Izzo got in first it would be game over

[@briandunne2153]

Wing Chun doesn't have a black sash it's either nothing or a red sash when you have learnt and competent enough to teach a Sifu. Traditionally open to challenges.

[@ttx3]

when similar martial experience is equal, agresivity and fighting IQ make the difference

[@ShinobiShaman]

​@@IzzoWingChun Take the Wing Chun out of JKD, leave the fencing, boxing, & kicks, & I'd put my money on the JKD guys against the Wing Chun guys, in a real fight on average. Especially if those JKD guys are full contact sparring.

[@ironmantis778]

You guys seen Bruce Lee's iron knuckles tho? I think iron body conditioning trumps all the wiggle waggle dancing fighters do these days. The style you advance with is really irrelevant if your doing iron body training.

[@mutant0177]

I think it is not really reasonable to start with JKD because it is based on an very talented individual who wanted people to react freely. The problem is that you only can transcent structure if you know them. Or in other words the newbe needs guidlines. On the otherhand starting Wing Chun (especially for self defence) is not wie because it takes a lot of time to get "useful" in a fight.

[@madjidchouarbi3921]

It's really true that difference in weight makes a a enourmous difference in power delivery, that's why you also learn weapons in any serious Kung Fu style.

[@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812]

For short, because Bruce was practically speaking still a white belt in modern/western terminology. He didn't "know" wing Chun. And he did NOT "keep what is useful", there's not a thing in wing chun that isn't useful, and there's tons of things he never learned/couldnt figure out in the way he was Taught. And I'm no "Bruce Lee hater", I'm very aware of his ability and understanding of martial arts in general as well as wing Chun specifically. For short, I saw people saying the never understood the argument between wing chun and jkd, and simply put it boils down to regardless of his martial arts abilities, bruce was not nearly qualified to speak as some sort of authority on wing Chun. And many people today ignorantly or dishonestly act like he was.

[@IgirimbabaziInnocent-xq5bp]

You don't know about Bruce Lee

[@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812]

@@IgirimbabaziInnocent-xq5bp frankly I know more about Bruce Lee than he knew about himself. And I certainly know more about wing Chun than Bruce ever did. I know precisely what he learned and what he did not. I know how he was taught, and what parts he did not understand and was attempting to figure out all his life , and thr many interpretations of his own he gave to things he was taught. So yeah I'd say I know plenty about Bruce Lee.

[@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812]

@@IgirimbabaziInnocent-xq5bp I know Bruce Lee wasn't even in master ip's top 3.

[@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812]

@@IgirimbabaziInnocent-xq5bp hell Bruce wasn't even a student of ip man, he was WSL student inside of ip man's school for around 3- 4 years.

[@IgirimbabaziInnocent-xq5bp]

@@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812 but he wose Great martial

[@bahmankam8405]

I have done Karate, JKD some wrestling for over past 50 years. I was introduced to wing Chun 1975 based on books. Recently about a year ago followed wing Chun on you tube. I saw the basics (older video) all say the same like Sifu Sam Kwook and others showing the bridge, attacking constantly and every move going forward with a strike full body and stance energy. All evident in Sifu Fong teachings. Long story short, wing Chun for me is the basics with essential principles and enhanced in JKD with exploding out of static movements. I saw this in other Sifus teaching. Well done ✌🏽

[@gporr7004]

To say Bruce Lee didn’t know the correct WingChun or wasn’t as good as people think is asinine. None of us met him in person of course. But the man was obviously great at what he did. He’s dead for 50 years and to talk shit about the guy who put it in the map is rediculous. These guys talk like they’re the best thing to happen to Wing Chun or martial arts. Any one close to Bruce Lee say repeatedly how great he was. We’ll never know but to say for sure he wasn’t is rediculous. So easy for people to knock someone who can’t defend themself. Wanna knock Segal perfect the guy is alive to defend himself. Brice Lee would most likely kick the shit out of most of these you tubers yet they are so critical of his skill.

[@AlbertoPerez-zu6wg]

Facts

[@colreef]

Great video Dominic.Some good insights.

[@winowarrior9392]

I am a nobody. I love how he breaks down the different styles based on the needed situation. I know, it's like one house vs another house, but I think all of this knowledge is priceless.

