J. Haydn: Symphony No. 60 "Il Distratto" | Giovanni Antonini | Il Giardino Armonico (Haydn2032 live)

[@journeymancellist9247]

Haydn is my desert island music. I’d never get tired of him.

[@ursularissmann-telle4000]

Nicely expressed. Yes, he is a whole universe. ❤

[@McIntyreBible]

The part where the musician tune up their instruments (23:30) is actually part of the repertoire!

[@conquerormusicandgaming6204]

Yes, even symphonies always contain 4 movements but this is 6.

[@BlueInk912]

HAYDN humour❣️ ill distrato a hint😂😉. Notice anything familiar right at the start?

[@peterbently1533]

The symphony began in 1774 as incidental music to a comedy called “Der Zerstreute” (“The Absent Minded Gentleman”), originally written in French as “Le Distrait” in 1697 by Jean-François Regnard. “Il Distratto” is the Italian title, found in Haydn’s score. The abrupt halt for “tuning up” in the finale represents a moment in the play where the main character forgets it is his wedding day and ties a knot in his cravat to remind himself.

[@josefpuhringer7173]

😊❤🎉 ..diese Haydn Komposition ist einfach exzellente Kunst! Es belebt die Sinne und erfreut den Menschen, der Schönes liebt! 🎼🎵🎶🌞

[@larsfrandsen2501]

Superb conducting! And of course, an orchestra that reward that.

[@風呂幸]

No matter where you live, day or night, music always resonates with someone.

[@АллаГолубцова-м7т]

Слава ТВОРЦУ за возможность слушать это чудо в таком формате.БРАВО исполнителям и дирижеру,их эмоциональное исполнение не может оставить равнодушным.

[@claudiosironi7591]

Magnifica esecuzione

[@waqasahmed3422]

Genius of Haydn never fails to surprise and entertain.

[@fabiofrescura7679]

Aaaah! The genius of Haydn! Something new and remarkable in every one of his symphonies!! What a delight!! Always bright, always fresh.

[@peterschunk480]

Wow! How marvelous is this symphony and the excellent performace as well! A real musical travel with a lot of adventures through dark forest, sunny meadows with flowers, mountains and with a fast running mountain river in the end. Genial!

[@peterbently1533]

Fantastic spirit and such commitment and evident enjoyment from the players. Few conductors “get” Haydn as thoroughly as Antonini.

[@richardkmason4351]

Beautifully performed! Most enjoyable.

[@keesvanes2311]

What a delight! So brimming with musical ideas. After 245 years this is still completely contemporary music - it just happens to be in the classical style.

[@marieclaudetremouille8740]

Con queste esecuzioni è chiaro che chi dirige l'orchestra è anche lui un strumento musicale.

[@seneca4625]

Best performance of this symphony you'll ever hear.

[@PP1969GR]

yes, but video's sound is no good. Third part could be a bit slower

[@joselopes2293]

This 60th symphony is incredible wonderful. The Haydn music has the particularity to touch us emotionally very deeply not only in the movements of great vibration as the calmer moments, his music is truly amazing. The talent, sensitivity, the grace and elegance are attributes of this outstanding composer. The orchestra and direction performance are exceptional. Viva Haydn and his divine music.Thanks for this magnificent recording that truly delight us .

[@manlioerta7221]

Bellissima sinfonia e bellissimo il suono d'insieme . Grande la musica di Haydn. Manilius

[@mArc0-k4x1h]

Fantastico finale ...hydn era un umorista della vita Grande

[@macinafrancesco3516]

Tutte le piu' importanti Istituzioni concertistiche, con la ripresa della musica dal vivo devono assolutamente inserire nei programmi tutte le sinfonie di F.J.Haydn in vista del centenario del 2032, insieme a tutta la musica sacra,cameristica, oratoriale ed operistica.

[@joachimehlers5380]

Como estas Este Tarde muy bien,Musica premiada alla Haydn muy recomendado,,Muchas gracias por grabacicion Interpretation tambien alla Colaborades.Saludo Para JoachimEhlers de Costa Rica

[@janvanoort7516]

This performance has turned upside down everything I though about Haydn's symphonies. I thought them somewhat boring, interesting mostly because in the young Beethoven their influence is clearly apparent. I didn't know that Haydn could be played with such brilliance and so much gusto. Thank you @Haydn2032 for posting what has become a turning point in my "career" as a listener and lover of Baroque music.

