J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Brockwood Park 1980 - The Ending of Time - Conversation 10

[@Vikaskumar_010]

These interviews are real diamond of KZbin database. But when I saw such a small view on such content I realised humanity is in wrong direction..

[@pranavbhat92]

Just a question. Are you on the right path for watching this? Also, how are you better than those who don't watch these?

[@ornellamiliciani7074]

Condivido con te grazie davvero❤️

[@ashrafulhaque8759]

Two of the greatest human beings of our time (Mr. K & Mr. Bohm) engaged in deep discussion about the real problems of life. As a witness to this, I feel immensely lucky.

[@rajagopalramani3719]

David Bohm is one of the best representative of whole humanity to reveal the truth. Don't miss any discussion of DB with JK to find out and to be the truth. Thanks to David Bohm ❤️🙏

[@dnt000]

I am blessed to have the opportunity to listen to these interviews, bless you all.

[@nikethannikethan6997]

this is the cure to all the problems of the current world. i wish these two would have been present inthe time of internet

[@elpirata5468]

The order of the Universe is not beyond Us, it is us Love, compassion

[@智慧之光-y1t]

12:20 meaning of life 20:25 Past 26:35 nothingness, emptiness 46:07 no thought, time , beings

[@kamalhalder4106]

many thanks for sharing these videos.

[@mohammedirfan8027]

Hearing him bring such joy

[@sylviagung1007]

"If there is no tomorrow, that is the healthiest living." K says. "Untangle yourself and become the universe ... that is meditation."

[@rajindergill337]

The word Dhayna means attention. This is true meditation. This is going on. One has no role to play into it. If one comes upon it it is the most beautiful thing.

[@ivangohome]

gets Incredible at the end as always.

[@observer1330]

“Don’t follow anybody and don’t accept anybody as a teacher, accept you yourself become your own teacher and disciple.” -J.K

[@ornellamiliciani7074]

Due anni fa mi espressi,in modo non appropriato,da un angolatura di ascolto parziale,ero molto invaghita di Juddy e lo proteggevo,😂oggi ho capito la grande comunione tra queste splendide persone che insieme a Juddy cercano la strada ❤️🦋

[@raksha111]

What a sharp nd light conversations and dialogue ... too much meditation here if u listen with passion

[@danielecosta958]

To be distributed in all schools in the world.

[@trasktrinder6515]

Could you just imagine!

[@JumpingTurtle77]

Perhaps the way to express this state to another is to do so through love

[@shamssi100]

Everything he discuss is true . thank you k & bohm

[@chelacarias8225]

Excelente explicación!!!Gracias Gracias Gracias!!! Felicitaciones y bendiciones

[@socialawareness3997]

Gratitude 🎉

[@stellaceleste3697]

molto profondo ..grazie

[@amdemichaelfirissa3596]

Are we both crazy?? i loved it!!!!

[@pratik6342]

Hahaha...me too 😃

[@arabianorangutang]

2:30 - Is there an order that is not man made? What is order? 22:13 - Why can’t we give up the past? 49:44 - What are the actions of a mind that’s totally empty? 1:01:40 - Is the universe in meditation?

[@saileshkumar9277]

Narayan is the same person who was also seen in Rishi valley school discussion of jk ji. I have seen in the vdo he was a little boy but intelligent

[@grahaminglis4242]

It’s a curiosity to see Krishnamurti and Narayan together in dialogue like this because Narayan is biologically related to Krishnamurti in that he is the son of one of Krishnamurti’s brothers. But K doesn’t give him any special treatment - he has to stand in his own light.

[@krox477]

There's no action of self centred. Non action is the only action

[@himanshusingh3890]

Multiple times Narayan deviates from the flow, but indeeed his presence represents, minds of the most

[@angelandany2202]

It seems that Mr. Bohm, a great physicist, is struggling to understand what JK is saying. The trouble is that JK really has nothing to say! Anyone listening carefully will realise it.

[@kathrynengel278]

I wish he did not interrupt David Bohm

[@ornellamiliciani7074]

Immenso Juddi.... se non è amore questo🦋🦄

[@danielecosta958]

Non capisco perché tutti continuino a considerare "Jiddu" il nome e non il cognome. Quest'uomo si chiamava "Krishnamurti" di nome, e "Jiddu" di cognome. Punto.

[@decid3]

The word is not the thing, merely a pointer. Why bother?​@@danielecosta958

[@ishtiaqgardezi8214]

Brain is free while we sleep. Brain is for body and it must follow a pattern for body to work.

[@gentiantafa4619]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Neocare-hr4pw]

It’s probably in seeing the fact that the past cannot be dissolved.

[@rintheunknown881]

If you see facts, there is no past.

[@lokeshparihar7672]

46:07 what does it mean to have no thought? 54:45 is cosmos in meditaion? 1:02:27 would a scientist accept such a thing? 1:03:07 universe creates forms which seems relatively constant and thereofore determined by the past

[@dilipusas191]

It's made me wonder - when i got to know - that David Bohm died by depression.

