J-Hack Pure: Tiny Brickless ITX Case

[@blueeyednick]

So happy about those startup companies coming up with such cases, I'm a huge fan of mini itx since a long time

[@wombit]

First upload after hiatus, great stuff. A Mini-ITX X570, Ryzen 5 3400G + 8 GB of fast 3200MHz RAM of would be godlike for a case like this. The 3400G's Vega 11 will be great for low-settings gaming as well as a normal desktop build.

[@wombit]

@Torbjorn The price can, of course, vary from country to country, But according to UserBenchmark, The 3400G is ~12% better than the 2400G. cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-3400G-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-2400G/m825156vsm433194

[@Felix-ve9hs]

16GB of DDR4-3600 would make much more sense (or else you just have 6GB RAM + 2GB VRAM for example)

[@wombit]

@@Felix-ve9hs What games is anyone gonna run with a Vega 11 that require 16 GB of RAM?

[@wombit]

@FDMtech i can run Battlefront 2 EA on minimum settings at 60 FPS with 8 GB of DDR3 memory. With stutter, sure, but not to the extent that the game is unplayable.

[@Saxie81]

@@wombit you're always doing stuff in the background

[@paul66766]

the Pure is in the foreground, but I always find myself looking at the LZ7 in the background!

[@mohd5rose]

This case would be perfect with AMD APU build.

[@juggalotuz04]

Check out the In Win Chopin. That's what I have, with a 3400g, comes with a 150 watt power supply also

[@victorsandoval6501]

@@juggalotuz04 Hi, does the cooler that comes with the 3400g fits on the chopin?

[@juggalotuz04]

@@victorsandoval6501 if it's the stealth cooler as I recall, yes. but you need to remove the top shroud off and it just fits snugly.

[@victorsandoval6501]

@@juggalotuz04 Thanks! i saw that hack in another video but wasnt sure :)

[@movax20h]

@@juggalotuz04 Yeah, I think InWin Chopin, is actually better in terms of design and features. I love how they use the PSU, no extra adapters, and safer (no exposed high voltage components, or extra weird cabling). But the build quality could be a bit better in the InWin Chopin. I am still hunting for the perfect Brickless ITX case with no dGPU. Also hunting for 12VO Flex psu.

[@Ubaldo..]

My opinion is today personal computers must be small, fast and with few cables. Nobody wants a messy house, so these items are very good and functional for today's world. Thanks for sharing this video!

[@50H3i1]

Instead of 9600k you should've used 3400G for better gpu performance

[@iankphone]

This really needs a zen2 APU build...

[@graemes8187]

they arent out yet lol

[@MudkipMan97]

Ryzen 3400G and 3200G are based on Zen+ meanwhile 3600, 3700x, etc. are based on Zen 2

[@graemes8187]

@Joey Tech Talks i was hoping the sarcasm was obvious. But in all honesty, I'd wait for a Zen2 APU Navi + 35% improved CCX? hell yeah

[@ElCanalDelPadrino]

I really liked this build, simple yet elegant and practical computer

[@gerrymangione]

Love the case. Nice build! Two ideas for improvement: choose the black version of the Noctua. Paint the housing of the PSU with black color.

[@captain15642]

perfect case for 3400g Thanks for posting

[@rachmaniarsetyaputri2400]

im always excited when he's reviewing small itx cases.. keep up ur good work.. hope will still reviewing itx themed things ..

[@blueeyednick]

Thank you! Will consider buying it for a mini itx if it's not too expensive.

[@andrewvickers4487]

As a newbie comparing mini pc options the DIY route is very interesting and yet it's hard to find good guides for non-gaming mini pc builds. This is one of them and you've really got me going with the whole thing, and I look forward exploring the channel and maybe see more of this kind of thing (already watched the mac mini style one - great). You can get some amazing value mini pcs now but once you know what you're doing it might still be even more cost effective to DIY, among other things?

[@MirelRC]

I can enjoy your video even on 360p. I hope that in the future we'll gonna have a faster video processing on youtube, so in first seconds after the video is published it can be seen in 720p at least.