[@JeanPaul-Hol65]

Better late than never, dude ... 😉 Haydn is, without a doubt, one of the greatest Masters of the history of the Symphony. His instinct for form and his sense of humour are unmatched in the European Classic style.

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

Jan van Oort For me, this series of recordings is delivering performances with the *impact* they would have had during Haydn’s lifetime, an impact which made him the most celebrated composer across Europe in the late 18th century. In short, the time and care spent on preparing the performances by musicians of this calibre, playing the works not as routine, but con amore, is nothing short of revelatory. When complete, the Haydn 2032 project will stand with the greatest recording projects ever completed.

[@diegoparra8178]

Dude Haydn is not Baroque.

[@jcui5007]

But Haydn is not a baroque composer. No one less than Mozart and Beethoven respected and learned much from Haydn.

[@sinivet]

@@diegoparra8178 he was born in the baroque era and created the classic era

[@Анна-у3ф7г]

Слушайте восхитительную музыку Гайдна!!! С вашей душой будет совершаться чудо!!!

[@serseniucst]

🌼

[@s.y7373]

18:48 この曲の第5楽章のアダージョは非常に美しい旋律で何と表現したら良いか、心に沁みます。 ベートーベンやモーツァルトの曲には ないハイドン特有の美しさがある様です 。😢

[@mereyeslacalle]

Fascinación es................., escuchar al genio de Haydn , y ver a Giovanni Antonini dirigiendo a Il Giardino Armonico. Bravo Haydn 2032 !!

[@andreagriseri7656]

Creativity, pure creativity! One of the best symphonies ,unless not so famous, written by Haydn. And wonderful performance

[@АлияАбрамова-к2с]

Браво!

[@Contemplatix]

Haydn and Mozart MUST be played by Italians! Bravissimo, Maestro Antonini! Your orchestra plays not only with phenomenal skill, but straight from the heart; delicate, witty, just wonderful!

[@Siewai7]

"I've heard Italian opera. All those male sopranos screeching, stupid fat couples rolling their eyes. That's not love its just rubbish!" - Amadeus

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

Siewai7 And that’s not Mozart - it’s Peter Schaffer!

[@Siewai7]

Elaine Blackhurst That’s why I quoted the film 😉

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

Siewai7 Quite right too. Unfortunately, some people think Amadeus is an historical biographical film, and treat Schaffer’s words as gospel - which they clearly are not. Just added my comment to make sure that was clear to the uninitiated. Just for the record: Mozart attended, wrote and enjoyed Italian opera all his life.

[@Siewai7]

@@elaineblackhurst1509 Precisely. I've found 'Amadeus' is best used to introduce people to the music of Mozart.... as well as Salieri's!

[@FRAGIORGIO1]

Eccellente, Maestro e musici. Bravissimi tutti. Hanno fatto onore a Haydn. Avanti a 2032 !

[@mihalisboufidis8998]

Ich gratuliere Jan van Oort! Bravo. Incredibile Haydn, fantastic! Wunderbar! Niemand hat eine solche symphonie komponiert!! Love Haydn! Das ist Musik von ... 2032 !!! Der dritte, vierte und sechste Satz verweisen auf unsägliche musikalische Länder! Ich fange an zu glauben, dass die größten Komponisten (zumindest von den berühmten) Alessandro Scarlatti, John Sebastian Bach und Francis Joseph Haydn sind !!! Küsse für alle!

[@leonardomauretti6742]

E' come se Haydn fosse tornato tra di noi. Ho ascoltato altre grandi esecuzioni in passato, la Militare e la 93 di Abbado, la 82 e 85 di Karayan la 86 e 88 di Bruggen. Ma queste hanno una vivacità ed una freschezza ed un'aderenza alla personalità musicale di Haydn assolutamente eccezionale. Fuori da ogni routine che ogni tanto affligge anche rinomati interpreti. Potenti e brillanti ed un grande feeling fra direttore ed orchestra. Li aspetto con grande piacere a Roma il prossimo Febbraio, come tutti gli anni da qualche anno a questa parte... fino al 2032.

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

Leonardo Mauretti Un commento e recensione molto riflessivo e percettivo. Questo è un progetto meraviglioso di altissimo livello artistico e musicale. Stiamo ascoltando un nuovo Haydn.