[@milestogotilisleep]

if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes into you...

[@seandowling1260]

does anybody here think it is possible, for language, as we understand it presently, to mature into "pure communication"? That is; everything peripheral to pure, direct, genuine communication, getting pushed out of the process of our maturation as a species, as a consequence of eventuality?

[@decid3]

Language itself, as we know it, is limited and limiting because it's an attempt to convey concepts. If it was harnessed by an intuitive-based civilization, then maybe.

[@mastere682]

It really is great how scientific K was, Yet! no science involved. Hmm? No K one is not gone..

[@mauriziomauricone]

Could it be Krishnamurti wants to formulate the state of the mind - while being alive - when the brain is no longer alive i.e. the moment of dying?

[@Criggeda]

He often spoke about dying without the ending of one's existence. Dying to everything each moment, so that every moment is fresh and new.

[@sadhwani83]

@@Criggeda Please define every "moment"

[@krox477]

​​@@sadhwani83living without wanting thriving for something

[@freedomorder9707]

The universe is in a state of meditation 55:03

[@godwithin060988]

No past does not = no identity unless you think that personality (the past) is your identity. Answer to the question is simple, if there is no past, what you have left is INTENTION (which is our true identity), which means there is still movement.

[@ThePrimaryAxiom]

It's true but we all live according to certain theories and beliefs. The problem is to function from insight not the ego but people today are saying direct opposite of krishnamurti. They say the ego must be in operation and that we are everything and that we control reality with our egos. Hogwash

[@sirisenajayawardana1157]

Nothingness is an extraordinary concept.

[@krox477]

It's no concept it's actuality

[@img008]

The whole point of these discussions is to discover the actuality of nothingness. It has tremendous energy. If it’s a concept, it’s time binding. Which means you’ll get bored in a few hours or a few days or a few years

[@Jeff_TUDONADA]

The last 15min k really plugged The infinite. Noticed?

[@johnchappell9232]

Can an algorithm produce a coherent pattern from random numbers? Or a coherent pattern be evident beyond, but never exhibited within a chaotic pattern. Are thoughts and feelings existing within a framework that cannot be apparent to them.? Function being the height of perception.

[@sylviagung1007]

Could it be that the state of meditation come from seriousness about living? When I am all about living and all about letting others live, is it that compassion involved? ... could this be the state out from order ...? Contemplating about life ... is it meditation? Does contemplating about life without "feeling" or judgement or ... is it the state of looking into what is ... and lead into the state of meditation ...? Would it help me forget about myself?

[@ornellamiliciani7074]

Non è possibile continua Bohome a parlare di una cosa Juddi di un altra non potrà condurli questi due matematici hanno la testa piena di nozioni e numeri,

[@pratik6342]

Are we both crazy ? 😃

[@sylviagung1007]

K says, "Be the universe, that is meditation." ...!

[@sylviagung1007]

The universe is in state of meditation," K says. That could mean that my life should or could entirely be in meditation, to work or move in harmony with the universe ... or the Truth or Reality ... Does "meditation" mean "simply being" that is the mind keep existing at the present moment, at work, at home ... taking whole responsibility? hmmm ... "healthiest way of living" ... "That is order, meditation" K says

[@carlosalbertodesouza8599]

a porta esta aberta!a humanidade esta convidada...

[@biploppaul7403]

🎉❤

[@chartedbeast3347]

Imagine 1000 people like k

[@sylviagung1007]

K wakes up meditatin. Cosmic meditation, sun, moon stars plants logs rocks oceans waters ... The universe is entirely in meditation ... Life is in meditation ... Only those things that went through human deeds,, as conditioning, has lost the ability ... because its pursuit of desires create fear and pleasure ... And everything around human activities goes through turmoil and can't stand still, can't even have a good night's sleep ...

[@sadhwani83]

Then why not any other enlightened being made effort to correct this turmoil ? Why not he himself ? Why not the ground correct it. Does the ground enjoy this turmoil that we all have put ourselves into ?

[@khimpun1346]

l agree with krishnamurti's opinion

[@williamreinoso1055]

We need words and language to describe states of mind. However, all states are chemical in nature. As human we can only capture the aftermath of the chemistry then try to ascribe it words according to the background. Maybe he realized he is stuck in this loop. As he speaks Cancer cell are taking over him. Not a chance he can experience the chemistry of cancer only the aftermath. Who knows what type of chemical experiences his body is going through that he can't be aware of. I believe he had and insight and this had the possibility of changing humanity. The problem is that his words alone("word is not the thing") couldn't bring about the chemical change to everyone that listen to him. He does hope that eventually if you keep listing something will happen "now" That will bring about a mutation. He lived in hope and died in hope. Amazing Human.

[@mastere682]

william reinoso Not quite, all states are not biological, the biological is after effects. I won't say anymore take it however you like.