[@GranmastaChenChekka]

@IzzoWingChun I am a JKD instructor, practitioner, a novice of WC and most of what you said I agree with you. Maybe not the way you said it, but the argument in itself i can see your point. Those were definitely not WC blocks or parries, they were barely parries at all. I agree that they should be like or should be strikes. I agree that a trap is a failed attack, as well as cutting through the limbs I agree. What I do see a little different is in the approach that you have at times as if it is all the JKD community who does this when it is those individuals that you're critiquing that are doing it. I say that respectfully, Thomas Marx does the same thing and I think he lacks any actual WC knowledge while doing it. Not all instructors teach the same, so you won't always get the same results. In other words to say JKD or Wing Chun guys/people should not put the entire community of the two on blast or chopping block. I think there is aspects that both can learn from the other making the individual a beteer fighter/martial artist. I think that the only way one can truly give a detailed analysis on things like this is if they studied and experienced both sides in their entirety then bring forth actual evidence to support their argument. Bruce had knowledge and experience, but not in the entirety of WC. His critique was based on his own experience through actual events, but never did he flat out disrespect WC or its community. Please keep doing what you're doing however because it's good to learn more from another perspective and one thing about me besides my title is I have no fear of correction especially when my goal is to learn more.

[@AshleyRiotable]

Sorry guys, he's skills works better than yours and can work in MMA as well. Some principles of wing chun are outdated, and what this guy did is learn what is usefull and discord what does not work.

[@jacobharris954]

None of prinicples are outdated, it is very hard to outdate prinicples

[@briandunne2153]

Name the outdated principles of Wing Chun

[@DenshaOtoko2]

My first teacher said wait and listen. The second teacher said move into range and my third teacher said double sticky hands for two or three seconds then hit them with a Sun fist. Fourth teacher taught me that chi Sao is a transition and you should hit your target. My first friend showed me to chi Sao and phon Sao then hit with a palm strike. My second friend just showed me to unload with the Jik Chun Choi.

[@DenshaOtoko2]

My first Wing Chun teacher taught me that Yi ji Kim yeung ma is for training and should have the legs form a triangle and put your tailbone down and shoulders back and chin up. Chum Kil stance or the modified Wing Chun stance from either foot is taught in context to Jeet Kune Do Concepts from William Chung and Wong Shun Leung lineages.

[@ShennThomas93]

Yeah ..Good Vid IZZO .. Agree with you 100 percent!!..

[@cajetan]

Enjoy your channel IZZO. Id like to see your input/opinion on videos of dan insosanto’s explanation of differences between jkd and wing chun in some of the “newer” video footage of him on KZbin. Thank you and take care.

[@pizzulo8111]

I've never understood the whole Wing Chun vs JKD argument. Two completely different things. Sure, there's some things (not many) in JKD from Wing Chun, but let's be honest, these are very different arts. Depending on what lineage of JKD you learn, they are very different. There's the Seattle years where very little kicking was involved and was heavy on trapping. Then the L.A. JKD, which had high kicks and movie fighting aspects. Finally, there's what was pretty much Kickboxing with engaging and disengaging. Sport fighting. I would guess that the best street fighting version of JKD is the original, with no high kicks and heavy forward pressure with trapping. I think his L.A. years and on, were teaching actors (James Coburn, etc.) high kicks and cowboy punches mixed with straight punches that would look good on the big screen.

[@winowarrior9392]

I think the overall idea is the combination of both due to Lee's trajectory.

[@Mr.International82]

I like Bruce Lee but to be honest I do think Bruce’s speed is what carried him as a lot as a martial artist.

[@tcbtcb7553]

I have high respect to anybody that dedicates their life to martial arts. Everybody has their own path to walk in life.

[@DenshaOtoko2]

My main teachers were from Ip Man lineage, and Leung Sheung lineage. I was also taught by friends who new IP Chun lineage and two mentors who knew Ip Ching and Leung Ting Lineages.

[@mider9996]

Interesting insight, just smother the opponent so they can’t get off their tools like kicks, punching, etc. you're one of the few instructors on line who points the nuances of WC out.