[@zigosepalum5641]

Interprétation à la hauteur de cette symphonie qui est l'une des plus géniales de Haydn.

[@rafaelteodoro4213]

Um privilégio poder ouvir e sentir esta obra de Haydn.

[@mrJohnDesiderio]

Maestro Antonini these performances are amazing! You mine every bit of gold . These will be the benchmark for decades to come.

[@claudio8313]

Grande sinfonia, grande esecuzione!

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

Another very interesting performance in this exciting series. Amongst Haydn’s symphonies, it is unique - almost - in that it is essentially a sequence of six movements of incidental music to a comic play ‘Le Distrait’, performed as a symphony during four days of festivities put on when an important Hapsburg visitor came to Eszterhaza. The symphony is known universally by its Italian title ‘Il Distratto’’, rather than the name of the French play. Whilst listening, it is worth recalling that some of the oddities of the music are in fact accompanying what was going on on the stage and are as intimately tied to the action as, for example, Mendelssohn’s braying donkeys in his Midsummer Night’s Dream music. It is a C major, high horns, trumpets and timpani symphony of 1774, and was popular immediately and throughout Haydn’s lifetime. In 1803 as an old man, he was reminded of the symphony and referred to it rather disparagingly as ‘den altern schmarrn’ (idiomatic translation = ‘that old potboiler’), nevertheless, it nevertheless works well with audiences today. ‘Il Distratto’ is packed with often exotic, bizarre and catchy folk tunes and is a thrilling mixture of pure popular entertainment with rigorously intellectual high art music. One can find ballet music for dancing (2nd movement), side by side with the driving intensity of symphonic development found throughout. Two small points for the series: - Symphonies such as this one would benefit from the orchestra’s numbers being supplemented, it is a festive, ceremonial and public work, not a chamber symphony. - Secondly, I agree with Fabio Grassi (below), that the pause between movements five and six is too long and ‘priva di senso’ - this is an ‘attacca subito’ moment!

[@wzdavi]

Hi, We've talked Haydn performances before. Another forgotten gem. The London set, performed by Morgens Woldike and the Vienna State Opera, from the mid 1960's, The original recording company Vox, present day Bach Guild. A set form childhood, still have some of the vinyl, bought with allowance money. Listen, what do you think? You probably know it

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

wzdavi Just spotted this; like so many, my introduction to Haydn really began in the 1970’s with Dorati’s on-going complete cycle, and some of the selected symphonies issued by orchestras like Neville Marriner and the Academy of St Martin in the Fields (‘Name’ symphonies), and Barenboim and others with the English Chamber Orchestra. These were soon joined by many of the big beasts such as Karajan and the Berlin Philharmonic - and there had always been a number of older recordings from around the world - and of course there was also the impact of the original/authentic instrument orchestras. Many of us never really forget some of our earliest recordings of works and remember them with affection, this obviously applies in my case with Dorati even though I know that in some respects, these performances are slightly dated. I will, as ever, check out your suggestion.

[@christianwouters6764]

Disheartening that a genius as Haydn didn't benefit very much from the popularity of some of his works. Nowadays a nobody rapper becomes millionaire by concocting a 3 minute insipid song.

[@peterheiman8621]

@@christianwouters6764 I think he did very well financially, especially once he was able to go to London, and he was a shrewd businessman when it came to publishing his music. Definitely a rags to riches story, and one where nice guys finish first.