[@Felix-ve9hs]

30 Minutes later and 2160p (4K) is available :^)

[@Tekeverything]

It said processing was complete... that's annoying

[@MirelRC]

@@Tekeverything yeah... I know. I have posted a video of 5 mins in private and it took ~10 mins to get 720p quality. Anyway I appreciate your work.

[@Kmn01923]

I love mini ITX pc, and you are my true guider! Always thank you for introducing great stuffs for this little information existing topic.

[@jackpatteeuw9244]

I would love to see a build featuring that case, or something similar, and a ITX mobo featuring a Ryzen 2 chipset (X570, Ryzen 5 or 7). The problem is, neither the 3600 or 3700X (65W) have onboard GPU. Need a small fanless GPU board that will fit !

[@jordanallison7105]

From the website, it doesn't seem to come with a power button on it, so it is $171 to get a case, power button, and 200 watt PSU with cables (because you have to buy the PSU cables separately too). I won't buy it at this time, but thanks for making a video on it. Oh well, continuing the wait for an ITX case with an internal PSU that doesn't nickel and dime the customer. It seems like this would be the type of company to exclude screws too, but offer to sell the screws for $9.99. haha

[@j-hack7998]

The power button comes with the case at the price shown. You can select a silver one or a black one before adding to cart. And it comes with all the screws you need to build it and install an ssd. Adhesive feet is included, and the shipping cost is included. Tek Everything didn't realize that the power entry connected from the outside so it seemed like it was missing mounting hardware but it does not. Hope that helps answer your concerns.

[@toba9005]

No tienes idea de lo que espere pará ver videos nuevos tuyos sobre ITX cases 🥺

[@Jojo4life639]

Im sure the retail version would have the screws. At 5:49, where your finger is it looks like a wire should be grounded to the chassis via those screws although the PS and MOBO should already be grounded.

[@jas_bataille]

My God... the pre-order for the second version of this case has ran out... this case is sold-out on *pre-order* right now :O Wow

[@naeklaeror3351]

one thing you could do is hook up a pcie extender and mod the case to support said extender.. and when you need to take things on the go, just pop the case open, pop out the pcie card, put the case cover back on and boom you're good to go

[@naeklaeror3351]

just need an angle grinder or something to do it

[@WiseSilverWolf]

Black Linus you should do a video with the Node 304, you can use Mini-ITX or Mini-DTX motherboards with it and fit a tower cpu cooler and full sized (3 fan) video card inside that case. The case only costs $80-$90 in most places and it fits Noctua fans as well.

[@Tekeverything]

I'm not a fan of that case tbh

[@WiseSilverWolf]

@@Tekeverything Ah No problem, just figured it would make a good video because its a popular Mini-ITX case that doesnt costs too much and has lots of options so in a sense its like a Honda Civic, everyone might not like Civics but they are popular.

[@FirstLast-tx3yj]

@@Tekeverything can I use 2 of this psu 200w to the board and 200 w to the gpu Or 1 from this psu to the normal system and a dell 220w for the gpu plugged into its 6 pin directly Right?

[@meteormedia7021]

Great little case for an APU build

[@dirtyg9444]

Love your work, all the best and continued success

[@englishman89]

Quick note 3:40 on j-hack website is noted that it's up to 140w passive and up to 200w active. So it's silent up to 140w, not 200w.

[@user-xh5pi2nf9q]

This looks like a great HTPC case

[@gregcy89]

I love this guy's mini builds :D

[@obesuspuer88]

Love your videos man. Your quality deserves way more subscribers. Keep up the good work!

[@hofweb]

Nice to see you making videos again.

[@palicar]

That’s perfect for what I’m looking for. Thanks

[@p_mouse8676]

Btw, the honeycomb shield is also to block any EMI (Electromagnetic interference)

[@fabiolourenco1827]

Man, start using a smaller lav or a boom, that think there is really distracting. Great vid though.

[@8bitsamurai6]

Josh from nfc has a s4m nano coming out at some point like this.

[@tomimn2233]

considering iris gpu are capable of running Fortnite, Overwatch, League of Legends and Rocket League at 1080p, low setting at a playable 30+ frames per second, I'd say this is one heck of a good build.