[@ralphrobinson2373]

The guy in the shades is not using forward energy. If the gumso would've moved forward he would be in position to interrupt the second punch.🎉

[@gw1357]

Singh's teacher was Paul Vunak, if I'm not mistaken.

[@AlbertoPerez-zu6wg]

Yes he was

[@nonanon666]

Nothing makes me laugh quite like people who aren't trained in WC explaining what WC is. When I see someone throwing feints, retracting strikes, voluntarily releasing a limb they have contact with, and I hear the words "This is how Wing Chun does it" fall out of their mouth, all I can do is shake my head. You may as well be throwing triple-spin kicks while backflipping and saying, "This is how Western boxing does it". It's right there in the philosophy/credo of Classical WC; "Receive what comes, follow what goes, when a clear path is open; strike". My sifu taught me that if you're relentlessly applying constant forward pressure against whatever block or parry you've encountered, when an opening presents itself you don't have to think about exploding through it, any more than the sea has to think about exploiting a crack in a dam. I'm built the opposite of Izzo - I'm slim - but I was never taught to dance around, and was taught to drive forward relentlessly like a Terminator to end the threat, regardless of whether the threat outweighs me by 100kg and has a reach advantage. I don't know where the hell people get these misconceptions about WC, because even Bruce Lee clearly stated these principles in The Tao of Gung Fu.

[@samsshaolin5890]

I agree. In striking the optimal next move is determined more so by your previous move, than your opponent's previous move. This is because each strike or block changes your bodies alignment, and you have to throw your next strike or block from that alignment before you have a change to reset because striking happens in miliseconds. Additionally, one block can absorb a thousand strikes, and one combo can split a thousand guards. Grappling is the opposite where the optimal next move is determined more so by your opponent's previous move, than your previous move. This is why striking has "styles proper" whereas grappling does not, because you have to use moves that fit together, and there is really no need to draw from the millions of striking techniques and dogmas that might clash with each other, when you can cover all your bases with a dozen techniques and dogmas that you know mesh together. JKD practitioners should ask themselves these questions in my opinion. Could I cover all the bases of striking with fewer moves? Do the moves I have in my arsenal generate structures that will clash with another move I have in my arsenal? Do the dogmas I maintain while fighting clash with other dogmas maintain while fighting? Do the dogmas I maintain while fighting clash with the moves in my arsenal? Does selecting the optimal move or dogma in a given situation eat into precious bandwidth that could be used for other means during a fight? Is there even an optimal move or dogma in a given situation when it seems that success begins and ends at just how good you are at one of the thousand of possible methods? Does believing that you do not have all the necessary tools available to win an altercation, and that your success will depend on you ability to conjure them up in real time, lower your confidence?

[@jarrodpelrine7229]

For me I'm grateful for my wing chun training to teach my body what it should and should not be doing and I'm also grateful for my jeet Kune Do training for when things get out of hand and I need to unleash some faster jaw smashing woop ass on someone trying to get the better of me in a sparing fighting type situation but that's just me

[@johnanthony6765]

I absolutely love your analogy!!! Most people don't understand what Wing Chun is. Wing Chun is an aggressive art form. Energy forward! My instructor never retreats EVER!!! It is amazing. I've actually introduced it into Kali. I'm breaking rules. I was criticised. But I used true Wing Chun in Kali and I was dominating in sparting

[@user-in3ss5kd3z]

Im thinking where can I get a good quality mook jong.

[@DGillian6406]

Great breakdown and explanation!

[@jcmultimedia4072]

❤❤❤❤ love wing Chun,

[@zeedthemohican8296]

Some people confuse Philippine martial arts with WC, especially in JKD. But in fact, the two of them have completely different directions. In Philippine martial arts, they assume knives and strategize. So it makes sense for them to control their opponents' arms and hands. But WC? Why hit an unarmed opponent's arm and hand when fighting? Hit an owner who controls his arm. Unless we are out of form and applying concepts (especially forward pressure, shortest path attack, non-breakable bone structure), there is no need to force the two together.

[@JeffForsyth]

Jkd itself is a concept. Longest weapon to softest target

[@corstemor]

Love the 'I Know Kungfu' shirt but link in the description doesn't go to it 😕

[@tcbtcb7553]

Your best video, thank you.