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

@@peterheiman8621 You’re quite right about Haydn’s business acumen, on his return to Vienna from London in 1795, he was, or had been dealing with - unprecedentedly - no less than six different publishers in Britain alone. On top of that, Haydn’s works were being published legitimately, with Haydn being paid, in Germany, France, the Netherlands, Vienna and elsewhere. The composer Kraus visited Haydn at Eszterhaza in 1783 as part of a four year musical tour around Europe, and wrote an interesting account of the visit.* Whilst hugely impressed - he described the orchestra as one of the best he had heard - for Kraus however, Haydn’s halo slipped somewhat as he found Haydn overly interested with money-making. Kraus wrote: ‘In Haydn, I got to know a right good soul, except for one point - and that’s money. He simply couldn’t understand why I didn’t provide myself with a drawer full of compositions to plant them whenever necessary’ ‘I answered that I wasn’t cut out to be a ... salesman’. Kraus goes on to tell a story of the composer Sterkel asking for some of Haydn’s arias for his sister, and offering some of his own in exchange - Haydn was having none of it. Kraus notes wryly that: ‘Haydn shook his head, for that was not ringing the coin of the realm...It’s a curious thing with most artists - the closer one examines them, the more they lose the halo with which [people] invest them’. Haydn’s contracts for the two London trips were also obviously extremely lucrative for the composer and are too well known to need repeating here. Another example of his shrewdness - actually being downright unscrupulous - is selling the same works to different publishers or patrons as being ‘exclusive’. Haydn even went so far as changing the order of works in sets, so that publishers’ agents in different cities might not discover the truth of their ‘exclusive’ works. Beethoven when charged similarly with selling works simultaneously to different publishers, justified himself by saying that it was exactly what Haydn had always done. In summary, you’re partly right about Haydn the ‘nice guy finishing first’: finishing first - yes; nice guy - not sure. Haydn was the shrewd businessman** - he had to be - but he played the world as it was, pre-copyright, with consummate skill. As Kraus noted, he found this somewhat unattractive. It was an aspect of Haydn, somewhat contrary to today’s popular image of the composer that is perhaps worth pointing out to for those wishing to understand him a little better. * The details are in HC Robins Landon ‘Haydn: Chronicle and Works’, Volume 2, Haydn at Eszterhaza. ** Haydn received for each of the six ‘Paris’ symphonies (1784/85) about five times the fee per symphony that Mozart had been paid by the same organisation in 1778 for his ‘Paris’ Symphony 31 (K297). In addition, Haydn received a further fee for publication rights.

[@DJCtrumpet]

It is neat to see the period instruments in use!

[@juliocesaralves7502]

Lá belas 💖🌍💖🙏🕉🌻🌼🦄🌹⚘👽🌷🙌👏🍻🍻🍻⚜♾🌌lindo maravilhoso! Gratidão 🐇🐧🕊

[@MrFiddler66]

Il 6 gennaio 1776 andava in scena al teatro Kaernthnerthor la commedia in cinque atti "Der Zerstreute", una traduzione di "Le distrait" di Jean François Regnard. Come si può leggere in una gazzetta dell'epoca, tra un atto e l'altro venne eseguita una sinfonia appositamente scritta dal "famoso Joseph Haydn Kappelmeister, al servizio del principe Esterhazy". Questo spiega le singolarità di un'opera unica nella produzione di Haydn non soltanto perché dotata di sei movimenti, ma anche per la molteplicità delle tonalità, per le allusioni descrittive e bizzarre di ogni sorta. Tenuto conto di questa particolare natura di musica che commenta un'azione teatrale, si deve pure constatare che lo stile di Haydn non si è lasciato vincolare dal soggetto, ma anzi lo ha accettato come pretesto per le impennate della sua fantasia. Riaffiorano in una veste ancora più brillante, le formule felici utilizzate nei vari periodi della attività creativa, a partire dal "Filosofo" n.22. LDC 2 Rispondi

[@evalinnert7736]

Danke für soo...viel Information über Haydn und seiner Zeit ❤

[@jeanlrm]

Bravo! I just found out this proyect and is magnificent! I'll buy all your work for sure!!

[@JayJay-lb6po]

It is one of the best. Thank you.

[@richdisilvio4591]

Very nicely played! BRAVO! Another pleasant work from the Father of Symphonies - Joseph Haydn.

[@shnimmuc]

This is More than pleasant

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

shnimmuc You’re absolutely correct: this series of recordings is setting new standards in this repertoire and is on course to supersede all previous attempts to record Haydn’s symphonies.

[@stpd1957]

FAB-U-LOUS. I have the first 10 CDs and am going to get the rest very soon

[@fabiograssi670]

Per il resto, una splendida esecuzione.

[@iggyreilly2463]

Love how he uses the same Hungarian tune he used in the finale of the Keyboard Concerto in D here in the 4th movement (*though the symphony probably came first).

[@jauscielingjauquae3539]

BRAVO BRAVO

[@estrelladeltajo1352]

Wonderful

[@ivanbeshkov1718]

I had the LP in 1972, that's how I know this enjoyable music, not from radio, where his later symphonies are favored.