[@Ubaldo..]

I bought my first mini pc in 2008 (a barebone shuttle). All my friends had huge computers with many cables. I was seen as a sort of alien. Well, today everyone uses mini pc ( when the world changes ...)

[@dother4688]

Would be a good case in a few years for an APU IMO or they could make the case a bit taller to fit an ITX GPU using a riser with the GPU facing the vents

[@_Nobody_Special]

I hacked a case together to do just that, but the problem I encountered was the GPU then obstructs airflow to the CPU cooler. It's not easy to manage airflow on such a small form factor without adding noise unfortunately.

[@dother4688]

@@_Nobody_Special I completely forgot about the CPU lol, maybe the motherboard could be mounted upside down with ventilation holes on that side too?

[@Sinqjam]

Do you think there is a 300w or 400w psu of this size ? Or maybe its possible to put 2 in this case and then cut the case to allow a big GPU...... I would love.

[@Sinqjam]

Or with the G-Unique. External psu, cut the case to allow a big GPU... could be awesome. Most tiny itx gaming build. And with semi-openair GPU.. could look great as well.

[@gundilero01]

Love the case size... I was thinking tho, what if it’s slightly bigger (longer) to the side just enough to fit a low profile gpu like gt1030 🤔🤷‍♂️

[@era7928]

Best cases for case ( no pun intended ) like this is sadly is integrated graphic. AMD APU is your way to go if you want gaming on mini case like this.

[@ivansaric4752]

gundilero01 I'm thinking same my man, no need to be even longer, just motherboard should go up right, instead of that small psu, i can live with dell prick outside of my case, and hd plex pico 200 w, direct to 24 pin pluged in, and downd bottom will have enogu space for lowe power gtx 1650, i saw some great ones from msi and gigabyte.Did you find something?

[@GogitoGTHD]

When you have a 3400g a 1030 is pointless

[@elsasslotharingen7507]

Nah. Y'all dGPU users have tons of cases for yourselves that are just as you describe, leave at least one for us iGPU users.

[@SeanBlader]

Pretty similar to the Geeek A1, which is smaller since it doesn't include the internal power supply. Of course the Geeek A1 is also only $30, it'll end up being my Plex server when I feel like my NUC isn't getting it done, and then I'll have a better upgrade path down the road if I need to have the Plex server run better.

[@DrigitaRygen]

Would be nice for a Ryzen Apu build if the APU's CPU cooler can fit in.

[@jb31842]

I built my HTPC mini-ITX build with a Ryzen 2200G in an InWin Chopin case. One trick I found on KZbin was that if you take a Wraith Stealth cooler and remove the AMD-logo shroud around the fan (it's held on with one small screw) it will just exactly fit inside the InWin Chopin. I tried it and it worked! (Plan B was going to be a practical-but-unstylish Noctua low-profile fan.) Now, this case looks like it's maybe the same size, so it should be doable.

[@eivis13]

Having seen ryzen 3 outperform intel cpus in everything execpt a few games i'm boogled why'd you show this itx case and a 9600k.

[@Berg085]

This looks like a great case, but I feel like they should have at least tried to provide even a single USB port in the front. a single front usb-c port under the power button would at least make it easy to plug up an adapter to have easy access to plugging up things to the front. Otherwise, it's a really good direction for mini-itx cases.

[@DLTA5]

Thank you so much. I love that case and this video was a great introduction to it!

[@israelcontreras5332]

Great video featuring a great product.

[@computermdms]

you mounted the top on backwards and it shows more of the non black power supply

[@tkosse]

I like the PSU solution, but not a fan of the empty, unused cutouts in the back of the case. The vendor should supply something that covers those over. Plus the lack of even one front panel USB connection is a deal-breaker for me.

[@mtunayucer]

Tom Kossler fpanel usb means extra unnecessary wires inside tiny case. I can understand why they opted to not have one.

[@meocats]

You can have onboar graphics if you want some graphics processing

[@maggi98mw]

Wouldn't this be awesome for a Ryzen 3400g build?