[@LMFAS9528]

at 32:50 he crosses his wrists (thats bad) ,turn n cut him off ,press and he's in a trap

[@ceemee1430]

I’m going right in MF. That’s how I was taught to fight and use WC Whatever to allot of the other stuff

[@twooharmony2000]

Consistant distinguishing--martial artist, fighter. Good stuff.-Ernie Moore Jr.

[@tcbtcb7553]

I agree. I have seen the criticism of WC is by people that really do not know it. There is a big difference between really fighting, sparing, and sport competition. WC is designed for street survival. If I encounter a fighter that dances like Ali, I will simply run away, or grab a weapon to beat his ass. When you disengage in a fight this allows your opponent to pull out a weapon. WC is about street survival, not sparing, not competition.

[@antesmolcic4354]

I never saw sunglasses in a training.

[@Fahim_Lalani]

❤excellent video

[@dkcarey1]

I remember when I first started training WC years ago we had a JDK guy come to our school. I forget if we were doing chi sao, drilling, or what,.. but he'd do this weird flick of the wrist thing, and confused we all asked what he was doing. Said it was huen sao. I'm like "uh huh...that's great, but you didn't actually clear my arm, my fist is still pointed into your core". His elbows were wide out, and all kinds of stuff was off. We were all very nice to him but he never came back. You could tell it was because he became flustered at the details, and wanted to be free like water :) but certain details are there for a reason, not just for dogma. He came in wanting to show boat how great he was against WC guys, but none of his stuff worked, it was all feint type stuff. Before I get all the hate comments, I can't speak for all JKD guys, just about one particular guy who came in.

[@nyclee9133]

people say donnie yen style is not real but he does hold the opponent and keep striking he did more than just chain punching

[@DenshaOtoko2]

Foot work is taught after Siu Nim Tao.

[@christopherkeech2795]

At 17:16 they show commitment to a side stance, the reason he lacks ,is structure in the chun when the tkd goes on about pary it should be like a rock hitting a pond not to disturb his core ,to disrupt his next movement , helps with dead energy n conditioning

[@assoverteakettle]

No disrespect intended to all the JKD practitioners out there. They're all just doing their thing. But JKD was doomed after Bruce Lee died. First of all JKD is not modified wing chun. Bruce Lee's original genesis was Jun Fan Gung Fu which was a modified wing chun. Lee only had about 1.5 years of wing chun training as verified by Wong Shun Leung so Lee was forced to fill in the blanks with what he didn't know which became Jun Fan Gung Fu as he taught in Seattle and later Oakland. I don't claim to be an expert in JKD but my understanding is that it was always intended to be a philosophy or approach (what we now call tips and tricks) to being a practical fighter. To expose yourself to many things but pick and choose what works. This is verified in interviews with Dan inosanto. In fact, Lee originally had plans to open a chain of schools (again verified by Dan Inosanto in interviews available here on KZbin). But the first dilemma or paradox of JKD becomes how do you teach something which cannot be taught? Something that is not a style and has no set techniques -- wing chun or otherwise? You can't have a set curriculum and would have to teach everyone individually according to their specific strengths and weaknesses...obviously a school with a set curriculum would not work -- let alone a chain of such schools. The reason Lee used wing chun in his approach of JKD is because that is what he knew best and used as a basis. But JKD doesn't even have to have wing chun techniques per se at all because, again I reiterate, it's an approach or philosophy on becoming a good fighter by picking and choosing things like a buffet table -- to be a good all around generalist; rather than a limited specialist. So JKD, in philosophy, need not have wing chun present in it at all. But that is also the first "doom" of JKD. It was littered too much with esoteric philosophies (e.g. No limitation as the only limitation). Sidenote: The late great karate and pioneer of American kickboxing, Joe Lewis, has said that even the book, Tao of Jeet Kune Do, was not written by Bruce Lee. It was published posthumously after he died and credited to him based on notes and drawings that were found after his death. Many of the quotes that people attribute to Bruce Lee were borrowed from other sources like Confucious, Krishnamurti, and probably smatterings of varied sources from Jack Dempsey, Sun Tzu, and Miyamoto Musashi. Then came all the JKD schools which gained popularity in the 1980's and 1990's but that was the second doom and exploitation of JKD where people, even those who received personal instruction from Lee, opened up JKD schools with a curriculum usually comprised of modified wing chun, kickboxing and kali. But then how can you package something up with techniques and a set curriculum when the founder said was not a style and had no set techniques? People are still selling JKD today as some form of modified wing chun mixed with kickboxing and kali when that was never the purpose of JKD. The third doom of JKD is best explained by SMB's Matt Thornton (ex JKD instructor), and BJJ's Jon Frankl (who took both JKD and BJJ concurrently in Southern California) here on KZbin where they discuss the fragmentation of the JKD community and how it became the exact opposite of what Lee intended: a defined and fixed style with set techniques and curriculum which then stagnated and stopped evolving and stuck in the old ways. The exact "classical mess" that Lee admonished. But long story short: I don't thing it's fair to either wing chun, and (call it) JKD to do a direct comparison because to a wing chun man, a pak sao is executed differently than how Singh is using a "parry" in his art as long as it works for him because his approach to a fight is vastly different. Singh is not wrong in what he's doing simply because he's not doing wing chun so he is not confined to using wing chun philophies or strategies. It's about context.