[@sadhwani83]

@Mohcin Bajja cant wish you luck - that for future and abstract. It would happen 'now' :). rather he has said you don't need to be taught, analyse and realize for yourself. Dont believe in 2nd hand 'knowledge'/'time'/'past'

[@krox477]

The insight he had that we all are ego driven people

[@bartroberts3634]

the human brain even with the aide of the best computers will never be able to understand the order of what IS!Everything that IS real IS so only for a moment then it's gone for good replaced by a brand new moment never before seen ans so the creation goes on!

[@maiteyailengarciacarallero8811]

☺️😊💗🌼🌼🌼🌼

[@jamnoise72]

Who is the other guy then?

[@grahaminglis4242]

The other guy’s name is Narayan, he is related to Krishnamurti in that he’s the son of Krishnamurti’s brother. Narayan was in charge of one of the Krishnamurti schools in India. In dialogues with Buddhist scholars, Narayan sided with the Buddhists against Krishnamurti to some extent. Very similar yet different to Krishnamurti in essence. Interesting,though!

[@j-cub7107]

20:50 they speak of the impossibility of giving up the past, and of the strange idea that the future is able to be molded. I believe the past isn’t able to be given up, that much is true, but the present is able to be given up, and that is the whole idea of sacrifice. The past is irretrievable, and the future unknowable, but the present is ours to use and direct, “give up” so to speak, in order to achieve a perceived greater future for ourselves and for us as a whole. It seems the present is the realest among the trinity of time, which is where we occupy ourselves. Perhaps the concepts of the personal God and devil comprise the past and the future. God being the future, what to aim for, what to pursue and seek to please for our advancement and understanding, and the devil the past, like in dealing with trauma and what to look out for to prepare for the future. It’s in the past that traumatic events linger, as well as those blissful memories that, while tempting to remain in a prolonged state of nostalgia for what was, keeps you from pursuing the future, i.e. God. Perhaps I’m wrong, but it seems an interesting concept to me.

[@rahulpoudyal6474]

The word for 'ghosts' in hindi coincides with the word for 'past'.

[@rintheunknown881]

There is no future to pursue. That’s the same old game.

[@krox477]

There's no future life is new all the time

[@rs-vo8pw]

What is happening here?? I didn't get anything and had headache 😅

[@pratik6342]

Follow the whole series from talk 1

[@Criggeda]

I suggest starting with something else if you're new to K. These conversations require quite some understanding of the basis of what's being talked about. I can suggest watching K's conversation with Allan W Anderson, it seems to be a very good starting point.

[@victorbaladi6056]

@@pratik6342 talk 1? Where is?

[@HarshSingh-cx1yn]

i have done it

[@freedomorder9707]

Meditation is a state of non-movement movement 1:01:51

[@freedomorder9707]

1:06:17 🌞

[@ramongomez8849]

🙏🏻

[@BenDotFerro]

Hey, Can Anyone Recommend Something thats like these conversations,but in 2015??? ... im wondering if there are NEW Studies,from new technology that We Have Today,if it has changed anything that Dr.Bohm and Krishnamurit are saying

[@ThePrimaryAxiom]

Seven bomar is good, there's also Francis liciel and his student Rupert spira

[@mastere682]

I don't see how what Khristnamurti has spoken of has anything to do with what is changing and within oneself already throughout the whole of mankind. You are evidence of this, understand his sayings first.

[@Feliandyx16]

Please subtitles in spanish

[@KFoundation]

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[@ornellamiliciani7074]

Penso che Krisnamurti, forse, con questi due matematici perda un po di sé stesso, loro per quanto cercano di indagare non comprendono.......

[@rintheunknown881]

Lei comprende?

[@SudhirDudeja]

Repetition has order as well isn’t ?

[@TomersitoMusic]

yes. it seems to me that it is a secondary very mechanical level of order.

[@ishtiaqgardezi8214]

They discuss only in the absence of worry for bread ,clothes, shelter ,education ^health marraiges future of kids.😀😀😀😀😀

[@hemantkhare5545]

This 3rd Guy is only wasting K’s and Bohm’s time.

[@grahaminglis4242]

In order to make sense of what Krishnamurti is saying there needs to be some other context to be evaluated against and Narayan’s comments serve the orthodoxy position adequately. So it’s not a wasted input in my opinion.

[@fabian8813]

its rare that im impressed however watching this really would make anyone say wow but have you looked at the site called trevs cosmic tactic just google for it

[@ketankshukla]

What are they planning to accomplish practically with this? Sounds like endless boring theoretical rhetoric.

[@Criggeda]

the ending of human suffering

[@rintheunknown881]

To encourage you to doubt what you consider yourself. Observe and finally understand. Things cannot be changed from the outside but from the inside. Thus, nobody can do anything for you. Do it yourself. So, explore yourself, literally question what’s going on in there.

[@krox477]

This is the problem we need accomplishment