[@esra_erimez]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@ryans3199]

Is it my imagination or does it kind of look like the side with the PCIe slot could be expanded with like, some kind of attachment for a GPU compartment? A 200W power unit can handle a GTX 1650, maaaaaybe possibly even a 1660. Although I wouldn't mind a build that's "pure," being almost entirely cable-less in the sense of, you use only m.2 for hard drives, and the 1650 can live on power from the PCI slot alone. Asus makes ITX boards that will host 2 m.2 drives, albeit at the expense of reducing your PCI lanes to x8 speeds, but for a 1650 or even a 1660 you don't need all of it. Zotac makes a super tiny 1650 that would go along with this if the design was there. I would buy it at that point no question.

[@mikelo303]

I am looking for something simmilar but with Ryzen 3700 and one or two VMe drives for Music production. TO summ it up. Has to be fast CPU, fast SSD and as quiet as possible.

[@jon466]

Where can I get these cables? I’m trying to replicate this build and need the cables for the meanwell power supply

[@drawillusion]

Jay, what microphone are you use in this video? I'm looking for the same microphone you are using in your recent videos. Thank you!

[@danieleb588]

Please review the new XTD version of Lazer LZ7!!

[@hololightful]

Do you know the clearance between the top of the CPU cooler (that Noctua NH-L9i) and the top of the case? Really, I'm trying to find the dimensions of that motherboard with that cooler (especially the height)

[@nuharaf]

Does that small psu actually deliver their rated power ?

[@BlackWolF_1374]

Can you make an unboxing with Silverstone case ML06B for example with AMD A8 9600 (Budget CPU) please? A8 9600 is that right chose to make a media center pc and what kind of motherboard (mainboard), Power-Supply and cooler are you going to use?

[@tintedpc7362]

Do u know if there's a type of power supply that let u hold charge like a laptop for a small PC like this?

[@blackops320]

Hello what is the exact model of the Mean Well power supply did you use?

[@adubseven]

A similar sized laptop psu brick would be out of the way behind his desk and definitely out of sight behind the tv stand he showed. I'd say refer to the J-Hack website to see how to properly connect the power plug, and of course terminate that ring terminal to ground the psu. Tek Somethings on this one unfortunately.

[@echimadrian2007]

What's the model for that power supply from Meanwell?

[@kgbtechnics5985]

Hi! Thanks for the video but where do you get that meanwell psu? Can you provide link or model number? Thanks

[@Saxie81]

Do we have any efficiency numbers for the power supply?

80 bucks with a decent psu is actually a really good price.

[@justmatt9296]

Does this need an external power brick to power it?

[@kejrv300]

Hello there what Stand are you using for your wide monitor

[@Wirenfeldt1990]

Would you be able to put an SSD of some kind in the PCIe slot?

[@deldarel]

as long as it's 0-width. The intel 750-series wouldn't fit. But they sell a 0-width PCIe to M.2 NVME adapter. Because of the relatively low price and the sparse PCB in the picture I assume it doesn't have the logic to convert SATA to PCIe so you're limited to just NVME then.

[@Tekeverything]

Possibly, if the adapter was low enough

[@Sacraty]

Hi, can you fit a mobo with m.2 behind on this case?

[@DoomWalker42]

If I took out the internal psu could I install a low profile gtx 1650 in there maybe with a riser cable?

[@Sinjected]

Can you review the Pure X and Pure MK2?

[@Hippieinthewoods]

I wish they put the PSU on the side in the XL, the height would be a inch shorter.

[@tehcmn]

Hate to be that guy, but that AC input into the meanwell looks like a fire waiting to happen. That cross section looks totally inadequate for 200W. And you left the AC ground flapping in the breeze! Should that psu fail short the case could very well be at mains potential... But other than that it looks great, and much like one ive had my eye on on ebay for a while for a R 3 3200G build.

[@irulmaleo7438]

What the psu /power supply use in this video ?

[@khyron6]

Great case review as always. Thanks

[@turtleboi9385]

Does the power supply come with the case? or where to buy it

[@SumitSharma-bb6cb]

Hey Tek can you build one brickless itx with HD plex 250w GAN passive AIO Atx psu??