[@marksmithwingchunswadlincote]

A very true word there, to me JKD died with Bruce Lee and it doesn't really exist now

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

You completely nailed this pal!! So in a sense, this video is right, and in another sense, it is pretty wrong. This a pretty awesome comment, go ahead!

[@DenshaOtoko2]

Don't trap outside of the center line go in or trap into them with the mother line. Stop chasing hands and hit the target. Have fish eyes and don't get distracted.

[@universalredguard]

Good stuff

[@DenshaOtoko2]

I would say that JKDS weakness is that it's too offensive focused and lacks defense. Wing Chun is designed backwards and so is Jeet Kune Do according to Adam Chan's Wing Chun channel. Siu Nim Tao and Chum Kiu has the best offense and Biu Jee and Mok Yan Joong has the best Defense for recovery in structure. The weapons are used for offense and defense. Bruce according to his own books new half of the Wing Chun system with all 3 empty hand forms with chi Sao and applications and sparring with the first two forms. JKD lacks defense from the dart finger and wooden dummy.

[@Brandon123456magine]

same concept in Okinawan Karate we don't block we strike.

[@TheMaverickunleashed]

My Sifu teaches wing chun and JKD. He is amazing. They are just different forms of expression in combat. Good video Dom… Bruce Lee learned all three forms of wing chun and 60 movements on the dummy. Wong Sheung said Bruce was an amazing wing chun man… I also think the lie that a woman created wing chun has ruined the fight principles of wing chun. Chi Sao is the practice of Kinesthetic perception and awareness…

[@hound8881]

Don't get in a position to do a technique, Do a technique from the position your in. W.C. we don't swat bees away. We pac sau to hurt.😊

[@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812]

Oh yeah, and Bruce wasn't even in master ip's top 3. (Technically wasn't even his student directly) Bruce was technically a student of wsl inside of ip man's school, who was one of his top students along with Sam kwok and chu shong tin.

[@kungfujoe2136]

no offens but looks like wing chung is the counter to a lot of other martial arts (also to jkd)

[@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812]

Well wing Chun was designed not only with "self defense" in mind but actual "martial" application as well, ie they were aware they might need to use it on soldiers/other trained fighters.

[@DGillian6406]

Wing Chun is not a “counter” to any thing. The simplest way to explain it is: FEEL SPACE, MOVE FORWARD *It’s fast, violent, efficient and effective!

[@DenshaOtoko2]

Wing Chun has throwing techniques introduced after Chum Kiu into Biu Jee and Mok Yan Joong.

[@webherring]

Thanks for sticking your neck out and taking on the big issues of our time! hahahaha I know it kinda sounds sarcastic, but I do mean it in a way. You're saying the quiet parts out loud. I wouldn't have the energy to deal with the argumentative aftermath.