[@clivecowlard7098]

I bet that was with David Blum and the Esterhazy orchestra on Vanguard records... I wore mine out

[@ivanbeshkov1718]

Quite possibly, the label was sort of yellow. On the other side was I think symphony No. 49 The Passion, also seldom heard on radio.

[@capezyo]

Excelent...

[@javierbernardodelgado7766]

Muchas gracias por esta maravillosa interpretación de Haydn. Il Giardino Armónico y Giovani Antonioni tiene una forma de una forma especial de interpretar las sinfonías. Me gusta. Ya era hora de que Haydn tuviera su propio canal en KZbin.

[@guillesotomusica]

El Tommy Iommy del violoncello!! Bravissimo

[@wobblyorbee279]

haydn and schubert writes really good 3/4's

[@na3044]

The Presto at 16:00 - you can see why both Beethoven and Mozart admired Master Haydn. And then 2 Minutes later... You can feel papa Haydn winking. Am I the onoly one that cannot sit still while listening to Haydn?

[@McIntyreBible]

After listening Haydn’s music for awhile, I have to come also to that conclusion!

[@riverwildcat1]

It's a masterpiece, and beautifully played. Haydn apparently thought it wasn't that good, but Beethoven said the same about his 'Moonlight' Sonata; and Tchaikovsky hated his Nutcracker. This is an exciting interpretation by Il Giardino, especially the dramatic volume contrasts (piano-forte) that add dimension and color.

[@andreagriseri7656]

So Haydn what was doing while composing this symphony an the adagio namely? Wasn't he conscious that a masterwork had been just created by his hands? Perfect rendition as usual maestro Antinini and Giardino armonico players!!! Thankssssss!

[@ferdinangenius]

Looking forward to get the full Cd box with your Haydn version.

[@JAOrtizCompositor]

23:32 *Yo pensaba hacer esto en alguna sinfonía mía, pero Haydn vino antes que yo al mundo y me ganó.* 😅

[@miguelsuarez8010]

Y a mi me ganó Leonardo da Vinci en pintura.....

[@canaleteatrale6662]

Timpani (Drums): Michael Juen and Trompets: Andreas Lackner & Thomas Steinbrucker Cembalo (Harpsichord): Riccardo Doni

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

It might be an idea to edit your comment and remove the misleading reference to ‘Cembalo’. As has been discussed in a number of the recordings in this series, a harpsichord continuo is *not* being used in the performances of the Haydn symphonies, and your comment is therefore inaccurate. Recte: in English - Trumpets.

[@gilpinkas9672]

Beatiful

[@danjackson5989]

23:30 The score calls for the first violin section to mistune their G strings to F and then back to G. They just kinda tinkered around and faked it hahaa... Can't blame em. Haydn you rascal! Props to the horn section for using non valved horns!

[@de31.8]

Non of the audience laughed. Them uncultured swines lol

[@sneddypie]

Kevin Lopez so said i know

[@miguelsuarez8010]

Actually the music is composed for those horns. There were no others.

[@McIntyreBible]

I don't know where Haydn got this idea from, but its genius!!

[@galas062]

yes, put them in a box set all of them....

[@tartinitrumpet]

Great performance and the recording quality is very good. Your website is not updated for 2017. Are you still performing and recording? Will you be uploading more videos?

[@Haydn2032]

Thanks for your comment! Yes, we are recording until 2032 all of Joseph Haydn's symphonies. They will also be released on KZbin, but after the corresponding CD/Vinyl has been released.

[@tgis82]

좋아요 좋아

[@duncanmckeown1292]

Surely one of Haydn's most "avante garde" works...although it is far from my favourite Haydn, I have never heard it played more convincingly. There seems to have been no limit to his endlessly fertile imagination.

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

Symphony 60 ‘Il distratto’ is actually an overture, four entractes and the finale composed originally as incidental music to a stage play performed at Eszterhaza; that explains almost all the quirky oddities in the music including the re-tuning moment in the sixth movement which refers directly to the absent-mindedness (il distratto) of the main character. One of his most popular symphonies during his lifetime (and it is fantastic entertainment), Haydn did not particularly rate it, and when the Empress requested a performance of the symphony, Haydn dismissed it as ‘…den alten Schmarrn’ (‘that old nonsense’).

[@PuuvillaneMats]

Incredible peformance. Bravo! But sorry ... trumpet players names are missing in the list of musicians.