[@mikelo303]

One thing this case is really missing are magnetic dust covers inside

[@axemods03]

U should redo it but with ryzen 3200g and test gaming performance keep the good vids

[@Евгений-м3ч4д]

They should have made this case with GPU (low profile 1050ti and so on) in mind instead of internal PSU, would be awesome. I`m pretty sure you will need 150W external brick for that though.

[@ccricers]

J-Hack is making another case like that which looks similar to this one: It's called the Pure X and will support low profile GPUs and internal power supply.

[@SegaSaturn4Life]

As long as the PC can do 1080p medium to high settings id still be happy considering the size.

[@8bitsamurai6]

Dont get me wrong I like intels speed but why not the 3400g for this?

[@Tekeverything]

I was really just showing off the case. Not doing a full build this time around. The i5 is also better for stress testing.

[@dubloid]

Hello! Can you please tell me the title of a musical composition starting at 4:06? Thx!

[@clock793]

Can you use a GT 1030 with this rig?

[@_Nobody_Special]

To me it seems a little under engineered for 80 bucks, unless the PSU is of better quality than your usual bundled PSU. Front I/O would be nice at the very least.

[@Dyto69]

Nice case and great Video.

[@Rook8501]

The case and power units cost about the same as a second hand Alienware Alpha. It also doesn't have a GPU or you'd need an APU, the alpha has its own dedicated GPU. Not worth it in my eyes but each to their own.

[@FrankAllotta]

I noticed you only connected 1 4-pin connector to the CPU power on the board. You don't need all 8 I guess?

[@mtunayucer]

Frank Allotta you need 8 pin for better power delivery for overclock or higher boost clocks.

[@ejaejaejaej]

Any option for 2 x 3,5" HDD?

[@protoman1214]

what speaker stand are those?

[@EvoEvolver]

would go with an external gpu if we can find a thunderbolt usb c input

[@derekdauzat]

would a stock ryzen 3200g cooler fit

[@SomeTechGuy666]

What case is on your desk at 0:18 ?

[@romnhg]

Кароч, мужик я себе сам сейчас такое создаю, только напечатан корпус на 3д принтере, питание сделано через блок питания от ноутбука, это оч круто

[@Aquatoy]

Hell. Yes. I. Want. More. Love the content.

[@glu968]

What’s the model of that PSU?

[@Raven-lg7td]

damn such a shame they didnt make the case a bit longer and support low profile GPUs, with internal PSU it would be huge

[@j-hack7998]

Hm... I wonder what such a case may be called if we did make one. What about Pure X(panded)? ;)

[@karar302]

What's the solution for 500 watts power supply in this type of case?

[@tannerdickie72]

Where does the SSD or HDD go

[@MrSparkums]

Great vids man!

[@warnacokelat]

The 2.5'' SSD bracket is sold separately. And you can't go brickless with the bracket installed. :((

[@HieuNguyen-ek2by]

You can still install at least one ssd without the bracket.

[@jb31842]

You might prefer the InWin Chopin. Can fit two 2.5" drives and it's got a brickless internal PSU. It might be bigger than this case though.

[@tomwes8390]

It looks very good. No branding very nice but I have a few critiques for them and improvents for a next case or new version: 1. Dust filter. 2010 ITX cases ok I can live with it but in 2019 I expect these small cases to ship with an included dust filter.2. Zero 2.5 inch SSD/HDD support? Bad choice since M.2 is still expensive and alot of motherboards only ship with one making storage options very limited. 2. They should have went the ASRock Deskmini route with an very small tray under the motherboard where you can fit 2 of those. *PLEASE DO NOT DO IT LIKE SOME OTHER CASES WHERE YOU HAVE A TRAY ABOVE THE CPU FAN!* 3. The various power input holes is a nice idea but not practical. They should either pick a standard big hole where you can push it out and make it smaller for a smaller power input hole like sim cards have where you push out if you want Nano sim/Microsim or just leave it standard SIM size or have it like that but include plugs so you can plug the unused power input holes up to avoid turbulance/dust intake. 4. Feet. If you want the case to stand up I expect them to include metal/rubber feet or make it a optional option where you can buy them seperately. The case must support these properly with mounting holes for the feet to screw in to instead of adhesive as adhesive is a bad solution for case feet. However something like a adhesive sticker can be used if you do not want to use case feet and hide the mounting screws if you wish to prefer that. This way you have the best of both worlds.