[@JohnMartin-jx1wz]

it is wu tai chi that klee used

[@me82sjm]

Spent four years in wsl ving tsun, cross trained in twc a few times, now in jkd I know it's not a lot of time in wing chun but I'm only 23 however I've spent a lot of time reading, training and learning. Wing chun is my hyoerfixation Before jkd after wing chun I trained karate and aikijujitsu I believe wing chun when done with sparring and practiced with the right level of aggression along with an understanding of grappling is a beautiful effective system The jkd mechanics are a very good form of fighting but that is post Bruce Lee with the increased mix of fillipino martial arts which perfectly blend boxing with trapping I think jkd alone as Bruce Lee wrote focuses too much on trapping to block not to control Wing chun alone isn't focused on striking but because of this western modern view of striking and grappling arts being seperate it gets put to boxing and muay Thai and that's what Bruce did with it In jkd I have imeadietly advanced my skills in wing chun, boxing and karate because we learn so much about bridging and control I think the jkd community is what the wing chun community should be, the fighters who are ready to adapt and learn Its not something jkd invented its in the wing chun maxims But the wc community doesn't embrace it

[@bahmankam8405]

This I reckon is needing deeper insight into Wing Chun, learning real dynamism in it. Maybe other styles are more show off. I can't judge.

[@sifpaulfernandezthewingchundao]

I dont find him so bad, I don't necessarily agree with all this jkd sifu says, but he is rather talented which is good for jkd. I think the overall problem with jkd and comparing it with my own research cross training over many years is the main difference wing Chun displays compared to let's say jkd. Since I was 7 the TST system and my sifu Jim fung would ram down our heads nim lik and thought force projection in all the exercises we do... Highly enhancing our concentration and power body mechanics, It's not something you do as a sequenced format like for example in fighting sports... Chi Sao would develop that on a higher level bringing all components of the body into a ready state of action - reaction almost in a quasi meditative state.. I'm not saying it can't be achieved with jkd... But ive never seen any focus on this which is certainly a speciality in Wing Chun... If anything I've tried to bring this way of concentrating and generating energy into other systems. That's one thing that makes wc unique

[@tcbtcb7553]

Sifu Singh, is sparing, it is not street fighting here.

[@wailofoshan]

Add Spanish subtitles.

[@chozen0018]

Iv been following u ten years lol that was one of the first videos i saw from you... then you popped up in like shos this guy u had gained like 20lbs of muscle lol

[@johnanthony6765]

I love Bruce Lee movies. However my Wing Chun instructor who has been studying Wing Chun for over 40 years. Bruce Lee only had a small time line in Wing Chun. 4 years. I'm no expert in Wing Chun, I train mostly train in Kali martial arts. My Wing Chun instructor who is in his 70s. I can't enter his defence empty handed!!!! Wing Chun is an amazing martial arts that works for others martial arts. I'm not being critical. All I can say is that real Wing Chun instructions is valuable!

[@d3mist0clesgee12]

I agree, don't like JKD, I:m also a purest if you want a foundation for fighting. Best Swiss Army knife for combat, been using it for years as bouncer at Night clubs, strip clubs bars etc.

[@Gieszkanne]

On your t-shirt put very small "movies" under Kung Fu. This would be funny. I dont know why so many WC guys are so obsessed with JKD. JKD is so far away from WC. JKD has so much mpre from Fencing, Boxing and Savate than from WC. I think JKD is more close to real combat.

[@sirojashuaviii2877]

Bruce lee was and still is the greatest martial artist there ever will be. But taking into account also every martial artist is great just gotta know how to use it to full potential and being consistent with it. If you’re talking about real heavy fighters its gonna be hard to compete against a skilled fighter no matter what martial arts they do.

[@andrewt8721]

Another informative lesson but lets talk Motorcycles while choofing on a Cuban cigar in the man cave.

[@germancrespo2724]

Simple look...if you practice MMA...is like you practiced jeet kune do...so what the hell man... remember Bruce Lee was an actor . making kung fu his own personal version...so...what the beef... after all..we all want to win..no matter how ..win is win ....thanks

[@fistofthenorthstar9010]

that soul patch is a wig. he can't grow hair. thats why no eyebrows

[@WholeCosmos]

let yourself go Bro. Eat and drink less ick hed. and I totally appreciate your old man status and perspective.