[@ЮрийЗаславский-ю5к]

❤браво❤❤❤

[@AulisA.O.T]

23:30 TUNING TIME!

[@marianneh6410]

😊

[@gildadimarco2462]

Italiani sono i grandi direttori d'orchestra da sempre......Italia!

[@douglascook6378]

Yes, but not all Italian directors are great.

[@auvillars]

❤

[@wobblyorbee279]

probably the first person to hear classical music will be like "are classical music always like this?" 😂

[@robertsprankle6127]

13:52 so THAT'S where "The Bombing Mission" came from!

[@Apfelstrudl]

20:48 Of course they only invited top notch hornists for that part, esp. Prof Hinterholzer ;) And you forgot to mention the Trumpets: Andreas Lackner and Thomas Steinbrucker

[@grangetowncardiff6935]

Is there a better series of Haydn Symphonies than this? If so, please let me know.

[@jameseckert8590]

This symphony became quite popular in Haydn's time, but I read a note that he himself didn't think too highly of it, referring to it as "that old pancake". I wish I understood 18th century trash talk to know what that meant?

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

In 1803, Haydn disparagingly referred to this old symphony as ‘...den altern schmarrn’; I think you’re right that it translates as ‘...that old pancake’. I would normally put it into the more idiomatic English of ‘...that old potboiler’ - this I think more accurately reflects in English what Haydn actually meant. Note: I do not speak German so would welcome any correction if I am in error.

[@walterq3]

@@elaineblackhurst1509 well "Schmarrn" literally translates to pancake but it is typical Austrian slang and means just "nonsense". We use the term still today ;-) As the Symphony was written in 1774 he maybe didn't thought that well of that "old" piece anymore.

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

@@walterq3 Many thanks for that insight, and troubling to answer to my query. My ‘potboiler’ is sort of similar to your ‘nonsense’, but your more idiomatic translation is obviously more accurate, and clearly reflects better Haydn’s precise meaning. Il distratto is hereby classified as nonsense from now on.

[@composeratlarge]

Haydn has few peers and no superiors.

[@petercrosland5502]

El Tro,mpettos!

[@ckchang-wg2lw]

Here after twoset

[@mrstovvs6760]

Same

[@Allanfearn]

The presto in IV here isn't a folk-music presto at all - you don't get the time to realise there are drones with tunes on top. Not how the folk who played for Bartok's recordings did it - and presumably Haydn's Croatian models either. You hardly have time to get out of the way here.

[@bruceanderson5538]

Dear Haydn2032, would you consider applying your superb realizations to the brother, Michael? A neglected figure, yet to your newly-arrived audience, your efforts bring previously undiscovered exaltation to lay people. Mille grazie!

[@OccyDaBoss]

wonderful, however in my opinion the last movement is far too fast

[@erlandschneck-holze4476]

... nahezu übersensibel ... was den Witz der Symphonie leicht schmälert .. tolle Interpretation aller (historisch ambitionierten) Künster

[@Discovery_and_Change]

6:32 2nd movement |

[@KarlBonner1982]

Are those horns in C alto? That's awfully high!

[@HenkVeenstra666]

I like it!

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

KarlBonner1982 Haydn did not always have trumpets available at Eszterhaza; so when he wrote symphonies, especially in C major, the high horns often substituted for what would otherwise have been trumpet parts (there were often additional timpani parts too).

[@pierpaderniastory6181]

@@elaineblackhurst1509 when the wise points at the moon the idiot look at the finger

[@Apfelstrudl]

Not too high for Prof. Hinterholzer! ;)

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

Pier Paderni a story ...and when you point the finger at someone else, three fingers are pointing back at yourself!

[@robertoflores172]

Haydn is understimated !

[@leonardoiglesias2394]

No. He is extremely boring for many people. People like me.

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

I think following about 75 years of research, scholarship, complete editions of the music, and the recording of almost all Haydn’s huge output, his stature as a great composer is more securely established and fully recognised today than at any point since his own lifetime; I do not think he is under-estimated. What I think is still true, as evidenced by the other reply - Leonardo Iglesias above - is that Haydn is still not properly understood by some listeners.