[@j-hack7998]

Hello, I welcome feedback but I'd like to address some of your points. 1. A case this small with good airflow is very simple to keep dust free most of the air moves outward without dropping dust. It is also very easy to do a quick maintenance blast of air once a month. There is support for a single 2.5ssd mount in the rear. If you need more storage, the case fits with more ssd if you give up the internal power supply. M.2 is actually now the same price as 2.5ssd. Maybe you are referring to NVME drives? Regardless, most SATA m.2 drives are the same price as their 2.5 counter part. 2. There is no tray above the cpu. More and more builders are going with single m.2 for simplicity. Also, keeping the bottom clean means it looks nice if one really wanted to stand it vertically. 3. There no turbulence in the rear of the case because there is not airflow going around there. There is no set standard power input and this is the only case out there that covers so many options, including hdplex and internal acdc. If it is bothersome, some electrical tape can stealthly cover it. It was design to ultimately versatile for many different builds. 4. It comes with sticky feet when you buy it. Many users seem to prefer not to attach them though.

[@tomwes8390]

1. Not everyone wants or has the time to do that once a month. You have to consider that people might want to use this as like a home office PC or HTPC mediacenter/server so it has to be able to run 24/7 and maintenance maybe once a year. Dust buildup depends on your surrounds and especially if you have pets it goes up quick if you don't have dust filters. Its indeed true that if you use this 24/7 the CPU fan removes most dust by itself excluding other things such as pet hair but if you go on something like a vacaction and you have it turned off for extended amounts of time if you use it as something like a PC it builds up. For a 50 dollar case I would have lived with this but for this pricepoint I expect either included dust filters for all sides or optional dust filters. Like you also said you can't just buy metal ones from the internet so the case must support the filters or use a different metal that is magnetic for the next case. 2. I meant storage options as in extended storage. 4TB SSD's dont come cheap even if its a SATA M.2 SSD. I am mostly talking about HDD options. You also have to consider that M.2 is not normal yet on every motherboard as far I know especially the budget ones. Yes I get that you can go the DIY route and just tape the SSD's to the side of the case but thats not an option for HDD's and especially for this price I expect proper mounting. A picture how ASRock has done it aswell as many other builders with new cases: ic.tweakimg.net/camo/c5c0a5babfcf43a3dfbe448721c52210e112c81b/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tgoossens.nl%2Freviews%2FAsrock%2FH110_Deskmini%2FPics%2FIMG_4680.jpg 3. Excuse me with turbulance I must have meant also dust intake buildup. Metal sheet cover that you pop out and choose which ones you will use is way the solution for this like cases have with PCI slots where you pop out the ones you need to use. These popout metal sheets are relatively easily made since so many products use these for all sorts of things. Electical tape is not an solution for this.

[@j-hack7998]

@@tomwes8390 1. All modern motherboards itx, from Intel 200 series and AMD 300 series and on comes with with an m.2 drive. The premium comes with two. If you are using budget nvme drives, which is only slight price increase, you can use at least 2 with the addition of an nvme adapter. HDD based on multiple feedback has not been a building factor, and as previously stated, it has stock mount for one, and up to 3 if you forgo internal psu. Most users with high volume data requirements are using NAS with data redundancy nowadays. If you find an easily available budget itx that lacks an m.2 you can email me and I'll give you a 10% discount off your cart ;) 2. Unfortunately, even small quality upgrades heavily increase costs. These units are precision laser cut and bent into shape. Unlike asrock which uses a stamping processes which produces chassis like those for only a few dollars each. Any small little increase in SKU assembly heavily increases costs for such a custom low run unit. Unlike many itx cases which are shipped from China with little to no support, we ship from USA and will warranty any defect you find. 3. There is no air intake in the cutouts and the rear cutouts are not positioned horizontally where dust can fall in. CPU cooler develops positive pressure and pushed air out the vents, so there is no reasonable way for dust to enter via the rear cutouts.