[@JeanPaul-Hol65]

@@leonardoiglesias2394 People like you are very poor in spirit then. 🤔

[@carlogambacurta548]

io sono molto distratto e da quando sono giunto ai 70 e ancor di piu.La distrazione mi ha aiutato a sopportare la vita ma naturalmente non l'ha riempita.purtroppo sono un solo distratto e mai ho saputo suonare un solo strumento anche mediocremente e mi sarei accontentato di essere un discreto dilettante..questo mi ha frustrato e non poco.la musica e disciplina difficile io piu che ascoltare non posso ma per fortuna non patisco sordita.per ora.invidio i musicisti, di ogni livello.il diSTRATTO AUGURA LA BUONA NOTTE A TUTTI I LETTORI.

[@alonapolischuk7927]

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[@danilovelasquez2539]

Marc Vignal wrote a very interesting biography of Joseph Haydn. I reviewed the book way back in 2003. For those who are interested in learning more of Haydn's works, hereunder the review : Le génie de Joseph Haydn Même pour les lecteurs dont la langue maternelle n'est pas le français, on a, à la fois, le plaisir et la facilité de lire le style littéraire de Marc Vignal, dans la biographie, et surtout l' analyse musicale des oeuvres de l'un des plus grands compositeurs, Joseph Haydn. C'est un travail très documenté, savamment conçu, avec une approche de présentation séparée pour la partie vie de l'homme et de l'artiste, d'une part, et de ses nombreuses œuvres, d'autre part. Ce qui rend cette approche davantage intéressante c'est la répartition par période qui, pour le style musical du maître de chapelle des Esterhazy, montre l'évolution des années « Sturm und Drang » jusqu'aux dernières symphonies avec des résonances « beethoveniennes », en passant par les grandes mutations en matière de sonates, concertos, opéras, oratorios, messes et autres formes musicales. La longue vie et carrière de Haydn (mort à 77 ans) a fait de lui un génie et un grand innovateur durant la phase charnière de l'histoire de la musique classique occidentale. De par ce » magnum opus » destiné à des spécialistes, mais aussi aux amateurs de Haydn, Marc Vignal, avec H. C. Robbins-Landon en Grande-Bretagne, reste incontestablement le plus grand écrivain et musicologue sur le compositeur austro-hongrois. Il n'est pas inutile de rappeler aux mélomanes les interventions fort intéressantes de Marc Vignal sur France Musique dans les années 70 et 80 pour mesurer sa profonde connaissance de la vie et des œuvres de Haydn. Cet ouvrage en un seul volume (à l'encontre de plusieurs livres de son homologue britannique) en témoigne. Aussi, les trois grandes récompenses de ce livre sont plus que méritées. Il s'avère un compagnon indispensable pour l'écoute des œuvres de Haydn au même titre que Basso pour Bach, les Massin pour Beethoven et Schubert ou de la Grange pour Mahler.

[@journeymancellist9247]

I’ve read several biographies of Haydn but they are all fairly old. Does this book contain anything particularly new? And is it available in English or German?

[@danilovelasquez2539]

@@journeymancellist9247 The book is so far only available in French.

[@mademoiselleetpasmadamesvp1482]

who is here because of 2set

[@mrstovvs6760]

Me.

[@danielpincus221]

The tympanist...isn't in the personnel list.

[@porridgeandprunes]

The tempo and dynamic changes are far too exaggerated to my taste. I can't imagine that the small refined audiences who listened to these earlier symphonies needed this style of performance to appreciate the music. May be necessary to impress modern audiences though!

[@drsergekuznetsov]

45 лучше

[@genehang]

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[@fabiograssi670]

La lunga pausa tra l'accelerando e il prestissimo finale è totalmente priva di senso.

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

Fabio Grassi Sono d’accordo al 100%.

[@leonardomauretti6742]

Dipende se in partitura c'è scritto "attacca". La logica di Haydn in questa sinfonia è quella di creare cesure.

[@pierpaderniastory6181]

punti di vista... l'arte non è "matematica"

[@fabiograssi670]

@@pierpaderniastory6181 sul fatto che il mio è un punto di vista come un altro non deve affaticarsi a, come vedo, insistere, perché non mi ritengo Dio Padre Onnipotente: che c'entri la matematica, invece, lo ha capito solo lei...

[@pierpaderniastory6181]

@@fabiograssi670 grazie del chiarimento.

[@sachseco]

conductor works too hard!

[@bruceanderson5538]

Metallica?

[@proarte4081]

No.

[@danielibanezgarcia]

Wonderful